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Title: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on August 28, 2015, 11:32:30 PM
Please Trade Responsibly

http://i.imgur.com/vh4mavv.png
http://i.imgur.com/b3IKQx9.png (http://tryswing.com/)
http://i.imgur.com/8fAEOe8.png
http://i.imgur.com/LI4YYM5.png (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)
Windows Wallet
Download Here (Official Release) (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)
Q: Mac Wallet?
Download Here (Community Made) (https://mega.nz/#!9BYVxSAb!8SEo27Efo3rYiMtQBgdCg0agk2L9BTLKVoDcsoPvQ5E)
http://i.imgur.com/VqI7YWS.png (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/#)
~All Explorers / Rich Lists~
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/#
http://cryptobe.com/chain/Swing
http://i.imgur.com/gDUo7xS.png (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING)
~All Exchanges~
https://yobit.net/en/trade/SWING/BTC
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING
~Extended Swing Charts~
http://altcoinlive.com/bittrex-swing-btc
http://altcoinlive.com/yobit-swing-btc
http://i.imgur.com/JMvkZGM.png (https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/)
https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/
http://i.imgur.com/OPD3QS0.png (http://swing.thecoin.pw)
~Standard Pools~
http://swing.thecoin.pw
http://minzpool.ml/getting_started
http://www.megahash.co.uk/

~Profit Switching Pools w/ Swing payout~
HASHGOAL.com (http://HASHGOAL.com)
http://www.zpool.ca/site/mining

Run a pool? Add swing and let us know so I can list it here!
http://i.imgur.com/fYFHVS7.png

Q: Who is the dev?
What's up! I'm _Crypto. I've got a few handles that I go by. On bitcointalk I'm MurderousKirk. In IRC I'm _Crypto. In slack I'm IAm_Crypto. On twitter I'm @CryptoPumpInfo (https://twitter.com/cryptopumpinfo), where I'm known for occasionally pointing out blatant pump and dumps still in the accumulation stage. I run the cryptocommunity slack group where 545+ users have sighed up and chat / lurk daily. The only coins I have made prior to this are Greed and GE.

Q: What is the max supply?
40 mil. But it will take quite some time to reach that.

Q: How can I get in contact with you?
The fastest way to reach me is with a DM on slack or twitter.

Q: How can I figure out what reward to expect?
So basically, POS rewards = 1% of the last 3 digits of the block count.
POW is the same, only there is a multiplier. It's factored by taking the number in the thousandth place and multiplying it by 10, and the result is the percentage of POS miners get.
I need to come up with a way to explain it better but the chart should help.
So for example, on block 8532:
POS reward = 5.32
POW reward = 80% of 5.32 = 4.256
The only deviation is when the thousandth place is 0. Rather than have miners earn nothing they earn 100%.

Q: What is HiPos?
It's not very well documented, but from what I've gathered the only difference between HiPos and POS is that in HiPos your weight does not stop building after it hits your coin count. So if you have 10 coins and keep them offline for months, when you come back you will have 10 weight in POS coins, and more weight in HiPos that allows you to help get your fair share that you missed. HiPos also allows for some strategic locking and unlocking that was more relevant in Greed and GE than Swing.

Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes. (Unless you have a really small amount, then it might take longer.)

I'll add more info here as questions are asked.


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kcanup on August 28, 2015, 11:34:28 PM
Ok, watching  ;)


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: ukon on August 28, 2015, 11:42:50 PM
this good  :)


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Sir_Astral on August 28, 2015, 11:45:00 PM
Countdown  ???


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: finder on August 28, 2015, 11:51:13 PM
need Countdown


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 29, 2015, 12:56:55 AM
Countdown  ???

need Countdown

Launching Sunday afternoon. I'll try to give an hour or two heads up when the time comes.


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: brian_nguyen on August 29, 2015, 01:40:16 AM
Watching


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: NextGenCrypto on August 29, 2015, 01:43:12 AM
How and how soon will the swap for GE take place?


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: djm34 on August 29, 2015, 01:50:21 AM
sha256/hipos ? what does this mean ?


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: bit1 on August 29, 2015, 02:07:26 AM
This thing looks good. We will see.


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Colonel Crouton on August 29, 2015, 02:21:52 AM

To stake some you need to have some to have some you need to do what?


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 29, 2015, 03:31:43 AM
To Stake you need Dwing - To get Swing you need to buy GE at Yobit


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kevin1234a on August 29, 2015, 03:54:09 AM
bookmarking it it would be good if we can secure any pool before launch to set our miners since there is no countdown and only a hour or two notice on Sunday :/


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Franciem on August 29, 2015, 04:19:08 AM
*BOOKMARK*
interesting with this coin

i think will be good if i buy in first time
or rent some power at miningrig rental


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: dwihananto on August 29, 2015, 05:08:07 AM
interseting for this coin watching this thread


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: dengchangli on August 29, 2015, 05:35:12 AM
Where is zhe pool?


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: shapetwist on August 29, 2015, 11:03:54 AM
Looking good


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: coldfusion on August 29, 2015, 11:16:56 AM
Definitely keeping an eye on this one


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: device on August 29, 2015, 01:53:03 PM
http://generated.picgifs.com/generated/textgen/201508/picgifs-16-db0dd82478720557d5414d10e3544480ffce4c5a.gif http://generated.picgifs.com/generated/textgen/201508/picgifs-16-db0dd82478720557d5414d10e3544480ffce4c5a.gif http://generated.picgifs.com/generated/textgen/201508/picgifs-16-db0dd82478720557d5414d10e3544480ffce4c5a.gif


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kampretkabur on August 30, 2015, 12:52:27 AM
what is the hipost reward? n when its start?


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Wicked Sick on August 30, 2015, 07:05:44 AM
swap no set are bad.



Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: hugabase on August 30, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
sunday afternoon..wait for swap


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 30, 2015, 02:30:07 PM
How and how soon will the swap for GE take place?

The swap will begin as soon as the coin launches and remain open for 10 days.

sha256/hipos ? what does this mean ?

It's not very well documented, but from what I've gathered the only difference between HiPos and POS is that in HiPos your weight does not stop building after it hits your coin count. So if you have 10 coins and keep them offline for months, when you come back you will have 10 weight in POS coins, and more weight in HiPos that allows you to help get your fair share that you missed. HiPos also allows for some strategic locking and unlocking that was more relevant in Greed and GE than Swing.

To stake some you need to have some to have some you need to do what?

A. Mine it when we launch
B. Own Greed Evolved (https://yobit.net/en/trade/GE/BTC#7D) and convert it to Swing seed coins.

bookmarking it it would be good if we can secure any pool before launch to set our miners since there is no countdown and only a hour or two notice on Sunday :/
Where is zhe pool?

I've been trying to reach out to supernova as they insta added both Greed and GE but have not heard back yet. I get the feeling he will show up on launch and plan to pre-add him as a DNS seed, but if not there is a tendency for a half dozen pools or so to add new coins so we should get a few at least.


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: TimC on August 30, 2015, 04:08:16 PM
>>We plan to launch Sunday afternoon.

What time zone?


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 30, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
>>We plan to launch Sunday afternoon.

What time zone?

I'm shooting for 6 - 12 PM est sometime.

I can give a better estimate as it gets closer, but I'm currently working on:

Build the primary Seed Node
Create a fresh genesis block
Make sure it mines and builds on the seed node
Nurse the chain with a few blocks to keep it alive, and give a decent heads up to miners.
Upload the code to pool ops / wallets
Prep for swap requests
Open up swap form

So tldr; We have to wait for a bunch of stuff to compile and it can take a little while.

If any pool ops want a chance at getting linked as the primary pool in the ANN, let me know that you are planning to host Swing so I can get you the code asap. I'll link whichever pool gets the most consistant miners as the primary, and the rest below.

http://i.imgur.com/PMqguA1.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/638065265469747201)


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: megadestruct61 on August 30, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Sweetness  ;D


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Scorpianz on August 30, 2015, 10:35:49 PM
Getting ready to mine! :)


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: device on August 30, 2015, 10:40:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Qd0v9Cm.jpg?1


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 30, 2015, 11:02:19 PM

I'm shooting for 6 - 12 PM est sometime.

[] Build the primary Seed Node
[] Create a fresh genesis block
[] Make sure it mines and builds on the seed node
[] Nurse the chain with a few blocks to keep it alive, and give a decent heads up to miners.
Upload the code to pool ops / wallets
Prep for swap requests
Open up swap form

Swing is ready and alive!

This is a two hour notice till launch!

At 9PM EST I will:

Release the source code
Release the wallets
Open up the swap form and begin processing swaps

If any pools want to begin setup now please speak up!


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 30, 2015, 11:24:47 PM
Any questions I can answer till then?


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Starin on August 30, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Please let us know if a pool operator doesn't show up, so I can prepare for solo-mining. Also a .conf file would be nice too, with the launch ofcourse.



Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 30, 2015, 11:39:58 PM
Please let us know if a pool operator doesn't show up, so I can prepare for solo-mining. Also a .conf file would be nice too, with the launch ofcourse.


I would prepare for that possibility.

Example Swing.conf
Code:
server=1
listen=1
daemon=1
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=localhost
rpcport=16080
port=16061


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: andyatcrux on August 30, 2015, 11:56:07 PM
Please let us know if a pool operator doesn't show up, so I can prepare for solo-mining. Also a .conf file would be nice too, with the launch ofcourse.


I would prepare for that possibility.

