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I'd like to be able to send/receive BTC without the recipient/sender knowing my full BTC balance.  From what I can gather, depositing/withdrawing to/from an exchange is the best way to do this.  Which exchange would be best?

I think the exchange should have the following characteristics:

- a changeable BTC deposit address
- BTC withdrawals from a shared wallet that isn't linked to your deposit address
- no KYC for non-fiat activity
- fast BTC crediting (1 or 2 confirmations)
- a good reputation
- low or no withdrawal fees
- 2FA would be nice

Any suggestions?

Just deposit and withdraw bitcoin at BTC-e and you are done.

The top two candidates I came up with were Bitfinex and BTC-e.  Is BTC-e a better choice?

YoBit's got very low withdrawal fees and I think it gives BTC withdrawals from a shared wallet. I have only done a few withdrawals but none of them was sent from my deposit address, and some were sent from multiple addresses. There is no KYC and I think they offer 2FA, although I'm not 100% certain.

Doesn't get more anonymous than BTC-e. Wash trade your btc through litecoin for an extra level of obfuscation  ;D

isnt using any exchange just as effective as btc-e? your sending it to one address and it will come out of another exchange controlled address. of course as long as you can stored the bitcoin on their server

You also need the ability to create an account anonymously. Otherwise, the exchange could divulge your information (for a price of course), and completely defeat the mixing.

Using Tor should suffice.

Why not get a darkcoin wallet then use shapeshift.io to turn your bitcoins to darkcoins and then back to bitcoin, they will be completely mixed and no one can track them back to you.

There is no darkcoin anymore, also all this will cost you a decent % of your coins in fees.

Deposit and withdraw on BTC-e (or another exchange where you can create accounts/deposit/withdraw anonmyously) with an account made over Tor should do the trick.

I agree that the darkcoin switch is a good way to go.

Have you tried https://poloniex.com/ ?

You could lend out some coin for margin traders and then pull it back in with profit and send out.

not true, all you see on shapeshift is what you get, they even say so in their website, the only fee is the miners fee, which is ok , there can't be zero fees

also you don't need darkcoin, monero is vastly better

darkcoin was just for example, there are I think 26 currencies listed there, you can even use litecoin or dogecoin and the conversion + Tx Fee would be the only % of your coins you would loose but if you're aiming for true anonymity than you'd have to pay a fee.

I'm sure when you have 1 BTC and mix it BTC>alt>BTC you will end up with ~0.98-0.97 BTC

Definately agree with you about Monero tho, do you also have XMR Amph?

It's about to break out at the moment also, just posted this in the speculation thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg11774942#msg11774942

https://CoinChimp.com has no kyc, no docs, no Id required, nothing. 

Or you could just use a mixer like https://BitLaunder.com, BitMixer.io, BitcoinFog, etc (or a combination of all three .. those are the only trustworthy mixers, but there are some reports of theft from each of them unfortunately)

It depends if you want to use exchange as a mixer on a frequent basis or just once or twice. If you are interested only in mixing your coins why not use normal mixer in the first place.
Using exchanges and giving them your full credentials could bite you in the ass in the end, when in couple of years IRS will got your data the same way as they own Mt.Gox user base list.

You can try poloniex,they move many bitcoins

Have you seen blockchain.info exchage?

why don't you use a mixing service like bitmixer?

poloniex requires your personal information to let you withdraw from your account, and that defeats the purpose of OP.

you can use bittrex instead, i think the number of confirmation isn't high and it requires only the standard fee of 10,000 satoshi. with no need to any personal information. it has 2fa too.

Yeah, bittrex is you're best option if you do not want to give any personal information out.  It is your choice but some sites offer lower fees in exchange for little person information.

Why do you not create seperate accounts on each of these and just mix the coins before you transfer it to the other wallets. {It's never a good idea to keep all your coins together}

I have several wallets and accounts on different exchanges, and I just mix my coins before I deposit it into these other wallets.

If they want to trace it back, they would need to sapoena the mixer service for the information, and I have not heard of any successfull attempts at doing that.

Good luck...

What kind of personal information required to withdraw in poloniex? Is that a new rules? I have made some withdrawals (btc) from poloniex to my personal address some time ago, but as I remember they did not ask me any personal information.

It looks like it depends on how much you want to withdraw per day. Under $2000/day and you can remain anonymous I think. It's new rules they started a couple months ago.

https://i.imgur.com/gzHPoLo.png?1

That's why I had not been asked any personal information because I only made small amount of withdrawal  ;D. Thanks for noticing it..

no for now i don't hold any but they are very cheap compared to their past price of 500k satoshi

if i would ever need to mix my coin i know what altcoin i'll purchase, but there is also DSH dashcoin which use the same algo


yeah they added an ID required thing, but you can just put fake name last name, if your limit per day is very low, there are various level of verification

Since you said you want to use it to send and receive bitcoin and not fiat, I am a fan of btc-e but I will remove sentiments and guide you right without any doubt I will ask you to try allcoin.com, so far they have the fastest deposit known to me.