Title: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 12:35:17 PM which is best pool ?
which paying many bitcoin in earning ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 01:01:15 PM All things being equal you will earn the same amount of coin no matter which pool you choose. Things are not equal though. Some pools have fees. Some are not ideally suited to the miner - example they are on the other side of the planet. Some are poorly written. Some are poorly connected.
I suggest you look through this forum and read the pool threads. Figure out what works best for you and make your decision. Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 01:06:52 PM I just tett me whichbl paying many bitcoin in moning ?
I want earning s3 in day 0.004. I was antpool and one day i got 0.002 thos nunber is very low Title: Re: best pool Post by: Hakkane on April 22, 2015, 01:52:38 PM As people have indicated in other threads:
- You need to run your S3 the 24 hours of the day. If you run it 16 hours --> 0.00026 - You need to run your S3 at least 2 full days to have stable payments. Pools pay depending on how did you participated in the previous xx hours (xx depends on the pool). Example: a pool pays your participation in the last 20 hours. So if you have been mining with them only 5 hours you will recieve only a 25% of what you expect. Yo have to be mining FULL 20 hours and then you will start to see your correct payments. I think you still don't understand what represents the luck of a pool, so I will try to make it very simple with an example: *\__/ The example \__/* Imagine you are in a casino, playing with a 20-sided dice. You will roll the dice each 10 minutes: http://www.gmdice.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/2/d20-giant-brushed-steel.jpg Antpool (a big pool) says --> "If you obtain a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, I will pay you $10" Ghash (a small pool) says ---> "If you obtain a 6, I will pay you $50" Note: $10 and $50 are just examples Which is better??? Both are the same! They pay you the same amount corresponding to the probability you have to win with them. With Antpool, you have small but frequent payments. With Ghash you you have unfrequent, but big payments. But if you play with any of them during a week you will see the same payment That is the important thing: You have to stay with your pool at least a FULL WEEK, mining 24 hours/day to see how much is really paying you. Stand a week with Antpool, and you will see on average your desired 0.0004btc/day More clear now? Title: Re: best pool Post by: kano on April 22, 2015, 02:14:31 PM You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment
(assuming the pool is paying you what they say they will) Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 03:47:59 PM As people have indicated in other threads: - You need to run your S3 the 24 hours of the day. If you run it 16 hours --> 0.00026 - You need to run your S3 at least 2 full days to have stable payments. Pools pay depending on how did you participated in the previous xx hours (xx depends on the pool). Example: a pool pays your participation in the last 20 hours. So if you have been mining with them only 5 hours you will recieve only a 25% of what you expect. Yo have to be mining FULL 20 hours and then you will start to see your correct payments. I think you still don't understand what represents the luck of a pool, so I will try to make it very simple with an example: *\__/ The example \__/* Imagine you are in a casino, playing with a 20-sided dice. You will roll the dice each 10 minutes: http://www.gmdice.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/2/d20-giant-brushed-steel.jpg[/img] Antpool (a big pool) says --> "If you obtain a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, I will pay you $10" Ghash (a small pool) says ---> "If you obtain a 6, I will pay you $50" Note: $10 and $50 are just examples Which is better??? Both are the same! They pay you the same amount corresponding to the probability you have to win with them. With Antpool, you have small but frequent payments. With Ghash you you have unfrequent, but big payments. But if you play with any of them during a week you will see the same payment That is the important thing: You have to stay with your pool at least a FULL WEEK, mining 24 hours/day to see how much is really paying you. Stand a week with Antpool, and you will see on average your desired 0.0004btc/day More clear now? Thanks man. You are good man. I advice . Only one question have. I that was on antpool 1 week full 24h after will be stable paying and i every 24h will i get 0.004 ?? Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 04:24:50 PM Why should was one week? For lucky ?
