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Title: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 11, 2015, 07:46:04 PM
I just finished deploying a great CKPOOL as a private pool .

If anyone interesting to mine to my pool he will be welcome .

The main benefit of private pool is user will mine alone until block discovered so no competitors there , Only one user , and we will share the full reward of 25 BTC .


  • I will provide user access to pool server after agreement.


  • My plan is to create one private pool for every user.

  • Pool still in develop mode , it may not be stable yet but working very good.


Programmers are welcome too .

Finally thanks to -CK , Many pools are using his pool's code .

Pm if you have any idea or you can link power.



Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: aurel57 on June 12, 2015, 09:27:45 AM
I just finished deploying a great CKPOOL as a private pool .

If anyone interesting to mine to my pool he will be welcome .

The main benefit of private pool is user will mine alone until block discovered so no competitors there , Only one user , and we will share the full reward of 25 BTC .


  • I will provide user access to pool server after agreement.


  • My plan is to create one private pool for every user.

  • Pool still in develop mode , it may not be stable yet but working very good.


Programmers are welcome too .

Finally thanks to -CK , Many pools are using his pool's code .

Pm if you have any idea or you can link power.



Why would anybody do this and not just mine at CK's solo pool themselves??


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 02:32:22 PM
You mean you didn't understand anything .

I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

or you can gambling with 100 users and waste your hash power.

I will Accept users in private pool with minimum 50 TH .

User will mine until to hit the block or Orphan block recorded .


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 12, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Perhaps you're not communicating as clearly as you could.  You mention that "we will share the full reward of 25BTC".  What exactly does that mean?  -ck has created the code and hosts his own solo pool.  What advantages do you offer with your proposition here?


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: eleuthria on June 12, 2015, 03:00:01 PM
I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

I wouldn't mine with anybody who thinks mining in a pool means you're competing with others in the pool.  You're NEVER doing the same work as the other miners on the same pool.

You are *always* competing with THE ENTIRE NETWORK, no matter if you're solo mining, pool mining, or solo pool mining.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 12, 2015, 03:06:31 PM
I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

I wouldn't mine with anybody who thinks mining in a pool means you're competing with others.  You're NEVER doing the same work as the other miners on the same pool.

You are *always* competing with THE ENTIRE NETWORK, no matter if you're solo mining, pool mining, or solo pool mining.
I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines here, but I *think* he's trying to state that if you choose to mine with him, you'll get your very own instance of ckpool.  On that particular pool instance you won't have any miners besides your own.  I could be wrong, though since as I said I'm reading between the lines :)


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: loshia on June 12, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
Yeah...
The biggest nonsence I have ever read ???
on solo the only competitor is your luck ;)
When reading between the lines
I can tell that the poster is unable to hack the code to provide pure solo mining and that is why he is posting such a big bulshit
In theory he can hard code 25 BTC address reward in poll config and that is all -stock ckpool code publicly available.
If two miners come he must hardcode 2 btc addresses = 2 instances = private poll with no competitors literaturely speaking  :D
If 1k miners come he needs to posses 1k servers or what ;D
To operate a pool some other skills are needed dude....
But posting BULSHIT works sometimes ...
Good luck with you server farm venture  :P


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 05:17:02 PM
Yeah...
The biggest nonsence I have ever read ???
on solo the only competitor is your luck ;)
When reading between the lines
I can tell that the poster is unable to hack the code to provide pure solo mining and that is why he is posting such a big bulshit
In theory he can hard code 25 BTC address reward in poll config and that is all -stock ckpool code publicly available.
If two miners come he must hardcode 2 btc addresses = 2 instances = private poll with no competitors literaturely speaking  :D
If 1k miners come he needs to posses 1k servers or what ;D
To operate a pool some other skills are needed dude....
But posting BULSHIT works sometimes ...
Good luck with you server farm venture  :P


Bulshit ??

I can see that you are nothing . maybe you are insect or something like that .

I mention that I used ckpool code , That doesn't mean my pool is competing ck solo pool  .

My Idea is to find a solution between mining in PPLNS and SOLO

I spent about 20 BTC in solo mining in 2 different pool without Luck , and you can see that some users making teams and they are sharing rewards .

