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UPDATE: ! Site is up and running! Claim your first tickets now and stand a chance to win big amount of Bitcoin ~! (http://bitrevenues.com/)

BitRevenues

An idea I came up in January - here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917825.0). I already bought the domain BitRevenues.com in January. I have been using it as a faucet list for the past 3 months while I'm working on the script. Right now, I still have a bit more tweak and the lottery system will be online soon.

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Registration and Login [Done - to be recoded with better password hashing]
Claiming a ticket [Done]
Changing Email, Password and Bitcoin address [Done]
Ticket Lookup [Planned, starting soon] [Done]
Referral System [Done]
Claim a specificed ticket [Done]

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What's BitRevenues?

BitRevenues is a revenues sharing site. The people visit the site and solve a Captcha in the same way that they would visit a normal faucet, with the main difference that they will not receive instant reward in Bitcoin, but a tickets to a round of lottery.

How many winning tickets will there be? How will the revenues be shared?

There's will only be five winners each round. Each of them will be taking ~15% of the revenues earned that round. And we will donate another ~10% to a organization or group (most likely non-profit). The leftover ~10% will be absorbed by me.

How do we determine the winning tickets?

Winning number will be chosen using the last nine number of block transaction ID. For example block #361412, https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000004e0e238d4c49f28c372311b008088537f9e9a93dd223a27. So it would be 9322327 (not 7232239). Block # will be announced before it is available to public on Blockchain.info. Second winning number will be determined by first nine number of md5ed/sha1ed/sha256ed block ID.

Winning ticket #2:
md5(000000000000000004e0e238d4c49f28c372311b008088537f9e9a93dd223a27) = 3b6c0c10096db8b6fb0479d0ae44a7cd - 3610096

Winning ticket #3:

md5(3b6c0c10096db8b6fb0479d0ae44a7cd) = e8c683e5124cf293e3b541557f465bfe - 86835124

And it will continue until winning ticket #5.

For even round we will use MD5 and for odd round we will use SHA1. And for multiple of 9 we will use SHA256. Users can validate the hashed number from online encrypt application such as http://www.sha1-online.com/.

Why three type of hashing methods? Well.. it is just my personalty, I like things which is more complicated.

What if there is less than nine number in the transaction hashes?

It happen once in a life time. If this happen, we will MD5/SHA1/SHA256 the hash. And the hashed hash will be used instead. If the problem (not enough number) is still there, we will MD5/SHA1/SHA256 the hash of the MD5/SHA1/SHA256 again and again.. Till we got one with at least nine number.

Who will we donate the 15% to?

As mentioned, the 15% will be donated to start-up or non-profit organization. This is social responsibly in business term.

What will I do with the 10%?

I will use the 10% to pay for domain and hosting fees. And.. let's be honest, I will keep the leftover. :p.

When will the round end?

One round will last for a minimum of two weeks. Each round must have at least 0.1 Bitcoin in revenues before we can end the round. If there is not enough funds, the round will continue for another week. Until we have enough funds to pay.

How many tickets will there be?

I mentioned above that ticket number will be determined by first nine number of a block hash. That also mean there will be 999,999,999 total tickets.

How do the referral system work?

Unlike other faucet site. We can't give out too many Satoshi (in our case.. tickets). Thus, every time your referral redeemed a ticket, you stand ~10% chance to get a free tickets.

Any ideas? Question? Feedback? Feel free to posts them below.

Where do you get your revenues?

Good question. I get the revenues from multiple advertising networks. One of which would be A-ads since it show our earning to users.

Here's a screenshot of what I had done.

http://c.imgs.us/i/23632dd.png

I edited to make it look bigger. That is the reason why the scroll bar look weird. I'm thinking to replace Google reCaptcha Are you Human? with SolveMedia. However, SolveMedia only pay in Paypal and I dont have Paypal.

Advertise here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1046300.0.

a-ads is not exactly a high-paying ad network

You're right. That's why the screenshot show 6 ad placeholder. We will not be using just A-ads. We will be using advertising networks such as Bitmedia.io and Adbit.co too. We will also be using this forums to sell ad place - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1046300.0.

Anyway, I am done with the validate tickets part. Users can now search for tickets and screenshot them. Just to make thing safe.

Reviewed my code and everything is okay. Two new features* need to be added before I can start. Estimate launch date: 2nd July 2015.

