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guys, im still here. im sorry for disappearing without notice. i know nobody here will believe anything i have to say so im not gonna try to explain in details. just know that im having hard times and im truly sorry for the way this went down. i kinda gave the coins to somebody hoping to double up but things didnt go as planned. i got burned. i lost the coins. lost the equipment. i accidentally dug myself in to a hole trying to make more money and i wasnt sure how to respond. ive been debating myself on what i should do but i didnt know what to say. i know you guys dont like me but i hope you can believe me when i say i dont want to be like this. i dont want problems with people for any reasons. i dont wanna be like these guys who got me. i wanna be a good person and do good business but fucking greed is in me and i dont know how to control it yet. i know im responsible regardless of what happened so whoever bought from me can PM me with the details of your purchase and i will make arrangements to refund you guys. it will take me some time to pay everybody back but i will start refunding tonight and i promise everybody will get their coins back. again, i am genuinely sorry for the way i handled this. this is not how i like to do things. i wasnt scamming i just got caught up doing risky business with the wrong people and it fucking blew up in my face.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102224.msg1131992#msg1131992

LOL - i know my attitude sucks. i know my mouth is terrible. im bipolar. im normally cool but when things happen sometimes i become a different person. im sorry.

Bitcoin is potentially the greatest tool in the history of trade and exchange. It will survive amoral, sociopathic dipshits like you.

I know "bipolar" people that use the bipolar excuse a method of absolving themselves of blame. Your inability to feel shame and remorse is shown by the fact that you showed your face back here. My dog exhibits more remorse than you do. My dog is also smarter than you.

In reviewing your posting history, you appear to be on the losing end of evolution. I'd suggest that you castrate yourself to save the world the danger of you being able to reproduce.

LOL

You can start with me. You know the amount and where to send the bitcoins back. I'm waiting but not holding my breath.

Welcome back, now you should get out the mop bucket and start cleaning.

im trying. i know you guys think im and asshole and to honest sometimes i am. but this is not what i wanted to happen. i just made bad decisions and trusted the wrong people.

You are not in any way honest.  You are a liar and a thief.  You stole from many people here. 

Lets start by paying people back. I've sent you the information through PM. So let me get this straight, I'm not going to get the items I purchased from you?

the coins are gone and so are the goods. im gonna have to figure out what i owe and come up with a plan.

All you did is move the coins.  

http://blockchain.info/address/16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n

Some of them were there just a few hours ago. 

That didn't answer my question. Am I going to receive the products that I paid for? You don't need bitcoins to answer that.

you will not receive the goods you ordered.

Since he's a scammer, he might be lying.

lets NOT throw around useless comments. you know that shit isnt gonna show up. if your not gonna help the situation please dont say anything. thank you.

I bought from you a single, upgrade, sc single preorder, and 5 jalapenos preorders. How can you lose preorders?

You don't have any room to tell people how they call you a thief, a liar and a scam artist.

Hearing your "plan" would be entertaining. I like dissecting the thoughts of narcissists. It helps me to recognize them more quickly in future dealings with those that share your personality disorder.

I'm done.  So what's the real deal, BTC guy?



isn't this yours?

http://blockchain.info/address/1B6suMrq6ddBpCNvpwFvPSVjaCxtBBn3PQ

and this one?

http://blockchain.info/address/14bbPraad7SZF5z5Udxywc3DG4ydVKy6PQ


Does he know yet?
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look guys im trying to keep my cool and do the right thing but if you piss me off you risk me disappearing again.

That would be a great loss to this community.

Where's your "plan"? Run it through a spellchecker first and have your mom check your grammar.

fuck you

I assumed that was your plan. It's not original but you did spell it correctly.

What's that link referencing?

most of you guys didnt even buy from me. dont bother me. i dont need no more fucking shit from anybody.

Then leave and stay away.

http://blockchain.info/tx/3288f2ea89f420f5af3e49acb7c3a243117cee6288193ce2d1723ab74d04bef2

just 415btc he received from Przemo a few weeks ago. I was wondering if Prezmo knows yet.

you guys are fools. im not moving around any coins. if that was my address i would be stupid enough to tell you ya thats my address with 415 coins in it, what are you gonna do? you guys have nothing on me on you know it. trying to pressure me or scare me in to submission wont with with me. your only hope of getting those coins back is working it out with me. so quit digging in my ass and making this harder than it needs to be.

PM everyone you stole from and pay them back. You're just polluting the open board with your presence otherwise.

im working on it. you can shut the fuck up now.

Have you been in jail more than once?

yes....oh that was not directed at me...nevermind... ;D

let the record show, i was just joking about jail... 8)

I figure the only reason you are doing "the right thing" is because your address was revealed on this forum.

