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Title: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 30, 2011, 01:12:23 PM
Hello.

I've downloaded the Bitcoin client for Mac OS X last weekend, and i've the tried the "Faucet Test" several times, but it didn't work. I've never received something and i got no hint what's going wrong.

The client shows 7 connections, 127654 blocks and 0 transactions. The Bitcoin Version is 0.3.21-beta, the machine is running Mac OS X 10.6.7 and the Bitcoin Adress is 1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9 .

What can i do? Any hints, any ideas?  ???


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: proudhon on May 30, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
Hello.

I've downloaded the Bitcoin client for Mac OS X last weekend, and i've the tried the "Faucet Test" several times, but it didn't work. I've never received something and i got no hint what's going wrong.

The client shows 2 connections, 127647 blocks and 0 transactions. The Bitcoin Version is 0.3.21-beta, the machine is running Mac OS X 10.6.7 and the Bitcoin Adress is 1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9 .

What can i do? Any hints, any ideas?  ???

Maybe the faucet is out.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 30, 2011, 01:26:56 PM
And what can i do?


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: stic.man on May 30, 2011, 01:29:18 PM
if the faucet is out you'll have to buy some through mt gox, another exchange, or the IRC channel


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 30, 2011, 01:34:34 PM
That's not the problem. The "Faucet Test"-website shows "Sent!".

But sadly the client gets no "transaction failed"-message, or something else.
So i mean: it seems the client makes nothing. Is it broken?

How can i test it?
How can i see what's going wrong?


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: sammoocow on May 30, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
Try searching http://blockexplorer.com/ for your address. If the faucet transaction shows up, then that would indicate it is indeed your client that has the problem. But if the block chain isn't even recognizing the transaction, it's probably the faucet's problem.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 30, 2011, 03:31:38 PM
Thank you. :)

Fine. I get this: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9 (http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9)
(Why isn't that functionality inside the client?)

Quote
First seen?: Never used on the network (as far as I can tell)
Received transactions: 0
Received BTC: 0
Sent transactions: 0
Sent BTC: 0
Hash160?: a52980010a376b171f13d484620a47a04a636e06
Public key?:
Unknown (not seen yet)

How can i identify and solve the problem with that?


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: sammoocow on May 30, 2011, 09:02:31 PM
Well that shows there haven't been any transactions on that address, so if that's the one you entered on the faucet, then it was probably out and never sent them to you.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 03:58:22 AM
That's the result after some days? Oh my...

So i resume: it is complicated and doesn't really work.  :'(


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: TheMagikarp on May 31, 2011, 06:53:53 AM
That's the result after some days? Oh my...

So i resume: it is complicated and doesn't really work.  :'(
That's a rather obtuse conclusion.

The Bitcoin Faucet can only give out Bitcoins if there are Bitcoins in it to be given out. Right now it is empty, and thus cannot give out Bitcoins.

That's why you don't have any Bitcoins.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 07:19:04 AM
That's a rather obtuse conclusion.
Return to sender.

The Bitcoin Faucet can only give out Bitcoins if there are Bitcoins in it to be given out. Right now it is empty, and thus cannot give out Bitcoins. That's why you don't have any Bitcoins.
At all times i tried that the counter of the Faucet had Bitcoins.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: theymos on May 31, 2011, 07:53:32 AM
Maybe your request looked illegitimate for some reason, and the request was silently discarded. The Faucet pretends to pay when it sees abuse.

The Faucet never sent the coins, so it's not a problem with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 08:46:00 AM
I tried the same.

posted the address on the faucet for .02 bitcoins.

Been running bitcoin all day nothings showed up on the amount box.

Checked http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EY2NXaZfD76MrhezDnoWNMKQ4ku7WjoaL and it looks like it registered, but nothing on my local portal. If this works this is gold, but if I can't get it running as easy as mtorrent how can I trust this p2p system to work. I want to be able to store my bitcoins in a usb and under my bed mattress.

Show me how and its golden.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 09:55:24 AM
Maybe your request looked illegitimate for some reason, and the request was silently discarded. The Faucet pretends to pay when it sees abuse.

The Faucet never sent the coins, so it's not a problem with Bitcoin.
Ya! Maybe... It can be anything. But i don't know.

