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no im pretty sure youre just mad, PD has been around a long ass time and Stunna is as trustable as the definition of the word gets. If you have a problem take it up with him.

Then why is a 10 loss streak on 2x right off the bat "just unlucky"? You flip a coin in real life 100 times I bet you won't see more than 3-4, maybe 5 losses in a row.

It's crazy how people think PD is trusted.....such dogmatism.

Ouch. Tough luck, dude. That's gambling, there's always a possibility that you will lose all.

i had a feeling that PD is somewhat manipulating rolls so that is why i stopped gambling on their site and moved to other sites which i think more fair. i quite often lose at PD

What about these:

http://gyazo.com/997d16ecab549693827b9edb3de148e7
http://gyazo.com/155def4a47a2c5d4f442db88d10b3bd8
http://gyazo.com/831d5de237f675265ab88cdf15178179
http://gyazo.com/f75012a0d83d461406b37cec1672c086
http://gyazo.com/ac5eace094d7141e20168cff2f400c9c
http://gyazo.com/38ed4310052a63f381f2d64844c0c872
http://gyazo.com/8b7e94f3cace586a4b9cd1d93bd1b766

care to show proof you computer got bricked? also im about 100% sure Stunna blocks deposits from US deposits to cover the site's ass as bitcoin gambling is a legal gray area in the US. besides that, im thinking this is an account OP made just to bad talk PD

i seriously think that "bricked" claim is completely retarded, how in hell does visiting a website brick your pc...

thats bad luck but it doesnt prove any scam is going on. ive seen 20x red streaks on 49.5% chance. it happens. id say you just need a cool off period, if you feel the site is a scam dont visit again. you may think differently after cooling off though. otherwise theres other sites to try out. i wish you the best

lol. I just love to see threads about Candy loosing large amounts of money on PD and then claiming scam. The logic you use to claim scam is ridiculous to the point of it being comical.

You seriously have a gambling problem bro, you really should stay away from PD and other bitcoin casinos. I wouldn't doubt that your losses were what drove you to try to extort whoever it was in currency exchange.

No it's not me I actually type English xD

LOL! Classic Quickseller! Ahh, I missed you while I was off this shitty forum!!! How's it going buddy?

I win alot too on other sites, so I don't mind losing a bit on PD. But...you see those screenshots? If you think PD is trusted, however much, whether you believe it's trusted alot or a little, you must be pretty damn stupid

this point needs to be made more; gambling addicts play off wins like it should be happening, and then suddenly when they lose its all a sham, its all rigged and theyre suddenly the victims. addicts are also dependant on gambler's fallacy; "omg 20 losses in a row is literally impossible.

no trust me it is very possible.

Naw, I lose alot and I'm ok with it. But PD is ridiculous.

I'm telling you guys, mark my word. The launch of PD3 was the launch of the biggest scams BTC has ever seen. PD2 was as fair as flipping a coin. There's a reason why Stunna took 9 months to make PD3....

Why don't you trying to verify your rolls, even retroactively? After that you can claim that PD is a scam if something doesn't check out.

While it is possible that you win some on other sites, I doubt it is so much that it covers the losses that you have had on PD from all the times you have claimed they are a scam. Over the long run you are going to lose due to the house edge.

So you're telling me that it goes like

"Click, click, click"

"Yup sir, your rolls are 100% confirmed to be fair!"

Because I would believe some numbers in front of my screen. There's something behind it.

You can verify the rolls in an automated fashion.

If you don't understand how verifying the rolls proves that PD is fair then I might suggest reading up on how provably fairness works.

Candy you've been saying that every dice site is a scam when you lose lol.

Verify the roll..

Out of all the dice sites i used, only to pd i have doubt about fairness

I think all gambling is meant to be a scam or there wouldn't be casinos.  Gambling organizations make money based on people losing.  Well, with the exception of tournaments like poker and such.  But even then, someone is losing.

The best option in gambling is to know what you are comfortable losing and then do your best to not lose it.  But the odds are always in favor of the house.  You can't beat it.