You probably would have disappeared for good if that didn't happen. We all feel sorry for the lying, cheating, scumbag asshole that you are. You and people like you will be weeded out of this forum sooner or later. I'm hoping sooner.

you dont got my address yet asshole.

No return address on any package you sent ?

nobody here has anything on me. you guys are just fishing and playing scare tactics. even if you did have me by the balls that wont get any coins returned.

LOL. "Fucking greed is in me and I don't know how to control it yet."

The detective who investigated you last time will be glad to hear that.

no detectives or law enforcement has contacted me.

that wont get nobody their coins back.

You just don't know what Alexej can do with bats. He's an artist. We like to call him Bat Man.

You got all my details about transaction, watching and waiting how and when you will start to pay back. At first post you writen that it will start to be tonight, so lets see, dont piss guy off until he returns goods. He must have a good plan to pay us all back

FYI: Law enforment is slow as fuck..... Takes time to build a case against an angry douch bag.....


Did all your Crack run out? Maybe Meth? I feel bad for the people you fucked over......

I guess he don't understand a good case to build can take awhile!

You have just under an hour left. You need to return those coins quick.

It appears that you have failed to return the coins.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and my kindness will extend until Midday Chicago Time tomorrow, at the point I will act on everything I previously promised unless I see some coins returning to people's wallets.

This is your last chance, as if I don't see the coins returning by tomorrow, I doubt they ever will, so I will have no reason to not report it then.

Don't you people ever get tired of just losing all your coins to theft and scams?  

I mean, damn, I must have seen the whole "I'm not paying you back because you were mean to me.   >:(" line at least a dozen times here.  Real markets don't work that way.  You pay back what you owe, and you expect that of the people you lend to.  You really think you can build a society off of this?

i want to handle this thats why i came back around. but if you guys start threaten me it makes me not want to do anything for you. i know you guys are mad for good reason but your gonna have to keep your cool if you want a refund from me.

That's fine by me. I've adjusted my attitude and would like to have an estimated date of refund. What other information do you need from me?

i still dont know how im gonna handle this or when you will be paid back in full. i know nobody wants to drag this out and accept partial payments but i dont see any other way.

I agree

Was considering into investing into this bitcoin currency for a few reasons, now that I know about and even considering buying the mining equipment, maybe a couple, as PSU will draw a faction of what a GPU's will draw, keeping overall cost down. The only thing is the only machine worth buying cost 15k, but then you have to wait three months for it to be ship. After reading about all these scams, not sure if I even want to take that risk and lose the money if the guy at the end decides to collect millions and then just burn everyone. Their is reasons I know why they won't centralize it I won't get into, but their has to be a better way to do this, otherwise the scams are just going to keep happening, seem like it out of control on here. What about a feedback system next to names and people can at least see transactions done and for amounts, usually give you a good sign if theirs going to be potential issues, beside just the amount of posts. And for the big investors and collectors, they have to be verifed, so they don't build up trust and collect millions and run, as you have some legal recourse you can take. This will cut down on alot of scams and make it more secure and keeps otherwise honest people, honest. 

BTC Guy the forum has ever right to be pissed off at you. Not to mention you are attacking every user that shoots you down. If you are really going to try and pay people back, start working more on thinking about how you plan on doing so. Repeating that you could just walk away or that you don't have a plan solves nothing. Get to it man, you got some people ready to spill your blood.

My two cents...

i understand. all im saying is dont fuck with me and make this harder for me. i asked nice at first. i said please and thank you. people kept digging in me. repeating people are gonna come after with bats and spill my blood wont help either. i dont respond well to threats.

Unfortunately, people can get ugly when money's involved. Keeping them at bay is the hard part. Oh patience - where have you gone?

What do you respond to?  Honest transactions? Nope. ;)

Seriously the only thing that will make your creditors (I am not not one of them) calm down is action.  Pay them.  Give them a specific plan dates and amounts of when & how you will pay them.  Anything else "I promise you will get paid" is just worthless.   If someone lied to YOU would you trust them when they say "I promise I will pay you"?  Honestly? 

Either
a) make a payment
or
b) give a detailed exact plan on when the next payment will be. 

nothing else is going to get anyone to "calm down".  You stole from them.  Would you be calm?

how do i unsubscribe?

i have plenty of honest transactions but nobody wants to give me any credit. and i didnt steal anything. theft is when you take something that doesnt belong to you without permission. thats not what happened. we discussed a deal to exchange funds for goods. i was gonna deliver but i did some bad deals and wasnt able to stick to the plan.

you are correct. please lock this thread... ???

Just start to pay everyone for atleast some amount, 5, 10 coins to everyone already would be atleast some efort.