Winning number will be chosen using the last nine number of block transaction ID. For example block #361412, https://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000004e0e238d4c49f28c372311b008088537f9e9a93dd223a27. So it would be 9322327 (not 7232239). Block # will be announced before it is available to public on Blockchain.info. Second winning number will be determined by first nine number of md5ed/sha1ed/sha256ed block ID.

Winning ticket #2:
md5(000000000000000004e0e238d4c49f28c372311b008088537f9e9a93dd223a27) = 3b6c0c10096db8b6fb0479d0ae44a7cd - 3610096

Winning ticket #3:

md5(3b6c0c10096db8b6fb0479d0ae44a7cd) = e8c683e5124cf293e3b541557f465bfe - 86835124

And it will continue until winning ticket #5.

For even round we will use MD5 and for odd round we will use SHA1. And for multiple of 9 we will use SHA256. Users can validate the hashed number from online encrypt application such as http://www.sha1-online.com/.

Why three type of hashing methods? Well.. it is just my personalty, I like things which is more complicated.

*Changing of password and referral system.

This is pretty sweet

Thanks for the supportive comment. Referral system is up.

Referral System: Whenever the person you asked to join roll a ticket, you stand 10% chance to get a free ticket. You dont have the roll the ticket. Thus, making your winning chance higher since you have more tickets.

Interesting idea. Tagging this thread to follow, :).

Thanks. I hope you will enjoy the lottery when it start on 2nd July 2015.

Edited the first post of "How do we determine the winning tickets?" section.

I dont see why members would like to risk not to win anything, when with normal faucets they win 100%, BUT, this might work if site looks good.

Why do people go to casinos/play dice/invest/start businesses/change jobs/go to college/(insert millions of other things here) and risk not winning anything, when they could just hold their money and win 100%?

I dont already understand what you have posted. Do you mean you dont understand why people would go to faucet which they only stand a little chance getting Bitcoin? If so, my 'faucet' aim to payout more to users but less users will get payout.

I would suggest the possibility to buy more tickets and 90%+ of their sales to go in the pot

I second this idea. Offer them for free on faucet claims, with the ability to buy more.

BitRevenues is created for those who want free and fair lottery. And I dont want to deal with the authorities or what so ever. So I wont be adding this features.


I actually thought of this. However the faucet will not be hosted on BitRevenues site. Instead, I will be contacting a few popular faucets such as the Bitcoin Aliens group for them to give out coupon codes. The coupon code will enable our users to get another free roll - without the need to wait.

I like that idea. It also helps promote synergy between faucets, which is a huge plus! Do you have an ETA of when you are planning to launch everything yet?

How many winning tickets will there be? How will the revenues be shared?

The revenues will be shared within 7 parties. Five winning tickets (it can be same person), 1 donation (to start up and/or non-profit) and myself.

The five winning tickets will each get 15% of our total revenues for that round. So, 5 * 15 = 75%.
The organization will get 15%. So, 75% + 15% = 90%.
And.. Lastly, I will get 10%.
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I would have loved this program entirely but the clause here (it can be same person), this should be addressed because I wonder how only one person will win five times in a lottery draw.

It's like any other lottery... why should a person that visited 5x as many times NOT have the ability to get 5x as many rewards? I see nothing wrong with it.

Planning to start it on 2nd July 2015. Not really sure too. I might be switching host and it might take another 24 hours for the DNS switch to took place.


There will be five winners and each winner will get 15% of the total revenue. As for your second question, I think ranlo have already answered.

I'm looking forward to this, :). And DNS propagation should only take a few seconds. You can actually check it in real-time here (https://www.whatsmydns.net/). I love that site, :).

Oh wow. I never knew we could check DNS update using tool like whatsmydns.net. Thanks for the link. :).

There's a few more as well but I like that one because it's quick and accurate, and you can search domain, A Name, and many other things, depending on how the domain's set up.

Added a new features whereas you can specific a ticket you would like to claim. However, the ticket should not be owned by someone before your claim. Also, to make things faster, the referral system will only be one level. You still stand a 5% to 10% chance to get a free ticket when your referral roll. Website is set to be launched at 0700 2nd July 2015 - GMT +0000 - if everything go smooth.

By specifying a ticket you'd like to claim, do you mean like being able to say "I want ticket #79" and then if it's still available, it's yours? Or did you mean something different?