If what ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 05:00:55 PM Why should was one week? For lucky ? The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize. You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours. For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.If what ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 05:09:19 PM Why should was one week? For lucky ? The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize. You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours. For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.If what ? Maybe that 2 minute turn off and after turn on ? If dont maybe ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 05:14:46 PM Why should was one week? For lucky ? The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize. You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours. For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.If what ? Maybe that 2 minute turn off and after turn on ? If dont maybe ? Point your gear to a pool and let it ride. Look at the stats. If something is wrong, like extremely high reject rates, then you have to evaluate if it's your gear, or the pool that has the problem. Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 05:22:56 PM Why should was one week? For lucky ? The suggestion of waiting for a week is to allow everything to normalize. You'll get a better idea of how a pool performs with your gear over a week's time than you will if you just throw hash at it for 24 hours. For example, using the PPLNS method, you have to wait for that "N" timeframe before you're getting your full value payouts.If what ? Maybe that 2 minute turn off and after turn on ? If dont maybe ? Point your gear to a pool and let it ride. Look at the stats. If something is wrong, like extremely high reject rates, then you have to evaluate if it's your gear, or the pool that has the problem. Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: windpath on April 22, 2015, 05:23:26 PM You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment If these are the only criteria, then I'd argue P2Pool is the winner hands down ;) Edit: @ToQcHista check out P2Pool.org, especially the "read this first" part.... Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 05:26:53 PM You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment If these are the only criteria, then I'd argue P2Pool is the winner hands down ;) Edit: @ToQcHista check out P2Pool.org, especially the "read this first" part.... I want attpool but interested me i that long time runing miner after coming soon about 1 week , i will get every day 0.004 ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 05:34:13 PM Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ? No. You can turn your miner off for 2 minutes. The only effect will be that you have 2 minutes of not mining. Will there be any effect on your payout? Sure... but it's pretty minimal since 2 minutes is a pretty small percentage of a day.Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 06:00:06 PM Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ? No. You can turn your miner off for 2 minutes. The only effect will be that you have 2 minutes of not mining. Will there be any effect on your payout? Sure... but it's pretty minimal since 2 minutes is a pretty small percentage of a day.Okey. Thanks man. So , i wait one week turn on miner that after i will get every day 0.004btc Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 06:13:53 PM Yout told me that was miner full one week and i that 2 minute stop miner for cold , is problem ? No. You can turn your miner off for 2 minutes. The only effect will be that you have 2 minutes of not mining. Will there be any effect on your payout? Sure... but it's pretty minimal since 2 minutes is a pretty small percentage of a day.Okey. Thanks man. So , i wait one week turn on miner that after i will get every day 0.004btc Even but 100% was that my s3 was raning. You need to understand how this whole thing works. When you look at mining calculators, they are providing you an expected value. They simply say, "Given the probability of finding X shares in Y time, you would expect to earn Z coins". The simplified version of the formula they all use is:What do i ? That i will get 0.004btc ? Code: 25 / (Network Diff * 2^32 / hash rate per second / 86400) = number of coins you earn in a day Code: 25 / (47610564513 * 2^32 / 440000000000 / 86400) = 0.00464776 BTC Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 06:40:18 PM I cant undertand .
(( So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 06:49:55 PM I cant undertand . It means that you aren't guaranteed to get that amount. Some days you'll get less. Some days you might get more. There are a lot of things that determine what you get in actuality vs what the mining calculators say you should expect.(( So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 06:52:58 PM I cant undertand . It means that you aren't guaranteed to get that amount. Some days you'll get less. Some days you might get more. There are a lot of things that determine what you get in actuality vs what the mining calculators say you should expect.(( So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ? Yes . i guess but if lucky was good. One week that passes , i will get about 0.0035-0.004. ?? Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 06:54:31 PM Please tell me else.