Example Swing.conf
Code:
server=1
listen=1
daemon=1
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=localhost
rpcport=16080
port=16061

I am sure if you PM ocminer with a link to the source code he would get the pool up ASAP. He searches new ANN threads, so I doubt he is clicking on this one every hour to see when the planned launch is.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: MickyCOB on August 30, 2015, 11:58:08 PM
Getting ready to mine.. il keep an eye out for a miming pool  :)


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kevin1234a on August 31, 2015, 12:02:30 AM
wish if i can get my antminers to do solo for this coin, afraid might i'll loose early blocks


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 12:04:26 AM
Please let us know if a pool operator doesn't show up, so I can prepare for solo-mining. Also a .conf file would be nice too, with the launch ofcourse.


I would prepare for that possibility.

Example Swing.conf
Code:
server=1
listen=1
daemon=1
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=localhost
rpcport=16080
port=16061

I am sure if you PM ocminer with a link to the source code he would get the pool up ASAP. He searches new ANN threads, so I doubt he is clicking on this one every hour to see when the planned launch is.

I think so too. He's an absolute ninja with his pool. It's just a matter of him being online and seeing the source.


Title: Re: [Pre-Ann] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Vagnavs on August 31, 2015, 12:26:15 AM

I'm shooting for 6 - 12 PM est sometime.

[] Build the primary Seed Node
[] Create a fresh genesis block
[] Make sure it mines and builds on the seed node
[] Nurse the chain with a few blocks to keep it alive, and give a decent heads up to miners.
Upload the code to pool ops / wallets
Prep for swap requests
Open up swap form

Swing is ready and alive!

This is a two hour notice till launch!

At 9PM EST I will:

Release the source code
Release the wallets
Open up the swap form and begin processing swaps

If any pools want to begin setup now please speak up!

So it can be mined with SHA 256? If I read things correct.. Should be interesting to see what how much TH's is thrown at this coin


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: CryptoSiD on August 31, 2015, 12:31:42 AM
Im prepping pool right now


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 12:33:42 AM
Im prepping pool right now

Fantastic!

On a side not I've just paid for CryptoBE block explorer and rich list so we will have that on launch.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: CryptoSiD on August 31, 2015, 12:35:23 AM
www.suchpool.pw/swing/ ready for pre-reg

will be up at launch!


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: NextGenCrypto on August 31, 2015, 12:36:13 AM
www.suchpool.pw/swing/ ready for pre-reg

will be up at launch!

Awesome!  TY!   :-*


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kevin1234a on August 31, 2015, 12:39:06 AM
www.suchpool.pw/swing/ ready for pre-reg

will be up at launch!

thanks guys


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: piebeyb on August 31, 2015, 12:42:35 AM
waiting for an update later on for the next few hours, see if this is good or not :)


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Starin on August 31, 2015, 12:45:27 AM
So 15 minutes to launch?


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 12:46:40 AM
So 15 minutes to launch?

Yup!!


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: CryptoSiD on August 31, 2015, 12:50:19 AM
nodes hardcoded?


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 12:50:57 AM
nodes hardcoded?

yes


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 12:54:30 AM
Got word that the build on the pool went fine and the stratum will go live at 9!

5 Minutes!


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: lolwut on August 31, 2015, 12:55:48 AM
coinking will be adding @ launch


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kevin1234a on August 31, 2015, 12:59:25 AM
suchpool showing 11 blocks ???


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:00:20 AM

Swing is live!

Pools:
https://www.suchpool.pw/swing/

Wallet: https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)

Source: https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/

GE -> Swing Swap Form: https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

Block Explorer / Rich List: Soon!


(I will clean up and linkify the thread soon)


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: CryptoSiD on August 31, 2015, 01:00:22 AM
UP!


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:01:27 AM
suchpool showing 11 blocks ???

That was me nursing it along for the past 2 hours so you guys had the heads up. If I didn't do that there was risk of running into issues.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: lolwut on August 31, 2015, 01:01:36 AM
suchpool, no way you got the source just now. I assume you had the wallet up and running before 9....

Not exactly fair for other pools, but oh well....


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: CryptoSiD on August 31, 2015, 01:03:23 AM
suchpool, no way you got the source just now. I assume you had the wallet up and running before 9....

Not exactly fair for other pools, but oh well....

right, got the source before launch to pre-compile it, launched stratums at 9 pm est
Sorry for this


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:03:38 AM
no way you got the source just now. I assume you had the wallet up and running before 9....

Not exactly fair for other pools, but oh well....

I put out a call for pools so they could get setup early for launch. It was given to him early so we could launch on time since he stated he would be hosting it. He was the only pool to commit before launch.

I do appreciate the host though.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kevin1234a on August 31, 2015, 01:08:09 AM
sent first swap request :)

EDIT: thanks i received my coins


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: animalroam on August 31, 2015, 01:13:05 AM
Block Explorer and Richlist are now up:

http://cryptobe.com/cryptobebanner.png (http://cryptobe.com/chain/Swing)


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:16:26 AM
Block Explorer and Richlist are now up:

http://cryptobe.com/cryptobebanner.png (http://cryptobe.com/chain/Swing)

Thanks!

Up to 409TH/s

Processing the first swaps. Difficulty spiked with all the hash power so next few blocks will be a little slower. Once we're rolling I'll keep pumping Swing out asap.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: TimC on August 31, 2015, 01:22:06 AM

Up to 409TH/s

Processing the first swaps. Difficulty spiked with all the hash power so next few blocks will be a little slower. Once we're rolling I'll keep pumping Swing out asap.

Swap has been received.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: lolwut on August 31, 2015, 01:31:08 AM

Swing is live!

Pools:
https://www.suchpool.pw/swing/

Wallet: https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)

Source: https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/

GE -> Swing Swap Form: https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

Block Explorer / Rich List: Soon!


(I will clean up and linkify the thread soon)

UP on coinking, please add to OP

Thanks


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:33:45 AM

Swing is live!

Pools:
https://www.suchpool.pw/swing/

Wallet: https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)

Source: https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/

GE -> Swing Swap Form: https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

Block Explorer / Rich List: Soon!


(I will clean up and linkify the thread soon)

UP on coinking, please add to OP

Thanks

added https://coinking.io/

Thanks!


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:36:19 AM
Up to 611 TH/s  :o


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:41:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/g1PluHq.png (https://twitter.com/Crypto_BE/status/638163785207803904)


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: ipominer on August 31, 2015, 01:43:19 AM
Up to 611 TH/s  :o

Added on ipoMiner (https://www.ipominer.com) on our main SHA256 port (4444).


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:45:20 AM
Up to 611 TH/s  :o

Added on ipoMiner (https://www.ipominer.com) on our main SHA256 port (4444).

Awesome thanks!

Added "https://www.ipominer.com/ (port 4444)" to ANN.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kampretkabur on August 31, 2015, 01:48:49 AM
what is the block reward?


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Starin on August 31, 2015, 01:49:06 AM
Up to 611 TH/s  :o

That much is hash is honestly waste of electricity. I pulled of my miners.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 01:55:08 AM
what is the block reward?

Please see the chart in the ANN

Also

Q: How can I figure out what reward to expect?
So basically, POS rewards = 1% of the last 3 digits of the block count.
POW is the same, only there is a multiplier. It's factored by taking the number in the thousandth place and multiplying it by 10, and the result is the percentage of POS miners get.
I need to come up with a way to explain it better but the chart should help.
So for example, on block 8532:
POS reward = 5.32
POW reward = 80% of 5.32 = 4.256
The only deviation is when the thousandth place is 0. Rather than have miners earn nothing they earn 100%.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kampretkabur on August 31, 2015, 02:00:38 AM
what is the block reward?

Please see the chart in the ANN

Also

Q: How can I figure out what reward to expect?
So basically, POS rewards = 1% of the last 3 digits of the block count.
POW is the same, only there is a multiplier. It's factored by taking the number in the thousandth place and multiplying it by 10, and the result is the percentage of POS miners get.
I need to come up with a way to explain it better but the chart should help.
So for example, on block 8532:
POS reward = 5.32
POW reward = 80% of 5.32 = 4.256
The only deviation is when the thousandth place is 0. Rather than have miners earn nothing they earn 100%.
thank you for the explanation, so the reward will keeps rising for now?


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 02:03:30 AM
what is the block reward?

Please see the chart in the ANN

Also

Q: How can I figure out what reward to expect?
So basically, POS rewards = 1% of the last 3 digits of the block count.
POW is the same, only there is a multiplier. It's factored by taking the number in the thousandth place and multiplying it by 10, and the result is the percentage of POS miners get.
I need to come up with a way to explain it better but the chart should help.
So for example, on block 8532:
POS reward = 5.32
POW reward = 80% of 5.32 = 4.256
The only deviation is when the thousandth place is 0. Rather than have miners earn nothing they earn 100%.
thank you for the explanation, so the reward will keeps rising for now?

Yeah till block 1,000. All the way up to 9.99 reward. After that it will be less for miners for a while till it loops back around to 100% of POS rewards.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 02:06:04 AM
So... no POS till block 1000?


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 02:07:18 AM
Network weight =0


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 02:08:13 AM
So... no POS till block 1000?

POS activated block 1. You guys should be able to start building weight and trying to stake. Maturation time is set to 5 minutes, but you're also competing against a lot of hash power right now. I have no idea when the first POS blocks will hit.


Title: Re: [Launch @ 9PM EST] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 02:08:39 AM
Network weight =0

Far as I know this will be 0 till someone hits a POS block. We had 0 net weight in GE for a while and it worked out fine. Creeps me out regardless though haha.  :)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: ukon on August 31, 2015, 02:27:24 AM
swap done..
thanks  ;)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: tkari on August 31, 2015, 02:55:53 AM
thanks for the swap.  Looking forward to POS awards


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: megadestruct61 on August 31, 2015, 03:01:37 AM
Looks like alot of swapping going on. This is the burn address. http://cryptobe.com/address/FUJJ9WD5yMdhpHaeqgsdt4Nxw5ZTF8cxib

Did someone seriously swap 4.99 GE? lol


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kampretkabur on August 31, 2015, 03:05:37 AM
how many swing will i get for 900 GE?


