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Title: Freefall?
Post by: mobodick on August 31, 2012, 11:30:58 AM
Apparently a good day to be a bear?
Time to sell?


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Technomage on August 31, 2012, 11:38:23 AM
I don't really see anyone other than a very weak hand selling at the moment. It will most likely fall for a while but when that fall stops... be ready.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Photon939 on August 31, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
The market has been oddly quiet the last two days, should be interesting


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: zby on August 31, 2012, 11:48:47 AM
I don't really see anyone other than a very weak hand selling at the moment. It will most likely fall for a while but when that fall stops... be ready.
That's the same thing you were writing last August - it did eventually stop - but in terms of time frames you missed completely.  I don't really think that it will be repeated this time exactly but it was not 'weak' to sell last August.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on August 31, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
The market has been oddly quiet the last two days, should be interesting

This is what I observed:

For about two - three days (Tuesday - Thursday) the action went as follows: Price was around $10.5, what followed were a bunch of small volume buys driving the price slowly up towards $11.2 and then somewhere around that price BAM someone sells a few thousand BTC all at once driving the price right back down to around $10.5 and this repeated a few times. Yesterday and today on the other hand things have quieted down significantly and to me it seems there's a standoff between buyers and sellers testing who's going to give in sooner.

As I sold at $10.78 yesterday my bet is on the sellers and I believe we're going lower for the short term.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: mobodick on August 31, 2012, 07:42:07 PM
The market has been oddly quiet the last two days, should be interesting

This is what I observed:

For about two - three days (Tuesday - Thursday) the action went as follows: Price was around $10.5, what followed were a bunch of small volume buys driving the price slowly up towards $11.2 and then somewhere around that price BAM someone sells a few thousand BTC all at once driving the price right back down to around $10.5 and this repeated a few times. Yesterday and today on the other hand things have quieted down significantly and to me it seems there's a standoff between buyers and sellers testing who's going to give in sooner.

As I sold at $10.78 yesterday my bet is on the sellers and I believe we're going lower for the short term.

Hold on!


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: misterbigg on August 31, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
I saw someone sell 7,500 BTC today, it took the price down to $10.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on August 31, 2012, 07:55:13 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: mobodick on August 31, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?
$9.87
I dunno, you tell me.  ;D


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: 1Pakis on August 31, 2012, 08:01:49 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?

at what price do you have buy orders?


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Piper67 on August 31, 2012, 08:04:39 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?

at what price do you have buy orders?

At the last one  ;)


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Cablez on August 31, 2012, 08:16:01 PM
Where's adam for this?  Single digit coins for sale!!! What's that noise? Oh its me snapping them up, lol.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: jojo69 on August 31, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
Look at the wider markets...the world is J hole crazy today

this might not last long


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: lebing on August 31, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
Look at the wider markets...the world is J hole crazy today

this might not last long

J hole? ???


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: SkRRJyTC on August 31, 2012, 08:24:49 PM
Look at the wider markets...the world is J hole crazy today

this might not last long

J hole? ???
+1


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: jojo69 on August 31, 2012, 08:29:50 PM
sigh

Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke's annual remarks at Jackson Hole WY...primary driver of today's market action


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on August 31, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?

at what price do you have buy orders?

Not placed yet, I speculate I might try and buy between $7.5 - $8.5.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: lebing on August 31, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
"But taken together, the speech sounds a lot like Mr. Bernanke's closing argument in favor of more easing." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443864204577623220212805132.html


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on August 31, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
"But taken together, the speech sounds a lot like Mr. Bernanke's closing argument in favor of more easing." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443864204577623220212805132.html

They'll have to do it eventually, especially since the crash that would follow the already 60% priced in easing but that wouldn't come would be of epic proportions and they can't afford to let that happen. They rather destroy the dollar, I'm certain of it. Either way it's the end of their system.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: kwukduck on August 31, 2012, 09:00:09 PM
lol you're already very late if you still have to sell, better be quick before it hits 0


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Spekulatius on August 31, 2012, 09:05:40 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?

at what price do you have buy orders?

Not placed yet, I speculate I might try and buy between $7.5 - $8.5.