PM me your address again i will see what i can do to get you some coins tonight. i might also be able to ship the 5850's for the guy who bought them. if i still have some laying around i will ship them.

just pm'd you my adress, i can insert it here too: 192iDtR8zJwVRj57SRzvLzbbjqdwy4veAf

The BTC guy has just sent me 2.67 BTC. Told him to send to another involved people. Transaction is here: http://blockchain.info/address/192iDtR8zJwVRj57SRzvLzbbjqdwy4veAf

Its not much, but atleast he is starting to do something. I hope he will not stop sending and will inform us of the shedule.

if you bought from me PM your address and i will make sure everybody gets something to show im serious about taking care of this.

My address is here for everyone to watch as well.

19ELTFG4c4Qy21Qrcb6A4LYMeEKvZUN8p

You really should setup a new wallet addy for this transaction.

jmho.


[Edit: removed original address at request of aznjack31, since he edited his post]

noted and changed.

14wv8dsBdqdbU8b7yNfdSZLbie1euyQoH1

i can understand you wanting a single, but for the life of me i cant understand why you wouldnt just order the rest from BFL?  im having a hard time feeling srry for anyone here who doesnt do their homework.  if your going to spend/invest a bunch of money, you better know the persons name, his address, phone numbers and even their parents, any and everything you can find out!  oh ya, and use escrow! 

....i still find it funny that people were scammed by a guy named Pirate!!!!!

He had second day preorders. That means I would have gotten one of the first shipments. If I ordered from bfl I'd be way back on the shipping list and therefore would have gotten less money back from the increased difficulty. I got the his name, address, and phone number from him during the transaction. So I did my homework.

I find it funny that you base your decision making off of a name.

and you make your decisions based on "Too good to be true?"  With a name, you have legal ways of getting your money back.  and i would think the people that put faith(money) in bfl, back when they first announced the rig boxes, will be the ones who get first order.  But still, spending that kind of money, should have used escrow or even paypal, at least with paypal you could reverse the charges.  But i am satisfied to know that maybe you have learned something from this.

btw...ive pre-ordered 2 jal myself and ill be ordering more too, and i really dont care when they come....cause i know ill get something

Created special walet for btc guy to send coins: 1Ly6ugkbDkcRtrDMfACxRwV2LDyve7MVuV
He sent me already 2.67 BTC, total was 185.47, so 182.8 BTC to go.

Thats me Ernest i was digging bitcoins with Przemo we sent him 415 btc from his account for the hardware that never came. and we are just crushed, so many months of hard work seems to vanish :(((((( . the way i see it,  i wait 2 weeks more and than my family which lives in US goes to FBI. No writing bad words for this guy will encourage him to send us back the money or coins. If he's honest but stupid and he writes truth that he made bad decisions and he wants to pay us back this will not help, if he's a scammer and wants to cheat us, this wont help either , only law enforcement can help in some way( worst case scenario - guy goes to jail and we dont get our money back because FBI or anybody wont give us our money back) the question is : is it worth for him to go to jail for such amount of money( if they catch him -which i predict they will because its too few money to let him hide effectively)

we just sold our rig which i advertised before on this forum and wanted to buy more compact one and we found this guy :(((( ahhh

That sort of sounds like fucking demanding fucking respect, just like those other scamming assholes at bitcoinica! What is it with you scammy fucks that you think threats and insults will make your mistakes go away? You live in Elmwood Park, do you really think the cops there (and their Chief is an acquaintance of mine BTW) are going to give a damn about some internet scammer getting spoken to sharply? Do you honestly think it is going to make a blip on their radar if some nice boys from Cicero come over and ask about the debt they purchased?

Fuck me? No, asshole, fuck you.

*Looks at sig*

Of course, I don't think theymos wants to integrate a feedback system directly into the forum (I believe that possibility has been discussed and shot down before), but I was thinking about writing up a greasemonkey script that would auto-insert the feedback stats next to/under people's names as they are browsing the forum.

This should be the motto of the whole bitcoin community.

Also, I love the name of this thread. It fits perfect!

Anybody got some update from BTC guy ?

Las message i got from him at 14.september:

i sent anzjack 2.67 coins today. i just got tgjj shipping address for the cards. there isnt gonna be progress made every day. i need to hussle and make money before i can start paying back anything significant.

I did receive the 2.67 but no updates since then

when was that?

September 14, 2012, 04:38:42 AM

This is what he wrote me yesterday:

my attorney is advising me not to make partial payments or refund with coins. i need to build up enough cash and pay everybody back at once with a certified bank check.

LOL! A play straight out of the pirate playbook.  "Attorney" = "stall, while I get to move to a new address"

So, he can afford an attorney at hundreds of dollars per conversation, but he can't afford to pay his obligations or ship the items he has already sold?

Fascinating.