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: NextGenCrypto on August 31, 2015, 03:07:23 AM
how many swing will i get for 900 GE?

90


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 03:09:34 AM
Looks like alot are swapping going on. This is the burn address. http://cryptobe.com/address/FUJJ9WD5yMdhpHaeqgsdt4Nxw5ZTF8cxib

Did someone seriously swap 4.99 GE? lol

Yes but it was a followup swap, guess they missed the change :).

how many swing will i get for 900 GE?

It's 10%.

Decimal place one to the left.

900.00 GE = 90.000 Swing


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 03:30:24 AM
I am a total non-programmer so forgive the question.
If I have weight shouldn't the network have weight?
Isn't the network weight the total weight of everyone?
The only other coin I saw this in was supposed to be
POS but it was accidentally turned off in the code.
Just checking.. since I have not idea.



Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 03:39:17 AM
I am a total non-programmer so forgive the question.
If I have weight shouldn't the network have weight?
Isn't the network weight the total weight of everyone?
The only other coin I saw this in was supposed to be
POS but it was accidentally turned off in the code.
Just checking.. since I have not idea.



Does it say you're staking?

If so we should be good.

The only place I know of in the code that you can turn off POS by accident is HERE (https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/blob/master/src/main.h#L45) where you set the block you want POS to start at. I have it set to block 1.

I'm not positive on how it shows net weight, but I think it only updates it when someone has staked a block.

Also think about it this way, when the GE network is going on a normal day there's probably 150,000 - 600,000 weight cracking blocks. POS has a starting diff that can only go so low, and the whole network probably has very little weight total considering we are only on block 175 and you usually don't start POS on block 1..


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 03:48:35 AM
It does say I am Staking so all good. Just wait and wait some more. Thanks for a smooth launch.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 03:51:43 AM
It does say I am Staking so all good. Just wait and wait some more. Thanks for a smooth launch.


That's good to hear. Thanks for the feedback!

& Happy to provide it, just really glad it seems to be running smoothly.  :D


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 03:59:56 AM
Alright I need some rest.

I will resume swaps asap.
In the meantime you can send it in and wait for me to resume, or wait for me to say I'm back online to send it in.

Some Todo Stuff:
[ ] Cleanup and linkify thread
[ ] Finish website
[ ] Get on Yobit (If you want to get a head start on this linking yobit to this thread and asking them to list Swing will speed it up.)
[ ] Push for Bittrex & others

If you sent me GE and did not get SWING prior to this post please get in contact with me! I think I got everyone though.

495,648.11215691 GE has been burned so far.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: nikkers on August 31, 2015, 04:04:51 AM
Alright I need some rest.

I will resume swaps asap.
In the meantime you can send it in and wait for me to resume, or wait for me to say I'm back online to send it in.

Some Todo Stuff:
[ ] Cleanup and linkify thread
[ ] Finish website
[ ] Get on Yobit (If you want to get a head start on this linking yobit to this thread and asking them to list Swing will speed it up.)
[ ] Push for Bittrex & others

If you sent me GE and did not get SWING prior to this post please get in contact with me! I think I got everyone though.

495,648.11215691 GE has been burned so far.

NO!!!! no sleep for you yet :P just quickly sending some more to swap lmao :P

only kidding if i get them i get them ;) good job so far, enjoyed greed and greed evolved.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 04:06:10 AM
Alright I need some rest.

I will resume swaps asap.
In the meantime you can send it in and wait for me to resume, or wait for me to say I'm back online to send it in.

Some Todo Stuff:
[ ] Cleanup and linkify thread
[ ] Finish website
[ ] Get on Yobit (If you want to get a head start on this linking yobit to this thread and asking them to list Swing will speed it up.)
[ ] Push for Bittrex & others

If you sent me GE and did not get SWING prior to this post please get in contact with me! I think I got everyone though.

495,648.11215691 GE has been burned so far.

NO!!!! no sleep for you yet :P just quickly sending some more to swap lmao :P

only kidding if i get them i get them ;) good job so far, enjoyed greed and greed evolved.


I'll catch what I can before I log, but at this point no promises how long I'll be online. :)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: @boutiuqe on August 31, 2015, 04:10:25 AM
What is this coin made to use for ?
Tech ?
or just pump ?


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: nikkers on August 31, 2015, 04:11:57 AM
lol i was only kidding, but i got them already, thanks a bunch man ;)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: *Sakura* on August 31, 2015, 04:30:09 AM
I just sent my swap request. :)


EDIT: Swings received within 2 minutes, thanks! :)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 04:31:12 AM
What is this coin made to use for ?
Tech ?
or just pump ?

Testing to see if it's possible to make the price of a coin move due to something hard coded in. In this instance a swinging supply. The original idea was to test a swinging transaction tax rate, but that would have taken longer and I wasn't sure I could accomplish it.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: SIX3P0 on August 31, 2015, 06:26:39 AM
Wow that premine is big...kind of scary, Ill still mine alittle =)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: tekyboy on August 31, 2015, 06:36:20 AM
though mining reward is less comparing the difficulty but will try to grab some


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: shapetwist on August 31, 2015, 08:22:25 AM
Looking wonderful. Well done


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: hichman on August 31, 2015, 08:44:55 AM
what the mining cost per swing


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 10:31:11 AM
Cost depends on your electrical cost.

Right now on pool - 3 Swing per block but long term average is 5 -
varying from 1 to 10 per block.

 My estimate with current Hs rate is 2 swing per hour per THs -
Approx. 50 Swing per day per THs. My cost is $1.20 per THs per day.

For me, that puts it ata mining cost of 8160 sat per coin.

If Ths decreases, cost per coin will decrease as you would get more coins per share

That is my rough guess - assuming my quick off the top of my head math is right.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: device on August 31, 2015, 10:31:17 AM
Wow that premine is big...kind of scary, Ill still mine alittle =)
You cool?
http://i.imgur.com/irAJER4.png (http://i.imgur.com/irAJER4.png)

Premine is for coin swap from GE-- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126837.msg11905986#msg11905986 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126837.msg11905986#msg11905986), which swaped from greed----game of greed-- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066687.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066687.0)

Block staked 8)
http://cryptobe.com/tx/29ed10f958f22ccac21580adf864aa65a3642820b2686dab5807ed7f7c13aae5 (http://cryptobe.com/tx/29ed10f958f22ccac21580adf864aa65a3642820b2686dab5807ed7f7c13aae5)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 10:34:22 AM
Wow that premine is big...kind of scary, Ill still mine alittle =)
You cool
Not really a pre-mine but a coin swap from GE coin


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 10:37:04 AM
But I guess I am repeating what "DEVICE" said, only,
he said it much better - sorry.
It would help if I could read.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: kampretkabur on August 31, 2015, 02:12:11 PM
what the mining cost per swing
might be better to just buy GE n swap it


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: deadliftbrah on August 31, 2015, 03:16:46 PM
Nice quick swap executed with my GE - Swing, thanks Dev! **Sigh** Down the rabbit hole again with another coin...


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 05:52:10 PM
Back online, all swap requests should be filled.

If you sent me GE prior to this post and have not gotten your swing please get in touch with me!

810,365.83146968 GE has been burned so far!

78,963.96685313 out of 160,000 Swing seed coins remain.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 05:54:08 PM
Working on:

Some Todo Stuff:
[] Cleanup and linkify thread
[] Finish website
[ ] Get on Yobit (If you want to get a head start on this linking yobit to this thread and asking them to list Swing will speed it up.)
[ ] Push for Bittrex & others

Looks like POS is working? That's good to hear. Net weight is 2824.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: NextGenCrypto on August 31, 2015, 05:58:51 PM
Looks like POS is working? That's good to hear. Net weight is 2824.

Most definitely working.   :)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 06:26:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/bmPxtI8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/638417284416016384)

Please show your support with RT's and replies and prods at yobit. Let's get listed :)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Dexter12 on August 31, 2015, 08:43:21 PM
Been over 12 hours since I received the first coins, but still saying I don't have mature coins...  :-\
That is strange, got mine ~3hours ago and they started to gain weight right after..
Did you unlock your wallet?


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 10:28:15 PM
Been over 12 hours since I received the first coins, but still saying I don't have mature coins...  :-\
That is strange, got mine ~3hours ago and they started to gain weight right after..
Did you unlock your wallet?
Strange indeed, I have not touched anything since I launched the wallet.

Have you been sending out coins? You may have that issues if you have an extremely small amount of coins too.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 10:42:36 PM
You may have that issues if you have an extremely small amount of coins too.

I reinstalled and just now it started staking, but the small amount of coins probably was the reason.

Good to hear  :)


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: Woody20285 on August 31, 2015, 11:09:23 PM
Love this coin - stakes are pouring in!!
Great coin - Great Dev.

Been through several coin exchanges and this was the best.
Thank you.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: murderouskirk on August 31, 2015, 11:22:46 PM
Love this coin - stakes are pouring in!!
Great coin - Great Dev.

Been through several coin exchanges and this was the best.
Thank you.

Happy to hear things are going well :)

Hopefully things keep going smoothly and we make it to exchange soon.

Website is updated btw. Just need to add some additional info on the bottom later.


