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Title: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 08:54:04 AM
So this is the idea of my game:
-1 vs 1 gambling on soccer
- Available bets are: first corner(team), first foul(team) and first card(team)
- Bet amounts are: 0.005BTC.0.01BTC and 0.05BTC
- If u bet against others, u both need to bet same amount.
- If a player wins, he will get 190% return of his money.
- U can submit a game here!
For example player 1 bets 0.05BTC and player two bets also 0.05BTC, and player 2 wins, he gets 0,095BTC

Every bet will get an unique deposit address, if u dont trust me we can use escrow.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: Bagus Tubagus on August 10, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
where sites do you will use for bet soccer?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 09:01:29 AM
where sites do you will use for bet soccer?

I will use flashscore to keep things updated but I ain't using other sites than that. This is a gambling game on soccer where u get much higher percentage return than any sportsbook website.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: Hexcoin on August 10, 2015, 09:05:42 AM
where sites do you will use for bet soccer?

I will use flashscore to keep things updated but I ain't using other sites than that. This is a gambling game on soccer where u get much higher percentage return than any sportsbook website.

some sportsbook site sometimes offers odds 3x or higher, what will you do in those cases?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: bajing on August 10, 2015, 09:08:36 AM
no website,no proof how did i know this legit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
where sites do you will use for bet soccer?

I will use flashscore to keep things updated but I ain't using other sites than that. This is a gambling game on soccer where u get much higher percentage return than any sportsbook website.

some sportsbook site sometimes offers odds 3x or higher, what will you do in those cases?
I don't look at odds on this game,for example u make a bet and think team a will win, but someone else thinks team b wins and bet on that. And team a wins, u get 190% return of ur bet.

But what you are saying is kinda correct, this only goes with matches of team who have about same skills/ level.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: horace0812 on August 10, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
where sites do you will use for bet soccer?

I will use flashscore to keep things updated but I ain't using other sites than that. This is a gambling game on soccer where u get much higher percentage return than any sportsbook website.

some sportsbook site sometimes offers odds 3x or higher, what will you do in those cases?
I don't look at odds on this game,for example u make a bet and think team a will win, but someone else thinks team b wins and bet on that. And team a wins, u get 190% return of ur bet.

But what you are saying is kinda correct, this only goes with matches of team who have about same skills/ level.

it is hard to be done, as mentioned above,
for example, Match A over / under 2.5 goals,
if over 2.5 goals with a odds x1.90 above,
who will submit their bet to you?
 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
where sites do you will use for bet soccer?

I will use flashscore to keep things updated but I ain't using other sites than that. This is a gambling game on soccer where u get much higher percentage return than any sportsbook website.

some sportsbook site sometimes offers odds 3x or higher, what will you do in those cases?
I don't look at odds on this game,for example u make a bet and think team a will win, but someone else thinks team b wins and bet on that. And team a wins, u get 190% return of ur bet.

But what you are saying is kinda correct, this only goes with matches of team who have about same skills/ level.

it is hard to be done, as mentioned above,
for example, Match A over / under 2.5 goals,
if over 2.5 goals with a odds x1.90 above,
who will submit their bet to you?
 
Other people on the forum that,think somethink different, mayby it is me or anyone else on this forum. But in order to a approved bet, 2 people are required.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: marioantonini on August 10, 2015, 10:20:17 AM
For under/over as you can find equal odds? in many cases, odds are under 1.7 over 2.0 and similar.

and second , you necessity of site


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 10:21:44 AM
For under/over as you can find equal odds? in many cases, odds are under 1.7 over 2.0 and similar.

and second , you necessity of site
I just want to make a pvp bitcoin gambling thread, i dont know how to make the site, and I dont think it is that nessecary.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: Bardman on August 10, 2015, 10:36:12 AM
Do you mean playing soccer online 1 vs 1? Because im not understanding exactly what you mean, pvp soccer would be a good idea but hard to make and to sustain since it would need a lot of active players to work


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: Falconer on August 10, 2015, 10:40:56 AM
I'm not really sure people will be attracted with your method, which its hard to find two people who want to bet each others, and the odds 1.95 for the bet seems not fair enough compared by gambling sites. E.g match between Barcelona vs Catania (just as example), which I'm sure the odds for Catania is much higher than 1.95. Then with your method, surely people prefer Barca then, and no one will bet on Catania  :)  What would you do then?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: patt0 on August 10, 2015, 10:48:58 AM
I'm not sure people will be attracted by this because odds most of the time are not even, so someone will be winning less than he should if he made a normal bet on a sportsbook. Why did you choose that market and not something else, like first team getting a corner or something like that, that is close to 50/50.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 12:19:52 PM
I'm not sure people will be attracted by this because odds most of the time are not even, so someone will be winning less than he should if he made a normal bet on a sportsbook. Why did you choose that market and not something else, like first team getting a corner or something like that, that is close to 50/50.
Yes, that actually seems like a good idea.