Speaking of Pirate, he could write a book about scamming (something catchy like : "How I scammed the living shit out of gullible idiots") and use the profits to repay his creditors.

Sort of like the OJ book about effectively stopping your ex-wife's affairs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:If_I_Did_It.jpg

Attorney my ass, the guy cant even dress himself properly.... WTF what a douche bag....


He should have told the truth and said, I got hooked on crack, Silkroad keeps taking your bitcoins from me. Sorry guys.....

He answered me this before:


Could Tgjj can confirm that btc_guy shipped him his cards? Aznjack has received some ccoins as i know.

Last message I received from him below:

thats the last ive heard from him

Hahahahaha. Of course he got robbed.  :D

I think his lawyer is www.askjeeves.com

But in that case, at least the attorney is free.

Another excuse for his incessant douche-baggery demolished.

Guys a Junkie, Look at the picture of him... If I looked like that I would never leave my house let alone have my picture taken....


ADVICE: Get some nice cheap clothing at walmart that fits you, Shower and shave on a regular basis....



There we go, now we got rid of the douche bag look......

FTFY

Where's the picture?  I must've missed it.

After reading through all this drama, missing out on the picture is almost too disappointing to bear!

~pyotr

Its on this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106199.0

MY SIDES

+1

Actually, come to think about it, I think BTCGuy was attempting to auction and sell the same video card a few times at one point.

Probably sold them to multiple people.... Not hard to say yes to everyone's offers..... Dumb ass BTCguy,, Shame on you...

My attorney is off on some strange tangent about mescaline...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=LLXXHSchqBbhBQb3t4ukJhGg&v=XL-y4lDDtCY&feature=player_detailpage#t=18s

People who 'invested' in bs&t would be the first to buy that book. Suckers.

Man, you sure are behaving like a giant fucktard..
And it's not even just one fucktard, it's like a fractal of fucktardiness.

Give the guy a break, he's trying to correct his errors.

He's not, he has vanished again.

Sure, but now we won't know if that is because of the fuctard, right?

Considering that what you quoted and commented was over two weeks old and btcguy at least paid some of his debt back in the meantime, we can only assume he fled after you dragged this out into the light again.

Hypothetical question:

Is it better to A:) accept the statement by an established scammer that he is changing his ways when he actually returns less than .05% of the amount he has stolen, and demands that everyone keep silent because his theft is based on mental illness and he might have a relapse into criminality if anyone questions him; or B:) do we keep the pressure on that same scammer, and demand full restitution for everything he has stolen, honoring all promises and sales made and not accept extortion as a communication tool?

Just wondering.

A) People (who presumably were not 'scammed' by him) started attacking him even before he payed back the small sum.
B) Since he has no reason besides his own to start this thread i'm not sure how much 'pressure' you could actually excert via an internet forum. It might even prove to be counterproductive as people here have no way of forcing him to pay.

Except for the two big strong men with the baseball bats who already where looking for him, as was reported earlier.

But that doesn't explain why he's gone again because if the batmen found him he would not put up a comedy on tis forum but either would have payed or not.

The guy is scum, he was clearly a scammer and essentially admitted doing it.

How is the progress with this scammer?

I would bet there is 0 progress..... He's hiding scared or has already been confronted by someone

No progress on my end with BTC guy either.

Not a surprise.... Dude looks like the definition of Douche bag.

No doubt he's either had his teeth knocked out or fingers broken or both....

I doubt any of that happened....

He stole your coins to feed his drug habit... My guess is all the crack or heroin has run out and he's one hurting sad little man...

BTCGuy may be back

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154010.msg1632449

Yes, it is him.

The original  BTC Guy account is back too - he's been trolling everywhere. Figures he want to divert attention to himself from his sockpuppets.

BTC guy is back!!!   

 :D

Paying back yet?

yes sir

will my scammer tag be removed when i pay back everybody?

Of course.

good. not that its matters cause i am well aware i ruined my reputation here. i just want it gone. im tired of being that guy.

if i burned you post here and i will make it right.

littleshop, i offered you a refund if you returned the goods. you refused. you will get nothing from me.

Why would I send goods back to someone who has scammed more people then he can count?

Here is my repayment address.  I have offered a reduced figure if you pay me back in the next 48 hours.

14wv8dsBdqdbU8b7yNfdSZLbie1euyQoH1

i have just took the initiative and PM'd all the people i burned. sit back and get your popcorn folks cause im going to stun all of you when i refund everybody.

Waiting!  Address is posted so everyone can see what you have paid back.

I'm gonna guess more trolling but if you actually repaid the people you scammed that'd be good.

I've received a PM from BTC Guy saying that if I post here I will get refunded.

These are the details of what I sent him. If you are going to return the coins, please send them here - 1BdtwdXquSQLF4hpDVKBDFzZHHZ61VAACd

I'll play. Lets see if he returns the money to me. I'm curious as how much he would start to refund.

