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Bitcoin => Mining => Topic started by: Snake X on June 03, 2011, 12:38:34 AM



Title: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: Snake X on June 03, 2011, 12:38:34 AM
Is there such a thing? To the maintainers of the official bitcoin miner: Can you please consider making the mining application 64 bit and utilize all 4 cores that are on my i5-2500k? I would like to be able to run this program the fastest I can possible. Thanks


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: bleedkira on June 03, 2011, 12:42:55 AM
http://ufasoft.com/open/bitcoin/
You still won't mine very fast with a CPU.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: Snake X on June 03, 2011, 12:54:41 AM
nonono I mean as in a solo mining tool, not a pool miner. Sorry


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: MoonShadow on June 03, 2011, 12:56:27 AM
Doesn't matter.  CPU mining died months ago.  There is no CPU arch that can come close to the worst of the available GPGPU's.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: goatpig on June 03, 2011, 01:00:11 AM
nonono I mean as in a solo mining tool, not a pool miner. Sorry

Solo mining tool or pool miner, it's all the same. The only difference is if you link the miner to a pool or your own instance of bitcoind.exe

As for the 4way SSE2 CPU miner going around, it performs SSE operations on 128bit integers, so I'm pretty sure that'll fill your 64 bit bus.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: Snake X on June 03, 2011, 01:02:24 AM
oh ok. what do you mean it died months ago though? Is it really just absolutely pointless to run a solo bitcoin miner? :S


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: MoonShadow on June 03, 2011, 01:04:18 AM
No, it's pointless to run a cpu miner, because the efficiency is so poor compared to that of gpu mining that there is practically no way to break even.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: Snake X on June 03, 2011, 01:17:08 AM
Ok, at the moment I run a GTX 460 Hawk that runs about at 915 MHz so I can do some other things. This allows me to be at about 55 Mhash's. If I bought another GTX 460 OC card, and SLI them, would that make any profit at all, or just a waste of money?

edit: also, is it better to mine in smaller pools such as bitcoins.lc or bigger pools such as slush's pool (I currently mine in that one)?


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: danuker on June 03, 2011, 05:13:30 PM
I think mining bitcoins is more expensive than the electricity you're using.
55 MH/s will give you circa 0.11 BTC/24h according to deepbit stats (Though it may take a long time until you get the block)
How expensive is electricity in your area, and how much of it does your computer use?


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: benx009 on June 03, 2011, 08:43:55 PM
Sell your NVIDIA card and get a used HD 5870 (you can find some for as low as $150 off craigslist, if you're lucky... I got mine months ago for $175).  ATI cards kill NVIDIA cards for mining.  I'm pulling off 360Mh/s with mine (or .75BTC/day according to deepbit stats).


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: Jack of Diamonds on June 03, 2011, 08:48:46 PM
CPU mining costs more than electricity in general. It's not viable at all. On an i5 you will probably be consuming 90-95w and generating a couple mhash/s. It's a lose/lose.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: keybaud on June 03, 2011, 09:15:39 PM
It will take about 5 years to CPU mine a block at the current difficulty.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: kokjo on June 03, 2011, 09:19:53 PM
edit: also, is it better to mine in smaller pools such as bitcoins.lc or bigger pools such as slush's pool (I currently mine in that one)?
it makes no dirrents for you.
but it best for the bitcoin community, if you choses the small pool, so we don't get a monopoly on mining.
an attack against the network can be done if you have 50% of the hashing power.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on June 03, 2011, 09:43:11 PM
also, is it better to mine in smaller pools such as bitcoins.lc or bigger pools such as slush's pool (I currently mine in that one)?
I switched to bitcoins.lc just because there is no fee and it pays less often. Slush's algorithm to reward later submissions with bigger value then first round entries meant by sheer luck I would get way too random results.


Title: Re: multi-core 64 bit bitcoin generator?
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on June 03, 2011, 10:18:12 PM
Slush's algorithm to reward later submissions with bigger value then first round entries meant by sheer luck I would get way too random results.
I agree!
I've been doing some pool shopping lately.
Deepbit  Do to the number of miners, your "cut" of a block is smaller/more frequent, *usually* fees.
Slush's  Roughly 16hr wait to validate BTC, larger/slightly less often reward.
This applies to all the smaller pools:
Infrequent rewards, but are usually much larger. You could be mining for 2 days before you get a block! That block may yield 2BTC+.

I've checked my 24hr averages from 4 pools (2 small/2 large), and what I see, is that whichever pool you go with, your rewards vary, very little, and balance out over time.