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SALE HAS ENDED!

Instructions for redeeming/using HZchronos are here.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610748235805154/

HZchronos News: At precisely 12am April 28th the sale was ended as promised. 1583 HZchronos were sold raising a total of 5,065,600 HZ. Feel free to submit promotions for review at the link above. First come, first served, and 30 days gets the most bonuses: Including logo placement in the top banner for the Crypto Currency Collectors Club!  
Update: 1 HZchronos now equals 1 day / 24 Hours! (The community agreed and time/value has been increased 24 times!)

ASSET NAME: HZCHRONOS
ASSET ID: 14434264033002297623
ASSET ISSUER: NHZ-MBV2-AUUP-J8FN-78LUC
Total colored coins issued: 17520
3200 HZ per unit

Countdown Clock Till Sale Ends: Anything Unsold Will Be Sent To Burn Address / Destroyed
http://www.pending.me.uk/cd/blu_1430197200.png (http://www.pending.me.uk)

Here is the short version for those that just want the basics:

This is an asset for traders, investors, and those seeking to actually use HZchronos for crypto currency promotions and advertisements. No promotions will be scheduled or start for the first initial two weeks after the launch - starting now -- HZchronos is purchased with Horizon HZ, and you can purchase Horizon on both Poloniex and Bittrex. To purchase HZchronos you must use the Horizon decentralized exchange, and the HZ purchased from either Poloniex or Bittrex. The official website has the download links for the wallets and also contains eight tutorial videos explaining how to use all the key elements of Horizon, so feel free to watch those if you are new to decentralized exchanges, or Horizon in particular.

https://horizonplatform.io

Here is an intro video for HZCHRONOS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7yDgfi6nc

Website for HZchronos:

http://www.hzchronos.com/

Here is the long version for those that want all the details:

HZchronos is a service asset based on units of time (1 unit = 1 hour of promotions), they are purchased on the Horizon decentralized exchange. The purpose of HZchronos is to be a trade asset that is backed with real world use, as they can be traded in for advertising time and promotions in the Cryptocurrency Collectors Club on Facebook, with additional incentives depending on how much time is reserved. They must be used in 24 hour blocks, or 24 chronos at a time minimum, and scheduling is done on a first come first serve basis. Nothing offensive or illegal is allowed, no scams, and it must have some connection to crypto currency. Advertisements & Promotions will be pinned to the top of the club forum for as long as scheduled. There are no refunds, and buyer agrees to to accept the risk for any unlikely reasons that this asset could fail in the future.

Why should you be interested in HZchronos? First of all, for specualtive reasons this asset is designed for trading. Extremely rare with only 17500 units total. All of them will be put up for trade and none held in reserve. If they sell out then traders can determine the price as they see fit. As units are turned in for promotions, they are removed from the market into a “burn” account, and the supply will effectively be reduced over time as they are used. The Cryptocurrency Collectors Club is one of the best groups for cryptos out there, with many active developers and traders, so this is a very valuable group to connect to.

Update: While I prefer to make this as long term as possible, I also want to balance it out with those that want quick profits. I have talked to the community and the consensus seems to be that any unsold colored coins after two weeks will be sent to the burn address. This way the traders control the supply entirely, regardless if 10% sells, 50%, or 100% - the caveat to this would be if for example 50% of the tokens sell, that is less funding and I would lower the long term commitment to the project exactly proportionally, but I will leave way more than enough time for these to be used.

100% of the tokens sell, 2.5 years redeemable
50% of them sell, 1.25 years redeemable ... and so on, so this way the length of the commitment to the project is determined by the demand, as well as the starting marketcap. Thanks!

On April 27th, Midnight Central Standard Time, I will remove any unsold tokens and send to the "burn" address, and then promotions and scheduling will start, and the overall time frame for the project will be determined based on the results of the sale.

Update: sale has begun and some buys are starting up. There will be a two week period before promotions and scheduling starts and then promotions will begin. This is 100% legit here. I will keep this thread updated at that time and also link the promotions in this thread as examples of service being delivered, and depending on the time scheduled, promotions will be on Google Plus and Twitter, as well as Facebook. (1.2 million views on my Google Plus Crypto account)

Here are the tutorial videos for Horizon:

https://horizonplatform.io/category/horizon-tutorials/

Another Great Invention Ever

Great Job Man :)

This is my

NHZ-7ANN-LUFR-CCZU-6K44J


Idk how to use it

Check the tutorial videos in the post right above you and make sure you know how to use the exchange first. Also, very important, *always* send small test transactions when you are learning a new system. If you know how to use NXT, this works the same, although the wallet is unique so there are some small differences.

