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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Littleshop on August 21, 2012, 10:59:16 PM



Title: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Littleshop on August 21, 2012, 10:59:16 PM
I guess I am screwed. 


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: eb3full on August 21, 2012, 11:24:26 PM
Depends, how good of counterfeits are they?


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Littleshop on August 21, 2012, 11:30:50 PM
Depends, how good of counterfeits are they?

Poor.  I will post pictures later, it might take me few days.  I will have to get a good camera out because an iPhone is not going to take pictures that close.  The Tag Heuer has the band wrong and the face wrong.  Also the date indicator is tilted where on the real thing it is even. 



Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: smracer on August 21, 2012, 11:56:10 PM
Unscramble this ----->   ecwosr


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 21, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
They have some decent looking fakes on Silkroad sometimes....


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Awalt541 on August 22, 2012, 04:15:38 PM
They have some decent looking fakes on Silkroad sometimes....
Tell me about it, got 3 pairs of "Ray Bans" for like 20$ a pair. Now I look totally frat-tastic.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Projects on August 22, 2012, 07:31:46 PM
Sorry for your loss, I also was interested in the watches/jewlery but something told me not to purchase and I hate to be right when someone else loses money.
Glad my intuition was right and thanks for the information it is noted.v


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: koin on August 22, 2012, 07:50:20 PM
these?

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my grandma gave me this today. she told me i could sell it or do whatever i want with it. i could sell some pieces separate but would rather sell it all together. buy it all for $500.

https://i.imgur.com/EGkgg.jpg
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98762.msg1080701#msg1080701


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 22, 2012, 07:57:22 PM
They have some decent looking fakes on Silkroad sometimes....
Tell me about it, got 3 pairs of "Ray Bans" for like 20$ a pair. Now I look totally frat-tastic.



Well the watches I was looking at where in the $200 range for something similar to what the OP bought.... Sun glasses are pretty cheap ya....


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: hashman on August 22, 2012, 08:17:12 PM
I guess I am screwed. 

You will look much cooler.  Real brand luxury items just make you look like a total idiot. 


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 22, 2012, 10:07:59 PM
I guess I am screwed. 

You will look much cooler.  Real brand luxury items just make you look like a total idiot. 


Yup.... Dude's that gotta have the biggest penis in the room for no reason......


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Awalt541 on August 22, 2012, 10:51:43 PM
I dont think having nice things is shameful, if you have a real rolex wear the damn thing. We arent talking about ghetto chains or huge face watches with more sparkles than a Kay jewelers.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: LoupGaroux on August 22, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
Gee... some asshole advertises that his grandmother "hoarded" valuables and then gave them to him and he is selling them for whatever the market will bear, and you are somehow surprised that they are fakes?

This was called out in his earlier thread, he is a scammy little liar, and anybody sending any amount of funds to an asshole who demands that you send first so that he can "be protected" is a scammer. 100% of the time, no exceptions. Stop being stupid and falling for this free lunch bullshit. These watches were obvious garbage fakes from the predicable slightly out of focus scammer photos of them.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: SaltySpitoon on August 22, 2012, 11:01:38 PM
You might be able to get a little bit of $ back for them, maybe even a good amount back if they are fairly good quality/hard to tell the difference. Just sell them as fake watches etc, and people will buy them. Do make sure you list them as fakes though lol.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: HeavyMetal on August 22, 2012, 11:10:08 PM
He did say that he had no idea what the stuff was worth, he also offered you a refund if you returned them. Take the refund or stop complaining.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: AndrewBUD on August 22, 2012, 11:21:37 PM
He didn't trust that he would get his refund :)


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: HeavyMetal on August 23, 2012, 12:56:17 AM
He didn't trust that he would get his refund :)

That is all fine and well, but think of it from the seller's point of view. You state you don't know what the item is worth, the buyer says they are not worth anything and wants money back but will not return the items.

He already trusted him with both the bitcoins and the watches prior to them being shipped, so why not trust him with both again to get a refund? If he returns the watches and gets no refund then he has a valid complaint.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Littleshop on August 23, 2012, 02:08:19 AM
He did say that he had no idea what the stuff was worth, he also offered you a refund if you returned them. Take the refund or stop complaining.

I would gladly take the refund.  Read this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102224.0



Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: John (John K.) on August 23, 2012, 02:28:18 AM
i dont feel escrow is necessary.

i really have no idea what this stuff is worth.

^^^ This makes it absolutely necessary imo
Matthew nailed this one fairly perfectly.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: HeavyMetal on August 23, 2012, 04:07:05 AM
He did say that he had no idea what the stuff was worth, he also offered you a refund if you returned them. Take the refund or stop complaining.

I would gladly take the refund.  Read this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102224.0



Ya, I saw the thread you hijacked and pretty much drove as far off topic as one could.

