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Title: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: question2 on May 10, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
Hy this user Joca97 and pureelite and Dominiram are alternate accounts . And are Ban evading and Spamming.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788505.msg8887470#msg8887470
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914063
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643058.msg7180754#msg7180754

I also found pureelite has spam account and everydays spams on his own topic which belonged to Joca.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345106;sa=showPosts
Joca was banned before I saw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914063


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: redsn0w on May 10, 2015, 02:28:52 PM
Hy this user Joca97 and pureelite and Dominiram are alternate accounts . And are Ban evading and Spamming.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788505.msg8887470#msg8887470
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914063
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643058.msg7180754#msg7180754

I also found pureelite has spam account and everydays spams on his own topic which belonged to Joca.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345106;sa=showPosts
Joca was banned before I saw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914063


Have you reported him (or one of his posts, the most spammy) through the function "report to moderator"? I think this is the fastest and easiest way to report them and a thread is not the best way. However waiting a reply from a global mod or admin.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: question2 on May 10, 2015, 02:34:49 PM
no man. It had only one field and I have too much to type.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Joca97 on May 10, 2015, 06:37:42 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

https://i.imgur.com/w5lpTUx.png


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: srgkrgkj on May 10, 2015, 06:54:44 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

https://i.imgur.com/w5lpTUx.png

hmm according to this picture Question 2 you look guilty as hell mate :( there is no need to start blackmailing on the forum simply because you assume a few accounts are alts. Ive been a follower of Jocas gambling thread and hes built up quite some reputation over the time ... Blackmailing is never the right thing to do no matter what condition your under, i dont know if you have debts or other financial commitments but the evidence here shows plain and clearly that your attempting to blackmail Joca :( unless you can cough up some evidence for your side of the story i will have to say that your the guilty one here mate. Joca has been providing a community service for some time so...

edit i also saw you offer advice on how to prevent detection .... hmm dodgy much ?


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Quickseller on May 10, 2015, 07:13:49 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

https://i.imgur.com/w5lpTUx.png
Can you post the text of the address that he sent for you to pay to? I would also suggest reporting the messages to BadBear as extortion is generally frowned upon here.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: ebzec on May 10, 2015, 07:20:12 PM
Why is this in Meta again? It's beginning to look like nothing other than scamming is happening here.
>>>/Sacam Accusations/


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Joca97 on May 10, 2015, 08:07:43 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

https://i.imgur.com/w5lpTUx.png
Can you post the text of the address that he sent for you to pay to? I would also suggest reporting the messages to BadBear as extortion is generally frowned upon here.

You can see in the third message that he asked me to send 0.1 to one of his address

i would also like to state:that those messages that he posted were before i received my ban


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Quickseller on May 10, 2015, 08:10:08 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

https://i.imgur.com/w5lpTUx.png
Can you post the text of the address that he sent for you to pay to? I would also suggest reporting the messages to BadBear as extortion is generally frowned upon here.

You can see in the third message that he asked me to send 0.1 to one of his address

i would also like to state:that those messages that he posted were before i received my ban
I can see the address but it is difficult to copy the address. So can you please copy the text of the address and paste the text of the address (as text not a picture)


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: notlist3d on May 10, 2015, 08:14:26 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

(removed pic save space)
Can you post the text of the address that he sent for you to pay to? I would also suggest reporting the messages to BadBear as extortion is generally frowned upon here.

You can see in the third message that he asked me to send 0.1 to one of his address

i would also like to state:that those messages that he posted were before i received my ban

With ban being January he is past ban.   He can use account and no longer would things be ban evasion as as far as I see it ended in Feb some time.

It is kinda funny that this backfired.  I doubt the mod's go easy on blackmail.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Joca97 on May 10, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
please dont belive a word this guy says ,this guy was trying to blackmail me,he wanted me to send him 0.15 bitcoins for this stupid things

scammer and blackmailer dont trust this guy

proof:

https://i.imgur.com/w5lpTUx.png
Can you post the text of the address that he sent for you to pay to? I would also suggest reporting the messages to BadBear as extortion is generally frowned upon here.

You can see in the third message that he asked me to send 0.1 to one of his address

i would also like to state:that those messages that he posted were before i received my ban
I can see the address but it is difficult to copy the address. So can you please copy the text of the address and paste the text of the address (as text not a picture)
I have just copied the part you asked me to
here is the part of the message:

Send 0.1 BTC to 17zBtp8y7pA5Svr8tNAo3LcGQmG45Nrfaz .
I will not report, and will tell you what to delete to prevent future detection.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Twipple on May 10, 2015, 08:27:08 PM
Hy this user Joca97 and pureelite and Dominiram are alternate accounts . And are Ban evading and Spamming.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=788505.msg8887470#msg8887470
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914063
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643058.msg7180754#msg7180754

I also found pureelite has spam account and everydays spams on his own topic which belonged to Joca.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345106;sa=showPosts
Joca was banned before I saw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914063

Even though he tried to extortion money, I was looking at the account history. And It does seem what he says is true. Both accounts are from Serbia pureelite and Joca97 , and the message posted in op do point out further that they are alts. But he is wrong about the ban evasion as it existed before, however one more thing I have doubt about.