This video explains how to set up a new Horizon Account:

https://horizonplatform.io/how-to-setup-a-new-horizon-account/

I've 45 so far lol didn't quite have enough for 48 But I'll be sure to top it off before it's over  8)

cheers man

Thanks! I am a miner and a trader myself, so I will do everything possible to make this profitable for traders. "Decreasing Supply" Additionally, everything sponsored using HZchronos would tag back to HZchronos.  :)

I'm more interested in using them for the advertising appeal, could be worth a lot more than just trading ;)

Definitely ;)

Update: While I prefer to make this as long term as possible, I also want to balance it out with those that want quick profits. I have talked to the community and the consensus seems to be that any unsold colored coins after two weeks will be sent to the burn address. This way the traders control the supply entirely, regardless if 10% sells, 50%, or 100% - the caveat to this would be if for example 50% of the tokens sell, that is less funding and I would lower the long term commitment to the project exactly proportionally, but I will leave way more than enough time for these to be used.

100% of the tokens sell, 2.5 years redeemable
50% of them sell, 1.25 years redeemable ... and so on, so this way the length of the commitment to the project is determined by the demand, as well as the starting marketcap. Thanks!

On April 27th, Midnight Central Standard Time, I will remove any unsold tokens and send to the "burn" address, and then promotions and scheduling will start, and the overall time frame for the project will be determined based on the results of the sale.

So what is the USD market cap of the ICO?

If everything sells out less than 12k currently. 50%, 6k, and so on... Turbulent times with Bitcoin of course.

Looking forward to see how this goes. Are there any other exchanges where Horizon assets are traded or only on the Horizon decentralised exchange?

Right now HZ is a bit too small for that, but potentially Horizon assets could be traded on regular exchanges in the future. Currently Poloniex or Bittrex are the options for buying HZ directly, although HZxchange is also starting up now with initial testing, and that allows Bitcoin and other crypto trading directly from the Horizon Decentralized Exchange. (Very early stages of that now, but over time that might make it easier to get Horizon by simply using Bitcoin on the HZxchange)

Bought 168: a week's worth. :)

Why does this have so few replies so far? This seems really cool!

I don't know I think it's an awesome idea, I've been sharing it around trying to get other communities to look at it... cryptos helping cryptos.

the only issue 1 person brought up is they didn't like having to buy/support another coin to advertise their own coin... and to them I just said good cryptos should help other good cryptos lol it's not like 99% of other cryptos are even competition against HZ. I'm sure theres a few coins out there that could be considered direct competition for HZ's platform... but others like GAIA or SQL etc etc are completely different coins/concepts/goals so shouldn't have a problem with it.

Horizon already has HZxchange which allows the trading of different cryptos on Horizon. As a decentralized exchange, Horizon is about how it can be used, not just the price and speculation of HZ alone. For example. I personally own and trade a variety of cryptos and have no problems with the competition whatsoever. On HZxchange, NXT, LTC, BTC, DASH and BTS can be traded. Perhaps many more cryptos will be added in the future? That only makes those cryptos more valuable, not less, and Horizon has thousands of nodes and is valuable in and of itself.

How much HZchronos sells will determine the supply and marketcap, but one thing is certain, the marketcap will be extremely low and the supply *extremely* rare. Once promotions begin the only way to buy HZchronos will be from other traders. April 27th midnight CST is the end of the sale, and many cryptos will come and go over time, while Horizon will remain and HZchronos will remain. No matter how little sells I will honor HZchronos at least until the distribution period of Horizon is complete, around the end of the year or longer, and up to a maximum of 2.5 years. Few options in cryptos have anything close to a stable value with the potential to increase for that time frame.

I had a vote with the community in advance and asked if they wanted this thread to be moderated or unmoderated, moderated won by a landslide. Although I actually wanted it unmoderated as I thought that might make it more active, and of course there is the notion that all moderated threads are scams. Still, this is not a scam, and I have no intention of moderating this thread whatsoever.

Great job... I love seeing people do more with colored coins and assets.

Is there any other way for the people who want to advertise to buy this advertising time? Or is it exclusively done via this asset?

(If the first answer is yes and therefore, the second is no, then the 'standard' price of the advertising hour would somehow set an upper limit to the asset price, wouldn't it?)

HZchronos will be the only way, no Bitcoin, dollars, nothing else. I have total control over the key group as I created it (the owner), and there is no other way to buy advertising time using it. In theory way down the road there could be, but there will not be while this is redeemable. As mentioned the time frame for the tokens being redeemable will be at least until the end of the year, or end of the distribution period for Horizon, and up to a maximum of 2.5 years if all tokens sell out before April 27th midnight. Clearly I cannot accept any other payments other than HZchronos or that undermines the entire design, so I will not. I also need to have an end date so I don't lock myself into some agreement perpetually.