PD Isn't a scam m8. Gambling is just that. 50% still has a chance to lose, EVEN CONSECUTIVELY. as long as there is a positive percentage
for anything, anything can happen.

even if you play in different dice sites the outcome will just be the same.. you're going to lose in the long run  ::)

Thats true but there is really something in pd. I can notice it myself coz i experienced it too many times not only once

I was at 70% once and lost 17x (0.001 mBTC) = 0.017
I know it's not a big amount but that's a very long losing streak.

There is nothing on it except a provably fair mechanism. Actually you and candy are falling into Gambler's Fallacy for believing there is something wrong in PrimeDice because it happen more than it should bewhich you can read it HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy).
There is a chance for that massive loss streak to happen and with a site like PrimeDice where alot of rolls occur everyday then it is pretty normal it happen alot more often , you may want to use this to know the chance for it to happen http://dicesites.com/tools

i know about it but i dont why i have a bad feeling about the rolls in PD. when i lose on other dice sites hitting 10+ red streak then bust i am not upset, i know it is normal but when it is on PD i always thought it was happening to me again and again

Why don't you verify the rolls?
If you find the hash not matching or incorrect seed/nonce, you get conclusive proof that it is a scam.
If you don't, you get conclusive proof that you are unlucky.

Thats mean you are being delusional about it and it happen to most people actually that they think that they are lucky in an X site and not lucky in the Y site despite both site are provably fair and have the same house edge .
That would explain why apart from thousand of people rolling in PrimeDice there will be always someone that show up to complain about his/her unbelievable loss streak which is quite normal because there is a chance for it to happen

This is why i dont like dice games,no body can prove if they are maybe rigging,but still there is provobly fair,that says its fair,but i dont belive in that anymore,but stunna is trusted like everybody says,but im talking now overall on all dice sites this is just crazy when you see those crazy reds

Anybody can prove it, which is why a simple provably fair verifier exist for someone that is not accustomed to code and stuff. There is a provably fair verifier on site and there is alot third party verifier to use. It is just a matter of being delusional actually, people who lost at a dice sites wont even believe that the site is fair despite that he verified the roll himself because he lost there but if he won there than he wont even care if the site is fair or not

P.S : this is a good third party verifier which you can use actually dicesites.com

so what you suggest for gambling where things like that dont happen?
i think that kind of stories in gambling happening everywhere almost about every site some players are happy and some are unhappy, the one and only thing is luck for gambling at any casino.

its funny how people just come and say that one of the best gambling sites on forum is rigged just because they had an unlucky row of looses

PD is not rigged.  As has been shown many times (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=747589.msg8998421#msg8998421) it is easy to show that PD is cheating if they actually are.  They are not.

I guess it is easier to take a SS and start a thread here than to actually understand how things work.

Good Luck.

So you are trying to tell us that PD is a scam just because your unlucky bet?
Does it mean that you'll accuse all site when you get unlucky losing streak?
Come on man, this is not a good way to prove that a site is a scam.

Please stop whining , it was just bad luck!
Gambling is not an investment.
If you sure profit, you're in the wrong place.
Primedice is the one of the most reputable gambling sites

come on man , you lost 10 in a row betting X2 and you are telling us now that PD is rigged  ???
I'm not a big fan of dice but this happens a lot
the odds of losing 10 in a row while u r betting on X2 is 0.1%
so every 1000 rolls u make u will get this streak once
and I'm sure if u do the math u should either quit the dice or change your strategy , but for sure not complaining cause it's easy to happen  ;)

I don't understand the provably fair, but to more dicegames with provably fair, i have lose at 5-10 consecutive bet to moltiplicator 1.5 . I have see three time consecutive say over 99,5 and i have bet under  ;D

You are very unlucky to lose when you have a 3% chance of losing with 1.02 odds.
Do you face such ' bad luck ' in other dice sites?

sometimes people win huge lotteries a few times in their life, or are struck by lightning twice per life, and you say that 4 looses on < 3 is impossible and its rigged?