I just know: I've tested Bitcoin and it didn't work. So it's a Bitcoin problem.


The quintessential after this failture is, i don't try to integrate bitcoin-payment in our webshop, because the bitcoin-system doesn't seems to be trustworthy for me. A real pity.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: foo on May 31, 2011, 10:07:38 AM
I tried the same.

posted the address on the faucet for .02 bitcoins.

Been running bitcoin all day nothings showed up on the amount box.
Your client has to download the whole block chain first. Check that the number in the lower right corner of the window is at least 127730. (The block that includes the transaction that you linked to.)


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 10:13:50 AM
Maybe your request looked illegitimate for some reason, and the request was silently discarded. The Faucet pretends to pay when it sees abuse.

The Faucet never sent the coins, so it's not a problem with Bitcoin.
Ya! Maybe... It can be anything. But i don't know.

I just know: I've tested Bitcoin and it didn't work. So it's a Bitcoin problem.


The quintessential after this failture is, i don't try to integrate bitcoin-payment in our webshop, because the bitcoin-system doesn't seems to be trustworthy for me. A real pity.


Hi, baby, calm down!

I'll send you 0.01BTCs to test whether it works.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: TheMagikarp on May 31, 2011, 10:15:20 AM
Ya! Maybe... It can be anything. But i don't know.

I just know: I've tested Bitcoin and it didn't work. So it's a Bitcoin problem.


The quintessential after this failture is, i don't try to integrate bitcoin-payment in our webshop, because the bitcoin-system doesn't seems to be trustworthy for me. A real pity.

It just clicked! You're trying to get someone to send you free Bitcoins.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 10:20:38 AM
I'll send you 0.01BTCs to test whether it works.
Wait! I've deleted Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 10:21:30 AM
Hi, I have send 0.009 BTC to you, cause I have only 0.01BTC in that account.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 10:23:05 AM
I'll send you 0.01BTCs to test whether it works.
Wait! I've deleted Bitcoin.

It's ok, but hope you can be more patient in the future.

Wish the God help you.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 10:28:09 AM
Thanks foo.

Makes sense.

So it takes roughly 4 hours since running bitcoin to download the block chain (so far 104,000). It currently takes two to three days to clear a check or a day to access online banking funds.

But as the block chain grows larger won't it take longer and longer to process a payment?

Or have i missed something about?

How much bandwidth does running this client use, anyway?




Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 10:34:26 AM
Only the first time, it will take several hours.

After that, it will much faster, In my case, it usually took 20 minutes, maximum 1 hour to show on my local client.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 10:38:40 AM
It's ok, but hope you can be more patient in the future.

Wish the God help you.
I've deleted it yesterday, but i've tried since friday.  :-\

A colleague has waited about 10 minutes, before he gave up.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 10:44:48 AM
Only the first time, it will take several hours.

After that, it will much faster, In my case, it usually took 20 minutes, maximum 1 hour to show on my local client.

Thanks

so after bitcoin builds the initial blkindex each time i run it it simply adds to build. Do i back up only the wallet file or the entire folder?  Seriously I want to hid my back up usb under my mattress.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 10:45:48 AM
It's ok, but hope you can be more patient in the future.

Wish the God help you.
I've deleted it yesterday, but i've tried since friday.  :-\

A colleague has waited about 10 minutes, before he gave up.

Never mind, you young guys today are impatient, you can not wait.

As you grow older, you will be mature and would like to wait.

Sometimes patience is also very critical for your personal success.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 10:52:20 AM
Only the first time, it will take several hours.

After that, it will much faster, In my case, it usually took 20 minutes, maximum 1 hour to show on my local client.

Thanks

so after bitcoin builds the initial blkindex each time i run it it simply adds to build. Do i back up only the wallet file or the entire folder?  Seriously I want to hid my back up usb under my mattress.

You only need to backup the wallet.dat file.

However, if you backup the entire folder, it can save your time to download all the blockindex.

If you want to hid your usb, you can consider run the bitcoin with a parameter -datadir=Bitcoin

You can copy the folder \AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin to the same directory of Bitcoin.exe,
And then save the folder contains both the program and the AppData.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
Only the first time, it will take several hours.

After that, it will much faster, In my case, it usually took 20 minutes, maximum 1 hour to show on my local client.