There is an upper limit of course to the value, but that will be determined purely by market demand and what prices traders set. Potentially ads and promotions could bring in thousands while just costing a very small amount. One could also monopolize the group if they saw fit and make their crypto dominant for long periods of time. I am actually quite curious to see how creative or clever people are with it, and the true value will become clear when those with some clever ideas use it to reach this specific group of highly active crypto traders and enthusiasts. Feel free to join the group with the link at the bottom and look at who is in it, many names will be very recognizable.

I see, thanks.


Do you have any predictions and/or experiences about how great this demand is and how much people would pay for advertisements? In other words: Is the asset price realistic and worth it?

I have had experiences with ICOs contacting me and offering me a percentage of their ICO (I will not say which ones, but more than one), but they wanted it done in an unethical way where I was supposed to pretend natural interest in their ICO and trick people, I said no. They did offer way more than the cost of the asset however, many times over, but that is a slightly different situation. Still, it clearly indicates demand for promotions in some regard. The exposure and channels were the exact same. The price is as low as I would be willing to schedule and deal with it, any less and it simply would not be worth my time so I think the price is more than fair, but of course only for people with a solid plan. People can always advertise and promote elsewhere but they will not have the same audience. So in the case where someone had a solid plan and wanted the attention then I think the asset price is realistic and definitely worth it.

That's why I'm glad I snapped up a week's worth. ;D

I'm up to 3 days now  8)

Thank you for your answers! Nobody can see the future, but it seems to me, this is one of the assets with a solid and thought-out plan. Unfortunately, there are not so many assets with such a plan, there is a lot of dreaming around, confusion and scam (only good for the asset issuer), that's why I asked...

Thanks for the questions, they were good ones. Being on the team for the first NXT clone I know exactly how bad most assets are. There are no rules and regulations, so you really have to trust whomever is issuing it. For the most part they just issue ponzis and scams with no long term plans, beyond cashing out early and making another one. This is the polar opposite here. I wanted to create something different and real, so hopefully it can be successful and set an example for real service assets in the future. I will likely also post the promotions people use in this thread, or at least links to them, so investors can see the progress of it being used in action into the future.

Very cool, that is actually a lot of exposure since we are so active with crypto trading and speculation... I am excited to see how people will use it when the sale ends, less than 7 days left now!

(Here is the HZCHRONOS promotion from the Cryptocurrency Collectors Club)

http://s7.postimg.org/52ptnewzf/THEBOAT.png

Don’t miss the boat on my new trusted service asset HZCHONOS, as the sale ends in just a few days! Unlike many options in cryptos this has real value backing it. This is designed to be used right now during the early speculative phase of cryptos. What is it for? This is for promotion and advertising, in essence, hiring me personally to help in a way. This is targeted mostly at crypto currency insiders, people that have their own coins, ICOs, mining companies, anyone that wants to reach the best audience in the world for Alts, right here! This is also for traders that want to buy it early and sell it to them later for a profit.

What exactly is it? This is a service asset purchased on the Horizon Platform that buys promotion time and exposure in the Crypto Currency Collectors Club, Google Plus, and Twitter. This asset is also extremely rare with only 17520 units total, each unit representing one hour of time. Anything unsold in a few days will be removed from active supply, for good! Anything spent for promotions over time, also removed for good! This is designed to get more rare, for certain, while still being 100% legit, and with real redeemable value for crypto currency promotions and advertisements.

There are three basic levels for the promotions. A minimum of one day can be reserved, using 24 HZchronos, and that essentially is a pinned post in this group. Great for brand recognition and community feedback. The second level is reserving a week, or 168 HZchronos, that also gets a pinned post, but also promoted on Google Plus to 5 thousand more people, and a couple thousand more crypto people on twitter. The third level is reserving a month, 720 chronos, and that gives all of the above, and banner space in the Crypto Currency Collectors Club. A nice logo right up top like Horizon! So there is real value for those seeking promotions, and by design of how rare it is, there is real value for traders!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022989.0
Bitcointalk Announcement Thread

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610748235805154/
HZchronos Facebook Page

http://www.hzchronos.com
HZchronos Website

https://horizonplatform.io
Official Horizon Website - Get Wallets Here!

http://s1.postimg.org/ayhgad3u7/Untitled.png
All extra tokens unsold will be burned, and the sale will end on time, last 48 hours!