Title: Re: [Now Live!] SWING - Swinging supply, low inflation, no bullshit promises.
Post by: MickyCOB on September 01, 2015, 01:11:47 AM
http://i.imgur.com/bmPxtI8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/638417284416016384)

Please show your support with RT's and replies and prods at yobit. Let's get listed :)
Yobit needs to list this coin  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 47%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 01, 2015, 02:55:25 AM
75,263.89965285 out of 160,000 seed coins remain. [47% left, 53% claimed]


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 47%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: seedooroff on September 01, 2015, 08:08:10 AM
Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes.

Is it so?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 47%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: jcksteve on September 01, 2015, 01:31:28 PM
75,263.89965285 out of 160,000 seed coins remain. [47% left, 53% claimed]
47% left...??looks interesting


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 47%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: kampretkabur on September 01, 2015, 01:43:42 PM
mine is still not mature after more than 20 hours, will try to merge some inputs now, maybe its too small


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 01, 2015, 04:14:05 PM
Back online. Filled the swaps that came in while I was asleep.

71,068.87864807 seed coins remain.

889,316.71352045 GE has been burned


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 10:57:45 AM
The staking rewards are pretty surprising..


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: plastcom on September 02, 2015, 11:19:44 AM
Good climate is around this coin.
How many days has been to convert GE-> SWING?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:21:55 AM
Good climate is around this coin.
How many days has been to convert GE-> SWING?

6


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: plastcom on September 02, 2015, 11:45:12 AM
SWING on bittrex would be an interesting option. I think the dev knows what he's doing, and this coin will succeed.
I just bought @700 on yobit certain amount :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zazarb on September 02, 2015, 02:33:11 PM
Good climate is around this coin.
How many days has been to convert GE-> SWING?

6
its official deadline?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 03:03:00 PM
Good climate is around this coin.
How many days has been to convert GE-> SWING?

6
its official deadline?

No, today is day 6 since Swing launched. As far as I know there are no deadlines except when Swing swap supply runs out.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: Dexter12 on September 02, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
That is what OP says:

Q: What will the GE -> Swing swap look like?The swap will begin as soon as the coin launches and remain open for 10 days. It will be done using a form that will go live on launch. This method worked very well when we did Greed -> GE. Your coins will be swapped within 24 hours, but more than likely almost instantly.

I guess, after day 10 the remaining unswapped Coins will be burned.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zazarb on September 02, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
That is what OP says:

Q: What will the GE -> Swing swap look like?The swap will begin as soon as the coin launches and remain open for 10 days. It will be done using a form that will go live on launch. This method worked very well when we did Greed -> GE. Your coins will be swapped within 24 hours, but more than likely almost instantly.

I guess, after day 10 the remaining unswapped Coins will be burned.
if you right - only 4 day left?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: sparksi on September 02, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Good climate is around this coin.
How many days has been to convert GE-> SWING?

6
its official deadline?

No, today is day 6 since Swing launched. As far as I know there are no deadlines except when Swing swap supply runs out.

Today is day 4. This coin was launched on Sunday.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 04:16:48 PM
That is what OP says:

Q: What will the GE -> Swing swap look like?The swap will begin as soon as the coin launches and remain open for 10 days. It will be done using a form that will go live on launch. This method worked very well when we did Greed -> GE. Your coins will be swapped within 24 hours, but more than likely almost instantly.

I guess, after day 10 the remaining unswapped Coins will be burned.

The remaining unswapped coins will just stay floating around in circulation.

The swap form will remain open until the end of the 10th, or until the seed coins run out.

SWING on bittrex would be an interesting option. I think the dev knows what he's doing, and this coin will succeed.
I just bought @700 on yobit certain amount :)

I've just reached out to Bittrex again this morning. Previously in GE they wanted to see the name re-branded, so hopefully they will like the direction we've taken now that I've re-opened that dialog.

If I don't hear from them soon I will start prodding other exchanges too.

If you want to show your support, favorite retweet and repost!

http://i.imgur.com/sGYYP19.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/639109450217988096)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 44%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 02, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
Hey Dev, just send some swap coins your way  8)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 09:08:26 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: danosphere on September 02, 2015, 10:46:12 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:18:13 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!

Thanks for the positive feedback! I'm happy things are running smoothly so far. I try to be quick with the swaps but really it just boils down to if I'm awake or AFK.

Starting to find the valuation of this thing pretty interesting. With no big platform or anything like that coming to base price on it seems to boil down to two things.

A: At what price do the current holders value their holdings.
B: What's the current miners cost?

That's it..

As B goes up and down we might actually see a predictable swing in valuation. Fun stuff to watch play out. :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:18:44 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!

Agreed, can't stress it enough. Really good work here.

The whole Greed and GE projects, even as experiments, show that the dev is serious about it by having swapping possible. He carried his tests and didn't let down the investors after leaving former projects.
It's not the case of making a coin and dump it. There's a lot of thought into this. I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

What's the burn address of GE by the way, I must have missed it.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:23:09 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!

Agreed, can't stress it enough. Really good work here.

The whole Greed and GE projects, even as experiments, show that the dev is serious about it by having swapping possible. He carried his tests and didn't let down the investors after leaving former projects.
It's not the case of making a coin and dump it. There's a lot of thought into this. I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

What's the burn address of GE by the way, I must have missed it.


If you are trying to swap:
https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

If you just want to look:
http://cryptobe.com/a/FUJJ9WD5yM


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:26:59 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!

Agreed, can't stress it enough. Really good work here.

The whole Greed and GE projects, even as experiments, show that the dev is serious about it by having swapping possible. He carried his tests and didn't let down the investors after leaving former projects.
It's not the case of making a coin and dump it. There's a lot of thought into this. I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

What's the burn address of GE by the way, I must have missed it.


If you are trying to swap:
https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

If you just want to look:
http://cryptobe.com/a/FUJJ9WD5yM

Do you hold private keys to this address?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:28:09 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:32:27 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.

That involves zero work. But +1 for honesty. I'll watch closely.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 02, 2015, 11:33:24 PM
Are we to refer to ourselves as "SWINGers"?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 02, 2015, 11:34:17 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.

That involves zero work. But +1 for honesty. I'll watch closely.

The developers job is not to "work", it's to maintain the blockchain and improve when required to support applications.  Build something that requires "work" and I'm sure he'll put in the time if it's worth it.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:35:48 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.

That involves zero work. But +1 for honesty. I'll watch closely.

The developers job is not to "work", it's to maintain the blockchain and improve when required to support applications.  Build something that requires "work" and I'm sure he'll put in the time if it's worth it.

I didn't imply what his job is. Merely stated the obvious.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:37:22 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!

Agreed, can't stress it enough. Really good work here.

The whole Greed and GE projects, even as experiments, show that the dev is serious about it by having swapping possible. He carried his tests and didn't let down the investors after leaving former projects.
It's not the case of making a coin and dump it. There's a lot of thought into this. I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

What's the burn address of GE by the way, I must have missed it.


If you are trying to swap:
https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

If you just want to look:
http://cryptobe.com/a/FUJJ9WD5yM

Do you hold private keys to this address?

Currently yes, it makes it much easier for me to process the swap if the wallet it running and notifying me of received coins. Also it functions as a bit of a safety net for when we get down to <~10% remaining VIA allowing me to unlock just long enough let pending inputs confirm. This was a much bigger issue in GREED though as it was POS only during swap and the chain started to halt a few times as everything converted.

I can destroy the private keys once the swap ends for everyone's sanity.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:38:44 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.

That involves zero work. But +1 for honesty. I'll watch closely.

And that's the point actually.

Your coins are not valued on my work ethic.

In how many other coins can you say the same?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: YoBit on September 02, 2015, 11:38:53 PM
SwingCoin [SWING] is listed: https://yobit.net/en/trade/SWING/BTC
SwingCoin Dice: https://yobit.net/en/dice/SWING

https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png (https://yobit.net/en/trade/NAT/BTC)

Code:
[url=https://yobit.net/en/trade/NAT/BTC][img]https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png[/img][/url]


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:39:59 PM
SwingCoin [SWING] is listed: https://yobit.net/en/trade/SWING/BTC
SwingCoin Dice: https://yobit.net/en/dice/SWING

https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png (https://yobit.net/en/trade/NAT/BTC)

Code:
[url=https://yobit.net/en/trade/NAT/BTC][img]https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png[/img][/url]

Awhh yeahh!  ;D

Thanks Yobit!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:40:33 PM
Few larger swaps coming in today.  :)

Down to 38% remaining.

61,836.12780935 Swing Seed Coins remain

981,644.22190792 GE has been burned

Side note,
I'm expecting Yobit to add Swing within 48 hours.  ;D

 :) this is fun! I like that the SHA256 algo gives a bit of an edge to those staking (since BTC miners make competing near impossible even w rented hash). Nice work dev, and props on the near instant conversion times from GE->SWING  ;D swapped a few times now and very happy with how quick I'm able to swap and get right down to stakin!

Agreed, can't stress it enough. Really good work here.

The whole Greed and GE projects, even as experiments, show that the dev is serious about it by having swapping possible. He carried his tests and didn't let down the investors after leaving former projects.
It's not the case of making a coin and dump it. There's a lot of thought into this. I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

What's the burn address of GE by the way, I must have missed it.


If you are trying to swap:
https://crypto.typeform.com/to/PTRRNN

If you just want to look:
http://cryptobe.com/a/FUJJ9WD5yM

Do you hold private keys to this address?

Currently yes, it makes it much easier for me to process the swap if the wallet it running and notifying me of received coins. Also it functions as a bit of a safety net for when we get down to <~10% remaining VIA allowing me to unlock just long enough let pending inputs confirm. This was a much bigger issue in GREED though as it was POS only during swap and the chain started to halt a few times as everything converted.