If you win , you will say it's a great site ;)

sad story but that is possible to happen its really your own fault you bet that much.
always bet what you can afford to lose (every bet is possible loss)
so good luck in gambling future
regards.
-Katerniko1

I know there's three pages of replies and I'm replying to the 3rd post so this may well be covered, but yes, it's just unlucky. The chances of flipping 10 'fails' in a row is:

.5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 = .09765% chance it could happen. Lets be sensible and round that up to .1% chance. Thats 1 in 1000 odds.

That means that when you decide to "roll until you win", let's call that a "roll cycle", roll, and if as loss, keep rolling until you win - about once every 1,000 times you do that, you WILL fail 10 in a row.

I've done some hardcore betting, as well as somne hardcore analysis. I've done martingale strategy starting at 10 satoshi, doubling it up to 6.71 BTC, thats 26 failures, and have STILL lost. In simulations I've done I've seen 50/50 odds failures up to 56 times in rare cases.

Its possible. Unlikely,but very possible.

PD is one of the few sites that uses the mot fair and easy to verify PF system out there. Verify your rolls. They didn't cheat you. Math did.

I agree! :)

Dude - if you don't trust MATH and yet DO trust your infallable intuition instead, might I recommend you stop gambling immediately. When you are discounting mathematical fact as a scam, and an emotional "hunch" as truth, you will be broke and destitute in no short time.

That I can just about guarantee.

Only in PD you're not betting 100times or something like that , you bet thousands of times. Tell me if you don't, you are mostly "unexpected " to catch a 10 loss in a row in 100 bets but you may be "unlucky" as well,ask any martingaler, as the amount won is low and you must bet a crazy amount of times just to 2x your balance.

This is exact rehash of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993365.0

If you believe primedice to rigged, you should use the provided tools to prove it. Or debunk the provably fair if you find any holes in it. Otherwise this whole thing is a waste of time.

Lol. It was created by the same person and everything ::)

Agreed with you that thread is just waste of time and cheap way to get attention from other players, when dice sites has trusted provably fair and very easy to verify the each bet result than this kind of thread does not make sense.

Its better don't gamble they are born to take your money, they have fishy system so you will lose in any case.

A scam is different from a gambling operation. A Scam is when you take money of the user without giving them any details or without their consent where they are in no position to get it back.
A Gambling operation makes it clear that the casinos have the edge, and will honour all bets, and you are free to make bets.

Thats definitely bad luck there, but if it verifies it doesn't make it a scam.

LOL. Dadice was a scam from day 1. Don't even talk xD

wait so acording to you all dice sites that you loose on are scams yes?

off topic: do you get paid for wearing bit-x sig with negative trust?

Naw, they only three that I know are scams are Primedice, 999Dice, and DaDice. Keep in mind I've played on almost every dice site.

No you havent play in betterbets  ;) . Even if you have play in most sites, your judgement is based on your luck, if you lose then it is a scam but if you win then the site is legit  :-\

Yeah I've played betterbets.io. I got 0.0001 in there and took it up to 0.05 the very first time I played...

Every time you bet theres a chance to lose.  You can't bet with high odds and then be upset you lost.  There's a chance you will lose the money and you have to take that into account if you plan on betting.

There will be a house edge on every dice site.
Here's my yesterday bet using martiangle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg11565482#msg11565482)
The chance for getting those streak about 0.01% ...Really bad luck  :(

You can try other gambling site without house edge , example : directbet, etc

Dont get me wrong guys or dont think I have lost too much that is saying ..

I whenever bet and place small amount like 0.0001 btc i always win at 95%

but when i play at 95% with amount like 0.2-0.5 btc , i loose more than 50% times, I know you will say fair and I really dont have any problems with it .

I stopped gambling there rather than opening threads and get laughed by stupids :(

So someone lost one high-odd roll, and this is proof that PD is rigging rolls? Provably fair in an implementation like PD's is 100% verifiable. There is literally no way to rig it, and stating that it is rigged shows that you either have a severe misunderstanding of mathematics/the mathematics behind provably fair or are just trying to stir something up.