Why should was turn on moner one week ? What happens ? That passes 1 week ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 06:58:52 PM I cant undertand . It means that you aren't guaranteed to get that amount. Some days you'll get less. Some days you might get more. There are a lot of things that determine what you get in actuality vs what the mining calculators say you should expect.(( So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ? Yes . i guess but if lucky was good. One week that passes , i will get about 0.0035-0.004. ?? Please tell me else. Why should was turn on moner one week ? What happens ? That passes 1 week ? Turn on your S3 Point it to AntPool Let it run After 1 week look at your payouts. If the pool has had good luck, you will see that your payments should be close to expectations. Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 07:05:57 PM I cant undertand . It means that you aren't guaranteed to get that amount. Some days you'll get less. Some days you might get more. There are a lot of things that determine what you get in actuality vs what the mining calculators say you should expect.(( So i that turn on miner 1 week after dont will get me every day 0.004 ? Yes . i guess but if lucky was good. One week that passes , i will get about 0.0035-0.004. ?? Please tell me else. Why should was turn on moner one week ? What happens ? That passes 1 week ? Turn on your S3 Point it to AntPool Let it run After 1 week look at your payouts. If the pool has had good luck, you will see that your payments should be close to expectations. I gues . thanks. But . this one week what will happens that after get me every day about 0.004 ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 22, 2015, 07:10:37 PM I gues . thanks. Nothing magical happens. It's just that you'll get a more accurate representation of your average payouts if you wait a week to compare. Just like if you wait 2 weeks you'll get an even better picture - of course, if there's a difficulty change that happens, that will have an effect on your expected earnings.But . this one week what will happens that after get me every day about 0.004 ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 07:19:07 PM So , that passes 1 week after , easying earning and woles every day i will get 0.004 if will be good lucky ?
Title: Re: best pool Post by: BitMos on April 22, 2015, 07:21:29 PM what ever is outside nato jurisdiction.
Title: Re: best pool Post by: gupik65 on April 22, 2015, 07:34:01 PM which is best pool ? which paying many bitcoin in earning ? https://mining.bitcoin.cz/home/ Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 22, 2015, 07:50:16 PM Your see , coming soon i have 0.004btc on 24h.
In the front is 6 hourse )) http://www.picz.ge/img/s1/1504/23/3/30486be5c920.jpg Title: Re: best pool Post by: Hakkane on April 22, 2015, 09:10:17 PM Your see , coming soon i have 0.004btc on 24h. In the front is 6 hourse )) Good to see that :-) - Your S3 setup is ok - Antpool is working ok - You only need one extra thing: relax and wait :) Don't get obsessed. You will not make more BTC by doing a different thing. Wait for a week After 24 hours of connecting to the pool, the payments should be stable. You are now at that point Some days, the pool will have bad luck, and you will earn 0.0035 Some days, the pool will have good luck, and you will earn 0.0050 After a week, if you divide your total earnings by 7, on average you will see you earned 0.0040-0.0045 If you turn off the S3 8 hours per day because it makes noise and you need to sleep, it is ok, but you will make 0.0025-0.0030 If you turn it off some minutes each day, nothing will happen (but you don't need to do it!) Don't get obsessed: everything is working. Don't post more problems in the forum, because you don't have any problem right now! ;) Come next week and tell us that everything is ok During this week just read the forums and try to learn as much as you can. Read and learn Title: Re: best pool Post by: kano on April 22, 2015, 09:39:04 PM You have to look at the fees and the orphan history to determine your expected long term payment If these are the only criteria, then I'd argue P2Pool is the winner hands down ;) ... (assuming the pool is paying you what they say they will) The payment at p2pool is not distributed evenly among all miners.It depends on your configuration connection to the rest of p2pool vs everyone else. It's exactly the same as comparing a well connected BTC pool to a poorly connected BTC pool. If a pool is getting lots of orphans then they know there is something wrong and they need to do something about it. On p2pool it's generally ignored as: well the average dead share rate is X% so that's OK if you are getting something around that ... In reality it means that if you are well below the average you are being paid better for your hash rate than everyone else on the pool who is around the average or worse. ... also I'm pretty sure all the luck stats on p2pool ignore a significant % of the pool hash rate. Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 23, 2015, 04:10:45 AM Your see , coming soon i have 0.004btc on 24h. In the front is 6 hourse )) After a week, if you divide your total earnings by 7, on average you will see you earned 0.0040-0.0045 I guess. Thanks. But this quote i cant undertand Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 23, 2015, 10:32:24 AM probably i am already finissh 8) ;)
