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Economy => Service Discussion => Topic started by: soy on July 03, 2015, 07:23:12 PM



Title: MtGox
Post by: soy on July 03, 2015, 07:23:12 PM

Any rumors or changes in the MtGox situation?  When do I get my bitcoins back?


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: xeryan on July 03, 2015, 07:27:15 PM
They already ran with all your money to the hawaii


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: Amph on July 03, 2015, 07:29:14 PM
there the possibility to claim via kraken, around 20% if i'm not mistaken, there st i think it's gone forever, better to not hold more than you need for tradin there, and return the profit into your wallet as soon as possible...


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: 98problems on July 03, 2015, 07:34:11 PM

Any rumors or changes in the MtGox situation?  When do I get my bitcoins back?
why would you write such nonsence? have you ever heard a story where a thieve would come back and give money back? i have not too


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 03, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
here is your answer:

http://up.picr.de/22431680vu.jpg


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: qwk on July 03, 2015, 07:45:26 PM
Any rumors or changes in the MtGox situation?  When do I get my bitcoins back?
http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/featured/opi_greenberg_112114.jpg
But still no MtGox refund ;D


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: soy on July 03, 2015, 08:33:52 PM
Wish I hadn't mentioned that if he went to court in Nassau County to testify he might end up in county jail negotiating for toilet paper from the other prisoners.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: dukeneptun on July 03, 2015, 10:32:02 PM
Wish I hadn't mentioned that if he went to court in Nassau County to testify he might end up in county jail negotiating for toilet paper from the other prisoners.

Do you know where Mark Karpeles is right now? It looks like he's still active in Twitter.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: betterangels on July 03, 2015, 11:14:21 PM
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fup.picr.de%2F22431680vu.jpg&t=553&c=-97F3DJZfwlmDA


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: WhatTheGox on July 04, 2015, 09:30:48 AM
Wish I hadn't mentioned that if he went to court in Nassau County to testify he might end up in county jail negotiating for toilet paper from the other prisoners.

Do you know where Mark Karpeles is right now? It looks like he's still active in Twitter.

Last i heard he was still in japan, i think he might have to stay in the country by law atm? Isnt that why he couldnt leave with his family?


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: zazarb on July 04, 2015, 10:57:03 PM

Any rumors or changes in the MtGox situation?  When do I get my bitcoins back?
or you have complete claims via kraken?


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: gentlemand on July 04, 2015, 11:05:38 PM
I find it bleedin' incredible that so little information has come out about what happened. It's been over a year. No mention even of all the fiat that was sent there and that's directly traceable. People were still transferring thousands after they'd halted coin withdrawals.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: dserrano5 on July 05, 2015, 02:28:42 AM
I find it bleedin' incredible that so little information has come out about what happened. It's been over a year. No mention even of all the fiat that was sent there and that's directly traceable. People were still transferring thousands after they'd halted coin withdrawals.

Man, this is mtgox, what are you expecting?? Serious…


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: gentlemand on July 05, 2015, 02:24:18 PM

Man, this is mtgox, what are you expecting?? Serious…

I was expecting the third parties involved who are handling its demise to consult a little bit of paperwork and come up with some initial answers. If you have a more than a year I'm sure you can find the time to look at a few bank statements.

I guess I'm being hopelessly naive.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: 2double0 on July 05, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
I guess when Bitcoins will be more than $100k, they might come and sell your coins to you as I personally feel they were not thieved but the exchange people themselves stole the coins.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: DrApricot on July 05, 2015, 07:31:15 PM
I guess when Bitcoins will be more than $100k, they might come and sell your coins to you as I personally feel they were not thieved but the exchange people themselves stole the coins.
The Tokyo police leak in January implied 99% of coins were lost through insider fraud, so you're probably not so far from wrong. The ongoing debate seems to revolve around whether the bitcoins were lost during the late 2011 to 2012 time frame or more recently. Those who favour the former hypothesis believe Mt. Gox only ever held a fraction of the bitcoins deposited there after that early period. They  succeeded in covering up their losses which originally had occurred either through theft or fraud.

Until the addresses of the Mt. Gox bitcoins are released by bankruptcy trustee, Nobuaki Kobayashi, so they can be traced on the blockchain then there can be little hope of knowing for certain exactly what happened. However, there is also a lot of cash missing in bank deposits. It appears that much of Mt. Gox's remaining cash when it collapsed was set aside to pay legal expenses of the bankruptcy proceeding.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: freedombit on July 06, 2015, 07:10:59 AM
We will know what the addresses were within 2 years, and more likely one.


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: zazarb on July 07, 2015, 08:47:56 AM
news
To whom it may concern,

 

Since April 22, 2015, we have been making available an online bankruptcy claim filing system (hereinafter referred to as the “System”) that enables users of MTGOX Co., Ltd.’s Bitcoin exchange (hereinafter MTGOX Co., Ltd. will be referred to as “MTGOX” and the said users will be referred to as “Users”) to make online filings of their bankruptcy claims, etc. at our website (https://claims.mtgox.com) in relation to MTGOX’s bankruptcy proceedings (case number 2014 (fu) no. 3830 at the Tokyo District Court; hereinafter referred to as the “Bankruptcy Proceedings”).

 

Currently, the bankruptcy trustee is accepting bankruptcy claims filed by Users using the System (the “Online Method”). The period for filing bankruptcy claims was until May 29, 2015, but the bankruptcy trustee has been accepting filings of bankruptcy claims after the expiry of the said period.

 

The bankruptcy trustee decided that the deadline for filing bankruptcy claims using the Online Method will be 12 noon on July 29, 2015 (Japan time).

 

Therefore, after 12 noon on July 29, 2015, the only things that a User will be able to do using the Online Method will be to (i) view bankruptcy claims that he or she has filed himself or herself and (ii) transfer his or her bankruptcy claims to another person. Further details regarding transfers of claims which are mentioned in sub-paragraph (ii) will be announced through the MTGOX website (http://www.mtgox.com/) at a later time. However, nearer the time of distribution, the bankruptcy trustee is planning to give Users an opportunity to use the System again to make changes to the details of their bankruptcy claims other than increasing the amount of the bankruptcy claims that Users have filed (for example, changes in their addresses or company names) (Users will not be able to file new bankruptcy claims or to increase the amount of the bankruptcy claims that they have filed).


Title: Re: MtGox
Post by: mgroenouwe on July 07, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Deadline? It was more like a target Date if you ask me...
Not very professional for a trustee/lawyer to extend it.