Hello.How much do you want for single BFC unit? 800$ ? How about shipping wordwide?Thanks
// $900 with shipping
Will i be able to exchange this sngle to the new one, with +699$ when it will be available? Or it is only on your name? Single is on your hands or just ordered?
//you can buy just the single or the single + the upgrade. if you want the upgrade i would have BFL ship the upgrade to you when they are available. i have my single in my hands.
How much it is extra for upgrade? Will i be able to buy upgrade latter from butterfly labs if i wont buy it from you? What is the order number for the upgrade? Upgrade type is BitForce Single ‘SC’ ? Thanks again.
// $2000 for single + upgrade. order number 2007. if you have your own single you can purchase the upgrade yourself but you will wait longer. i ordered the day they started pre-orders. order numbers are probably past 5000 by now.

Price is good, can i ask why are you selling singe and upgrade? If i buy from you both single and upgrade, what is next step?
1. You are sending me Single or i pay first?
2. When you are sending single to me, i get it, releasing money i guess?
3. When Butterfly labs is delivered upgrade unit to you, you send it to me, and i am sending old single back to you?
4. Which is the right order? Thanks again. Regards
// you pay. i send you single. BFL sends you SC single when they launch.
Hello.I am considering this deal, but would like to now your thougts why are you selling this deal in the first place. What is my guarantee, if i pay you first and then wait. Are you willing to trade japalenos too? How much for them shipped? I am in europe. Thanks again.Best regards.
// im a trader. i buy and sell. i know this stuff is hot so i decided to try and make a buck. if you pay you will get your single. i have plenty of rep for delivering as promised. my rep is below. my best offer for jalapenos is $1000. shipping europe is $40. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66338.0
OK.I am really pleased that you have great reputation, looking forward to make deal with you. What is the order numer for those japalenos ? If i want to buy them, can i pay when you got them on hands? With some first pay already? What payment metod do you prefer?
// jalapenos order number 802. they will probably be sold this weekend. i like coins.
When was the order date, the same, that mini rig? Sorry, but you did not answered my question:
"If i want to buy them, can i pay when you got them on hands? With some first pay already?" I am very sorry, but i dont have so much coins, is it possible that you accept paypal or moneybookers?
// i didnt order a mini rig. jalapenos order 802. SC order 2007. you cant pay when i have them in hands. BFL doesnt ship SC till oct/nov. everything will be sold by then. i only accept coins.
// i have the single in my hands. i can ship that to you this weekend.
// i only accept coins. you can buy coins on MTgox with dwolla. you can also trade paypal for coins in the exchange forum. i cant hold anything for you, sorry bro. ive got a bunch of people PM'ing me every day. i want to sell this stuff and move on to my next investment. i ordered everything 6/9.
OK. I understand. When i get money and buy coins, i will pm you for the details.Best regards.
// if its gonna take you a few days to get your coins together for a big order it might be smart to grab the single now and the rest when your ready.
Hi.Sorry, got some quick question. It looks like i will be able to get those 2000$, it will take time though to purchase those BTC. I am considering, that you could even keep that single unit to yourself. Reason is that in my country it is pretty pist of customs, and it may be troble to pay for shipping to me, that ship single back to BFc and then SC unit back. Can you offer me some discount if i let you have single unit until SC unit ships to you. One case could be that you could even mine by yourself and profit. What do you say, is it possible discount in that case? It would be a lot easier that way for both of us. Consider that. Thanks.Best regards.
// i can mine with it until SC launches. we split the coins 50/50. when SC launches i send you the new SC single.
What if i let you mine it by yourself, but for 2000$ you ad one japaleno unit when it arrives (Will pay shipping separetly if it will nedd to ship independently)? I will need approximetly one week to get those BTC's for you, is that ok? Its just pretty complicated to get that amount of btc's in that short time. I am palning to use bitmarket an local SEPA wire transfer, what can take up to 5 days to money arrive. I heard that dwolla has prety big transaction fees. What service are you using? Although you ar in America, thats a little bit easier.
// i can do that deal, but i cant wait a week for payment. everything will be sold by then. dwolla's fee's are only $0.25.
What services accept dwolla? I know bitmarket support it, but there is only 15 BTC right now available for dwolla. How fast is the payment between dwolla users? I can try to manage faster with those transactions, how long can you wait? I presume i am offering you better deal than any other buyer, because i let you single unit to yourself and if BFC fails to deliver new units in october you can earn money all this time. ThanksBest regards.
// payment between dwolla users is instant. you can also add bank account or credit card to dwolla and transfer funds to MTgox to buy coins.
how long can you wait when i get coins?
// i want everything sold this weekend
And what if i can only get coins by tuesday, wednesday next week? This weekend sounds unreal Sad Do you have buyer for all, or what? Why are you rushing so much? I am ready to make deal with you, can you be a little bit flexible about that? If you could accept real money, maybe i could get things done by this weekend, but only with real money, do you have money in your dwolla account?
// you are not the only person who wants to buy. im not gonna hold it for anybody. its first come first served. i only want coins.
// if you can put down a small deposit i will hold the single for you.
Trying to register with dwolla, but i need american number i guess to verify, can you help me? format must be ###-###-#### About what amount we are talking about?
// they want a social security number. thats a number the USA gives its citizens at birth. you should contact dwolla and ask them how non USA members verify the account.i dont need a big deposit just something to show me your serious about buying. 10 coins will do.
// the exchange forum is in the marketplace. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0
// im leaving work soon. i wont be on computer until late tonight or early tomorrow. good luck getting your coins.    Grin
I'll do my best, looking forward to make deal with you.
// you can buy coins on ebay too
Hi.Got 10BTC's , can send them to you if you reserve that deal for me.
// cool, where you get the coins from?  16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n
Got them here in forum, via paypal. How long you can reserve single and one japaleno for me if i send you 10 BTC ? How much BTC do you need total?
