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Title: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: gigabytecoin on June 02, 2011, 08:33:03 PM
I warned you, whoever you are... (Can't find my original post but I have talked about this before...)

HN is not a group you want to piss off. They are highly skilled, tightly knit, technical bunch that could do wonders for Bitcoin.

Stop posting all of this drib-drab about "what is bitcoin" and "my stupid simple bitcoin writeup". They do not fucking care.

Check out this story that is getting mad upvotes right now: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2613271 (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2613271)

And check out all of the hatred seen over here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2612688 (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2612688)

People go to HN to read about HACKER NEWS. Which bitcoin/economy/monetary related information is not.

Whenever we come up with our own open sourced ASIC chip project or we find a collision in the SHA-256 algo or something... by all means post it to HN.

Until then.... Smarten up, you are doing none of us any favors.

There is a wonderfully active sub-reddit (http://reddit.com/r/bitcoin) that is perfect for these (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2200705) kinds (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2265338) of (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2358118) posts (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1998144).


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: Indemnified on June 02, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
Probably   `agents provocateurs`. Not much you can do about it.

See you-tube video:       
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: gigabytecoin on June 02, 2011, 08:56:06 PM
Probably   `agents provocateurs`. Not much you can do about it.

See you-tube video:      
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow

Ummm what..? I highly doubt that a police force and/or "the man" is posting these stupid write ups - but maybe.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: compro01 on June 02, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
Probably   `agents provocateurs`. Not much you can do about it.

See you-tube video:      
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow

Ummm what..? I highly doubt that a police force and/or "the man" is posting these stupid write ups - but maybe.

doesn't need to be anything official.  just bunches of randoms who dislike bitcoin for whatever reason or are just looking for something amusing to do.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: AtlasONo on June 02, 2011, 10:36:10 PM
Dislike bitcoin
?? ??
Promote it
?? ??
 ???


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: kiba on June 02, 2011, 10:38:41 PM
What you see is a lot of bitcoin stories that get voted up, but what you don't see the bitcoin stories that don't get voted up.

I will keep submitting stories. If they like my stories, they will vote them up.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on June 02, 2011, 10:48:34 PM

Seems like bitcoin concept is frying a few braincells over at HN ... they are unsure if they are going to fall in love with it or spurn it and miss the biggest opportunity of a hacker's lifetime.  :-\ :-\


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: kiba on June 02, 2011, 10:57:01 PM

Seems like bitcoin concept is frying a few braincells over at HN ... they are unsure if they are going to fall in love with it or spurn it and miss the biggest opportunity of a hacker's lifetime.  :-\ :-\

They cannot distinguish the difference between a ponzi scheme/bubble and an insane opportunity. For many, the distinction is too fine.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: mewantsbitcoins on June 02, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
What else do you expect from teenager hacker wannabees?


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: kiba on June 02, 2011, 11:08:08 PM
What else do you expect from teenager hacker wannabees?

That's not the kind we're talking about. We're talking about twenty years old hacker startup founder wannabe change the world type.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: unk on June 02, 2011, 11:11:41 PM
honestly, 'teenager hacker wannabees' applies more readily to the people here than at hn. kiba, anyone?

i wish you people would stop with the 'speculating on bitcoins in the current block chain is the opportunity of a lifetime' nonsense. it doesn't just provoke negative reactions; it provokes legitimate negative reactions because what you're doing when you say that is functionally turning it into a scam. 'get in before it's too late' isn't something that legitimate investments need to have people say about them. the hn people would be right to filter all bitcoin discussion; that's what i'd want to do if i were a regular there.

i've said it before, but i'll say it again: i own a large number of bitcoins in the current block chain that i simply won't sell at the moment not because of my own desire to speculate but because it's just not ethical given the dishonest way people have been promoting it. your greed has gotten the better of you, and that's likely to have unfortunate results for the adoption of bitcoin as a technology.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: kiba on June 02, 2011, 11:25:48 PM
i wish you people would stop with the 'speculating on bitcoins in the current block chain is the opportunity of a lifetime' nonsense. it doesn't just provoke negative reactions; it provokes legitimate negative reactions because what you're doing when you say that is functionally turning it into a scam. 'get in before it's too late' isn't something that legitimate investments need to have people say about them. the hn people would be right to filter all bitcoin discussion; that's what i'd want to do if i were a regular there.

