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Title: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 10:33:43 AM Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent.
The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0) (well worth a quick read) neatly outlines the gist of the agreement and why it is good for us and the world. The signatories are not people unknown to the scientific community. On the contrary, they are mostly physicists with a list of credentials that won't quit, like ... Quote The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age. We can listen to people who are well qualified to comment on the agreement, or a raving bunch of political hacks whose only interest is to wreck Obama's presidency, and damn the damage that may result. Seems like an easy choice. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: redandblack on August 10, 2015, 10:35:52 AM Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent. The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0) (well worth a quick read) neatly outlines the gist of the agreement and why it is good for us and the world. The signatories are not people unknown to the scientific community. On the contrary, they are mostly physicists with a list of credentials that won't quit, like ... Quote The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age. We can listen to people who are well qualified to comment on the agreement, or a raving bunch of political hacks whose only interest is to wreck Obama's presidency, and damn the damage that may result. Seems like an easy choice. Sigh! Physicists generally know ZILCH about high level politics and how governments function and about why wars start and why they are engaged in as they are and so forth and so on. One might as well listen to Obama's campaign coach instead, "Okay now sir, smile and then LIE and then smile some more!" Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 10:37:04 AM Sigh! Physicists generally know ZILCH about high level politics and how governments function and about why wars start and why they are engaged in as they are and so forth and so on. One might as well listen to Obama's campaign coach instead, "Okay now sir, smile and then LIE and then smile some more!" This post is primarily about the Iran nuke agreement and whether or not it is credible from a scientific standpoint, something these gentlemen are well qualified to discuss. In their judgment, it IS a decent agreement and they outline why some of the criticism is off-base (ok, just wrong). The politics of the issue should hinge on the substance of it, and whether or not it's workable. I trust you will take some time to read what they have to say. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: rio3232 on August 10, 2015, 10:37:41 AM Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent. Chuck Schumer is trying wreck Obama's presidency? The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0) (well worth a quick read) neatly outlines the gist of the agreement and why it is good for us and the world. The signatories are not people unknown to the scientific community. On the contrary, they are mostly physicists with a list of credentials that won't quit, like ... Quote The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age. We can listen to people who are well qualified to comment on the agreement, or a raving bunch of political hacks whose only interest is to wreck Obama's presidency, and damn the damage that may result. Seems like an easy choice. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: redandblack on August 10, 2015, 10:38:26 AM This post is primarily about the Iran nuke agreement and whether or not it is credible from a scientific standpoint, something these gentlemen are well qualified to discuss. In their judgment, it IS a decent agreement and they outline why some of the criticism is off-base (ok, just wrong). The politics of the issue should hinge on the substance of it, and whether or not it's workable. I trust you will take some time to read what they have to say. I've already read what genuinely credible experts have written on the subject and so why would I read what a bunch of scientists gathered up by the Obama administration have written FOR the Dem Party on the subject? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: krenare on August 10, 2015, 10:39:28 AM The people who live closest to Iran, and know them best hate this deal (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey). This article seems to be saying that scientists 1000 miles away feel pretty good about this? This doesn't really make any sense to me. How do the scientists in a bunker in the antarctic feel? Shouldn't they be the deciding vote?
Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: little.cheekie on August 10, 2015, 10:42:30 AM Really.....this (supposedly) "two page letter" is proof positive of a "good for us agreement"?
Too bad liberals have never read and/or forgotten the history of any/all "agreements". Most have been broken by the offending party and those that tried to maintain civility usually were damaged by that offender. But, I'm sure since Obama was involved, history will change.......huh? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: Blackeye433 on August 10, 2015, 10:43:22 AM 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal and Schumer calls it out as garbage.
