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Title: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 04, 2015, 09:35:29 PM
I run JeffColo near Portland, OR. I have a customer who would like to sell their 15 x SP20 miners hosted in my facility (Just the miners, I provide PSU's with hosting).

I'm looking for competitive offers in BTC only for the immediate transfer of ownership of these machines. I can have them hashing for you within 6 confirms.

If you would like to keep the miners in my facility I will provide rented PSU's (dps2000bb) for these machines free of charge and in addition I will also match any competitive hosting deal. If you would prefer to take possession of the miners that is also no problem as I can ship them in the original packaging but the shipping costs are on the buyer.

I'm willing to sell them individually or in groups, all 15 don't have to be purchased in one lot.

The miners arrived at this facility in early Jan 2015 and have been mining at 18.3 thash @ 10.0kW (0.546W/ghash at the wall) running 40% fan speed the entire time.

Post here or PM me if interested; I will keep a follow up post with with a tally of users who are winning.

About JeffColo;

  • Redundant 1 GbE fiber connectivity, ultra low latency <1ms to NWAX peer exchange, 4G LTE backup
  • Fully redundant network fabric with redundant ethernet feeds available
  • Customer VLAN's and dedicated IP's available for additional cost
  • Remote access available through port-forward, VPN or dedicated VPS server in our own facility
  • Full VPS service on site for running your ckproxy, your own pool, full bitcoin peer node or whatever
  • Power delivery via 3 phase 208/120 - Site A
  • Power delivery via 3 phase 480/277 - Site B


Current tally;

cheeseater           5 x $385
thedreamer          4 x $375
anonymous          2 x $370
anonymous        15 x $370
anonymous          2 x $365
anonymous         15 x $330
mrx                    15 x $325
 
UDPATE: AUCTION ENDED 06/08/2015 @ 11:59:59 PM PDT

WINNERS:

cheeseater           5 x $385
thedreamer          4 x $375
anonymous          2 x $370
anonymous          4 x $370


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Digitalmocking on June 04, 2015, 09:51:42 PM
How long have these been mining?  Are they the SP20E or the SP20?

Have they been running full power (1.6th/sec+) or at lower rates?



Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Cheeseater on June 04, 2015, 10:43:27 PM
Just want to say that Sunbreak has been hosting for me for nearly seven months and I've had zero downtime due to hosting issues. He has been super helpful in getting the most efficiency out of my miners and helping me turn a profit. And on that note I'll offer $385 per for five units. ;D


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sjenja on June 04, 2015, 10:55:19 PM
What are the hosting expenses for a SP20/E, and what hashrate do they actually make?   


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 04, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
How long have these been mining?  Are they the SP20E or the SP20?

Have they been running full power (1.6th/sec+) or at lower rates?



They are SP20 not the SP20E .. btw if anyone actually knows what the difference is I would love to know. I have both here and they seem to operate the same.

The miners arrived at this facility in early Jan 2015 and have been mining at 18.3 thash @ 10.0kW (0.546W/ghash at the wall) running 40% fan speed the entire time.



Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 05, 2015, 12:00:06 AM
What are the hosting expenses for a SP20/E, and what hashrate do they actually make?  

The new owner would have to create a new account with us. I don't particularly post any price; I do competitive matching. You show me the best deal you can get and I'll match it. If for some reason I am unable to match the offer I will gladly pack them up and drop them off at your favorite shipping company if you pay the shipping expenses. No charge for packing up and drop off though. If you are local to the Portland, OR area then I would even be willing to meet somewhere to exchange them physically.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: padrino on June 05, 2015, 12:21:39 AM
How long have these been mining?  Are they the SP20E or the SP20?

Have they been running full power (1.6th/sec+) or at lower rates?



They are SP20 not the SP20E .. btw if anyone actually knows what the difference is I would love to know. I have both here and they seem to operate the same.

The miners arrived at this facility in early Jan 2015 and have been mining at 18.3 thash @ 10.0kW (0.546W/ghash at the wall) running 40% fan speed the entire time.



They SP20E is about 100W more efficient than the SP20 if I recall correctly..