this 24 hours earning on image,which from hours begin counting ? http://www.picz.ge/img/s2/1504/23/3/3881bc4c0791.png Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 23, 2015, 12:06:44 PM probably i am already finissh 8) ;) You'd do better asking this question in the AntPool thread. I don't know if that shows what your expected 24 hour earnings are, or what you've earned in the previous 24 hours.this 24 hours earning on image,which from hours begin counting ? http://www.picz.ge/img/s2/1504/23/3/3881bc4c0791.png Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 23, 2015, 12:15:28 PM probably i am already finissh 8) ;) You'd do better asking this question in the AntPool thread. I don't know if that shows what your expected 24 hour earnings are, or what you've earned in the previous 24 hours.this 24 hours earning on image,which from hours begin counting ? http://www.picz.ge/img/s2/1504/23/3/3881bc4c0791.png show me that you earned "0.00402464 BTC 24 Hours Earnings" and i that counting time from morning 8:00 o'clock, second day 8:00 o'clock prior to is less than the amount 0.00315720 btc Title: Re: best pool Post by: jonnybravo0311 on April 23, 2015, 12:30:13 PM probably i am already finissh 8) ;) You'd do better asking this question in the AntPool thread. I don't know if that shows what your expected 24 hour earnings are, or what you've earned in the previous 24 hours.this 24 hours earning on image,which from hours begin counting ? http://www.picz.ge/img/s2/1504/23/3/3881bc4c0791.png show me that you earned "0.00402464 BTC 24 Hours Earnings" and i that counting time from morning 8:00 o'clock, second day 8:00 o'clock prior to is less than the amount 0.00315720 btc By the way, on p2pool in the past 24 hours, my S3 earned 0.00910886BTC. Why? Luck. P2Pool found more than the expected number of blocks. There are also plenty of times on p2pool where that S3 earned 0BTC in 24 hours. It's the way things work. If you look at my thread here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891298.0) you can see that my S3 mining on p2pool from 12/26/2014 - 4/17/2015 has earned 0.50613334BTC. Expected earnings (i.e. what a mining calculator tells you that you should have made) for that same time is 0.5553BTC. This means during that time I've earned about 91% of what a mining calculator told me I should expect to earn. Take a look at this post in particular in my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891298.msg10095504#msg10095504. That one clearly shows how 2 identical miners can perform very differently. Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 23, 2015, 12:37:38 PM probably i am already finissh 8) ;) You'd do better asking this question in the AntPool thread. I don't know if that shows what your expected 24 hour earnings are, or what you've earned in the previous 24 hours.this 24 hours earning on image,which from hours begin counting ? http://www.picz.ge/img/s2/1504/23/3/3881bc4c0791.png show me that you earned "0.00402464 BTC 24 Hours Earnings" and i that counting time from morning 8:00 o'clock, second day 8:00 o'clock prior to is less than the amount 0.00315720 btc By the way, on p2pool in the past 24 hours, my S3 earned 0.00910886BTC. Why? Luck. P2Pool found more than the expected number of blocks. There are also plenty of times on p2pool where that S3 earned 0BTC in 24 hours. It's the way things work. If you look at my thread here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891298.0) you can see that my S3 mining on p2pool from 12/26/2014 - 4/17/2015 has earned 0.50613334BTC. Expected earnings (i.e. what a mining calculator tells you that you should have made) for that same time is 0.5553BTC. This means during that time I've earned about 91% of what a mining calculator told me I should expect to earn. Take a look at this post in particular in my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891298.msg10095504#msg10095504. That one clearly shows how 2 identical miners can perform very differently. i can't undertand. this f2pool paying good bitcoin in 24H ? i will on move this f2pool ? Title: Re: best pool Post by: ToQcHista on April 23, 2015, 01:43:56 PM I moved on f2pool .
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