I also found pureelite has spam account and everydays spams on his own topic which belonged to Joca.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345106;sa=showPosts

This is indeed true. It seems the account pureelite is indeed posting on his alt accounts thread . Is it allowed to do this ? Talk to your alts to increase signature post count?



Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Twipple on May 10, 2015, 08:28:50 PM

I have just copied the part you asked me to
here is the part of the message:

Send 0.1 BTC to 17zBtp8y7pA5Svr8tNAo3LcGQmG45Nrfaz .
I will not report, and will tell you what to delete to prevent future detection.
Do you agree that pureelite is your alt account ? Seems that address has never been used before, so I doubt your QuickSaver will be able to help you out on this one.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: umair01 on May 10, 2015, 08:52:24 PM

I have just copied the part you asked me to
here is the part of the message:

Send 0.1 BTC to 17zBtp8y7pA5Svr8tNAo3LcGQmG45Nrfaz .
I will not report, and will tell you what to delete to prevent future detection.
Do you agree that pureelite is your alt account ? Seems that address has never been used before, so I doubt your QuickSaver will be able to help you out on this one.

Blackmailing for bitcoin is wrong no matter what and I dont know why you pull Quicksellers leg all the time, he is one of the most reputed people in the forum. Joca is also one of the nicest people you will meet, whoever trying to extort money from him is doing wrong and should be banned.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Quickseller on May 10, 2015, 08:56:27 PM

I have just copied the part you asked me to
here is the part of the message:

Send 0.1 BTC to 17zBtp8y7pA5Svr8tNAo3LcGQmG45Nrfaz .
I will not report, and will tell you what to delete to prevent future detection.
Do you agree that pureelite is your alt account ? Seems that address has never been used before, so I doubt your QuickSaver will be able to help you out on this one.

Blackmailing for bitcoin is wrong no matter what and I dont know why you pull Quicksellers leg all the time, he is one of the most reputed people in the forum. Joca is also one of the nicest people you will meet, whoever trying to extort money from him is doing wrong and should be banned.
He is right though, I have nothing on that address. The three accounts in the OP are likely all owned (or at least were at one point) by the same person.

The replying to yourself is certainly not a good thing, however I don't think anything will be done about it, as much more prolific spammers have done the same thing (and have been reported) and there was apparently nothing done about it.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Twipple on May 10, 2015, 08:58:07 PM

I have just copied the part you asked me to
here is the part of the message:

Send 0.1 BTC to 17zBtp8y7pA5Svr8tNAo3LcGQmG45Nrfaz .
I will not report, and will tell you what to delete to prevent future detection.
Do you agree that pureelite is your alt account ? Seems that address has never been used before, so I doubt your QuickSaver will be able to help you out on this one.

Blackmailing for bitcoin is wrong no matter what and I dont know why you pull Quicksellers leg all the time, he is one of the most reputed people in the forum. Joca is also one of the nicest people you will meet, whoever trying to extort money from him is doing wrong and should be banned.

Blackmailing for bitcoin is obviously wrong, and I am not actually supporting the op in it. But just sticking to what rules the forum has. Just because if BipolarBob(just a reference) was a good person, then even then he wouldn't be right in spamming the forum if he did so.

As for Quickseller, I am not saying he doesn't help keep scam away, but he is rather not acting logically but acting egoistically on his accusation on me. If today you suddenly see a negative trust on you for no reason, and you know you didn't scam , then probably even you would do the same thing as me.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: Twipple on May 12, 2015, 04:54:15 PM


Even though he tried to extortion money, I was looking at the account history. And It does seem what he says is true. Both accounts are from Serbia pureelite and Joca97 , and the message posted in op do point out further that they are alts. But he is wrong about the ban evasion as it existed before, however one more thing I have doubt about.


Any updates by mods who can chime and tell if this is allowed on the forum . Replying back to your own posts  ? I couldn't find it defined in the rules anywhere.


Title: Re: This user scammed me before and now has more accounts on forum with ban evasion
Post by: BadBear on May 13, 2015, 06:30:49 AM


Even though he tried to extortion money, I was looking at the account history. And It does seem what he says is true. Both accounts are from Serbia pureelite and Joca97 , and the message posted in op do point out further that they are alts. But he is wrong about the ban evasion as it existed before, however one more thing I have doubt about.


Any updates by mods who can chime and tell if this is allowed on the forum . Replying back to your own posts  ? I couldn't find it defined in the rules anywhere.

That's an awful specific thing to make a rule about, I can think of a few times I've seen it and haven't taken action (not everything is about sig spam, though it seems to be these days) So that specifically isn't against the rules no, but in general it's not a good practice to engage in if you want to avoid being labeled a spammer, particularly if you have ads in your signature.

I won't be used as a tool for extortionists or enable that sort of behavior, so I'll excuse it, though this should be taken as a warning.