I can destroy the private keys once the swap ends for everyone's sanity.

Thanks for addressing concerns. Say hello to YoBit.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 02, 2015, 11:46:42 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.

That involves zero work. But +1 for honesty. I'll watch closely.

And that's the point actually.

Your coins are not valued on my work ethic.

In how many other coins can you say the same?

Again, I didn't say that was a bad thing, quite the opposite actually.
Thanks for being very open to questions.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 02, 2015, 11:48:12 PM
I wonder if more developments are in the planning, since it kind of sounds that Swing is an experiment too, although a more complex one.

Basically the plan from here on out is just to watch the impact of the swing supply, try to get on as many exchanges as possible, grow the community and spread the word about swing.

Swing is meant to last unlike Greed and GE that were designed to live for about a month and get replaced.

That being said, as the community grows and developers get interested I wouldn't be surprised at all if holders start coming together to progress swing in their own ways in the spirit of open source development.

That involves zero work. But +1 for honesty. I'll watch closely.

And that's the point actually.

Your coins are not valued on my work ethic.

In how many other coins can you say the same?

Again, I didn't say that was a bad thing, quite the opposite actually.
Thanks for being very open to questions.

Sure thing! :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 35%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 03, 2015, 12:21:01 AM
Down to 35%

55,998.22744137 seed coins remain.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 38%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: MickyCOB on September 03, 2015, 12:55:30 AM
SwingCoin [SWING] is listed: https://yobit.net/en/trade/SWING/BTC
SwingCoin Dice: https://yobit.net/en/dice/SWING

https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png (https://yobit.net/en/trade/NAT/BTC)

Code:
[url=https://yobit.net/en/trade/NAT/BTC][img]https://yobit.net/i/small_logo.png[/img][/url]

Yes  :) Thank you YoBit https://yobit.net/en/  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 34%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: kampretkabur on September 03, 2015, 05:02:46 AM
n yobit always there, thank you thank you


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 34%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: paolo77 on September 03, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
i try to compile the mac o linux wallet ! same error :

qmake
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP support
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP supportProject MESSAGE: Building with DBUS (Freedesktop notifications) supportRemoved plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/darksendconfig.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/darksend.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/rpcdarksend.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/instantx.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/activemasternode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/spork.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternodeconfig.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/addeditadrenalinenode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/masternodemanager.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/darksendconfig.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/darksend.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/instantx.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/activemasternode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/spork.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/addeditadrenalinenode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/masternodemanager.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/darksendconfig.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/addeditadrenalinenode.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/masternodemanager.ui


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 34%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: EmperorBaburr on September 03, 2015, 06:32:52 AM
hey was wondering if swing was a ico ?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 34%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 03, 2015, 04:13:31 PM
hey was wondering if swing was a ico ?

I don't think so, this is just like Greed Evolved, right?  No ICO there unless I missed something...all about swapping, correct?

I have one question:  Is staking up?  Or does POS start another time?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 34%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 03, 2015, 05:05:32 PM
hey was wondering if swing was a ico ?

I don't think so, this is just like Greed Evolved, right?  No ICO there unless I missed something...all about swapping, correct?

I have one question:  Is staking up?  Or does POS start another time?

Not an ICO, just upgrading the GE holders to the new chain. Nobody wants to be a bagholder.  :)

Staking started at block 1, you can start cracking blocks whenever you want.

i try to compile the mac o linux wallet ! same error :

Code:
qmake
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP support
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP supportProject MESSAGE: Building with DBUS (Freedesktop notifications) supportRemoved plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/darksendconfig.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/darksend.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/rpcdarksend.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/instantx.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/activemasternode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/spork.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternodeconfig.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/addeditadrenalinenode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/masternodemanager.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/darksendconfig.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/darksend.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/instantx.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/activemasternode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/spork.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/addeditadrenalinenode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/masternodemanager.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/darksendconfig.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/addeditadrenalinenode.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/masternodemanager.ui

Thanks for trying this, I've only done windows wallets but I still might be able to help.

Try compiling without UPNP support. Here's my compile commands used for the windows wallet:
Code:
in msys---
cd /C/Swing/src/leveldb
TARGET_OS=NATIVE_WINDOWS make libleveldb.a libmemenv.a
in cmd---
set PATH=%PATH%;C:\Qt\5.3.2\bin
cd C:\Swing\
qmake "USE_QRCODE=1" "USE_UPNP=-" "USE_IPV6=1" Swing-qt.pro
mingw32-make -f Makefile.Release

And here's my Swing-qt for windows wallet (notice you have to add in the location of the deps you've installed near the top):

Code:
TEMPLATE = app
TARGET = Swing-qt
VERSION = 1.0.7
INCLUDEPATH += src src/json src/qt
DEFINES += QT_GUI BOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB BOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE
CONFIG += no_include_pwd
CONFIG += thread


CONFIG += static


greaterThan(QT_MAJOR_VERSION, 4) {
    QT += widgets
    DEFINES += QT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE=0
}

# for boost 1.37, add -mt to the boost libraries
# use: qmake BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX=-mt
# for boost thread win32 with _win32 sufix
# use: BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX=_win32-...
# or when linking against a specific BerkelyDB version: BDB_LIB_SUFFIX=-4.8

# Dependency library locations can be customized with:
#    BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH, BOOST_LIB_PATH, BDB_INCLUDE_PATH,
#    BDB_LIB_PATH, OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH and OPENSSL_LIB_PATH respectively

BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX=-mgw49-mt-s-1_55
BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX=-mgw49-mt-s-1_55
BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/boost_1_55_0
BOOST_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/boost_1_55_0/stage/lib
BDB_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/db-5.3.28.NC/build_unix
BDB_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/db-5.3.28.NC/build_unix
OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/openssl-1.0.1g/include
OPENSSL_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/openssl-1.0.1g
MINIUPNPC_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/
MINIUPNPC_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/miniupnpc
QRENCODE_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/qrencode-3.4.4
QRENCODE_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/qrencode-3.4.4/.libs

OBJECTS_DIR = build
MOC_DIR = build
UI_DIR = build

# use: qmake "RELEASE=1"
contains(RELEASE, 1) {
    # Mac: compile for maximum compatibility (10.5, 32-bit)
    macx:QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -arch x86_64 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk

    !windows:!macx {
        # Linux: static link
        LIBS += -Wl,-Bstatic
    }
}

!win32 {
# for extra security against potential buffer overflows: enable GCCs Stack Smashing Protection
QMAKE_CXXFLAGS *= -fstack-protector-all --param ssp-buffer-size=1
QMAKE_LFLAGS *= -fstack-protector-all --param ssp-buffer-size=1
# We need to exclude this for Windows cross compile with MinGW 4.2.x, as it will result in a non-working executable!
# This can be enabled for Windows, when we switch to MinGW >= 4.4.x.
}
# for extra security on Windows: enable ASLR and DEP via GCC linker flags
win32:QMAKE_LFLAGS *= -Wl,--large-address-aware -static
win32:QMAKE_LFLAGS += -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++


# use: qmake "USE_QRCODE=1"
# libqrencode (http://fukuchi.org/works/qrencode/index.en.html) must be installed for support
contains(USE_QRCODE, 1) {
    message(Building with QRCode support)
    DEFINES += USE_QRCODE
    LIBS += -lqrencode
}

# use: qmake "USE_UPNP=1" ( enabled by default; default)
#  or: qmake "USE_UPNP=0" (disabled by default)
#  or: qmake "USE_UPNP=-" (not supported)
# miniupnpc (http://miniupnp.free.fr/files/) must be installed for support
contains(USE_UPNP, -) {
    message(Building without UPNP support)
} else {
    message(Building with UPNP support)
    count(USE_UPNP, 0) {
        USE_UPNP=1
    }
    DEFINES += USE_UPNP=$$USE_UPNP STATICLIB
    INCLUDEPATH += $$MINIUPNPC_INCLUDE_PATH
    LIBS += $$join(MINIUPNPC_LIB_PATH,,-L,) -lminiupnpc
    win32:LIBS += -liphlpapi
}

# use: qmake "USE_DBUS=1" or qmake "USE_DBUS=0"
linux:count(USE_DBUS, 0) {
    USE_DBUS=1
}
contains(USE_DBUS, 1) {
    message(Building with DBUS (Freedesktop notifications) support)
    DEFINES += USE_DBUS
    QT += dbus
}

contains(BITCOIN_NEED_QT_PLUGINS, 1) {
    DEFINES += BITCOIN_NEED_QT_PLUGINS
    QTPLUGIN += qcncodecs qjpcodecs qtwcodecs qkrcodecs qtaccessiblewidgets
}

INCLUDEPATH += src/leveldb/include src/leveldb/helpers
LIBS += $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a $$PWD/src/leveldb/libmemenv.a
SOURCES += src/txdb-leveldb.cpp
!win32 {
    # we use QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE even without RELEASE=1 because we use RELEASE to indicate linking preferences not -O preferences
    genleveldb.commands = cd $$PWD/src/leveldb && CC=$$QMAKE_CC CXX=$$QMAKE_CXX $(MAKE) OPT=\"$$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS $$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE\" libleveldb.a libmemenv.a
} else {
    # make an educated guess about what the ranlib command is called
    isEmpty(QMAKE_RANLIB) {
        QMAKE_RANLIB = $$replace(QMAKE_STRIP, strip, ranlib)
    }
    LIBS += -lshlwapi
    #genleveldb.commands = cd $$PWD/src/leveldb && CC=$$QMAKE_CC CXX=$$QMAKE_CXX TARGET_OS=OS_WINDOWS_CROSSCOMPILE $(MAKE) OPT=\"$$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS $$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE\" libleveldb.a libmemenv.a && $$QMAKE_RANLIB $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a && $$QMAKE_RANLIB $$PWD/src/leveldb/libmemenv.a
}
genleveldb.target = $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a
genleveldb.depends = FORCE
PRE_TARGETDEPS += $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a
QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += genleveldb
# Gross ugly hack that depends on qmake internals, unfortunately there is no other way to do it.
QMAKE_CLEAN += $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a; cd $$PWD/src/leveldb ; $(MAKE) clean