It's called expressing optimism. I am sure that's not a crime.
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i've said it before, but i'll say it again: i own a large number of bitcoins in the current block chain that i simply won't sell at the moment not because of my own desire to speculate but because it's just not ethical given the dishonest way people have been promoting it. your greed has gotten the better of you, and that's likely to have unfortunate results for the adoption of bitcoin as a technology.

I, too, don't speculate. However, the HN population is not all the early adopters we will ever have. In case, you have not noticed, the posting rate last month doubled over April.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: gigabytecoin on June 02, 2011, 11:39:03 PM
i wish you people would stop with the 'speculating on bitcoins in the current block chain is the opportunity of a lifetime' nonsense. it doesn't just provoke negative reactions; it provokes legitimate negative reactions because what you're doing when you say that is functionally turning it into a scam. 'get in before it's too late' isn't something that legitimate investments need to have people say about them. the hn people would be right to filter all bitcoin discussion; that's what i'd want to do if i were a regular there.

It's called expressing optimism. I am sure that's not a crime.
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i've said it before, but i'll say it again: i own a large number of bitcoins in the current block chain that i simply won't sell at the moment not because of my own desire to speculate but because it's just not ethical given the dishonest way people have been promoting it. your greed has gotten the better of you, and that's likely to have unfortunate results for the adoption of bitcoin as a technology.

I, too, don't speculate. However, the HN population is not all the early adopters we will ever have. In case, you have not noticed, the posting rate last month doubled over April.

I noticed that, which is a great thing... but does not detract from the fact that we are almost causing an entire community to turn their backs on us and that is never a good thing.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: kiba on June 02, 2011, 11:42:25 PM

I noticed that, which is a great thing... but does not detract from the fact that we are almost causing an entire community to turn their backs on us and that is never a good thing.

A bunch of cranky loud HN users community represent not. Last time I check, there's no cabal of bitcoin users that are part of a voting block.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: JohnDoe on June 03, 2011, 12:05:25 AM
I see an almost equal amount of people hating and defending bitcoin in those threads. Haters always gonna hate man, why are you being emotional about it?


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: rezin777 on June 03, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
i've said it before, but i'll say it again: i own a large number of bitcoins in the current block chain that i simply won't sell at the moment not because of my own desire to speculate but because it's just not ethical given the dishonest way people have been promoting it.

Suggesting that Bitcoins are not worth what they are currently fetching in the open market (which is exactly what you are doing in the quoted text) is as dishonest as suggesting they are worth more than what they are currently fetching in the open market.

By suggesting that it is unethical to sell at the moment, you clearly demonstrate that you feel the price is too high. After all, there would be no conflict with your ethics if the price was too low (or just right), regardless of how they were promoted.

Also, by holding your Bitcoins you are effectively limiting the supply on the market, which will increase the price.

Finally, you can sell your Bitcoins for any price you wish, regardless of what the market suggests.

If you were being honest about your reasons for not selling (which you had to make a point about), you would make an offer at the price you feel is fair, and sell your coins to anyone who meets your offer.

 


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: goatpig on June 03, 2011, 12:21:57 AM
honestly, 'teenager hacker wannabees' applies more readily to the people here than at hn. kiba, anyone?

i wish you people would stop with the 'speculating on bitcoins in the current block chain is the opportunity of a lifetime' nonsense. it doesn't just provoke negative reactions; it provokes legitimate negative reactions because what you're doing when you say that is functionally turning it into a scam. 'get in before it's too late' isn't something that legitimate investments need to have people say about them. the hn people would be right to filter all bitcoin discussion; that's what i'd want to do if i were a regular there.

i've said it before, but i'll say it again: i own a large number of bitcoins in the current block chain that i simply won't sell at the moment not because of my own desire to speculate but because it's just not ethical given the dishonest way people have been promoting it. your greed has gotten the better of you, and that's likely to have unfortunate results for the adoption of bitcoin as a technology.

A legitimate Bitcoin detractor wouldn't be holding BTC, nor bother hijacking a thread instead of making his point loud and clear in his own anti Bitcoin thread, let alone spew bullshit on individual users or pretend he's loaded with some BTC that he won't unload cuz hey the price ain't fair... really? Is that how dry your "anti Bitcoinism" is right now? Does it get more and more comical as the price reaches new highs?


