Bitcoin Forum

Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: IAMG on April 27, 2015, 07:33:21 PM



Title: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: IAMG on April 27, 2015, 07:33:21 PM
What happened::

I saw the post of this guy and sent a PM for doing business. I'm a newbie, and I was looking to buy some bitcoins with the money in my Skrill account.

He sent me his Skype account and we started to talk about quantity and rates.

After he verified all my payments through screen sharing, I asked him to do the same for verify the transaction to my wallet. Then he deleted me from his skype contacts.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=315206

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1038612.msg11201968#msg11201968

Amount Scammed: 114.29 USD
Payment Method: Skrill

Proof of Payment: http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/Proof_zps65rcp9en.png

PM/Chat Logs:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/0_zpsott0jowq.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/1_zpspa5jkc0s.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/2_zpssgdwkyuc.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/3_zpsownerdnf.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/4_zpsf2zxfxui.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/5_zpsjp7csqtq.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/6_zpsgjxv0i3t.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/7_zpswd5jwkng.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/8_zpsh1s8wnkh.png

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w38/iamg07/9_zpsz8fhyu6t.png


Additional Notes:

Blockchain report:

https://blockchain.info/address/1Q27FyaMByTYgPBiN1Bzmpvyao41Mq3tou

Donīt do business with any johntrade115@gmail.com account. Skrill and Neteller included.



Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: Quickseller on April 27, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
I don't think you are going to get your money back unfortunately. IMO it should have set off a red flag when he agreed to deal in a small amount and then demanded that you send more to get a larger deal done.

You really should have used a trusted middle man (escrow) to prevent this kind of thing from happening, the cost is very little and will give you great protections.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: IAMG on April 27, 2015, 08:03:58 PM
I don't think you are going to get your money back unfortunately. IMO it should have set off a red flag when he agreed to deal in a small amount and then demanded that you send more to get a larger deal done.

You really should have used a trusted middle man (escrow) to prevent this kind of thing from happening, the cost is very little and will give you great protections.

Yes, you're totally right. Lesson learned.

I know I lost my money, but I intend this thread to be a warning for other people.

I don't think I am the first to be scammed by this guy.

It's weird that I couldn't find any other accusations, taking in consideration that his account was created more than a year ago.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: Quickseller on April 27, 2015, 08:07:41 PM
I don't think you are going to get your money back unfortunately. IMO it should have set off a red flag when he agreed to deal in a small amount and then demanded that you send more to get a larger deal done.

You really should have used a trusted middle man (escrow) to prevent this kind of thing from happening, the cost is very little and will give you great protections.

Yes, you're totally right. Lesson learned.

I know I lost my money, but I intend this thread to be a warning for other people.

I don't think I am the first to be scammed by this guy.

It's weird that I couldn't find any other accusations, taking in consideration that his account was created more than a year ago.
I have given him negative trust so he shouldn't be able to scam from that account again.

The account was not used very much, so the most likely result is that he was not able to successfully able to find someone who he was able to scam.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: erikalui on April 28, 2015, 10:30:18 AM
I had contacted him earlier to buy my skrill but fortunately he denied me as the amount was very small and in any case, I never send first. He only accepts large amounts which looked suspicious and he turned out to be a scammer.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: twister on April 28, 2015, 11:51:56 AM
Sorry for your loss. I was told that Skrill can be charged back. Can't you file for it?
Maybe if you present all the information, they might seize his account?


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: erikalui on April 28, 2015, 12:11:11 PM
Sorry for your loss. I was told that Skrill can be charged back. Can't you file for it?
Maybe if you present all the information, they might seize his account?

You can only reverse transactions via Skrill if the cash was loaded from a stolen CC else there is no way it could be reversed unlike PP.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: twister on April 28, 2015, 12:14:03 PM
Sorry for your loss. I was told that Skrill can be charged back. Can't you file for it?
Maybe if you present all the information, they might seize his account?

You can only reverse transactions via Skrill if the cash was loaded from a stolen CC else there is no way it could be reversed unlike PP.