// i can hold this stuff for a few days. if you havent paid by next weekend i might refund you. $2000 for single + upgrade. one jalapeno for $250. shipping is $40.
Ok, will send you 10 BTC shortly.I thought we agreed, that if you keep singel to yourself and mine with it all the time until new one delivers you are offering eather discount, or for those 2000$ add one japaleno to order. So what would it be?
// if you want me to hang on to the single until SC launches i can do $2000 even with the jalapeno and shipping.
// when do you think you can pay the rest?
I could get money eather tomorrow some part, another part monday. After that I will buy coins, just have to carefull, there is sometimes problems with banks in my country, cant make too big deals.
// thats cool i have no problems taking smaller payments. once you make another payment or two i will start telling people it has been sold.
Ok, than thats what i do.So how many BTC is needed total? Will write you when next payment will be.
// 194 - 10 = 184
// im still here. im not in front of my computer all day. send coins when ready.
maurice rivera
2818 n Kolmar
chicago IL 60641
773 510 2752
xxx847@gmail.com
Hope you got the coins. Can you check in your thread as promised that you have sold single+upgrade+japaleno?
// you only sent me 22 coins. i'll update the thread when you paid in full.
Hello.Will have the most of the coins by today, i hope. I hope you understand that BTC are growing in value, so those first 22 i bought for 10,5 $, now the price is 12 and growing. So basicaly i have spent on bitcoins 231 $ (dont counting convertation and transaction fees). So as i understand i need to deliver to you coins with value 2000-231=1769 $ in BTC, which by todays price is ~ 147 BTC. Offcorse if i will get cheaper, i will caunt $ i have spent not those BTC count. I hope you understand. feel free to ask questions.Best regards.
// you gave me $230. the average right now is $11.15. you got 159 coins to go.
Cheapest i can get is the last mtgox price, if you now cheeper, please let me know. Cant use mtgox either, too long period of verification for any payment metod.
// you are making this a hard sale. i dont go by last price or high price. i go by average. its pain in ass to negotiate rate when the last price goes up and down so much. you need to make larger payments. im not gonna change rate every few hours. we will go by average price when your ready to make payment.
// dam sorry to hear that. i am still holding this equipment for you. hopefully we get this paid in full by friday.
Thanks.Will try to do everything to get you those coins as soon as possible.By the way, i saw that there is some complains about you too in forum, as far as i understood there were misleading or something? That is not our case i hope? Why do you need so fast those coins? And can you please update your thread with our deal happening? It would make me feel a little bit safier. Thank you very much.
// that guy got his watches. he said so himself. he claimed they were fake and worthless so he should get to keep them and get a refund. i offered refund but he didnt want to return the watches. its no secret if you want a refund you return the goods. my sales history is below. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66338.0
Hello. sent you 2 bitcoins which i bought yesterday, they cost more, but if you want, that would be 11.15 per coin as yesterdays weighted average.So that means, that i have sent you total ~ 230 + (2x11.15)= 252.30 $ So i need to provide you with 1747,7 $ equal in BTC.
// you need to make larger payments. dont send me 2 coins at $10.50, 8 coins at $10.30, 6 coins at $11.25, 12 coins at $11.60. its a pain in the ass and its too hard to keep track of what you paid at all these different rates. from now on send at least 20 coins at a time.
Hello.Good news.Have resolved issues with money transfer, just waiting when it completes. So basily will have BTC today and tomorrow in my hands. Are you ready to compleate the deal? Thanks for patiance.Best regards
// you mean no more 2 coins here 10 coins there? you can pay in full? that would be awesome.
Would pay teh most today, the rest tomorrow, just be patient, will pay all, just need to wait a little bit  Wink
// OK that sounds like a plan.
Small update.Waiting for many arrive in mtgox, will have BTC today, tomorrow hopefully.
// cool, how did you get the coins?
Just bought them in another place similar to mtgox, but smaller.Can you please answer to all my questions and send some information i asked?I may seem paranoic, but i need to be shor.
// what else do you want?
I would be happy, if you could update your thread with details about our deal.Also curently have 84 BTC for todays average 10.87 by mtgox. Can i send you these 84, or you will be waiting for all?
// i dont want to tell everybody its sold when you have not paid in full. when the deal is done i will announce to the forum that everything has been sold. you can send what you have now or when you have it all together.
Very good news.I got all BTC on my hands, can send them to you any time.So i send you erlier total 24 BTC with value 250 $. So i need to send you 2000-250=1750$ =====> 1750/10.85 = 161.29 BTC. Will send them shortly, as soon as i get confirmations.
// understood
Just sent you 161.47 BTC by mtgox actual avrage 10.837Can i ask you now to update your topic with full our deal details? I am buying Single + upgrade + japaleno, leaving single to you until new part is shippable to me.Can you please send some approval from Butterfly labs about your order with single "SC". Thanks.Best regards.
// i have not received your last payment. as soon as it shows up i will update the thread and get everything ready.
It is not confirmed yet, but you must see that it is coming, right?
// i see no payment in my wallet. i will let you know when it has been confirmed.
29.08.2012,  22:20:27    -161.47 BTC    Out    Yes Here is confirmation print, please confirm you got the coins, i have sent first 24 BTC to that wavet so that is yours.
// i see your payment
This is your walet: 16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n I can see that there is 1 confirmation now.
Transaction is completed, please confirm.
ok, so you just have to update your thread, and please provide me with some deal approval between you and BFL. I am glad to make busines with you, hope you will be honest and good seller.
From my side i have provided all you needed, so can you please be more qouicker to answer and in more details? So long no new posts in thread about our deal. JUst find some time to do that and i will not bother you so much. I have payed money, i want to see atleast some result.
hi. I can see you were online. Is it so hard to confirm our deal once and for all? I believe you are a good trader, but want to make shore that everything is ok.
// im here. i work and go to school monday-friday. im not always online and able to respond right away.
ok. Waiting
// hey,im here. im very sorry for how sloppy this deal was. i plan to return your coins. please PM me with all the details of our deal and i will make it right.