Obama is a treasonous POS. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 10:44:03 AM Chuck Schumer is trying wreck Obama's presidency? No, not really, but he does have his own political groups to pander to.Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 10:44:58 AM I've already read what genuinely credible experts have written on the subject and so why would I read what a bunch of scientists gathered up by the Obama administration have written FOR the Dem Party on the subject? Dr. Garwin and Dr. Holt were the main organizers behind the group that wrote and signed the letter, according to two of the letter’s signatories. These are the people who've advised Congress and presidents over the years on this issue. Their contribution to this discussion, as I noted, is to speak mostly from the science view, not necessarily the political one: The body of the letter praises the technical features of the Iran accord and offers tacit rebuttals to recent criticisms on such issues as verification and provisions for investigating what specialists see as evidence of Iran’s past research on nuclear arms. It also focuses on whether Iran could use the accord as diplomatic cover to pursue nuclear weapons in secret. The deal’s plan for resolving disputes, the letter says, greatly mitigates “concerns about clandestine activities.” It hails the 24-day cap on Iranian delays to site investigations as “unprecedented,” adding that the agreement “will allow effective challenge inspection for the suspected activities of greatest concern.” If you've found that what they've written is not correct, post the link. If you want to wig off to why the agreement didn't include return of Americans in Iran or something to do with funding radical groups outside Iran, I'll only point out that is not what it's about. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: Adamsux on August 10, 2015, 10:47:05 AM Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent. Scientists now are qualified to know a good deal? And they are ultra qualified to know who we should trust? These esteemed scientists have studied the deal and think its ok that our billions will fund terrorism?The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0) (well worth a quick read) neatly outlines the gist of the agreement and why it is good for us and the world. The signatories are not people unknown to the scientific community. On the contrary, they are mostly physicists with a list of credentials that won't quit, like ... Quote The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age. We can listen to people who are well qualified to comment on the agreement, or a raving bunch of political hacks whose only interest is to wreck Obama's presidency, and damn the damage that may result. Seems like an easy choice. I'm sorry....but scientist worship where they know all things is a bit like a cult religion. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: rio3232 on August 10, 2015, 10:48:56 AM Dr. Garwin and Dr. Holt were the main organizers behind the group that wrote and signed the letter, according to two of the letter’s signatories. These are the people who've advised Congress and presidents over the years on this issue. Their contribution to this discussion, as I noted, is to speak mostly from the science view, not necessarily the political one: The body of the letter praises the technical features of the Iran accord and offers tacit rebuttals to recent criticisms on such issues as verification and provisions for investigating what specialists see as evidence of Iran’s past research on nuclear arms. It also focuses on whether Iran could use the accord as diplomatic cover to pursue nuclear weapons in secret. The deal’s plan for resolving disputes, the letter says, greatly mitigates “concerns about clandestine activities.” It hails the 24-day cap on Iranian delays to site investigations as “unprecedented,” adding that the agreement “will allow effective challenge inspection for the suspected activities of greatest concern.” If you've found that what they've written is not correct, post the link. If you want to wig off to why the agreement didn't include return of Americans in Iran or something to do with funding radical groups outside Iran, I'll only point out that is not what it's about. Considering he is a top D what "groups" does he pander to? He is in line to be the top D in congress.... Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: KriszDev on August 10, 2015, 10:49:47 AM Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent. The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0) (well worth a quick read) neatly outlines the gist of the agreement and why it is good for us and the world. The signatories are not people unknown to the scientific community. On the contrary, they are mostly physicists with a list of credentials that won't quit, like ... Quote The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age. We can listen to people who are well qualified to comment on the agreement, or a raving bunch of political hacks whose only interest is to wreck Obama's presidency, and damn the damage that may result. Seems like an easy choice. Obama is wrecking his own presidency all by himself. Excuse us for telling you "we told you so". Secondly you don't need to be a scientist to grasp the concept that allowing Iran nuclear weaponry is the exact wrong thing to do, you just need a functioning half a brain. Lastly, please tell us how many of the 29 are currently or have received federal tax dollars from the Obama administration. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 10:50:32 AM Scientists now are qualified to know a good deal? And they are ultra qualified to know who we should trust? These esteemed scientists have studied the deal and think its ok that our billions will fund terrorism? Please read the links I gave you, especially the letter. It should provide you with the answers you're looking for. I'm sorry....but scientist worship where they know all things is a bit like a cult religion. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: monas on August 10, 2015, 10:51:02 AM Probably the some ones that believe in global warming. Being a scientist does NOT make you politically smart.
Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: shevon on August 10, 2015, 10:52:11 AM Sigh! Physicists generally know ZILCH about high level politics and how governments function and about why wars start and why they are engaged in as they are and so forth and so on. One might as well listen to Obama's campaign coach instead, "Okay now sir, smile and then LIE and then smile some more!" Yet this brilliant neurosurgeon is a right wing darling - go figure http://1f0hrf3k9u4d4eiecjguy0r1bn5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ben-Carson-croip.jpg Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: abasin on August 10, 2015, 10:53:12 AM Chuck Schumer is trying wreck Obama's presidency? Schumer is a good guy but when it comes to Israel, his loyalty is to his religion, not his nationality. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: jeckman on August 10, 2015, 10:54:08 AM Please read the links I gave you, especially the letter. It should provide you with the answers you're looking for. So many parallels to Atlas Shrugged...it's amazing. "Please read the links I gave you..." Even down to the begging to join in the failed cause, using phonies from science and academia to justify their abysmal and destructive actions. The smart always can see through this kind of smoke screen....not so much for the weak of education. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: arul.BP on August 10, 2015, 10:54:59 AM Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent. It does not matter what is in the agreement, if it Makes sense, or if it actually does what it is intended to do...the deal was dead before it was even agreed upon by Obama and Iran. GOP opposition was obvious from the Get Go by the complaints before it was even dry, let alone the fact that BiBi is sticking his fingers into our political decisions and has more sway with the GOP than their own President.The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/08/08/world/document-iranletteraug2015.html?_r=0) (well worth a quick read) neatly outlines the gist of the agreement and why it is good for us and the world. The signatories are not people unknown to the scientific community. On the contrary, they are mostly physicists with a list of credentials that won't quit, like ... Quote The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age. We can listen to people who are well qualified to comment on the agreement, or a raving bunch of political hacks whose only interest is to wreck Obama's presidency, and damn the damage that may result. Seems like an easy choice. We are going to go to War pretty soon. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: abasin on August 10, 2015, 10:55:58 AM Yet this brilliant neurosurgeon is a right wing darling - go figure http://1f0hrf3k9u4d4eiecjguy0r1bn5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ben-Carson-croip.jpg Not really. He was a useful tool to use while Obama was potus, to create the illusion that repubs cared about blacks, but with Obama out of the picture, his value has evaporated. I feel sad for how the cons used him and Cain and Steele for the past several years. It was disgustingly transparent what they were up to. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: rio3232 on August 10, 2015, 10:56:48 AM Schumer is a good guy but when it comes to Israel, his loyalty is to his religion, not his nationality. So do you believe the OP that he is trying to wreck Obama? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: Congtyn on August 10, 2015, 10:57:53 AM Sigh! Physicists generally know ZILCH about high level politics and how governments function and about why wars start and why they are engaged in as they are and so forth and so on. One might as well listen to Obama's campaign coach instead, "Okay now sir, smile and then LIE and then smile some more!" Are you a high level physicist or a high level politician? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: rio3232 on August 10, 2015, 10:58:45 AM Not really. He was a useful tool to use while Obama was potus, to create the illusion that repubs cared about blacks, but with Obama out of the picture, his value has evaporated. I feel sad for how the cons used him and Cain and Steele for the past several years. It was disgustingly transparent what they were up to. One of these days you will figure out that the true racists are those that attack people as tokens just because they disagree with them... Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: Adamsux on August 10, 2015, 11:00:04 AM Please read the links I gave you, especially the letter. It should provide you with the answers you're looking for. Nope it doesn't. Nothing in the link demonstrates how these most-likely Democrat leaning and liberal progressive-oriented scientists are qualified to say that we can trust Iran with this deal. I didn't see anything about how billions funding terrorism is a good thing.I think its hilarious that they are brought up as credible sources in something like this. It sure hurts the Global Warming agenda..... Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 11:01:08 AM Obama is wrecking his own presidency all by himself. Excuse us for telling you "we told you so". I'll take a short detour off topic here to point out that the only thing Republicans have told me (or anyone) since Obama was first elected is that they intended to totally wreck his presidency with the understanding if that messed up the country, that would be ok with them. Then they went and did their best to do it. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 11:03:19 AM Secondly you don't need to be a scientist to grasp the concept that allowing Iran nuclear weaponry is the exact wrong thing to do, you just need a functioning half a brain. Iran is not being allowed nuclear weaponry. That is the purpose of the agreement. And if you want to say that it will have no effect on them working on or obtaining nukes, you'll have to have a few more facts to round out your political fantasies. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: peterson33 on August 10, 2015, 11:04:27 AM I've already read what genuinely credible experts have written on the subject and so why would I read what a bunch of scientists gathered up by the Obama administration have written FOR the Dem Party on the subject? Most of the "genuinely credible experts" are for the deal.The exception are the neo cons. You know, the guys who said the Iraq war would last six months and be self financing and that there was no tension between Sunni and Shia muslims. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 11:07:36 AM Nope it doesn't. Nothing in the link demonstrates how these most-likely Democrat leaning and liberal progressive-oriented scientists are qualified to say that we can trust Iran with this deal. We don't trust Iran. Nobody does. That's a given and why the agreement was made the way it was. Your statement exhibits a total lack of knowledge on the subject. Quote I didn't see anything about how billions funding terrorism is a good thing. That has zip to do with Iran and nukes and is not part of the agreement. Never was, AFAIK. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 11:08:12 AM I think its hilarious that they are brought up as credible sources in something like this. It sure hurts the Global Warming agenda..... Why do eminently qualified nuclear scientists commenting on a subject well within the range of their expertise have diddlysquat to do with global warming? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: redandblack on August 10, 2015, 11:09:22 AM Most of the "genuinely credible experts" are for the deal. The exception are the neo cons. You know, the guys who said the Iraq war would last six months and be self financing and that there was no tension between Sunni and Shia muslims. Yes, and I was correct about them as well. I knew that they were wrong, which is why I endlessly posted against the Iraq War Venture and AGAINST staying in Afghanistan, because as a student of history I knew how it would almost inevitably turn out. I am also correct about this bad 'deal' with Iran. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: rio3232 on August 10, 2015, 11:10:08 AM Most of the "genuinely credible experts" are for the deal. The exception are the neo cons. You know, the guys who said the Iraq war would last six months and be self financing and that there was no tension between Sunni and Shia muslims. Schumer and Engel are Neo-Cons? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: redandblack on August 10, 2015, 11:11:10 AM Yet this brilliant neurosurgeon is a right wing darling - go figure http://1f0hrf3k9u4d4eiecjguy0r1bn5.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ben-Carson-croip.jpg He's a physicist pimping for the Obama administration? Who knew! Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: redandblack on August 10, 2015, 11:11:54 AM Are you a high level physicist or a high level politician? If only high level physicist or high level politicians were the only ones who knew anything of importance or could use their brain for something other than a hat rack then all upper level politicians would have to have a degree in physics. More to the point one would be obliged to declare high level politicians G.W. Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld . . . correct. Oh my! Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: peterson33 on August 10, 2015, 11:14:25 AM Yes, and I was correct about them as well. I knew that they were wrong, which is why I endlessly posted against the Iraq War Venture and AGAINST staying in Afghanistan, because as a student of history I knew how it would almost inevitably turn out. I am also correct about this bad 'deal' with Iran. No, you aren't. This deal is supported by every major power on the planet. If it fails, the international sanctions that Obama got put in place (after Bush was unable to convince anyone to go along with him) will crumble and Iran will not only be free from any responsibility to submit to inspections, but it will have considerably less economic pressure on it to do so as well. I cannot guarantee whether this deal will prevent Iran from getting a bomb eventually. Iran is surrounded on all four sides by enemies with atomic weapons (Russia, Pakistan, Isreal and the United States), It has every reason to nuke up, a reality that will be a certainty if the right wing and Isreal destroy this deal. The best opportunity we have is to get Iran to open up to the outside world. It isn't a guarantee. But we've had thirty years of the opposite approach and it hasn't worked. Conservatives will yell about crowds chanting "death to America" and then conveniently forget that a US Presidential candidate said "Bomb, bomb,bomb,......bomb, bomb Iran" a sentiment you see here (and no doubt in the AM talk radio sewer) every single day. It's odd that you seem to take validation from the exact same group of experts that claimed the Iraq was a good idea. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: Congtyn on August 10, 2015, 11:15:09 AM Iran is a big trading partner with Iran and they enjoy a pretty good relationship, however KSA spends tons of money on aid to Pakistan and in a pinch Pakistan would definitely side with Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: shevon on August 10, 2015, 11:16:42 AM He's a physicist pimping for the Obama administration? Who knew! Doesn't matter - according to you, physicists are incapable of understanding high level politics and policy. Yet you are very comfortable with a neurosurgeon being president. Hypocrisy, much ? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: Loqkani07 on August 10, 2015, 11:17:23 AM Oh Goody. First the Left denounces all sources of moral authority in the universe and then they adopt the mantle of "science" to claim their agenda has the moral authority that none with a sound mind can reject.