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 05, 2015, 12:32:54 AM
How long have these been mining?  Are they the SP20E or the SP20?

Have they been running full power (1.6th/sec+) or at lower rates?



They are SP20 not the SP20E .. btw if anyone actually knows what the difference is I would love to know. I have both here and they seem to operate the same.

The miners arrived at this facility in early Jan 2015 and have been mining at 18.3 thash @ 10.0kW (0.546W/ghash at the wall) running 40% fan speed the entire time.



They SP20E is about 100W more efficient than the SP20 if I recall correctly..

Interesting ... perhaps at full power they are but I can assure you underclocked they perform the same.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sidehack on June 05, 2015, 12:59:41 AM
Someone mentioned the SP20E had some slight case improvements made to keep boards from popping out and tearing stuff up during shipping. I don't know what electronics were changed between the two models, but as someone that's had to fix damaged internals on these, that change is certainly welcome.

Additionally, for what it's worth, I've known and done some business with sunbreak (through internet means) for over a year and he's a straight shooter knows what he's doing.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Digitalmocking on June 05, 2015, 01:26:17 AM
I have 4 of each, the SP20Es run about 5% more efficient and two or three degrees cooler.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Acid Alchamy on June 05, 2015, 01:34:24 AM
Maybe in the SP20E's the fan is actually turned around like how it should be ;D


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 05, 2015, 02:47:18 AM
I have 4 of each, the SP20Es run about 5% more efficient and two or three degrees cooler.

That's about right from what I see with my SP20 and SP20e's.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 05, 2015, 06:20:39 PM
I have 4 of each, the SP20Es run about 5% more efficient and two or three degrees cooler.

That's about right from what I see with my SP20 and SP20e's.

Man.. now you have me all curious.... time to get the current meter out :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 06, 2015, 05:34:06 AM
I have 4 of each, the SP20Es run about 5% more efficient and two or three degrees cooler.

That's about right from what I see with my SP20 and SP20e's.

Man.. now you have me all curious.... time to get the current meter out :)

Ok .. underclocked the difference shrinks to about 10 watts based on my readings at 1200 ghash @ 649 watts SP20 vs 1200 ghash @ 639 watts for the SP20E


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 06, 2015, 05:46:16 AM
On mine at around 1KGH/s (480-530watts) I get a 20-30watt difference at the wall between them.
Some better than others.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Digitalmocking on June 06, 2015, 06:01:16 AM
I have 4 of each, the SP20Es run about 5% more efficient and two or three degrees cooler.

That's about right from what I see with my SP20 and SP20e's.

Man.. now you have me all curious.... time to get the current meter out :)

Ok .. underclocked the difference shrinks to about 10 watts based on my readings at 1200 ghash @ 649 watts SP20 vs 1200 ghash @ 639 watts for the SP20E

I run mine around 800w at the wall for pretty much all my SP20s, (3 per 2880 IBM PSU) and the SP20es run 4 - 5% less draw for the same hash, but it does shrink when you get to the 600w range


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Digitalmocking on June 06, 2015, 06:03:41 AM
Sorry about hijacking your thread, I'm honestly interested in buying the miners, but for some reason the market for used miners is frankly outrageous.  For some reason people seem to think these should sell for what they were originally priced at new or in some cases even more (ebay.com).

I've got more power being delivered next week to my small hosting space, when that's delivered, I'll make an offer, but I'm thinking in the ~300 per range, if that's not something the seller would be interested in at all, I understand, but I think paying more than that for used gear when next gen is around the corner is crazy.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: quakefiend420 on June 06, 2015, 06:51:23 AM
Sorry about hijacking your thread, I'm honestly interested in buying the miners, but for some reason the market for used miners is frankly outrageous.  For some reason people seem to think these should sell for what they were originally priced at new or in some cases even more (ebay.com).

I've got more power being delivered next week to my small hosting space, when that's delivered, I'll make an offer, but I'm thinking in the ~300 per range, if that's not something the seller would be interested in at all, I understand, but I think paying more than that for used gear when next gen is around the corner is crazy.

