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Why Bitcoin’s male domination will be its downfall

http://fusion.net/story/124655/why-bitcoins-male-domination-will-be-its-downfall/

If you are a woman involved with Bitcoin, you are invariably going to get treated like an outsider. As Victoria Turk says, “it seems that the only Bitcoin community that particularly welcomes female participation is the NSFW subreddit r/GirlsGoneBitcoin”, which is basically a site where women get paid in cryptocurrency to pose nude.

Male domination didn't stop Linux, or the Internet, or every other technology, and it will not stop bitcoin.

That is total Bullshit.  >:(

I have attended several Bitcoin meetups, where females were treated as equels.. They were not dancing naked on tables. Several of my female friends are into Bitcoin and none of them, had to fill in some gender document to open a wallet at any service provider.

Bitcoin makes no distinction between race or gender... it's just a currency being used by millions of people.

If you look at ANY of my previous posts, where I refer to Satoshi... I include the following ... Him/her or it. For what we know, Satoshi might even be a women.  ;)

Felix can now go tell his wife, he obeyed her orders and wrote feminist FUD on Bitcoin.  ;D ;D

This is exactly what I was going to say. You could put many sports like football with that as well. I think most women will likely just be treated equally in the bitcoinsphere as gender is irrelevant but of course there are fewer women involved as there are with most new technology. More and more will get involved as time goes on as well.

And what does he suggest we do about this exactly? Force women to get involved? It's not men's fault that women aren't getting on board but there are more than you might think but this will change over time but all we can do is keep spreading the word to everyone regardless of gender.

And another story full of shit. Some people can better keep their mouth shut instead of talking nonsense. To me every one is equal, doesn't matter if that person is a male or female Bitcoiner.

Bitcoin will only fail if there is no demand for it in the future, or quantum computers that will find a way to crack it. But that's very far away, if it's ever going to happen.

Simple solution. We need to start referring to Satoshi as 'she', but first we'd need to fabricate "solid" evidence that she was a female.

Result: every single news, from tech/business press to color magazines will pick the story up. Feminists will absolutely love it and claim it was the greatest invention in modern history (invented by a woman!) and any Bitcoin critique will be taken as misogynist attack.

Yet-another-attempt-to-paint-STEM-fields-as-women-excluding, even though there is plenty of proof otherwise. Makes me wonder when they'll run out of things to complain about. Nobody keeps women from participating in Bitcoin, any imagined exclusion is in the mind of the author.

But, it has become fashionable lately to pull the victim card and write another "woe is women" piece on something involving technology. The door is open, anyone can walk through it.

LIAR  ;D !

I think why men dominate, because bitcoin is not widely known among women, maybe need to be cooperation with groups or institutions woman to introduce bitcoin.

Perhaps, these early startups are targeting certain products that can help them expand to others in the future and these early products typically bring in more males. Furthermore, most investment types tend to be men.

And you have counters.

http://fortune.com/2015/04/24/women-in-bitcoin/
http://www.americanbanker.com/bankthink/bloggers-belittle-womens-achievements-in-bitcoin-1074018-1.html

That's totally wrong, male domination is the power source behind everything. And women are the helping hand. Neither can live without each other cooperation. So it's wrong to say male domination is destroying BTC.

Radical feminists can GTFO to somewhere else. Bitcoin doesn't discriminate against anyone, and therefore there is no need for any special affirmative action quotas for females. And at least 10% of the Bitcoin users right now are females. That is not a small amount. For example, 0% of the American Presidents were female.  ;D

Why have the misandrists suddenly turned their attention to the Bitcoin community? I bet you we're going to see them try and swarm the forums with their bullshit soon enough, unfortunately for them I've been ready to pick a fight lately because of the UK elections.

Does that mean that the "Bitcoin CEO" has to stop asking to see IDs before letting people get involved in bitcoin?  Or is this another case when China is going to ban bitcoin because there are not enough women "allowed" in?

If you want more women in Bitcoin then invite them here!
Feminism is a joke that ends in tears when you have to carry a washing machine into the house or a car breaks down. That's all there is to it.

Indeed adoption is a stepping stone, it just happens to relate to the fact there are fewer female computer programmers than males and in general the tech level is still fairly high, once people including females are more comfortable with the technology users will follow.