and so it continued until he get scammer tag.

These were transactions i made to BTC guy:

a57e15448fc4a0e6dc80143f4265f38001e161b7bf22ed96edd8970d5c26439b
 2012-08-29 20:20:41
1P1GRDXuNvqbh7Fk97mirsVHfFG83TK3JW
1PAoFAtG9HRPj7PTiGgi8HSxhNJXvEoSV1
16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n 161.47 BTC

 84280e0ad063043d65ea3a2ceacc345ae02ce83a479d90d6f29fb5768700fbbb
1FAVL889hgfjuu6KMq81pqYvAjZD3d5ZMi
1Dw14GJ16quRAJu6Y3UzwEhtJiPKXrD79j
16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n 2 BTC

 1f612a65106b5d204dc6adf6c16f8484be5f2d47f72995464aa23ac310fe3569 2012-08-26 19:15:34
1LwHN6q85tj7GFxC17xproX7q32C32evsv
196eU7Djf4jHv6paEmqkFvVwTJmZfVgHP2
1PLiFL7JtRS5JmbEz83Tq1XTxCekQaG7Hj
16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n 12 BTC

9e00f1cce61fc5d18fcb24987b40cd4779cdb1c879478ce12d072199b832e69b 2012-08-25 08:46:05
192iDtR8zJwVRj57SRzvLzbbjqdwy4veAf
1QHRXSEf9VBaAaoq2Rzz9xpm6DgP7LfPnz
16uxgGsk49q3yRry5DZ9x1ZK6E6Tfsu27n 10 BTC

So totaly its 195.47 BTC, he refunded me small amout back in sptember, it was 2.67 BTC. Our deal was on 2000$ i payed him 195.47 BTC - 2.67 BTC he returned, so it makes 192.8 BTC or ~ 1970$
My adress to make payments is: 19nwx71ekZVZWeTcp7NhUcUJQ95xosUjxe
I will be happy to get back my coins.

OK - lets begin.

TGJJ - i have two 5850 if still interested. i can send them plus coins or just straight coins.

monstrs - i have singles and upgrades to SC singles if you want them.

aznjack31 - i need more information about our deal.