The reason that used gear is drawing these prices is because you aren't going to get anything anywhere else.  S5 from Bitmain, that's it.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 06, 2015, 12:59:09 PM
Sorry about hijacking your thread, I'm honestly interested in buying the miners, but for some reason the market for used miners is frankly outrageous.  For some reason people seem to think these should sell for what they were originally priced at new or in some cases even more (ebay.com).

I've got more power being delivered next week to my small hosting space, when that's delivered, I'll make an offer, but I'm thinking in the ~300 per range, if that's not something the seller would be interested in at all, I understand, but I think paying more than that for used gear when next gen is around the corner is crazy.

....Around the corner...... Really? You mean possibly at the end of the year!?  :D

On here people KNOW the prices and market, so no need to low ball or mis-lead with prices you could never fill yourself. I understand buying low, sell high, but when you try to back your comments with fake info, it just makes you look......like an ahole.  ;)

If someone doesn't like the prices, MOVE ON. http://www.ctguntalk.com/smf/Smileys/solosmileys/eyejack.gif


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: WBF1 on June 06, 2015, 02:20:58 PM
Sorry about hijacking your thread, I'm honestly interested in buying the miners, but for some reason the market for used miners is frankly outrageous.  For some reason people seem to think these should sell for what they were originally priced at new or in some cases even more (ebay.com).

I've got more power being delivered next week to my small hosting space, when that's delivered, I'll make an offer, but I'm thinking in the ~300 per range, if that's not something the seller would be interested in at all, I understand, but I think paying more than that for used gear when next gen is around the corner is crazy.

....Around the corner...... Really? You mean possibly at the end of the year!?  :D

On here people KNOW the prices and market, so no need to low ball or mis-lead with prices you could never fill yourself. I understand buying low, sell high, but when you try to back your comments with fake info, it just makes you look......like an ahole.  ;)

If someone doesn't like the prices, MOVE ON. http://www.ctguntalk.com/smf/Smileys/solosmileys/eyejack.gif

I think its a fair point that S5s can be had for around 375 shipped, new, from the manufacturer.

Edit: this isn't the thread I thought it was where someone was asking 375 + shipping for used S5s.

Commentary: I don't see why everyone gets upset on these boards when prices are negotiated. It's just business. If someone offers an "unfairly" low price, don't sell to them. If someone asks an "unfairly" high price, don't buy from them. It a that simple. Prices are only "wrong" when transactions aren't made. As for trying to convince the other party to change what they are bidding/asking, that's fair game of course. And if you use speculation or made up "info" in an attempt to do so, you will lose credibility and come off as a dumbass. These miners are only "worth" what buyers are willing to pay for them. They are still profitable to mine with for the most part, so you have to assume the seller needs liquidity sooner than expected or they are bearish on mining profitability going forward. Buyers are obviously bullish on mining profitability going forward. Of course economic factors are not the only factors. There may be collectors or hobbyists who are motivated by other factors than profitability.

Commentary TL;DR: free markets are complicated. Don't take it personal and get upset with how they function.

Edit 2: apologies for the rant and hijacking the thread. Back to our regularly scheduled sale then.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 06, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
Sorry about hijacking your thread, I'm honestly interested in buying the miners, but for some reason the market for used miners is frankly outrageous.  For some reason people seem to think these should sell for what they were originally priced at new or in some cases even more (ebay.com).

I've got more power being delivered next week to my small hosting space, when that's delivered, I'll make an offer, but I'm thinking in the ~300 per range, if that's not something the seller would be interested in at all, I understand, but I think paying more than that for used gear when next gen is around the corner is crazy.

....Around the corner...... Really? You mean possibly at the end of the year!?  :D

On here people KNOW the prices and market, so no need to low ball or mis-lead with prices you could never fill yourself. I understand buying low, sell high, but when you try to back your comments with fake info, it just makes you look......like an ahole.  ;)

If someone doesn't like the prices, MOVE ON. http://www.ctguntalk.com/smf/Smileys/solosmileys/eyejack.gif

I think its a fair point that S5s can be had for around 375 shipped, new, from the manufacturer.