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: JohnDoe on June 03, 2011, 12:23:02 AM
i've said it before, but i'll say it again: i own a large number of bitcoins in the current block chain that i simply won't sell at the moment not because of my own desire to speculate but because it's just not ethical given the dishonest way people have been promoting it. your greed has gotten the better of you, and that's likely to have unfortunate results for the adoption of bitcoin as a technology.

Bwahahaha oh please, get over yourself. If you really think that way then you should be giving your bitcoins away for free to late adopters, or to some homeless people or something.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on June 03, 2011, 12:25:10 AM
unk sounds like he might be internally conflicted with his new found wealth.

If it is cutting you up so much just sell the damn things ... oh, "but wait there's more" ... if i sell now, i'll be part of the scam ... huh?, you've circularly argued yourself into irrelevancy ... there is no way out of that loop except self-hate ... see you in hell unk.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: finack on June 03, 2011, 01:26:24 AM
i wish you people would stop with the 'speculating on bitcoins in the current block chain is the opportunity of a lifetime' nonsense. it doesn't just provoke negative reactions; it provokes legitimate negative reactions because what you're doing when you say that is functionally turning it into a scam. '

I think the problem here is that if you break into a boiler room and say "jesus, you people sound like pump and dump artists" they are just going to shrug and get back on the phone.

Point blank, some of the regular HN spammers like the one protesting too much in this thread (just as a for example) don't give a shit how they're coming across to the majority there as long as they are getting some traction with somebody.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: goatpig on June 03, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
Point blank, some of the regular HN spammers like the one protesting too much in this thread (just as a for example) don't give a shit how they're coming across to the majority there as long as they are getting some traction with somebody.

Nevertheless, the spamming is retarded.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: unk on June 03, 2011, 02:37:43 AM
A legitimate Bitcoin detractor wouldn't be holding BTC, nor bother hijacking a thread instead of making his point loud and clear in his own anti Bitcoin thread, let alone spew bullshit on individual users or pretend he's loaded with some BTC that he won't unload cuz hey the price ain't fair... really? Is that how dry your "anti Bitcoinism" is right now? Does it get more and more comical as the price reaches new highs?

your (frankly silly) mistake is that you think i'm a bitcoin detractor. nothing could be further from the truth.

that said, this thread is amusing to me because, probably not coincidentally, you, john doe, and moa are literally the three people on this forum who i've found, for about a year, to be the least sensitive writers and the least worthwhile to read.

i read the forum for months before creating an account, and when i did so, it was on just the slimmest hope that the forum software might let me filter out posts from the three of you. that was literally my original motivation for registering an account, and it was you three in particular i wanted to block.

your responses in this thread are indicative of the extremely frustrating way you narrowly think and respond to basically everything, missing any hint of nuance or reflection. sorry to be rude about it, but it's at least somewhat nicer than 'see you in hell', 'bwahahaha', and the assertion that i'm anti-bitcoin. you're representative of the worst sort of element on internet forums, and this one is considerably worse because of your involvement.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on June 03, 2011, 03:13:19 AM

... just us three then? We are the worst inter-netters ever? I'm glad you find us "amusing to you",  and yet "extremely frustrating".

You signed up just to filter us out and yet here you are, posting quite liberally, amongst your hated "worst ever" fellows. Welcome to your personal hell that you just built for yourself. I think I will continue to miss every one of your "nuances or reflections" .. please do block us out, the scroll button works on your computer?


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: goatpig on June 03, 2011, 11:59:23 AM
your (frankly silly) mistake is that you think i'm a bitcoin detractor. nothing could be further from the truth.

Well then that's some tough Christian love you got yourself for Bitcoins xD

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Personal attack, random nonsensical ranting, and other stuff. Good job making a fool out of yourself.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: kiba on June 03, 2011, 04:57:13 PM
This thread is getting rather nasty. Please keep your tones civil. No personal attacks.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: JohnDoe on June 03, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
@unk: So you won't be donating your bitcoins then? Well now we know for sure, unk does not walk the talk.

Btw, how's your superior block chain going? You said you were too busy even to make your trivial change but it looks like you have plenty of spare time to read and post in the forum, so maybe you now have enough free time to create it.


Title: Re: You Guys Are Idiots... (To whoever keeps spamming HN)
Post by: Helge44 on February 17, 2018, 09:37:12 PM
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