Thanks

so after bitcoin builds the initial blkindex each time i run it it simply adds to build. Do i back up only the wallet file or the entire folder?  Seriously I want to hid my back up usb under my mattress.

You only need to backup the wallet.dat file.

However, if you backup the entire folder, it can save your time to download all the blockindex.

If you want to hid your usb, you can consider run the bitcoin with a parameter -datadir=Bitcoin

You can copy the folder \AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin to the same directory of Bitcoin.exe,
And then save the folder contains both the program and the AppData.

thanks

will do.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: foo on May 31, 2011, 11:56:42 AM
Also, note that the first 120,000 blocks are available as a .zip here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
You can speed up the installation of a new client using that archive.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 12:00:48 PM
Also, note that the first 120,000 blocks are available as a .zip here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
You can speed up the installation of a new client using that archive.

My builds at 190000 but good to know.

thanks


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 12:29:40 PM
Also, note that the first 120,000 blocks are available as a .zip here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
You can speed up the installation of a new client using that archive.

Thanks, by the way, do you what will happen if the guy have delete his wallet and I still transfered btcs to his address?


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 12:43:15 PM
Also, note that the first 120,000 blocks are available as a .zip here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
You can speed up the installation of a new client using that archive.

Thanks, by the way, do you what will happen if the guy have delete his wallet and I still transfered btcs to his address?

I have no idea. I guess from what i learnt so far the BC's get lost forever.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on May 31, 2011, 12:56:04 PM
Also, note that the first 120,000 blocks are available as a .zip here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
You can speed up the installation of a new client using that archive.

Thanks, by the way, do you what will happen if the guy have delete his wallet and I still transfered btcs to his address?

I have no idea. I guess from what i learnt so far the BC's get lost forever.

There maybe really something wrong with sixofusu's account, because I checked the

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9

still nothing. I have transfered 0.009btcs to this address two hours ago.

For comparison, I send 0.01 BTCs to another address, It has already showed.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 02:02:43 PM
That's what im saying: It doesn't work. :(

I even had tried new adresses, but with same results.
There was no indication, what's going wrong or what's the problem.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 02:13:47 PM
That's what im saying: It doesn't work. :(

I even had tried new adresses, but with same results.
There is no indication, what's going wrong or what's the problem.

I am no expert but try this from what i've learnt so far.

Try Back up your wallet and reload bitcoin. run it again and update block chain with 

 
Also, note that the first 120,000 blocks are available as a .zip here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/blockchain/
You can speed up the installation of a new client using that archive.

in a few block i will find out if mine worked.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 02:26:04 PM
Try Back up your wallet and reload bitcoin. run it again and update block chain with
I've deinstalled bitcoin and deleted everything.

EDIT: I could recover it from the time machine. *facepalm*
So I'll try that.

in a few block i will find out if mine worked.
The blockchain counter was complete. (As showed at my initial post)


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: foo on May 31, 2011, 02:30:04 PM
There maybe really something wrong with sixofusu's account, because I checked the

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9

still nothing. I have transfered 0.009btcs to this address two hours ago.

For comparison, I send 0.01 BTCs to another address, It has already showed.

Your transaction is not listed on http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/. This means that your client has not broadcasted it onto the network yet.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on May 31, 2011, 02:38:39 PM
 :o  0.02 bitcoins. it worked. now to back it up and hide it under my bed mattress.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
Okay. I'll give it a second try. And i try it your way. Let's see what happens.

I'm downloading the blockchain-zip. Must i take the old wallet and addr file?

Waiting for blockchain-updates...

Updating blockchain at snail's pace


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: jashan on May 31, 2011, 03:15:05 PM
I just ran into the same situation: All new to this, got the Bitcoin client installed, got a few transactions going (one from https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ 2 more from VirWoX) and wondered why nothing shows in my client. I'm at "82668 blocks" and after restarting the client, I have 0 connections. Before I had 1 connection. I've had the client running for about 6 hours I guess but the blocks didn't increase (for a couple of minutes while I stared at them ;-) ) ... a few minutes after the restart now, and I have "1 connections" and the blocks are increasing. Nice ;-)

Thanks to this thread, I was able to look the transactions up in http://blockexplorer.com/ (they are there). And I think now I kind of understand what the problem is - but I guess most people won't go on a forum search to use a "wallet" and will just leave in frustration which I think would be really sad because this seems like a really promising system.