From this point I Decide to make a Private pool and mine alone , so I can wait months to discover a block but without loosing my hashing power .




Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: loshia on June 12, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Sory dude it is not just bulshit it is a plain and pure bulshit...
Please stop posting you are making fun of your self with such incompetence ...


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 05:26:08 PM
Perhaps you're not communicating as clearly as you could.  You mention that "we will share the full reward of 25BTC".  What exactly does that mean?  -ck has created the code and hosts his own solo pool.  What advantages do you offer with your proposition here?

Its still an Idea
My Idea is to create private pool for every user . That not mean I will got 50 % :) may I got 25 % or less for only deploying and operatiing , User can use his address and will have access to server .

some of us like me can wasting 1BTC daily in solo mining but we can use this amount to create a private one .


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: loshia on June 12, 2015, 05:27:50 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=790323.msg11559753#msg11559753

That speaks alone dude....
It is like pure disaster for me.....
Any way once again good luck with your venture....
Windows Bitcoind + broken web server + broken ckpool config ..
No thanks
As people said your are not adding anything over con pool except your incompetence


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 12, 2015, 05:28:40 PM
I can see that you are nothing . maybe you are insect or something like that .

That made me laugh :D.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=790323.msg11559753#msg11559753

That speaks alone dude....
It is like pure disaster for me.....
Any way once again good luck with your venture....
Windows Bitcoind + broken web server + broken ckpool config ..
No thanks
As people said your are not adding anything over con pool except your incompetence


Look at my first Post

    Pool still in develop mode , it may not be stable yet but working very good.



My Private pool is a solution and many in bitcoin's network are using private pools

Also You are not welcome . Programmers and users with hashing power are welcome ,


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: loshia on June 12, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
Super....
I am an insect  ;D with decent  programmer skils combined with hasing power...

and for the record none with hashing power or with decent programmer skills will come
....
And you know why? Because qualified engineering time costs money. And no one has a spare time to partner with you while loosing money in one way or another...
Go to school dude. Or graduate first ;) it is a very bad idea to get your experience while your partners lose money during your trial and error attempts
Please spent nex 20 BTC and hire someone to make a nice pool deployment and to explain you the basics
Then change your nick come again and look for "partners"
Best of luck


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 12, 2015, 06:33:59 PM
Super....
I am an insect  ;D with decent  programmer skils combined with hasing power...

;D


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: jstefanop on June 12, 2015, 06:39:02 PM
I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

I wouldn't mine with anybody who thinks mining in a pool means you're competing with others.  You're NEVER doing the same work as the other miners on the same pool.

You are *always* competing with THE ENTIRE NETWORK, no matter if you're solo mining, pool mining, or solo pool mining.
I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines here, but I *think* he's trying to state that if you choose to mine with him, you'll get your very own instance of ckpool.  On that particular pool instance you won't have any miners besides your own.  I could be wrong, though since as I said I'm reading between the lines :)

Nah what he is trying to state is that you will mine on his "private" pool, and when YOU hit a block with your hash power he will run with the 25 BTC.

Nice way to scam someone out of 5k... I applaud your effort OP, but nice try.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: loshia on June 12, 2015, 06:52:59 PM
I think that he is just an young enthusiast and his intentions are not to run with 25 btc and to scam people ...
But meanwhile setting the pool NNNNth "private" instance ;D he just can fickup pool config UNintentionally an send the 25 BTC in nowhere ;D

Same thing at the end BTC are gone only good intentions are left ;D
Such a waste :'( for the pool op and his "partners"...


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 06:59:09 PM
I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

I wouldn't mine with anybody who thinks mining in a pool means you're competing with others.  You're NEVER doing the same work as the other miners on the same pool.

You are *always* competing with THE ENTIRE NETWORK, no matter if you're solo mining, pool mining, or solo pool mining.
I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines here, but I *think* he's trying to state that if you choose to mine with him, you'll get your very own instance of ckpool.  On that particular pool instance you won't have any miners besides your own.  I could be wrong, though since as I said I'm reading between the lines :)

Nah what he is trying to state is that you will mine on his "private" pool, and when YOU hit a block with your hash power he will run with the 25 BTC.

Nice way to scam someone out of 5k... I applaud your effort OP, but nice try.

