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Bitcoin => Electrum => Topic started by: Paride on July 01, 2015, 09:20:47 PM



Title: Curiosity about the seed
Post by: Paride on July 01, 2015, 09:20:47 PM
Hi all,

I'am new of bitcoin world.
I'm starting to looking electrum wallet.
I have a curiosity: how do electrum developpers to be sure that every seed is unique?
Of sure the number of random seeds is huge but unique means that I'll never have 2 identical seeds also if I generate all of these.

Another question.

If I want install a cold wallet, I suppose is better install electrum off line... Is this true?

If yes, how can I do? I tried only on line installation command.

Thanks


Title: Re: Curiosity about the seed
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on July 02, 2015, 12:32:59 AM
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Another question.

If I want install a cold wallet, I suppose is better install electrum off line... Is this true?

If yes, how can I do? I tried only on line installation command.

Thanks

Electrum wallet is same for both cold and hot storages. Only thing you need to do for using an Electrum wallet as cold storage is not to connect to internet from that device.

To send a transaction from cold wallet, see http://electrum.orain.org/wiki/Cold_storage.

You may also use http://bitkey.io/.


Title: Re: Curiosity about the seed
Post by: Paride on July 02, 2015, 08:32:50 AM


Only thing you need to do for using an Electrum wallet as cold storage is not to connect to internet from that device.

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Yes, I have to install the same electrum client. But the question is; how I can install the cold wallet if I can't connect the pc to internet?
I have Linux O.S. and I tried only a internet install procedure. Nothing about the off line installation.

Nobody can answer abuot the unique seed?

Thanks


Title: Re: Curiosity about the seed
Post by: belcher on July 02, 2015, 10:52:11 AM

Yes, I have to install the same electrum client. But the question is; how I can install the cold wallet if I can't connect the pc to internet?
I have Linux O.S. and I tried only a internet install procedure. Nothing about the off line installation.


Copying it over with a USB memory drive is one way.

Nobody can answer abuot the unique seed?

Thanks

Electrum seeds have 128 bits of entropy (randomness) in them. Which means the chances of two people generating the same seed is 1/2^128 or about 10^-39. In other words, overwhelmingly unlikely.


Title: Re: Curiosity about the seed
Post by: jonald_fyookball on July 05, 2015, 09:39:14 PM

Yes, I have to install the same electrum client. But the question is; how I can install the cold wallet if I can't connect the pc to internet?
I have Linux O.S. and I tried only a internet install procedure. Nothing about the off line installation.


Copying it over with a USB memory drive is one way.

Nobody can answer abuot the unique seed?

Thanks

Electrum seeds have 128 bits of entropy (randomness) in them. Which means the chances of two people generating the same seed is 1/2^128 or about 10^-39. In other words, overwhelmingly unlikely.

this.

even if each person on earth generated a billion seeds every second, it would likely be thousands or millions of years before you'd start to see collisions.