Looks like you repeatedly refused refunds until the offer was withdrawn.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: mem on August 23, 2012, 07:30:06 AM
these?

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my grandma gave me this today. she told me i could sell it or do whatever i want with it. i could sell some pieces separate but would rather sell it all together. buy it all for $500.

https://i.imgur.com/EGkgg.jpg
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98762.msg1080701#msg1080701

bitcoiners fall for another classic scam/ grift.
So far we have had the race horse scam, jewelry (need to sell) scam and to many ponzi's to boot.

Dont feel bad, you just paid for a valuable life lesson.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: John (John K.) on August 23, 2012, 10:07:36 AM
these?

Quote
my grandma gave me this today. she told me i could sell it or do whatever i want with it. i could sell some pieces separate but would rather sell it all together. buy it all for $500.

https://i.imgur.com/EGkgg.jpg
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98762.msg1080701#msg1080701

bitcoiners fall for another classic scam/ grift.
So far we have had the race horse scam, jewelry (need to sell) scam and to many ponzi's to boot.

Dont feel bad, you just paid for a valuable life lesson.
When did a race horse scam happened?  :o


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: LoupGaroux on August 24, 2012, 01:11:23 PM
The race horse actually wasn't a scam, the folks that offered the investment made good on every single share sold at the IPO price.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: pekv2 on August 24, 2012, 02:51:21 PM
Second: I was gonna save some BTC's and buy a 5850 from this guy.

First: I actually asked if he would send off a 5850, and let it mine itself off. He wanted BTC in hand before shipping.

Looks like everything is being put in place against this person.

Can any reputable members vouch for this btc buy person?


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: juggalodarkclow on August 27, 2012, 11:26:44 PM
I purchased a mobo and some riser cables from BTC GUY a few months back and had no issues at all.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: TECSHARE on August 28, 2012, 09:05:45 PM
I can confirm that I attempted to purchase a small amount of this portfolio if he was willing to ship first. He refused. Not that this is proof of anything, but it does indicate he may have had his suspicions that some of the jewelry is fake, without disclosing it.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: BitcoinINV on August 28, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
I bought GPU's from him with no problem


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Littleshop on September 06, 2012, 10:49:03 PM
I bought GPU's from him with no problem
Apparently I was just the first of his victims. 


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Tittiez on September 07, 2012, 07:24:21 PM
Got this PM today:


Hello

Never been on this site before, but just had three people showup to my door that claim that they were from this site and claim he took him for 4k for a fail transaction, that came from MD, wonderiing if I was BTCGUY and this pr#ck is using my name and address on this forum I need any info from anyone, that had a transaction with this guy, to track him down. Looking for someone that had a successful transaction with this guy as with a tracking number so I can see what postoffice the package actually came from, or city, as he using my address in his profile, but is not where it was shipped from as I am the real Maurice Rivera and have no knowledge about this site except for what the member that showup to my door explained. 

I repeat I am not BTCGUY, or any other alias he may have when under. But am the real Maurice Rivera and this a##hoe using my name and address, I reporting this guy to the police, but they need more info, So anyone with tracking info if you ever receive a package from him would be a good start, or any email address or phone number he may have used, or other name he may have when under.

My email address is retropcdos@gmail.com PM me and I give you phone # 773-354-3925



I am in no way connected to this guy and is now consider identify fraud as I am filing a report.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: thebaron on September 09, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
I'm very confused as to why people in this thread think paying for goods before you receive them is an odd concept.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: LoupGaroux on September 09, 2012, 09:20:41 PM
Nothing to be confused about... it is the simple protection that online purchases demand. If I am going to send off my funds to an anonymous person who claims to have the goods I wish to purchase, I do not have a retail point of sale that I can go back to and address any misrepresentation, service needs, or inoperable item. If I buy something at a local store and there is a problem I can get it fixed at that store. Nameless, faceless pretend people on the internet don't have that feature. So escrow makes good sense.

Especially when the seller is a shady piece of trash like BTC Guy with loads of controversy, bullshit stories, bad out of focus photos of the goods, and an obvious pack of lies about how he came into possession of those goods. It's not about paying for the goods before you receive them, it is about have recourse against unethical, criminal sellers who deliver goods radically different from what they offered for sale. Using an escrow is just a way to protect both the seller and the buyer in the transaction.

It is a huge red flag when a seller refuses to escrow a sale, and any thinking person would be well advised to strike that potential deal, odds are you will be disappointed.


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Qbert on March 17, 2013, 01:22:54 AM
BTCGuy may be back

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154010.msg1632449


Title: Re: BTC GUY sold me counterfeit watches.
Post by: Aahzman on March 17, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
I remember seeing a shop in Kusadasi, Turkey, had a sign out front "Genuine Fake Watches". Still makes me chuckle to this day.  I think I still have a pic of it on my iPhone.