Edit: this isn't the thread I thought it was where someone was asking 375 + shipping for used S5s.

Commentary: I don't see why everyone gets upset on these boards when prices are negotiated. It's just business. If someone offers an "unfairly" low price, don't sell to them. If someone asks an "unfairly" high price, don't buy from them. It a that simple. Prices are only "wrong" when transactions aren't made. As for trying to convince the other party to change what they are bidding/asking, that's fair game of course. And if you use speculation or made up "info" in an attempt to do so, you will lose credibility and come off as a dumbass. These miners are only "worth" what buyers are willing to pay for them. They are still profitable to mine with for the most part, so you have to assume the seller needs liquidity sooner than expected or they are bearish on mining profitability going forward. Buyers are obviously bullish on mining profitability going forward. Of course economic factors are not the only factors. There may be collectors or hobbyists who are motivated by other factors than profitability.

Commentary TL;DR: free markets are complicated. Don't take it personal and get upset with how they function.

Edit 2: apologies for the rant and hijacking the thread. Back to our regularly scheduled sale then.

Man .. never thought holding an auction would be such a hot topic.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Digitalmocking on June 06, 2015, 09:14:08 PM
Sorry about hijacking your thread, I'm honestly interested in buying the miners, but for some reason the market for used miners is frankly outrageous.  For some reason people seem to think these should sell for what they were originally priced at new or in some cases even more (ebay.com).

I've got more power being delivered next week to my small hosting space, when that's delivered, I'll make an offer, but I'm thinking in the ~300 per range, if that's not something the seller would be interested in at all, I understand, but I think paying more than that for used gear when next gen is around the corner is crazy.

....Around the corner...... Really? You mean possibly at the end of the year!?  :D

On here people KNOW the prices and market, so no need to low ball or mis-lead with prices you could never fill yourself. I understand buying low, sell high, but when you try to back your comments with fake info, it just makes you look......like an ahole.  ;)

If someone doesn't like the prices, MOVE ON. http://www.ctguntalk.com/smf/Smileys/solosmileys/eyejack.gif

I think its a fair point that S5s can be had for around 375 shipped, new, from the manufacturer.

Edit: this isn't the thread I thought it was where someone was asking 375 + shipping for used S5s.

Commentary: I don't see why everyone gets upset on these boards when prices are negotiated. It's just business. If someone offers an "unfairly" low price, don't sell to them. If someone asks an "unfairly" high price, don't buy from them. It a that simple. Prices are only "wrong" when transactions aren't made. As for trying to convince the other party to change what they are bidding/asking, that's fair game of course. And if you use speculation or made up "info" in an attempt to do so, you will lose credibility and come off as a dumbass. These miners are only "worth" what buyers are willing to pay for them. They are still profitable to mine with for the most part, so you have to assume the seller needs liquidity sooner than expected or they are bearish on mining profitability going forward. Buyers are obviously bullish on mining profitability going forward. Of course economic factors are not the only factors. There may be collectors or hobbyists who are motivated by other factors than profitability.

Commentary TL;DR: free markets are complicated. Don't take it personal and get upset with how they function.

Edit 2: apologies for the rant and hijacking the thread. Back to our regularly scheduled sale then.

Man .. never thought holding an auction would be such a hot topic.

Sorry dude, I apologize for the hijack :p


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 06, 2015, 09:23:48 PM
Exactly, thus people that aren't interested in buying said product should Butt out and move on, instead of flapping their insulting BS to the seller. ::)

Back to the OP.

What's your Hosting /KWH pricing like? Please PM me with info and all fees, charges, etc.. etc... Thanks


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 07, 2015, 03:52:00 AM
Exactly, thus people that aren't interested in buying said product should Butt out and move on, instead of flapping their insulting BS to the seller. ::)

Back to the OP.