# regenerate src/build.h
!windows|contains(USE_BUILD_INFO, 1) {
    genbuild.depends = FORCE
    genbuild.commands = cd $$PWD; /bin/sh share/genbuild.sh $$OUT_PWD/build/build.h
    genbuild.target = $$OUT_PWD/build/build.h
    PRE_TARGETDEPS += $$OUT_PWD/build/build.h
    QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += genbuild
    DEFINES += HAVE_BUILD_INFO
}

contains(USE_O3, 1) {
    message(Building O3 optimization flag)
    QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE -= -O2
    QMAKE_CFLAGS_RELEASE -= -O2
    QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -O3
    QMAKE_CFLAGS += -O3
}

*-g++-32 {
    message("32 platform, adding -msse2 flag")

    QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -msse2
    QMAKE_CFLAGS += -msse2
}

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_WARN_ON = -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wall -Wextra -Wno-ignored-qualifiers -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstack-protector

# Input
DEPENDPATH += src src/json src/qt
HEADERS += src/qt/bitcoingui.h \
    src/qt/transactiontablemodel.h \
    src/qt/addresstablemodel.h \
    src/qt/optionsdialog.h \
    src/qt/coincontroldialog.h \
    src/qt/coincontroltreewidget.h \
    src/qt/sendcoinsdialog.h \
    src/qt/addressbookpage.h \
    src/qt/signverifymessagedialog.h \
    src/qt/aboutdialog.h \
    src/qt/editaddressdialog.h \
    src/qt/bitcoinaddressvalidator.h \
    src/alert.h \
    src/addrman.h \
    src/base58.h \
    src/bignum.h \
    src/checkpoints.h \
    src/compat.h \
    src/coincontrol.h \
    src/sync.h \
    src/util.h \
    src/uint256.h \
    src/kernel.h \
    src/scrypt.h \
    src/pbkdf2.h \
    src/zerocoin/Accumulator.h \
    src/zerocoin/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.h \
    src/zerocoin/Coin.h \
    src/zerocoin/CoinSpend.h \
    src/zerocoin/Commitment.h \
    src/zerocoin/ParamGeneration.h \
    src/zerocoin/Params.h \
    src/zerocoin/SerialNumberSignatureOfKnowledge.h \
    src/zerocoin/SpendMetaData.h \
    src/zerocoin/ZeroTest.h \
    src/zerocoin/Zerocoin.h \
    src/serialize.h \
    src/strlcpy.h \
    src/main.h \
    src/miner.h \
    src/net.h \
    src/key.h \
    src/db.h \
    src/txdb.h \
    src/walletdb.h \
    src/script.h \
    src/init.h \
    src/irc.h \
    src/mruset.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_writer_template.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_writer.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_value.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_utils.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_stream_reader.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_reader_template.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_reader.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_error_position.h \
    src/json/json_spirit.h \
    src/qt/clientmodel.h \
    src/qt/guiutil.h \
    src/qt/transactionrecord.h \
    src/qt/guiconstants.h \
    src/qt/optionsmodel.h \
    src/qt/monitoreddatamapper.h \
    src/qt/transactiondesc.h \
    src/qt/transactiondescdialog.h \
    src/qt/bitcoinamountfield.h \
    src/wallet.h \
    src/keystore.h \
    src/qt/transactionfilterproxy.h \
    src/qt/transactionview.h \
    src/qt/walletmodel.h \
    src/bitcoinrpc.h \
    src/qt/overviewpage.h \
    src/qt/csvmodelwriter.h \
    src/crypter.h \
    src/qt/sendcoinsentry.h \
    src/qt/qvalidatedlineedit.h \
    src/qt/bitcoinunits.h \
    src/qt/qvaluecombobox.h \
    src/qt/askpassphrasedialog.h \
    src/protocol.h \
    src/qt/notificator.h \
    src/qt/qtipcserver.h \
    src/allocators.h \
    src/ui_interface.h \
    src/qt/rpcconsole.h \
    src/version.h \
    src/netbase.h \
    src/clientversion.h

SOURCES += src/qt/bitcoin.cpp src/qt/bitcoingui.cpp \
    src/qt/transactiontablemodel.cpp \
    src/qt/addresstablemodel.cpp \
    src/qt/optionsdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/sendcoinsdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/coincontroldialog.cpp \
    src/qt/coincontroltreewidget.cpp \
    src/qt/addressbookpage.cpp \
    src/qt/signverifymessagedialog.cpp \
    src/qt/aboutdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/editaddressdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinaddressvalidator.cpp \
    src/alert.cpp \
    src/version.cpp \
    src/sync.cpp \
    src/util.cpp \
    src/netbase.cpp \
    src/key.cpp \
    src/script.cpp \
    src/main.cpp \
    src/miner.cpp \
    src/init.cpp \
    src/net.cpp \
    src/irc.cpp \
    src/checkpoints.cpp \
    src/addrman.cpp \
    src/db.cpp \
    src/walletdb.cpp \
    src/qt/clientmodel.cpp \
    src/qt/guiutil.cpp \
    src/qt/transactionrecord.cpp \
    src/qt/optionsmodel.cpp \
    src/qt/monitoreddatamapper.cpp \
    src/qt/transactiondesc.cpp \
    src/qt/transactiondescdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinstrings.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinamountfield.cpp \
    src/wallet.cpp \
    src/keystore.cpp \
    src/qt/transactionfilterproxy.cpp \
    src/qt/transactionview.cpp \
    src/qt/walletmodel.cpp \
    src/bitcoinrpc.cpp \
    src/rpcdump.cpp \
    src/rpcnet.cpp \
    src/rpcmining.cpp \
    src/rpcwallet.cpp \
    src/rpcblockchain.cpp \
    src/rpcrawtransaction.cpp \
    src/qt/overviewpage.cpp \
    src/qt/csvmodelwriter.cpp \
    src/crypter.cpp \
    src/qt/sendcoinsentry.cpp \
    src/qt/qvalidatedlineedit.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinunits.cpp \
    src/qt/qvaluecombobox.cpp \
    src/qt/askpassphrasedialog.cpp \
    src/protocol.cpp \
    src/qt/notificator.cpp \
    src/qt/qtipcserver.cpp \
    src/qt/rpcconsole.cpp \
    src/noui.cpp \
    src/kernel.cpp \
    src/scrypt-arm.S \
    src/scrypt-x86.S \
    src/scrypt-x86_64.S \
    src/scrypt.cpp \
    src/pbkdf2.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Accumulator.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Coin.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/CoinSpend.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Commitment.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/ParamGeneration.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Params.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/SerialNumberSignatureOfKnowledge.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/SpendMetaData.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/ZeroTest.cpp

RESOURCES += \
    src/qt/bitcoin.qrc

FORMS += \
    src/qt/forms/coincontroldialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/sendcoinsdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/addressbookpage.ui \
    src/qt/forms/signverifymessagedialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/aboutdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/editaddressdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/transactiondescdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/overviewpage.ui \
    src/qt/forms/sendcoinsentry.ui \
    src/qt/forms/askpassphrasedialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/rpcconsole.ui \
    src/qt/forms/optionsdialog.ui

contains(USE_QRCODE, 1) {
HEADERS += src/qt/qrcodedialog.h
SOURCES += src/qt/qrcodedialog.cpp
FORMS += src/qt/forms/qrcodedialog.ui
}

CODECFORTR = UTF-8

# for lrelease/lupdate
# also add new translations to src/qt/bitcoin.qrc under translations/
TRANSLATIONS = $$files(src/qt/locale/bitcoin_*.ts)

isEmpty(QMAKE_LRELEASE) {
    win32:QMAKE_LRELEASE = $$[QT_INSTALL_BINS]\\lrelease.exe
    else:QMAKE_LRELEASE = $$[QT_INSTALL_BINS]/lrelease
}
isEmpty(QM_DIR):QM_DIR = $$PWD/src/qt/locale
# automatically build translations, so they can be included in resource file
TSQM.name = lrelease ${QMAKE_FILE_IN}
TSQM.input = TRANSLATIONS
TSQM.output = $$QM_DIR/${QMAKE_FILE_BASE}.qm
TSQM.commands = $$QMAKE_LRELEASE ${QMAKE_FILE_IN} -qm ${QMAKE_FILE_OUT}
TSQM.CONFIG = no_link
QMAKE_EXTRA_COMPILERS += TSQM