Ah.. I see.
Sorry didn't know about this.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: MarkMJ on April 28, 2015, 12:31:21 PM
Hello,

Skrill can be charged back
Is not the exactly name for it but you can make charged back
IAMG next time be more carefully


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: IAMG on April 28, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
Hello,

Skrill can be charged back
Is not the exactly name for it but you can make charged back
IAMG next time be more carefully

Hello.

Are you sure? I understand that Skrill don't do chargebacks, and besides of that, they have an anti-bitcoins related transactions policy.

What do you know about this?

I'm afraid of they cancelling my account if I do any claim.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: ajareselde on April 28, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
Hello,

Skrill can be charged back
Is not the exactly name for it but you can make charged back
IAMG next time be more carefully

Hello.

Are you sure? I understand that Skrill don't do chargebacks, and besides of that, they have an anti-bitcoins related transactions policy.

What do you know about this?

I'm afraid of they cancelling my account if I do any claim.

Don't be afraid of making a claim against that scammer, and do it ASAP. Dont mention that you didnt receive bitcoin, tel them it was supposed to be something else.
Dont mention any kind of currency exchange you were dealing with. Make up a story, anything u do will be good enough since scammer probably wont deny anything.
The worst thing u can do is to run away from what happened doing nothing.

cheers


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: Vod on April 28, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
Well, the scammer now has lots of negative trust.

But it's no big deal to him - he just walks away from this account and makes another one with no problems.

Always use escrow.   :-\


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: ajareselde on April 29, 2015, 01:54:24 AM
Well, the scammer now has lots of negative trust.

But it's no big deal to him - he just walks away from this account and makes another one with no problems.

Always use escrow.   :-\

Yes, he will just buy another account and scam 2-5x value of purchase of the account, rinse and repeat; and then people are not clear as to why i am against allowing account
re-selling here on forum..

cheers


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: IAMG on April 29, 2015, 06:16:15 PM
Hello,

Skrill can be charged back
Is not the exactly name for it but you can make charged back
IAMG next time be more carefully

Hello.

Are you sure? I understand that Skrill don't do chargebacks, and besides of that, they have an anti-bitcoins related transactions policy.

What do you know about this?

I'm afraid of they cancelling my account if I do any claim.

Don't be afraid of making a claim against that scammer, and do it ASAP. Dont mention that you didnt receive bitcoin, tel them it was supposed to be something else.
Dont mention any kind of currency exchange you were dealing with. Make up a story, anything u do will be good enough since scammer probably wont deny anything.
The worst thing u can do is to run away from what happened doing nothing.

cheers

What should I say?

I imagine Skrill will ask for some transaction evidence.


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: sherbyspark on April 29, 2015, 06:34:20 PM


What should I say?

I imagine Skrill will ask for some transaction evidence.

You might unfortunately have to lie about the transaction . You could either claim it was for a physical product, and ask for proof of delivery. http://help.skrill.com/en/Article/business/chargebacks-and-disputes/dispute-chargeback

Another thing you might as well try, which people usually do with Paypal, is claim your account was hacked, and request a chargeback.
I am not sure which one would be better to do though.
 


Title: Re: Scammed by Bitcoindynamic
Post by: BTC786 on May 16, 2015, 06:32:20 AM
I don't think you are going to get your money back unfortunately. IMO it should have set off a red flag when he agreed to deal in a small amount and then demanded that you send more to get a larger deal done.

You really should have used a trusted middle man (escrow) to prevent this kind of thing from happening, the cost is very little and will give you great protections.

Yes, you're totally right. Lesson learned.

I know I lost my money, but I intend this thread to be a warning for other people.

I don't think I am the first to be scammed by this guy.

It's weird that I couldn't find any other accusations, taking in consideration that his account was created more than a year ago.

I have been scammed too the same way, I sent one scammer 50 USD and he told he is from https://www.changer.com/. After that he demanded another 50 USD to sent his client. This is a TREND of  Scammers