What's your Hosting /KWH pricing like? Please PM me with info and all fees, charges, etc.. etc... Thanks

I've given up on posting pricing given the competitive nature of hosting mining gear. My rates are whatever the best rates are offered by competitive hosting providers. That way you always know your getting the best deal as you could anywhere else. Now I do have expenses and every now and then there is a deal I just can't compete with. In those cases you are welcome to pay to ship them to the hosting provider of your choice. I usually don't charge much for pack up and ship out. In some situations like this sale the seller is willing to pay me to ship them out so the buyer pays nothing but the shipping charges.

So ultimately .. I've chosen to peg my pricing to others instead of publishing a fixed schedule that is endlessly scrutinized by people who are lucky enough to have favorable electric rates or free power entirely. I just figure these people don't understand that people in Europe, Australia, California, etc, etc have no choice but to pay rates that often exceed hosting providers fee's by a great margin. For these people most hosting deals are a bargain.

I honestly like the competition, well as long as I can compete ;) It's opening up opportunities for home miners to realize some of the benefits that larger operations usually were only privileged to. Coming from a data center background I can certainly tell you these $75/kW-month +/- deals are just impossible in a traditional data centers. Hopefully all this competition may even bring the rates of traditional providers down.



Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 07, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
I am kind of lost on your post. Unless you give us a price how do you expect anyone to host with you?
If you want to keep it secret, fine but you haven't pmed me with the info either.
Prices in the USA range from $75 up per kWh.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 07, 2015, 08:37:08 PM
I am kind of lost on your post. Unless you give us a price how do you expect anyone to host with you?
If you want to keep it secret, fine but you haven't pmed me with the info either.
Prices in the USA range from $75 up per kWh.

I was just saying that I will match any other hosting providers rate plans. Even if I post rates people will always try to negotiate them by comparing to another provider. So I just simply decided that any rate plan with any provider I need to compete with so I will offer the same deal they do.

I might be making this harder to understand than it is .. if so .. my apologies.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 08, 2015, 05:44:56 AM

UDPATE: AUCTION ENDS 06/08/2015 @ 11:59:59 PM PDT


Just a reminder auction ends tomorrow evening!


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: sunbreak on June 09, 2015, 04:28:47 AM
Only 2.5 hours left!


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 09, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
Question.

How do we know this person is legit? Co is legit? There is no company presence, website, even a registered email to his domain??
There is no info on 'Jeffcolo' in Oregon, nothing on Google.
He is a Jr Member. How do I know this isn't another one of the many scams off this damn forum??

No offense to Sunbreak, but how do I get comfortable sending you $1500+ monthly hosting fees??


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Cheeseater on June 09, 2015, 06:51:59 PM
Sunbreak is hosting about 80 Th and has been for the past nearly 6 months. I just purchased 15 Sp20's from one of his customers without issue. I've purchased an Sp30 from one of his customers without issue. He rebuilt six S2's that arrived to him nearly destroyed. He has access to all my mining accounts and all my equipment hosted at other locations. Do I trust him? Obviously... Furthermore Sidehack has vouched for him and it was Sidehack that refered me to him.
Long story short if you have cold feet I'll take the miners if you're not comfortable

Edit: Why would you bid in the first place if you were worried about his credibility ???


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: thedreamer on June 09, 2015, 10:36:22 PM
Sunbreak is hosting about 80 Th and has been for the past nearly 6 months. I just purchased 15 Sp20's from one of his customers without issue. I've purchased an Sp30 from one of his customers without issue. He rebuilt six S2's that arrived to him nearly destroyed. He has access to all my mining accounts and all my equipment hosted at other locations. Do I trust him? Obviously... Furthermore Sidehack has vouched for him and it was Sidehack that refered me to him.
Long story short if you have cold feet I'll take the miners if you're not comfortable

Edit: Why would you bid in the first place if you were worried about his credibility ???

Because I am interested but when asked to send blindly that much money I'd like to have more to go on than 2 accounts on a non moderated scammy site like this forum.  ::)

I have since spoken to him and verified things so its all set anyways.


Title: Re: [WTS] 15 x SP20 miners hosted with JeffColo with free rental PSU's!
Post by: Cheeseater on June 10, 2015, 02:06:53 AM
Glad you worked it out. I know you won't be disappointed.