HZCHRONOS News:

(1) We are near the end of the sale now, less than 2 days remain!
(2) A total of 3,922,414 Horizon has been raised.
(3) I have been informed there is a wallet issue where you need to restrart the HZ wallet to add a new asset. This is a minor known issue by the coders and is being resolved, more GUI advancements and improvements are on the way, and this will be fixed later, just restart the wallet if need be to add HZchronos.
(4) I am still waiting on the Logo to be added to the Website for an official asset, but regardless, I guess it will be added after the sale is over and increase the value for everyone else then. I really just have to wait for the website guy to get it done, it is fully approved and submitted. Bad for me, as there would be far more exposure for HZchronos on the website as a Trusted Assets DURING the sale, good for everyone else buying HZchronos now, as it will likely be more rare once the extras are burned.

http://s3.postimg.org/u67dwuler/HZNOW.png

I'm excited I just bought some, should definitely pay off!

Yes, I think so. I am very active and will be sharing the promotions as they happen to show the value in action, and they will be [Sponsored by HZchronos] each time. Sale ends at midnight tonight! CST USA

Quick update, down to the the last couple hours of the sale for HZchronos, ends Midnight tonight central standard time USA, just listed as TRUSTED asset on the Horizonplatform.io website! Check it out if you want, thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022989.0
Bitcointalk Announcement Thread

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610748235805154/
HZchronos Facebook Page

http://www.hzchronos.com
HZchronos Website

https://horizonplatform.io
Official Horizon Website - Get Wallets Here!

http://s8.postimg.org/3rfnxk7ed/TRUSTED.png

Instructions for redeeming/using HZchronos are here.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610748235805154/

HZchronos News: At precisely 12am April 28th the sale was ended as promised. 1583 HZchronos were sold raising a total of 5,065,600 HZ, or roughly around 5 BTC. Feel free to submit promotions for review at the link above. First come, first served, and 30 days gets the most bonuses: Including logo placement in the top banner for the Crypto Currency Collectors Club!


Update: all extra tokens are burned and sent to the Genesis Block and out of supply forever. Screens are included at the Facebook group and the public blockchain shows all the transactions. No security risk now for the extra tokens, out of supply for good!

How to mining  ??? ::)

No mining for this one as it is a digital asset, you can only buy and sell it. Although I love mining and I am a miner myself.

Since I have been annoyed at devs with no vision or confidence in their projects, for years now, I put up a huge safety net at the initial buy in price. That means people have a choice to cash out and break even, not lose a cent, or stay in and see what happens! The greed and lack of vision in cryptos, and overall lack of creativity, I find disturbing, HZchronos is different.

I like your attitude  :)

It would be a good progress if this crypto-market would not be divided in evil scammers on the one side and naive, over-idealistic dreamers on the other side, but would find some people with good realistic business sense. So taking greed into account in the sense of an honest win-win strategy. Because with idealism alone there will never be success.

REPOST from the Crypto Currency Collectors Club:

Quick major update on HZchronos: I have talked with the HZchronos community and they have agreed that increasing the redeemable promotion time 24X is a very good idea. So what was previously worth 1 hour will be worth 24 hours soon (promotion time in the CCC with a pinned post, or with a logo up top) The deal is that the community has to sell me back 300 tokens at the same price they paid, no donations, just a sell back of some tokens so I could also own some and have more incentive to add to the value. So far 200 have been sold back, so this goal is likely to be reached. Prices are still pretty much based on 24 units per day, rather than one unit per day, and I believe after people start actually using it the value will become clear and the price should increase. Giving early investors a chance at very good profits and great utility when used.

Increasing the redeemable value 24x will not necessarily reflect in price or trade value, but potentially it could over the long run after it is used and the value becomes clear in practice and genuine demand. (Also possible I have more plans and other ways to increase the value down the road) The initial sale price was 3200 HZ per unit, assuming long term this change is reflected in the price, then the long term value potentially could reach 76800 HZ per unit, although traders and the market will determine that, but I do I believe price increases are more likely after people start using HZchronos and others start wanting to use it themselves. I have also removed any future expiration dates to it, but with the caveat that if I ever leave cryptos down the road someone else would take over the CCC and HZchronos in tandem. I have no plans for quitting cryptos, but this way there are no expiration dates, and therefore the greatest potential to increase in value and utility over time.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1610748235805154/

http://s7.postimg.org/o8szpozzv/HZchronos.png

Update:Blocknet adding Ethereum, hence, increased technology for Horizon in the long run! Additionally, BTI, Blockchain Technologies, reserved a 30 day promotion with HZchronos! I suggest buying BTI on C-CEX now as they will be getting some serious visibility and brand recognition! Great team too. :)