So, I guess it would help a lot of the client at least showed some sort of warning "blocks out of date, please wait until you're up to date". I'm really new to this, but I guess if there's zip-files with blocks it should also be possible to somehow get at least an estimate of what the current "blocks #" should be.

And, of course, it's really weird that a P2P network only works with a single connection ... but I guess that's off-topic ...


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: foo on May 31, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
And, of course, it's really weird that a P2P network only works with a single connection ... but I guess that's off-topic ...
The client strives to keep 8 connections open. If this fails for some reason, you can add some nodes manually as explained on the Wiki:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SqJrP-MOHrsJ:https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Fallback_Nodes
(Google cache since the server is down right now.)


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 04:00:17 PM
I just ran into the same situation: ...
Thank you for the consolation.

It is not same problem, but currently i get no connection too. :(


but I guess most people won't go on a forum search to use a "wallet" and will just leave in frustration which I think would be really sad because this seems like a really promising system.
Right. Most people don't do that. They just leave wordless.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on May 31, 2011, 04:44:47 PM
There maybe really something wrong with sixofusu's account, because I checked the

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9

still nothing. I have transfered 0.009btcs to this address two hours ago.

For comparison, I send 0.01 BTCs to another address, It has already showed.

Your transaction is not listed on http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/. This means that your client has not broadcasted it onto the network yet.

Interesting. So how does this help to solve the problem?


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: theymos on May 31, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
There maybe really something wrong with sixofusu's account, because I checked the

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9

still nothing. I have transfered 0.009btcs to this address two hours ago.

For comparison, I send 0.01 BTCs to another address, It has already showed.


Sub-cent transactions are not widely accepted by miners, and the most recent stable version of Bitcoin still refuses to relay them.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on June 01, 2011, 07:12:41 AM
What's the current blockchain-counter-value?


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: gongcheng on June 01, 2011, 07:52:43 AM
There maybe really something wrong with sixofusu's account, because I checked the

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G4JD8B2y3LjZ8iop6XHCsB6qQUsSfnWp9

still nothing. I have transfered 0.009btcs to this address two hours ago.

For comparison, I send 0.01 BTCs to another address, It has already showed.


Sub-cent transactions are not widely accepted by miners, and the most recent stable version of Bitcoin still refuses to relay them.

That make sense!


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: foo on June 01, 2011, 08:23:02 AM
What's the current blockchain-counter-value?
http://blockexplorer.com/q/getblockcount


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on June 01, 2011, 08:54:29 AM
What's the current blockchain-counter-value?
http://blockexplorer.com/q/getblockcount
Thanks. The update has finished.

I am no expert but try this from what i've learnt so far.
...... reload bitcoin. run it again and update block chain with

I've done all of that. I'm again up and running. Let's try.

The adress is 1D5mqAPBHaSrpsfgJXhFpsC5apuMy7X2rB


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: mennoman on June 02, 2011, 07:16:48 AM
The faucet was and is down. Outstanding...


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: spleeder on June 02, 2011, 09:57:48 AM

My builds at 190000 but good to know.


Impossible as there are currently only about 128000 blocks in the block chain.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: hyperD on June 03, 2011, 11:56:37 AM

My builds at 190000 but good to know.


Impossible as there are currently only about 128000 blocks in the block chain.


119000. typo. meaning i'd already downloaded most of the block chain. :-*


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: kyoo on June 04, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
Hi Bitcoin community!

I would very much appreciate any explanation/help on an a transaction I did, that doesn't work. Thanks in advance!

I'm using Bitcoin 0.3.21-beta on Mac OS 10.6.7. I have 2 wallets. One is my "savings-wallet" and the other my "current-wallet". Depending on what account I want to use I replace the wallet.dat file before I start the Bitcoin application.