I will make a poll with a few options, and u can choose what u like the most.

Poll is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1149076.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1149076.new#new)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: rodrigobitcoin on August 10, 2015, 12:23:37 PM
If your odds bet is the same of the other reputable betting site with bitcoin, why people must risk to bet with your system ? You use odds more high?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 10, 2015, 12:25:23 PM
If your odds bet is the same of the other reputable betting site with bitcoin, why people must risk to bet with your system ? You use odds more high?
I adjusted my game idea, so no casino has this i think. Please look at the poll and you will understand, and vote what u like the most.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: Blawpaw on August 11, 2015, 12:03:30 AM
You have a nice and simple idea there! if you had a simple site to support it it could be even better.
You should invest in designing a site just for that!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 11, 2015, 12:07:55 AM
You have a nice and simple idea there! if you had a simple site to support it it could be even better.
You should invest in designing a site just for that!
I will try and make a simple website. On the website i will display the matches were u can bet on. I dont think i can make the payments automatic, so I will do it manually. Also u need to post ur predictions here, or other people can bet on same thing, and that is not the meaning of this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: patt0 on August 11, 2015, 11:07:39 AM
You will be the one choosing the games? I though anyone could choose a game and place a bet, and then just wait for someone to bet against him.

I think you could make it even more "exotic", and allow payers to "become" a bookie themselves.
Something like this:

I say that in the game Team A vs Team B
Team A will have the first corner and the first ball on the bar and I will bet 'x' btc on it at 'y' odds.
And that will be on your website waiting for someone to match it.

You can make it simple and limit the options of course, just saying that it would be fun, because like this people could make any kind of fun bets that they are just not allowed to do on a regular sportsbook.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: joust on August 11, 2015, 12:24:11 PM
You will be the one choosing the games? I though anyone could choose a game and place a bet, and then just wait for someone to bet against him.

I think you could make it even more "exotic", and allow payers to "become" a bookie themselves.
Something like this:

I say that in the game Team A vs Team B
Team A will have the first corner and the first ball on the bar and I will bet 'x' btc on it at 'y' odds.
And that will be on your website waiting for someone to match it.

You can make it simple and limit the options of course, just saying that it would be fun, because like this people could make any kind of fun bets that they are just not allowed to do on a regular sportsbook.
I will look into it. First i try without website, becasue it has not any people joined, then it is all work for nothing.


I made a decision, u can bet on first foul(team) and on first corner(team). Post any bets below on a match u want to bet.

First foul is not very predictable so it is like a coin flip. And first corner is more predictable because it is thenone who is playing aggresive.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Soccer Games
Post by: patt0 on August 11, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
You will be the one choosing the games? I though anyone could choose a game and place a bet, and then just wait for someone to bet against him.

I think you could make it even more "exotic", and allow payers to "become" a bookie themselves.
Something like this:

I say that in the game Team A vs Team B
Team A will have the first corner and the first ball on the bar and I will bet 'x' btc on it at 'y' odds.
And that will be on your website waiting for someone to match it.

You can make it simple and limit the options of course, just saying that it would be fun, because like this people could make any kind of fun bets that they are just not allowed to do on a regular sportsbook.
I will look into it. First i try without website, becasue it has not any people joined, then it is all work for nothing.


I made a decision, u can bet on first foul(team) and on first corner(team). Post any bets below on a match u want to bet.

First foul is not very predictable so it is like a coin flip. And first corner is more predictable because it is thenone who is playing aggresive.



Yes those 2 seem the most adequate to your initial idea. If it gets popular, then new "fun" and more "exotic" additions would probably make your game something really "fresh" in the market.


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: joust on August 12, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
Hello everybody, I have updated the OP, let's get started with this! I explained everything in the OP, but if you have a question, feel free to ask!