# "Other files" to show in Qt Creator
OTHER_FILES += \
    doc/*.rst doc/*.txt doc/README README.md res/bitcoin-qt.rc

# platform specific defaults, if not overridden on command line
isEmpty(BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX) {
    macx:BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX = -mt
    windows:BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX = -mt
}

isEmpty(BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX) {
    win32:BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX = _win32$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX
    else:BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX = $$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX
}

isEmpty(BDB_LIB_PATH) {
    macx:BDB_LIB_PATH = /opt/local/lib/db48
}

isEmpty(BDB_LIB_SUFFIX) {
    macx:BDB_LIB_SUFFIX = -4.8
}

isEmpty(BDB_INCLUDE_PATH) {
    macx:BDB_INCLUDE_PATH = /opt/local/include/db48
}

isEmpty(BOOST_LIB_PATH) {
    macx:BOOST_LIB_PATH = /opt/local/lib
}

isEmpty(BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH) {
    macx:BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH = /opt/local/include
}

windows:DEFINES += WIN32
windows:RC_FILE = src/qt/res/bitcoin-qt.rc

windows:!contains(MINGW_THREAD_BUGFIX, 0) {
    # At least qmake's win32-g++-cross profile is missing the -lmingwthrd
    # thread-safety flag. GCC has -mthreads to enable this, but it doesn't
    # work with static linking. -lmingwthrd must come BEFORE -lmingw, so
    # it is prepended to QMAKE_LIBS_QT_ENTRY.
    # It can be turned off with MINGW_THREAD_BUGFIX=0, just in case it causes
    # any problems on some untested qmake profile now or in the future.
    DEFINES += _MT BOOST_THREAD_PROVIDES_GENERIC_SHARED_MUTEX_ON_WIN
    QMAKE_LIBS_QT_ENTRY = -lmingwthrd $$QMAKE_LIBS_QT_ENTRY
}

macx:HEADERS += src/qt/macdockiconhandler.h
macx:OBJECTIVE_SOURCES += src/qt/macdockiconhandler.mm
macx:LIBS += -framework Foundation -framework ApplicationServices -framework AppKit
macx:DEFINES += MAC_OSX MSG_NOSIGNAL=0
macx:ICON = src/qt/res/icons/bitcoin.icns
macx:TARGET = "Swing-Qt"
macx:QMAKE_CFLAGS_THREAD += -pthread
macx:QMAKE_LFLAGS_THREAD += -pthread
macx:QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_THREAD += -pthread

# Set libraries and includes at end, to use platform-defined defaults if not overridden
INCLUDEPATH += $$BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH $$BDB_INCLUDE_PATH $$OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH $$QRENCODE_INCLUDE_PATH
LIBS += $$join(BOOST_LIB_PATH,,-L,) $$join(BDB_LIB_PATH,,-L,) $$join(OPENSSL_LIB_PATH,,-L,) $$join(QRENCODE_LIB_PATH,,-L,)
LIBS += -lssl -lcrypto -ldb_cxx$$BDB_LIB_SUFFIX
# -lgdi32 has to happen after -lcrypto (see  #681)
windows:LIBS += -lws2_32 -lshlwapi -lmswsock -lole32 -loleaut32 -luuid -lgdi32
LIBS += -lboost_system$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX -lboost_filesystem$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX -lboost_program_options$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX -lboost_thread$$BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX
windows:LIBS += -lboost_chrono$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX

contains(RELEASE, 1) {
    !windows:!macx {
        # Linux: turn dynamic linking back on for c/c++ runtime libraries
        LIBS += -Wl,-Bdynamic
    }
}

!windows:!macx {
    DEFINES += LINUX
    LIBS += -lrt -ldl
}

system($$QMAKE_LRELEASE -silent $$_PRO_FILE_)

The build process may be different for other wallets though. Let me know if you get it to work.


Also your build is pointing to things that don't exist. Masternodes for example. https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/tree/master/src


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 34%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 03, 2015, 05:13:02 PM
hey was wondering if swing was a ico ?

I don't think so, this is just like Greed Evolved, right?  No ICO there unless I missed something...all about swapping, correct?

I have one question:  Is staking up?  Or does POS start another time?

Not an ICO, just upgrading the GE holders to the new chain. Nobody wants to be a bagholder.  :)

Staking started at block 1, you can start cracking blocks whenever you want.

i try to compile the mac o linux wallet ! same error :

Code:
qmake
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP support
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP supportProject MESSAGE: Building with DBUS (Freedesktop notifications) supportRemoved plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
Removed plural forms as the target language has less forms.
If this sounds wrong, possibly the target language is not set or recognized.
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/darksendconfig.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/darksend.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/rpcdarksend.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/instantx.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/activemasternode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/spork.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternodeconfig.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/addeditadrenalinenode.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/masternodemanager.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/darksendconfig.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/masternode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/darksend.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/instantx.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/activemasternode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/spork.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/addeditadrenalinenode.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/masternodemanager.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/darksendconfig.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/addeditadrenalinenode.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.ui
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/forms/masternodemanager.ui

Thanks for trying this, I've only done windows wallets but I still might be able to help.

Try compiling without UPNP support. Here's my compile commands used for the windows wallet:
Code:
in msys---
cd /C/Swing/src/leveldb
TARGET_OS=NATIVE_WINDOWS make libleveldb.a libmemenv.a
in cmd---
set PATH=%PATH%;C:\Qt\5.3.2\bin
cd C:\Swing\
qmake "USE_QRCODE=1" "USE_UPNP=-" "USE_IPV6=1" Swing-qt.pro
mingw32-make -f Makefile.Release

And here's my Swing-qt for windows wallet (notice you have to add in the location of the deps you've installed near the top):

Code:
TEMPLATE = app
TARGET = Swing-qt
VERSION = 1.0.7
INCLUDEPATH += src src/json src/qt
DEFINES += QT_GUI BOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB BOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE
CONFIG += no_include_pwd
CONFIG += thread


CONFIG += static


greaterThan(QT_MAJOR_VERSION, 4) {
    QT += widgets
    DEFINES += QT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE=0
}

# for boost 1.37, add -mt to the boost libraries
# use: qmake BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX=-mt
# for boost thread win32 with _win32 sufix
# use: BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX=_win32-...
# or when linking against a specific BerkelyDB version: BDB_LIB_SUFFIX=-4.8

# Dependency library locations can be customized with:
#    BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH, BOOST_LIB_PATH, BDB_INCLUDE_PATH,
#    BDB_LIB_PATH, OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH and OPENSSL_LIB_PATH respectively

BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX=-mgw49-mt-s-1_55
BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX=-mgw49-mt-s-1_55
BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/boost_1_55_0
BOOST_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/boost_1_55_0/stage/lib
BDB_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/db-5.3.28.NC/build_unix
BDB_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/db-5.3.28.NC/build_unix
OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/openssl-1.0.1g/include
OPENSSL_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/openssl-1.0.1g
MINIUPNPC_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/
MINIUPNPC_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/miniupnpc
QRENCODE_INCLUDE_PATH=C:/deps/qrencode-3.4.4
QRENCODE_LIB_PATH=C:/deps/qrencode-3.4.4/.libs

OBJECTS_DIR = build
MOC_DIR = build
UI_DIR = build

# use: qmake "RELEASE=1"
contains(RELEASE, 1) {
    # Mac: compile for maximum compatibility (10.5, 32-bit)
    macx:QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -mmacosx-version-min=10.5 -arch x86_64 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.5.sdk

    !windows:!macx {
        # Linux: static link
        LIBS += -Wl,-Bstatic
    }
}

!win32 {
# for extra security against potential buffer overflows: enable GCCs Stack Smashing Protection
QMAKE_CXXFLAGS *= -fstack-protector-all --param ssp-buffer-size=1
QMAKE_LFLAGS *= -fstack-protector-all --param ssp-buffer-size=1
# We need to exclude this for Windows cross compile with MinGW 4.2.x, as it will result in a non-working executable!
# This can be enabled for Windows, when we switch to MinGW >= 4.4.x.
}
# for extra security on Windows: enable ASLR and DEP via GCC linker flags
win32:QMAKE_LFLAGS *= -Wl,--large-address-aware -static
win32:QMAKE_LFLAGS += -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++


# use: qmake "USE_QRCODE=1"
# libqrencode (http://fukuchi.org/works/qrencode/index.en.html) must be installed for support
contains(USE_QRCODE, 1) {
    message(Building with QRCode support)
    DEFINES += USE_QRCODE
    LIBS += -lqrencode
}

# use: qmake "USE_UPNP=1" ( enabled by default; default)
#  or: qmake "USE_UPNP=0" (disabled by default)
#  or: qmake "USE_UPNP=-" (not supported)
# miniupnpc (http://miniupnp.free.fr/files/) must be installed for support
contains(USE_UPNP, -) {
    message(Building without UPNP support)
} else {
    message(Building with UPNP support)
    count(USE_UPNP, 0) {
        USE_UPNP=1
    }
    DEFINES += USE_UPNP=$$USE_UPNP STATICLIB
    INCLUDEPATH += $$MINIUPNPC_INCLUDE_PATH
    LIBS += $$join(MINIUPNPC_LIB_PATH,,-L,) -lminiupnpc
    win32:LIBS += -liphlpapi
}

# use: qmake "USE_DBUS=1" or qmake "USE_DBUS=0"
linux:count(USE_DBUS, 0) {
    USE_DBUS=1
}
contains(USE_DBUS, 1) {
    message(Building with DBUS (Freedesktop notifications) support)
    DEFINES += USE_DBUS
    QT += dbus
}

contains(BITCOIN_NEED_QT_PLUGINS, 1) {
    DEFINES += BITCOIN_NEED_QT_PLUGINS
    QTPLUGIN += qcncodecs qjpcodecs qtwcodecs qkrcodecs qtaccessiblewidgets
}

