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Title: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: betatest512 on September 13, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
i want to join two pool's one pool is BTC and the other is PPCoin?

is it possible to merge mine BTC and PPC as they use the algorithm.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: gbl08ma on September 13, 2012, 04:33:19 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: betatest512 on September 13, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.

Is there a way to submit the same share to the btc pool as well as the ppc pool.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: crazyates on September 13, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.

Is there a way to submit the same share to the btc pool as well as the ppc pool.

Run 2 different instances of your miner, each pointed at a different pool.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: scintill on September 13, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.

Is there a way to submit the same share to the btc pool as well as the ppc pool.

Run 2 different instances of your miner, each pointed at a different pool.

To be clear, this is splitting the hashing power, right?

Edit: I said this because it's not really "merge-mine".  As the thread went on, it seems the OP may not even appreciate the distinction.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: crazyates on September 13, 2012, 05:47:24 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.
Is there a way to submit the same share to the btc pool as well as the ppc pool.
Run 2 different instances of your miner, each pointed at a different pool.
To be clear, this is splitting the hashing power, right?
Yes.

Otherwise I'd be running an instance of CGMiner on every single pool I could find!


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: betatest512 on September 13, 2012, 07:58:08 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.
Is there a way to submit the same share to the btc pool as well as the ppc pool.
Run 2 different instances of your miner, each pointed at a different pool.
To be clear, this is splitting the hashing power, right?
Yes.

Otherwise I'd be running an instance of CGMiner on every single pool I could find!


is there any way to submit the same share to two pools without looseing hashing speed.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: crazyates on September 13, 2012, 08:11:31 PM
BTC and PPC can't be merge-mined as they use the same algorithm.
Is there a way to submit the same share to the btc pool as well as the ppc pool.
Run 2 different instances of your miner, each pointed at a different pool.
To be clear, this is splitting the hashing power, right?
Yes.

Otherwise I'd be running an instance of CGMiner on every single pool I could find!
is there any way to submit the same share to two pools without looseing hashing speed.
Absolutely not.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: gbl08ma on September 13, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
No. The "problems" for each currency are different, so the "parts of the solution" (shares) can't be the same for each currency.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: betatest512 on September 14, 2012, 12:15:43 AM
is there a way to join two pools with the same hashing power by submitting the same share to both pools and keeping the block's when found by not submitting it to the pool.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: jl2012 on September 14, 2012, 12:19:19 AM
is there a way to join two pools with the same hashing power by submitting the same share to both pools and keeping the block's when found by not submitting it to the pool.

NO, NO, and NO


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: crazyates on September 14, 2012, 12:35:24 AM
I try to be very patient with newbies around here, but every single one of your posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63752;sa=showPosts) has been massively ridiculous. Can't tell if you're trolling, or just that completely clueless. Almost every single thing you have asked can be found either by searching here on the forums, googling for an answer, or just reading around! Please just stop.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: AmDD on September 14, 2012, 12:50:47 AM
I try to be very patient with newbies around here, but every single one of your posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=63752;sa=showPosts) has been massively ridiculous. Can't tell if you're trolling, or just that completely clueless. Almost every single thing you have asked can be found either by searching here on the forums, googling for an answer, or just reading around! Please just stop.

Totally agree, you have taken spoon feeding to a new level...


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: betatest512 on September 14, 2012, 05:17:34 PM
is there a way to join two pools with the same hashing power by submitting the same share to both pools and keeping the block's when found by not submitting it to the pool.

NO, NO, and NO

can't any miner do it?


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: CJGoodings on September 14, 2012, 05:19:49 PM
Each hash is unique for the pool its mining on, work done for one pool wont work on another pool, its just that clear cut & simple.


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: betatest512 on September 14, 2012, 05:53:30 PM
ABCPool.co states that "A cheater can submit only shares and withhold any blocks found. This way the pool must pay for the shares, but will never earn anything because it does not know about the found block."

how can someone do it?

can it be done with a miner?


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: scintill on September 14, 2012, 07:18:47 PM
ABCPool.co states that "A cheater can submit only shares and withhold any blocks found. This way the pool must pay for the shares, but will never earn anything because it does not know about the found block."

how can someone do it?

can it be done with a miner?

Yes, you can simply not send blocks you find, just to hurt the pool.  However you would have to have significant mining power to really hurt, and the pool can do things to find out and ban people who are doing this to them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94392.0


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: jl2012 on September 14, 2012, 07:30:35 PM
ABCPool.co states that "A cheater can submit only shares and withhold any blocks found. This way the pool must pay for the shares, but will never earn anything because it does not know about the found block."

how can someone do it?

can it be done with a miner?

You may do so to hurt the pool but you will never profit from doing this. Satisfied?


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: K1773R on October 25, 2012, 01:23:06 PM
ABCPool.co states that "A cheater can submit only shares and withhold any blocks found. This way the pool must pay for the shares, but will never earn anything because it does not know about the found block."

how can someone do it?

can it be done with a miner?

You may do so to hurt the pool but you will never profit from doing this. Satisfied?

wrong, if u wanna kill the pool so others use ur pool u will profit :P


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: 420 on December 15, 2012, 11:17:26 PM
If they're both SHA-256 why can't you merge mine PPC/BTC ?


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: smoothie on December 15, 2012, 11:35:42 PM
i want to join two pool's one pool is BTC and the other is PPCoin?

is it possible to merge mine BTC and PPC as they use the algorithm.

NO


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: 420 on December 15, 2012, 11:36:41 PM
i want to join two pool's one pool is BTC and the other is PPCoin?

is it possible to merge mine BTC and PPC as they use the algorithm.

NO

Why can you do NMC and not PPC


Title: Re: can i mine PPC while mining BTC?
Post by: smoothie on December 15, 2012, 11:43:06 PM
If they're both SHA-256 why can't you merge mine PPC/BTC ?

A new version of the PPC source needs to be released supporting Merge Mining with BTC etc. and a majority of the nodes/people needs to support this change by running the new code.