OMG        Its a sink of insects


They are not even read my post , Creating Pools with user address and server login . So user have ability to change, monitor, manage  and operate his pool .

Untill now I have 2 pools already running in 2 different servers .

 Developers , programmers , Serious users will have Access right now to my servers .  Its not to prove (Because I don't care for Insects) Its just to start working .


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 12, 2015, 08:23:31 PM
It's because you're not articulating what you're offering.  The only information you've given is that you've managed to kind of install a somewhat working version of ckpool for solo mining.  You're hoping to attract developers, programmers and "serious users".  If any of those types of users wanted to, they would simply install ckpool on their own and not bother trusting that you may or may not have done things right on your side.  I mean, really, what is it you're offering here?  I trust -ck and his solo pool.  He wrote the mining code and the pool code.  I hope you're successful, but you had better clearly and concisely communicate what you're offering.  Right now it's pretty vague.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 08:50:42 PM
It's because you're not articulating what you're offering.  The only information you've given is that you've managed to kind of install a somewhat working version of ckpool for solo mining.  You're hoping to attract developers, programmers and "serious users".  If any of those types of users wanted to, they would simply install ckpool on their own and not bother trusting that you may or may not have done things right on your side.  I mean, really, what is it you're offering here?  I trust -ck and his solo pool.  He wrote the mining code and the pool code.  I hope you're successful, but you had better clearly and concisely communicate what you're offering.  Right now it's pretty vague.

Thank you jonnybravo

You are Right , My post not clear enough because I'm not offering service . Im just publish a new way to mine , I dont like the existing Mining methods

Share payments OR solo

3 - 10 $ daily  OR  gambling  in  Hugo casino pool  .

Non profitable mining OR Lottery ticket

I think  Rigs's owners or rentals users must have another choice , That to have your own pool

You will mine untill you discover a block . That's it

Main benefit is you will never lose your hashing power like solo mining (only 1 hashing power win , others gone)


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: jstefanop on June 12, 2015, 09:02:36 PM
I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

I wouldn't mine with anybody who thinks mining in a pool means you're competing with others.  You're NEVER doing the same work as the other miners on the same pool.

You are *always* competing with THE ENTIRE NETWORK, no matter if you're solo mining, pool mining, or solo pool mining.
I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines here, but I *think* he's trying to state that if you choose to mine with him, you'll get your very own instance of ckpool.  On that particular pool instance you won't have any miners besides your own.  I could be wrong, though since as I said I'm reading between the lines :)

Nah what he is trying to state is that you will mine on his "private" pool, and when YOU hit a block with your hash power he will run with the 25 BTC.

Nice way to scam someone out of 5k... I applaud your effort OP, but nice try.

OMG        Its a sink of insects


They are not even read my post , Creating Pools with user address and server login . So user have ability to change, monitor, manage  and operate his pool .

Untill now I have 2 pools already running in 2 different servers .

 Developers , programmers , Serious users will have Access right now to my servers .  Its not to prove (Because I don't care for Insects) Its just to start working .

please don't call me an insect, I am a beautiful ladybug


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: loshia on June 12, 2015, 09:14:33 PM
Maya the bee ;)
Another  remarkable comment
------
Main benefit is you will never lose your heart ashing power like solo mining (only 1 hashing power win , others gone)
-------
Says the OP of the ckpool ;D

Pathetic  ;D
Says the male nasty bug....


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: kano on June 12, 2015, 09:57:04 PM
It's because you're not articulating what you're offering.  The only information you've given is that you've managed to kind of install a somewhat working version of ckpool for solo mining.  You're hoping to attract developers, programmers and "serious users".  If any of those types of users wanted to, they would simply install ckpool on their own and not bother trusting that you may or may not have done things right on your side.  I mean, really, what is it you're offering here?  I trust -ck and his solo pool.  He wrote the mining code and the pool code.  I hope you're successful, but you had better clearly and concisely communicate what you're offering.  Right now it's pretty vague.

Thank you jonnybravo

You are Right , My post not clear enough because I'm not offering service . Im just publish a new way to mine , I dont like the existing Mining methods

Share payments OR solo

3 - 10 $ daily  OR  gambling  in  Hugo casino pool  .