So, they gave a thumbs up on the Iran deal... eh? What do they think about sugar beet subsidies? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: redandblack on August 10, 2015, 11:18:46 AM Doesn't matter - according to you, physicists are incapable of understanding high level politics and policy. Yet you are very comfortable with a neurosurgeon being president. Hypocrisy, much ? Am I? Did I say that? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: umzza on August 10, 2015, 11:19:49 AM I've already read what genuinely credible experts have written on the subject and so why would I read what a bunch of scientists gathered up by the Obama administration have written FOR the Dem Party on the subject? I'd like to see what Government Grants those "scientists" are getting for 2016. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: godlyitems on August 10, 2015, 11:21:48 AM Conservatives will yell about crowds chanting "death to America" and then conveniently forget that a US Presidential candidate said "Bomb, bomb,bomb,......bomb, bomb Iran" a sentiment you see here (and no doubt in the AM talk radio sewer) every single day. If you watched the seven Republican second tier candidates have their debate Thursday afternoon, Sen. Graham came out very strongly in favor of invading Iran led by American troops with Arab allies, supposedly to stop their march toward a nuke and teach them a lesson about exporting terrorism. He'd also invade Syria at the same time, but that would be pretty much a side war. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: rio3232 on August 10, 2015, 11:23:16 AM If you watched the seven Republican second tier candidates have their debate Thursday afternoon, Sen. Graham came out very strongly in favor of invading Iran led by American troops with Arab allies, supposedly to stop their march toward a nuke and teach them a lesson about exporting terrorism. He'd also invade Syria at the same time, but that would be pretty much a side war. Of course he did he is a warmonger... But dont forget this same guy stood right with Obama to arm these "Rebels" to being with. 2 sides of the same coin. Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: KriszDev on August 10, 2015, 11:24:10 AM I'll take a short detour off topic here to point out that the only thing Republicans have told me (or anyone) since Obama was first elected is that they intended to totally wreck his presidency with the understanding if that messed up the country, that would be ok with them. Then they went and did their best to do it. If you think Iran isnt going to obtain nuclear weapons through this deal...I have magic beans for sale that you will be interested in. Ill even throw in some cure all elixr! Only three easy payments of 49.99 Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: tiffany8 on August 10, 2015, 11:25:06 AM Well that settles it ! Its a good deal because 29 scientist said so!
Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: koshgel on August 11, 2015, 07:09:58 AM I'll take a short detour off topic here to point out that the only thing Republicans have told me (or anyone) since Obama was first elected is that they intended to totally wreck his presidency with the understanding if that messed up the country, that would be ok with them. Then they went and did their best to do it. If you think Iran isnt going to obtain nuclear weapons through this deal...I have magic beans for sale that you will be interested in. Ill even throw in some cure all elixr! Only three easy payments of 49.99 Oh tell us KriszDev with your vast knowledge of Nuclear Science. ::) ::) What items do they need for a nuclear weapon? Title: Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal Post by: reyhiesa on August 12, 2015, 04:52:37 AM LOL. So many shill accounts in one thread alone! All of them with the same bullshit against the deal, and created between June 19 and June 28. Several on the same day. How much are you getting paid to post here shill?
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