O.K, it means there is room for multiple entry?

Yes. You're right. Users can claim a ticket which is available after the cooldown period* end.


Yes. Each person may claim one tickets per hour.

* one ticket per hour, 24 tickets per day.

This is a good idea but I search for a link or website to signup with your free lottery but I did not see any.

The site isn't up yet. He'll update us here when it's live and ready to use, :).

Alright then, I will be here waiting.

I already uploaded my lottery script to BitRevenues.com. However, registration is disabled. Well, I have some bugs to fix and I need to add ads before I can enable the registration function. Estimated to be ready in 48 hours. Sorry, I can't keep my promise - 0700 2nd July 2015 (GMT +0000).

So do I understand this correctly? The people visit your site and solve a Capthca in the same way that they would visit a normal faucet, with the main difference that they will not receive instant reward in Satoshi, BUT a claim or a token to a lottery? The more tokens you have the higher the probability you have of winning the Lottery?

How many prizes will there be in the lottery? Freebitco.in has 10 winning chances in their lottery.

Yes. You're right. There's will only be five winners each round. Each of them will be taking ~15% of the revenues earned that round. And we will donate another 10% to a organization or group (most likely non-profit). The leftover 10% will be absorbed by me. I hope you understand how the revenues is shared now.

Edit: I hope you dont mind me copying and pasting your text into the first post and website. It's clearer - easy to understand.

Is there any chance you can make a couple revisions to the site? These are major QoL problems:

1) Leave users signed in. Every hour (or when someone returns) they have to go back to login -> sign in -> claim ticket. This makes it take a while sometimes to finally get it done. Leaving users signed in would make this a lot more user-friendly

2) When signed in, forward the user to the claim page when visiting the site. When we use an affiliate link, it always takes the visitor to the "sign up" page. They then have to go to the login page and follow the steps in #1. This is especially problematic on rotators that use this, as the user is ALWAYS taken back to the sign up page

Thanks!

Ahh. Thanks for your suggestions. I'll work on that.

BitRevenues is opened to all. Come, join us and get a free ticket which might make you ~0.015 Bitcoin!

Since it just launched. I have a special 'promotion'. Until next Monday (13/07/2015) you will be able to claim a ticket every 15 minutes. And from next Monday to 13/07/2015 you will be able to claim a ticket every 30 minutes. After the promotion ended, the normal time is back - 1 claim every hour.

Congratulations for the successful lunch of your website, but it would be a little bit better if the adverts were placed in the area that they cannot be clicked mistakenly.

I want to also add that as of about two days ago, I can't visit the faucet anymore without being forwarded off to another site due to one of the ads (an ad has a script that force-forwards the browser to the advertiser's site), so I've been unable to use it.

Hello and thanks for the warm congratulations from you. May I know which Ad slots are you revering to? Currently there's only three advertisements. MellowAds [Header], AdBit.co [Footer] and A-ads [Right sidebar].


Hi Ranlo,

I pushed an update to redirect AdBlocker to http://www.pointerpointer.com/ (a troll site) two days back. If you have AdBlock enabled, please disable it everywhere and visit my site again. Once it is loaded, you can enable AdBlock everywhere and than disable on BitRevenues.com only. I also forgot to mention that I make some changes to the code in index, register and login pages so that signed-in user can click on a link to get back to the dashboard. I hope I got what you wanted in the suggestion you posted in post #35 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1043480.msg11776403#msg11776403).

As far as I know, user with problem going to my site (getting redirected to other site) is due to AdBlock being enabled.

Aha, interesting. I was wondering why nobody else reported it. That explains a lot, :). And yeah, you were right: it was PointerPointer I was being forwarded to, so all is working as it should (BTW, I had never heard of that site and it's awesome -- I started messing with it a couple days ago and shared it with others as well!).

Thanks for the clarification!

You're welcome. I'm glad I helped to solve your problem. :). I will be adding some text to tell others that they are using AdBlock today. Stay tune.

Ahh, timer is set to 30 minutes per claim as of today. This will only last for a week and the normal cooldown time will start - one hour per claim.

PointerPointer is not my site. I find it while searching for "weird website" on Google. Try searching it and there is one which turn your mouse into.. Try.

I updated my rotator (http://faucets.cryptoplace.net) with the 30-minute timer. Will revert it back to an hour when you change it again, :).