Non profitable mining OR Lottery ticket

I think  Rigs's owners or rentals users must have another choice , That to have your own pool

You will mine untill you discover a block . That's it

Main benefit is you will never lose your hashing power like solo mining (only 1 hashing power win , others gone)
There is no lost hashing power on a solo pool.
There are only found blocks.
Your opening post makes no sense at all.
What a pool should be stating clearly, by means of known terms, is how the payout is distributed when a block is found.
Your post doesn't succeed in doing that at all.

A normal (non-solo) pool equates hashing power of each of the miners, for some amount of history, to a payout calculation.

A solo pool does not, hashing power is not relevant to the payout.
On solo it is simply 100% of the block reward (or less if there is a fee) to the miner that finds the block.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: aurel57 on June 12, 2015, 10:06:21 PM
I just finished deploying a great CKPOOL as a private pool .

If anyone interesting to mine to my pool he will be welcome .

The main benefit of private pool is user will mine alone until block discovered so no competitors there , Only one user , and we will share the full reward of 25 BTC .


  • I will provide user access to pool server after agreement.


  • My plan is to create one private pool for every user.

  • Pool still in develop mode , it may not be stable yet but working very good.


Programmers are welcome too .

Finally thanks to -CK , Many pools are using his pool's code .

Pm if you have any idea or you can link power.



Why would anybody do this and not just mine at CK's solo pool themselves??



You mean you didn't understand anything .

I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

or you can gambling with 100 users and waste your hash power.

I will Accept users in private pool with minimum 50 TH .

User will mine until to hit the block or Orphan block recorded .

Correct ... I don't understand anything about your plans


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 12, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
In all honest OP I think it will be very hard for a new solo mining pool to compete with solo.ckpool.org. Its run by very trusted people and has already found 65 blocks. In fact I've got some rental rigs pointed there as we speak.

I can see that you are nothing . maybe you are insect or something like that .

OMG        Its a sink of insects

But I do find your insect sayings very amusing ;D. I'm sorry to laugh, its obviously been lost in translation.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 10:28:15 PM
OK

What about Fact that hashing power will solve a block in period time frame ?  100 TH will generate a block in 20 days and 10 Th will generate block in 90 days ???

My point is to give my miners a enough time frame to solve a block without resting bestshares .

and what about Pool 's Luck ??

EX : http://www.kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

So If I mine in 5 Pools I will have more chance to got good Luck

Maybe I'm Right or Wrong


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 10:46:36 PM
http://s9.postimg.org/7dbf35y3f/insects.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7dbf35y3f/)


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: X7 on June 12, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
This almost read like - Single female looking for love lol


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 12, 2015, 10:49:16 PM
http://s9.postimg.org/7dbf35y3f/insects.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7dbf35y3f/)

Ha ha very good :D.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 12, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
Cute drawing...

I'm still confused by your statements.  What does the timeframe for finding a block with 100TH/s or 10TH/s have to do with anything?  What is this new mining method you've discovered?  You just want to not have your best share reset?  Who freaking cares about best share?  Unless that best share is above the current network difficulty it means nothing.  What does a pool's luck have to do with anything if you're solo mining?  If you mine in 5 pools you're spreading your variance around and not victimized by a single pool's luck... but that has nothing to do with solo mining at all.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: kano on June 12, 2015, 10:52:55 PM
OK

What about Fact that hashing power will solve a block in period time frame ?  100 TH will generate a block in 20 days and 10 Th will generate block in 90 days ???
Your hashing power doesn't decide when you will find a block.
It only decides the expected average time to find a block ... average over maybe a few thousand blocks.

Quote
My point is to give my miners a enough time frame to solve a block without resting bestshares .
Best share is a random statistic - it has no actual meaning to when you will find a block.
It simply shows how close you were to finding a block.

Imagine someone says to you, if you give me $1 and you roll 9 sixes in a row I'll give you a million dollars.
You manage to astound everyone and roll 8 sixes in a row, but fail on the 9th roll.
Close - but - you get nothing :P
(and by the way, he has a good ~10x "house edge" if everyone gives him $1 to try :P)

Quote
and what about Pool 's Luck ??