I think people here on these forums overestimate the importance of technical superiority.  TiVo was way ahead of its time and it failed miserably due to poor marketing.  Social opinion matters.  If you think Bitcoin will/is succeed(ing) just because it's technically superior to fiat, I would challenge you on that.  The primary reason Bitcoin has lived and grown to this point is *not* because it's superior, but because it's born of an ideology that some people very strongly identify with.  Unless that ideology is expanded so that it resonates more with others (women included), it will always occupy only a small niche.

There are >1,000 alts by now.  Most of these suit the technical requirements of most BTC users.  None of them are even close to BTC because they all resonate with the same population.

At this point, it's still not even a male vs. female problem.  It's still a tech-nerd-&-libertarian vs. everyone else problem.

I don't even go across the corner to another gas station if gas is 1%-2% cheaper there.  Don't expect people to flock to BTC in large numbers because of its technical advantages.

Yet another Betamax-vs-VHS trope.

Yeah, we know that technical superiority isn't everything, but the very fact this "experiment" is still thriving to the dismay of large banking institutions and governments that would like to see it dead - I'd call that an achievement.

You'd also know that the gradual acceptance and saturation of a given invention takes longer than the short lifespan that Bitcoin has had. That is, if you were interested in comparing it in a fair manner outside your own personal bias.

I implore you, all of you, who dislike this "4th wave feminism/SJW" trend NOT to engage with them at all. AT ALL. Do not associate Bitcoin with that debate.

If you provide that debate with oxygen, it will rapidly become warped beyond recognition. If you say nothing, the press will have nothing to report. I say this as someone who shares the concerns of all in this thread. Trolls are one thing, but an organised group of "rules for radicals" types is a whole different ball game.

I doubt that btc wil be held back once it becomes more accessible to the likes of the candy crush facebook crowd.

That would be logical, but logic isn't the strong suite of the SJW.  EG, they despise Ayn Rand with the fury of a trillion quasars, despite her being a singularly successful self-empowered sex-positive Jewish female immigrant.

If we say Satoshi is female ('The Modern Ada Lovelace!  Joan Clarke 2.0!') they will respond with accusations of self-hatred or other ugliness.

Best strategy is to use their own raging energy against them.  IE, every time they complain about 'sexist Bitcoin' we respond by gleefully pointing out ways in which Bitcoin will undo all the rotten crap the SJW and Feminist Left have imposed on society, such as progressive taxation and prohibition. 

They will respond with alacrity, and in the process say/print/publish the word 'Bitcoin' over and over.  Remember, there is no such thing as bad publicity.   8)

Your last sentence seems a bit ironic.  Are you sure the personal bias is mine?  How did you extract any personal bias on my end when I made an outside comparison?

Yes, I would agree Bitcoin's perseverance has been an *outstanding* achievement.  But I don't think it's primarily due to technical superiority, and achieving the success it has certainly doesn't implicate that idea in any obvious way.

However, you agree that technical superiority isn't everything, so I'm not sure what your point is.  But I am under the suspicion that you took offense to my post by first 1) reading deeper into my post than I had intended and extracted what you belief is a criticism of Bitcoin's technical features (it's not), and then 2) reacting to it because you identify with it.

I identify with Bitcoin, too.   I use it, and despite my luck, I give myself a pat on the back from time to time from having the insight to continue my involvement in this community.  But the point of my post wasn't a knock on BTC's specs, but on the overemphasis of these specs on adoption rates.  If point #2 in my previous paragraph is in any way correct, then you are reinforcing my point.

Imagine someone invents a handgun for personal defense that, for the sake of argument, has the remarkable ability to always target and kill only people engaging in a current act of violence.  It is impossible for this gun to kill an innocent person.

Hands down, this gun is not only better, but is literally the epitome of an effective self-defense weapon.

And nobody will buy the gun unless they not only identify with the belief that it is okay to react violently in self-defense, but identify with it enough so that they are motivated to actually go out of their way and do something about it.

People need to be motivated to use Bitcoin.  Specs alone will never cut it.  If they did, we'd have dozens (if not hundreds) of alt-coins with hands-down superior specs dominating BTC's market cap.

My general analysis is this:  BTC is the poster-child for decentralized cryptocurrencies, and its technical features are viewed as "good enough."  BTC is used primarily because it appeals to people with both certain ideologies and skill sets, and secondarily because of social consensus, i.e. those people who fall into those categories of ideologies and skill sets are generally homogenized.  It doesn't really matter which crypto everyone is using, they will all feel comfortable using it if everyone else is using it.  Its first-mover advantage is the mediating factor which helps explain its perseverance, and from it follows all the VC money flowing into business and infrastructure development.

This. The only way to win is not to play.