+1


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: notme on August 31, 2012, 09:40:09 PM
"But taken together, the speech sounds a lot like Mr. Bernanke's closing argument in favor of more easing." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443864204577623220212805132.html

They'll have to do it eventually, especially since the crash that would follow the already 60% priced in easing but that wouldn't come would be of epic proportions and they can't afford to let that happen. They rather destroy the dollar, I'm certain of it. Either way it's the end of their system.

Except all the fed's "assets" are long term treasuries, and if they don't prop that they will be fucked.  There won't be anything left for the stock market.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: jojo69 on August 31, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
yes, they have rather painted themselves in to a corner haven't they


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on August 31, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
We Austrian economists always said that that's where their actions will ultimately put them - in a nasty catch 22.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: jojo69 on August 31, 2012, 09:51:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Sitarow on August 31, 2012, 11:09:32 PM
Full moon tonight.

MST 7:26 sunsets.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: lebing on August 31, 2012, 11:15:44 PM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?

at what price do you have buy orders?

Not placed yet, I speculate I might try and buy between $7.5 - $8.5.

+1

Someone pretty large doesnt think its going that low.
https://i.imgur.com/Rvjys.png


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on September 01, 2012, 01:10:03 AM
Am I getting lucky with my prediction?

at what price do you have buy orders?

Not placed yet, I speculate I might try and buy between $7.5 - $8.5.

+1

Someone pretty large doesnt think its going that low.

Perhaps but I didn't buy regardless. It's just the beginning of the (in US extended) weekend and I'm still not convinced there's much potential upside in the short term.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: lucif on September 01, 2012, 05:37:14 PM
Daily MACD is about to cross zero line downside...

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4874/bitcoin59.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/bitcoin59.jpg/)


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: the joint on September 01, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
sigh

Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke's annual remarks at Jackson Hole WY...primary driver of today's market action

Take BTC and buy gold from Coinabul.  Further stimulate the gold markets and simultaneously stimulate the Bitcoin economy.  Win/Win.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: lucif on September 02, 2012, 12:46:56 AM
Freefall started


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: mobodick on September 02, 2012, 04:40:13 AM
Daily MACD is about to cross zero line downside...

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4874/bitcoin59.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/bitcoin59.jpg/)

The problem with MACD is it depends on how many datapoints you feed it.
Hence wether it crosses or not depends on what time resolution you see a given time period.
Also, not freefalling.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: jojo69 on September 02, 2012, 06:00:30 AM
Freefall started

looks like the same floor to me so far


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Cluster2k on September 02, 2012, 07:57:21 AM
If speculators can get a substantial amount of bitcoins back from Pirate they may be tempted to cut their losses and exit bitcoins, especially if the only reason they bought them was to speculate on the hope of getting paid 1% per day.

If Pirate fails to pay a substantial portion of his fund then that may be good for bitcoin's price.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: anthony.selby on September 02, 2012, 06:44:10 PM
How many of those pirate people actually bought bitcoins just to take part of the pirate thing ... I would say its more likely that people already in bitcoins jumped on the pirate thing in which case I doubt the reaction of the sell off would be that much


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: hazek on September 02, 2012, 07:00:24 PM
How many of those pirate people actually bought bitcoins just to take part of the pirate thing ... I would say its more likely that people already in bitcoins jumped on the pirate thing in which case I doubt the reaction of the sell off would be that much

Yeah I agree, I speculate that a sell off will come if the price for what ever reason drops a bit, especially now after everyone got spooked a bit with the latest pop of a bubble and the pirate uncertainty looming over everyone's heads.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: BIGMERVE on September 02, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
How many of those pirate people actually bought bitcoins just to take part of the pirate thing ... I would say its more likely that people already in bitcoins jumped on the pirate thing in which case I doubt the reaction of the sell off would be that much

Yeah I agree, I speculate that a sell off will come if the price for what ever reason drops a bit, especially now after everyone got spooked a bit with the latest pop of a bubble and the pirate uncertainty looming over everyone's heads.

I dont think there's a single thread in this forum that doesn't mention Pirate.


Title: Re: Freefall?
Post by: Cablez on September 02, 2012, 08:51:13 PM
Well that's what happens when you are such a large part of the Bitcoin market.