I have given my address already.  Waiting.

TGJJ - i also have a gigabyte 7970 ghz edition that is not working but is under warranty and has been approved for RMA. you can also have that if interested.

I'd sell that glass table if I were you.

its not mine. its retropcdos table.

Guys, just accept BTC payments which he wont offer cause he isn't actually planning on refunding you - just trolling.

i dont expect anybody to believe me and to be honest i dont care if anybody believes me. i know what im going to do and i have nothing to prove to you.

I'll delete my posts and give you a medal (made in MS paint) if you make it right for everyone :D

i dont want a medal a thank you a good job well done or anything. im doing it because i want to. i cant fix all the bad things ive done but i can do this.

What information do you need? You owe me $4,600 worth of btc.

I would prefer if you pay back in BTC equal 1970$
God knows how long would i wait for single you would send to me, i need to pay taxes for that too. after what i would husle to send it back to BFL and get the new single, they could even not send it to me, as i would have another adress and so. I have no clearance if they will deliver at all.
If you have not enything more, than you can send me single, i could accept 7970GHZ edition too as part of the refund, ofcorse if its fully working. But i would prefer to get coins, its easier to you too, as if you got back in september from all of us the coins, you can pay us back very easy, as the coin is 8 times valuable than back in september.
Another option is, that you can mine with single, what you got now and send me coins, keeping just what you need for electricity, when time comes, you send single to bfl, get the new one, and send it to me.
So there is a few, whats your choise?

aznjack31, i need our chat log like monstrs posted so i can confirm the amount i owe you.

monstrs, if you want singles i will ship them immediately. if you want coins i can do that too. it does not matter to me.

also, just to confirm, i will be paying you guys back at todays BTC rate. is this acceptable?

I would prefer coins.
You can send them to adress: 19nwx71ekZVZWeTcp7NhUcUJQ95xosUjxe

So 1970$ by todays mtgox average (80.21836) is: 24.55 BTC

Waiting for payment

I'd rather just get the coins please.

coins is NP. when me and matthew work out a deal i will start paying back.

When could that be? What sort of deal?
Anyway, waiting for BTC.

matthew was a staff member here on bitcointalk. he made a bunch of bets with people. including me. we had a 200 coin bet. he lost the bet. i am trying to negotiate a mutual agreeable resolution with him. but so far he refuses to negotiate with me. i will not be settling any of my debts until he begins to resolve his bet with me.

All you need is in this thread right here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106095.0

refund amount confirmed.

keep me posted on when I will be seeing my sweet coins back.

Why do you need the deal between you and Matthew to work out before you start paying back?  You have 1600 BTC - 25 BTC is a drop in the bucket.  Refund the guys you owe and stop being a douchebag about it!

I you really have such amount of coins, why dont you pay us back and make your reputation a little bit cleaner? 25 BTC is really small amount compared to 1600. Start with good example by paying us back and Matthew will follow paying you.

im stubborn. i want it my way.

Here is the address you should refund to.

1X1mKFxN924LL1reKJYzs7ikP3G2s9paG

Thanks and I look forward to seeing the coins back.

So, what's happening about this?

BTC Guy is trying to get another 200 btc before he disappears. 

Exactly. 

Was the bet that he would pay people back?

So nothing again. Nice btc_guy

I don't know why I let my hopes get up, just to have them crushed.

BTC guy did not give up, he is back :)
Wrote me a letter:

i am still here. this is not going to be easy for anybody. have faith and be patient. its going to be a long road but we will win this. i would have paid you back by now but when i saw matthew who was a scamming staff member come back and try to man up i wanted to collect the 250 coins he owed me or at least a piece of it. when he refused to work with me i got pissed and walked away again. help me help you. PM theymos and matthew and help me work out a deal with matthew. if he takes care of me i will take care of you. promise.

Lol right. As long as somebody else pays you he's okay with it, basically? (For a cut of the loot?)

it would be nice to break even or end up with more than i owe. that doesnt mean i wasnt serious about paying back. im just taking advantage of the situation.

Wow awkward, this may well be the first brutally honest comment of a scammer I've seen.

I don't see why Matthew would want to pay you when you have scammed us, maybe if you started paying us back he would be more inclined to work with you.

Let this be known that I have extended this offer to BTC guy:


And got rejected stating various reasons from 'wanting to feel he has won' and 'ITS A POWER TRIP.'
Please note that my offer is always valid here.

Thanks everyone.

im not asking matthew to pay me. i never have. im just asking him to work out a deal with me. he refuses. he doesnt have to give me any coins. all he has to do is talk to me.

Please quit responding to this guy. He's a sociopath that gets his dick hard whenever he has control over something, because he's a loser that can't do anything in the real world. You're never going to see your coins.

He should consider a career in politics.