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: joust on August 12, 2015, 11:19:32 AM
GAMES FOR TODAY:
No game yet submitted!
(Submit you own game please)
Real Sociedad vs Panathinaikos (friendly)
FC Groningen vs FC Twente (Eredivisie)
Crewe vs Preston North End
Oldham vs Middlesborough
Portsmouth vs Derby County
Active Bets:

None Yet

Bet Options:
-First Foul
-First Corner
-First Card


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 12, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
GAMES FOR TODAY:
No game yet submitted!
(Submit you own game please)

Active Bets:

None Yet

Bet Options:
-First Foul
-First Corner
-First Card


Real Sociedad vs Panathinaikos (friendly)
FC Groningen vs FC Twente (Eredivisie)

There's not many good matches tonight. I won't be betting on those games, I just thought I'd try & help if you were struggling to find some games to feature.

There are some English Capital One Cup 1st Round matches but I doubt anybody will be interested in them. Here they are any way -

Crewe vs Preston North End
Oldham vs Middlesborough
Portsmouth vs Derby County

Kick off times can be seen on flashscore.com & livescore.com


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: joust on August 12, 2015, 01:55:42 PM
GAMES FOR TODAY:
No game yet submitted!
(Submit you own game please)

Active Bets:

None Yet

Bet Options:
-First Foul
-First Corner
-First Card


Real Sociedad vs Panathinaikos (friendly)
FC Groningen vs FC Twente (Eredivisie)

There's not many good matches tonight. I won't be betting on those games, I just thought I'd try & help if you were struggling to find some games to feature.

There are some English Capital One Cup 1st Round matches but I doubt anybody will be interested in them. Here they are any way -

Crewe vs Preston North End
Oldham vs Middlesborough
Portsmouth vs Derby County

Kick off times can be seen on flashscore.com & livescore.com
thank you for submitting these games, i updated my post above. I think that people wil bet when it is saturday/sunday, because then are they normal league matches like eredivisie,premier league and more.


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: Falconer on August 12, 2015, 03:26:51 PM
Do you act as escrow too? I think you need an escrow to make sure the loser will pay the winner. And how do you organize the game since its the game 1 vs 1? Do you make any list? or let the participant seek his opponent himself?


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: joust on August 12, 2015, 04:25:07 PM
Do you act as escrow too? I think you need an escrow to make sure the loser will pay the winner. And how do you organize the game since its the game 1 vs 1? Do you make any list? or let the participant seek his opponent himself?
I will hold the funds, i make a list of participants and match them against other player, or you can tell me to eho you want to play and for how much you want to play.


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: Falconer on August 12, 2015, 05:08:57 PM
Do you act as escrow too? I think you need an escrow to make sure the loser will pay the winner. And how do you organize the game since its the game 1 vs 1? Do you make any list? or let the participant seek his opponent himself?
I will hold the funds, i make a list of participants and match them against other player, or you can tell me to eho you want to play and for how much you want to play.
So what will you do if the amount of participants in the both sides are not balanced? Do you want to play yourself against the remain player who doesnt get opponent?


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: joust on August 12, 2015, 05:12:47 PM
Do you act as escrow too? I think you need an escrow to make sure the loser will pay the winner. And how do you organize the game since its the game 1 vs 1? Do you make any list? or let the participant seek his opponent himself?
I will hold the funds, i make a list of participants and match them against other player, or you can tell me to eho you want to play and for how much you want to play.
So what will you do if the amount of participants in the both sides are not balanced? Do you want to play yourself against the remain player who doesnt get opponent?
If i think the bet will win, I can bet on it myself. Not today, i am out of btc because of barcelona last night, they wasted my BTC, but dont worry ill get over that :)


Title: Re: BTC Soccer Game STARTED[first foul/corner/card] get 190% return!
Post by: Falconer on August 13, 2015, 02:15:46 PM
Do you act as escrow too? I think you need an escrow to make sure the loser will pay the winner. And how do you organize the game since its the game 1 vs 1? Do you make any list? or let the participant seek his opponent himself?
I will hold the funds, i make a list of participants and match them against other player, or you can tell me to eho you want to play and for how much you want to play.
So what will you do if the amount of participants in the both sides are not balanced? Do you want to play yourself against the remain player who doesnt get opponent?
If i think the bet will win, I can bet on it myself. Not today, i am out of btc because of barcelona last night, they wasted my BTC, but dont worry ill get over that :)
Same with me, that match have taken high amount of my btc, damn barca defenders. As Real Madrid fan, I wont risk my bitcoin on barca again. Anyway I will bet again this weekend and visit this thread if I have got some btc.