EX : http://www.kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks
Yeah pretty cool hey :D

Quote
So If I mine in 5 Pools I will have more chance to got good Luck

Maybe I'm Right or Wrong
You can't affect luck.
You can reduce variance.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 11:21:42 PM
You Are Right Kano by 90 %
But please answer the last question .

why when block discovered elsewhere all miners's bestshares still working and only pool's minesrs has been rest ?  (sorry for my language )

solving Block anywhere not effect my work expect my pool 's group !!

I think I will run my miners alone in solo tunnel until I solve the block without Disturbance

This is my point


If my point is wrong I will sell my rigs and I 'll let insects live with me in my home .



Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 11:26:28 PM
http://s23.postimg.org/6y5zbnuhz/The_End.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6y5zbnuhz/)


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: kano on June 12, 2015, 11:41:26 PM
You Are Right Kano by 90 %
But please answer the last question .

why when block discovered elsewhere all miners's bestshares still working and only pool's minesrs has been rest ?  (sorry for my language )

solving Block anywhere not effect my work expect my pool 's group !!

I think I will run my miners alone in solo tunnel until I solve the block without Disturbance

This is my point


If my point is wrong I will sell my rigs and I 'll let insects live with me in my home .

As I already said:

Quote
Best share is a random statistic - it has no actual meaning to when you will find a block.
It simply shows how close you were to finding a block.

Block finding is not a gradual process.
You either find it on each hash you do or you don't.
Each previous hash you do has no effect on the next hash you do.
A 1THs miner does 10^12 hashes per second, but the chance of each one finding a block is unaffected by the previous ones.
Each one has the same chance.

If I find a 3 billion diff share, it is worthless on solo - it also has no effect on when I will find a block.
Knowing best share makes no difference at all - and also part of the reason why I've not yet bothered to show it on kano.is since it causes this type of confusion for some who don't understand bitcoin mining.

Maybe another example might help:

Someone makes a lottery of 1000 tickets worth $10 and only one winner who gets $5000
(yeah that's pretty shady - but you'd be surprised how often people part with their $/BTC under such shady circumstances :P)
The tickets have a number on them from 000 to 999
If the winning ticket is 808 and you had ticket 809, you were close - but - so what? You get nothing and it wont change your chances if you buy a ticket in the next lottery.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 12, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
Thank you Kano for this Great information about mining .

I appreciate Your Clarification .


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 13, 2015, 12:09:41 AM
Thank you Kano for this Great information about mining .

I appreciate Your Clarification .

Kano knows his stuff, we appreciate you effort considering a new pool its good of you to put in the effort.

Love the insect stuff, it will make me smile for a long time ;D.

Good luck in your future ventures, I'm sure you'll go a long way.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: PrivacyBTC on June 13, 2015, 12:28:59 AM
Thank you too hedgy for your quotes


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 13, 2015, 12:31:09 AM
Thank you too hedgy for your quotes

No problem buddy, keep up the good work you'll go a long way :).


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: Cheeseater on June 13, 2015, 01:41:04 AM
Best thread in a while :P By the way I've got insects every where, fruit flies if anyone knows how to get rid of them HELP!
Time for another gin. Good luck on the pool.  


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: hedgy73 on June 13, 2015, 02:04:35 AM
Best thread in a while :P By the way I've got insects every where, fruit flies if anyone knows how to get rid of them HELP!
Time for another gin. Good luck on the pool.  

Ha ha we like insects on this thread, especially if they are in a sink :D.

Even more if they are surrounded by gin :P.


Title: Re: Private Solo Pool , Need Partners
Post by: aurel57 on June 14, 2015, 10:08:57 AM
Best thread in a while :P By the way I've got insects every where, fruit flies if anyone knows how to get rid of them HELP!
Time for another gin. Good luck on the pool.  

OK fruit flies.... take a glass and pour about 1/2 inch of wine in glass. Clover top with plastic stretch wrap ( like saran wrap) take a fork and punch some small holes in the top maybe like 6, set glass in kitchen counter or where you see the fruit flies.... you will be surprised how many you catch. make sure you leave it out for a week or two after you see the last fly as they hatch new ones I think in 5-7 days.   If you have a lot of fruit flies set out 3 or 4 traps in different areas. Then don't let the rest of the wine go to waste.. ;)