On 29.5.11 18:11 (UTC+1) I sent a transaction of 5.00 BTC without a transaction fee (debit shows -5.00 in the Bitcoin application) from my current account from the address: 1PqYze7YmxivhKkKkCR8FznF6RBfy64nDK
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1PqYze7YmxivhKkKkCR8FznF6RBfy64nDK

to my address in my savings account:
1DweYrezjeSe4RxvC2RBUwe32GJDTr61im
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1DweYrezjeSe4RxvC2RBUwe32GJDTr61im

PROBLEM: In my savings account, who holds the receiving address: 1DweYrezjeSe4RxvC2RBUwe32GJDTr61im
The transaction of 5.00 BTC never showed up, till today after almost a week! :(

The Transaction seems to have been processed in block 127692 (2011-05-30 19:54:48):
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/9b6ccfa5e50d5088482cfbec03a69860873d5ea22846e60ed21bf02da574a605#i902584

According to rules I don't yet understand it has been split up into 3 seperate transactions: 3.07 + 0.47 + 1.47 = 5.01 BTC

As far as I understand block 127692 has been processed by 1NY6SY67qxZ7X75M1pL2v8qLRGn25unV8Z and this address has received 0.01 BTC from me. So I don't understand why in my current wallet it shows me only a debit of -5.00 BTC when in fact I had to pay 5.01 BTC?
I have NOT YET SET the bitcoin application to pay a transaction fee. Yes, I agree it's a good thing to pay the fee in the future I will of course do that as someone has to work to make a transaction happening...

In my current wallet the transaction with -5.00 BTC shows 883 confirmations at the moment.


Because the above mentioned transaction didn't work till today, I sent for testing purposes another 0.10 BTC from my current wallet from the address: 1PqYze7YmxivhKkKkCR8FznF6RBfy64nDK

to my savings wallet: 1DweYrezjeSe4RxvC2RBUwe32GJDTr61im. This transaction worked and I received it in my savings wallet. Including the 0.01 BTC transaction fee the debit on my current wallet shows -0.11 BTC. As you can see here:
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1DweYrezjeSe4RxvC2RBUwe32GJDTr61im

I have the Port 8333 open and 46 connections and I have downloaded from scratch some minutes ago 128577 blocks.

Anyone helping me here to solve my problem will receive a fair amount of BTC's :) THANKS AGAIN


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: sammoocow on June 04, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
Kyoo, this is news to me too, but after looking on the Bitcoin transaction fees page (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees) on the wiki, I found out that there are some default fee rules built into the client. One of them is this:

Quote
0.01 BTC fee per kilobyte of transaction, but:

  • If the blocksize (size of all transactions currently waiting to be included in a block) is less than 27 kB, transactions are free.
  • If the blocksize is more than 250 kB, transactions get increasingly more expensive as the blocksize approaches the limit of 500 kB. Sending a transaction when the blocksize is 400 kB will cost 5 times the normal amount; sending when it's 499 kB will cost 500x, etc.

That seems like it explains what happened to you, though I am not sure (I have no idea what the state of those two conditions listed are). However it is most likely some sort of default rule in the bitcoin client. To stop these fees, the wiki recommends the free transaction relay policy (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Free_transaction_relay_policy), but as you can see not many miners are participating.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: kyoo on June 04, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
Kyoo, this is news to me too, but after looking on the Bitcoin transaction fees page (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees) on the wiki, I found out that there are some default fee rules built into the client. One of them is this:

Quote
0.01 BTC fee per kilobyte of transaction, but:

  • If the blocksize (size of all transactions currently waiting to be included in a block) is less than 27 kB, transactions are free.
  • If the blocksize is more than 250 kB, transactions get increasingly more expensive as the blocksize approaches the limit of 500 kB. Sending a transaction when the blocksize is 400 kB will cost 5 times the normal amount; sending when it's 499 kB will cost 500x, etc.

That seems like it explains what happened to you, though I am not sure (I have no idea what the state of those two conditions listed are). However it is most likely some sort of default rule in the bitcoin client. To stop these fees, the wiki recommends the free transaction relay policy (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Free_transaction_relay_policy), but as you can see not many miners are participating.

sammoocow, thanks for your input! My concern is not about having to pay a fee, more about why the client didn't ask me to put a fee/forced me to put a fee while sending the transaction request or what else the reason is, that the transaction of my 5.00 BTC got lost/doesn't arrive in my other wallet.


Title: Re: Transactions don't work? (Mac OS X)
Post by: sammoocow on June 04, 2011, 08:11:29 PM
I'm confused. Don't the default fee rules I posted explain why you were forced to pay a fee?

As for why it took so long to transfer, I have no idea.