"atcsecure [8:25 AM]
@infinitechaos: yes someone at ethereum did review it for its utility and viability

battbot [8:46 AM]
@atcsecure, what excites you most about Ethereum becoming Blocknet enabled?

atcsecure [8:49 AM]
@battbot, what excites me the most is that it is akin to android app store, extending dapps across an entire range of blockchains, creating an industry standard for dapps

battbot [8:57 AM]
@atcsecure, So, what do you expect is the future for Blocknet in light of it's new relationship with Ethereum?  Do we have a change in direction?  Or will the current "road-map" more or less remain the same?

atcsecure [8:58 AM]
@battbot: there is a change in direction in that we are using the ethereum VM engine for smart contracts, which then enables any developer to leverage that within the blocknet system

infinitechaos [9:01 AM]
@atcsecure: Can you talk about what Ethereum has to gain from working with the Blocknet?

atcsecure [9:02 AM]
yes ethereum gains the ability to leverage other chains via xbridge.  we want to create the industry standard for smart contract stacks"

http://s29.postimg.org/dzsh4klmf/BTINOW.png

BTI (trading on C-CEX) will be running a 30 day promo with HZchronos. I already added their logo to the main club for 30 days, and they will get a pinned post and lots of exposure to key people in cryptos! Nice going BTI! Might be worth picking up some BTI on C-CEX early. ;)

http://s23.postimg.org/v98mcyk1n/HZX.png

HZchronos shot up over 600%! Very nice! HZchronos has NEVER fallen below the initial price, and has only increased in price, value, and utility. Each 30 day promotion is also permanently added to http://www.cryptocollectorsclub.com - and with over 4500 members now in the CCC, we just keep growing and getting stronger! Every time HZchronos is used for promotions, they are burned and removed. I have been into cryptos and Bitcoin for years and will keep this going along with Horizon as long as possible, as I am a believer and not just someone trying to make a quick buck. This is a real long term project, and the numbers speak for themselves. :)

Holy jeepers, I should have bought more. Thanks an awful lot, CryptoClub!

A new 30 day promo for Bitcoin FOREX and CFD trading went live today with HZchronos, and another 30 HZchronos have been sent to the Genesis Account. (Burned) -- We are also looking into having the burned amount subtracted in the explorer and HZxchange (although everything is trackable with the blockchain this would make it easier for people to verify what is happening), it is technically possible, so I just need the NXT/HZ coder guys to take care of it for us. This hopefully will happen in the future.

Now only 1517 HZchronos Remain.

Update, 83 more HZchronos sent to the genesis account and burned, 1434 remain. The rest of August is booked, along with all of September and October. :)

http://s29.postimg.org/6pmk4yi47/logo_new_4_1_fw.png

Nexus Niro has begun their campaign using HZchronos, and it will run through the end of the month.

I also bought some of this myself as the dev is brilliant, and it doesn't hurt that his dad helped form SpaceX with the super famous Elon Musk of Paypal and Tesla fame. (Although Colin Cantrell is a pro coder and I think his work will also stand on its own)

Hi, James. What's the waiting time between redemption and the ad displays?

with the nice cheap price of HZ I would think people would have moved their HZchronos sells way higher,

Update: Quite some time ago I left the Horizon project as I was unable to work with the current project manager at the time for a variety of reasons, we were just totally ideologically incompatible, to say the least.

Regardless, I would not leave anyone stranded for anything I was involved directly in, so I set up buys on the order books for people to dump or sell into if they like. (Basically, I am breaking even overall with this project, and not even close considering I spent over a year dealing with advertisements and personal interactions for it) It was my first asset, and while it did what was promised and had some nice gains for some, there were too many problems and way too much time spent dealing with scammers that would try to use it to advertise with. The HZxchange was also not successful, so this essentially being only on that and the HZwallet made for a poor trading environment.

The long-term solution will be a swap to a new project I will build on Expanse that is totally unrelated. I have come up with the idea, but I must keep it secret so nobody else uses it. It is however, better than this one. This is still a long long ways off, maybe a year or so as I am very busy at this time, but as a matter of principle, I want anyone that holds any Chronos to be happy in the end. So the choices are to sell into the orders I left and move on, (Inside the HZ wallet) and I put them way higher than the current orders when I did it, or wait until sometime in the future the new project is announced. Once announced I will not put any deadlines on the swap.

It will be announced here and in the HZchronos Facebook page, and in the Expanse Newsletter. :)