INCLUDEPATH += src/leveldb/include src/leveldb/helpers
LIBS += $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a $$PWD/src/leveldb/libmemenv.a
SOURCES += src/txdb-leveldb.cpp
!win32 {
    # we use QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE even without RELEASE=1 because we use RELEASE to indicate linking preferences not -O preferences
    genleveldb.commands = cd $$PWD/src/leveldb && CC=$$QMAKE_CC CXX=$$QMAKE_CXX $(MAKE) OPT=\"$$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS $$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE\" libleveldb.a libmemenv.a
} else {
    # make an educated guess about what the ranlib command is called
    isEmpty(QMAKE_RANLIB) {
        QMAKE_RANLIB = $$replace(QMAKE_STRIP, strip, ranlib)
    }
    LIBS += -lshlwapi
    #genleveldb.commands = cd $$PWD/src/leveldb && CC=$$QMAKE_CC CXX=$$QMAKE_CXX TARGET_OS=OS_WINDOWS_CROSSCOMPILE $(MAKE) OPT=\"$$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS $$QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE\" libleveldb.a libmemenv.a && $$QMAKE_RANLIB $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a && $$QMAKE_RANLIB $$PWD/src/leveldb/libmemenv.a
}
genleveldb.target = $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a
genleveldb.depends = FORCE
PRE_TARGETDEPS += $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a
QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += genleveldb
# Gross ugly hack that depends on qmake internals, unfortunately there is no other way to do it.
QMAKE_CLEAN += $$PWD/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a; cd $$PWD/src/leveldb ; $(MAKE) clean

# regenerate src/build.h
!windows|contains(USE_BUILD_INFO, 1) {
    genbuild.depends = FORCE
    genbuild.commands = cd $$PWD; /bin/sh share/genbuild.sh $$OUT_PWD/build/build.h
    genbuild.target = $$OUT_PWD/build/build.h
    PRE_TARGETDEPS += $$OUT_PWD/build/build.h
    QMAKE_EXTRA_TARGETS += genbuild
    DEFINES += HAVE_BUILD_INFO
}

contains(USE_O3, 1) {
    message(Building O3 optimization flag)
    QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_RELEASE -= -O2
    QMAKE_CFLAGS_RELEASE -= -O2
    QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -O3
    QMAKE_CFLAGS += -O3
}

*-g++-32 {
    message("32 platform, adding -msse2 flag")

    QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -msse2
    QMAKE_CFLAGS += -msse2
}

QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_WARN_ON = -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wall -Wextra -Wno-ignored-qualifiers -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstack-protector

# Input
DEPENDPATH += src src/json src/qt
HEADERS += src/qt/bitcoingui.h \
    src/qt/transactiontablemodel.h \
    src/qt/addresstablemodel.h \
    src/qt/optionsdialog.h \
    src/qt/coincontroldialog.h \
    src/qt/coincontroltreewidget.h \
    src/qt/sendcoinsdialog.h \
    src/qt/addressbookpage.h \
    src/qt/signverifymessagedialog.h \
    src/qt/aboutdialog.h \
    src/qt/editaddressdialog.h \
    src/qt/bitcoinaddressvalidator.h \
    src/alert.h \
    src/addrman.h \
    src/base58.h \
    src/bignum.h \
    src/checkpoints.h \
    src/compat.h \
    src/coincontrol.h \
    src/sync.h \
    src/util.h \
    src/uint256.h \
    src/kernel.h \
    src/scrypt.h \
    src/pbkdf2.h \
    src/zerocoin/Accumulator.h \
    src/zerocoin/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.h \
    src/zerocoin/Coin.h \
    src/zerocoin/CoinSpend.h \
    src/zerocoin/Commitment.h \
    src/zerocoin/ParamGeneration.h \
    src/zerocoin/Params.h \
    src/zerocoin/SerialNumberSignatureOfKnowledge.h \
    src/zerocoin/SpendMetaData.h \
    src/zerocoin/ZeroTest.h \
    src/zerocoin/Zerocoin.h \
    src/serialize.h \
    src/strlcpy.h \
    src/main.h \
    src/miner.h \
    src/net.h \
    src/key.h \
    src/db.h \
    src/txdb.h \
    src/walletdb.h \
    src/script.h \
    src/init.h \
    src/irc.h \
    src/mruset.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_writer_template.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_writer.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_value.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_utils.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_stream_reader.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_reader_template.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_reader.h \
    src/json/json_spirit_error_position.h \
    src/json/json_spirit.h \
    src/qt/clientmodel.h \
    src/qt/guiutil.h \
    src/qt/transactionrecord.h \
    src/qt/guiconstants.h \
    src/qt/optionsmodel.h \
    src/qt/monitoreddatamapper.h \
    src/qt/transactiondesc.h \
    src/qt/transactiondescdialog.h \
    src/qt/bitcoinamountfield.h \
    src/wallet.h \
    src/keystore.h \
    src/qt/transactionfilterproxy.h \
    src/qt/transactionview.h \
    src/qt/walletmodel.h \
    src/bitcoinrpc.h \
    src/qt/overviewpage.h \
    src/qt/csvmodelwriter.h \
    src/crypter.h \
    src/qt/sendcoinsentry.h \
    src/qt/qvalidatedlineedit.h \
    src/qt/bitcoinunits.h \
    src/qt/qvaluecombobox.h \
    src/qt/askpassphrasedialog.h \
    src/protocol.h \
    src/qt/notificator.h \
    src/qt/qtipcserver.h \
    src/allocators.h \
    src/ui_interface.h \
    src/qt/rpcconsole.h \
    src/version.h \
    src/netbase.h \
    src/clientversion.h

SOURCES += src/qt/bitcoin.cpp src/qt/bitcoingui.cpp \
    src/qt/transactiontablemodel.cpp \
    src/qt/addresstablemodel.cpp \
    src/qt/optionsdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/sendcoinsdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/coincontroldialog.cpp \
    src/qt/coincontroltreewidget.cpp \
    src/qt/addressbookpage.cpp \
    src/qt/signverifymessagedialog.cpp \
    src/qt/aboutdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/editaddressdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinaddressvalidator.cpp \
    src/alert.cpp \
    src/version.cpp \
    src/sync.cpp \
    src/util.cpp \
    src/netbase.cpp \
    src/key.cpp \
    src/script.cpp \
    src/main.cpp \
    src/miner.cpp \
    src/init.cpp \
    src/net.cpp \
    src/irc.cpp \
    src/checkpoints.cpp \
    src/addrman.cpp \
    src/db.cpp \
    src/walletdb.cpp \
    src/qt/clientmodel.cpp \
    src/qt/guiutil.cpp \
    src/qt/transactionrecord.cpp \
    src/qt/optionsmodel.cpp \
    src/qt/monitoreddatamapper.cpp \
    src/qt/transactiondesc.cpp \
    src/qt/transactiondescdialog.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinstrings.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinamountfield.cpp \
    src/wallet.cpp \
    src/keystore.cpp \
    src/qt/transactionfilterproxy.cpp \
    src/qt/transactionview.cpp \
    src/qt/walletmodel.cpp \
    src/bitcoinrpc.cpp \
    src/rpcdump.cpp \
    src/rpcnet.cpp \
    src/rpcmining.cpp \
    src/rpcwallet.cpp \
    src/rpcblockchain.cpp \
    src/rpcrawtransaction.cpp \
    src/qt/overviewpage.cpp \
    src/qt/csvmodelwriter.cpp \
    src/crypter.cpp \
    src/qt/sendcoinsentry.cpp \
    src/qt/qvalidatedlineedit.cpp \
    src/qt/bitcoinunits.cpp \
    src/qt/qvaluecombobox.cpp \
    src/qt/askpassphrasedialog.cpp \
    src/protocol.cpp \
    src/qt/notificator.cpp \
    src/qt/qtipcserver.cpp \
    src/qt/rpcconsole.cpp \
    src/noui.cpp \
    src/kernel.cpp \
    src/scrypt-arm.S \
    src/scrypt-x86.S \
    src/scrypt-x86_64.S \
    src/scrypt.cpp \
    src/pbkdf2.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Accumulator.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Coin.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/CoinSpend.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Commitment.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/ParamGeneration.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/Params.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/SerialNumberSignatureOfKnowledge.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/SpendMetaData.cpp \
    src/zerocoin/ZeroTest.cpp

RESOURCES += \
    src/qt/bitcoin.qrc

FORMS += \
    src/qt/forms/coincontroldialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/sendcoinsdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/addressbookpage.ui \
    src/qt/forms/signverifymessagedialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/aboutdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/editaddressdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/transactiondescdialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/overviewpage.ui \
    src/qt/forms/sendcoinsentry.ui \
    src/qt/forms/askpassphrasedialog.ui \
    src/qt/forms/rpcconsole.ui \
    src/qt/forms/optionsdialog.ui

contains(USE_QRCODE, 1) {
HEADERS += src/qt/qrcodedialog.h
SOURCES += src/qt/qrcodedialog.cpp
FORMS += src/qt/forms/qrcodedialog.ui
}

CODECFORTR = UTF-8

# for lrelease/lupdate
# also add new translations to src/qt/bitcoin.qrc under translations/
TRANSLATIONS = $$files(src/qt/locale/bitcoin_*.ts)

isEmpty(QMAKE_LRELEASE) {
    win32:QMAKE_LRELEASE = $$[QT_INSTALL_BINS]\\lrelease.exe
    else:QMAKE_LRELEASE = $$[QT_INSTALL_BINS]/lrelease
}
isEmpty(QM_DIR):QM_DIR = $$PWD/src/qt/locale
# automatically build translations, so they can be included in resource file
TSQM.name = lrelease ${QMAKE_FILE_IN}
TSQM.input = TRANSLATIONS
TSQM.output = $$QM_DIR/${QMAKE_FILE_BASE}.qm
TSQM.commands = $$QMAKE_LRELEASE ${QMAKE_FILE_IN} -qm ${QMAKE_FILE_OUT}
TSQM.CONFIG = no_link
QMAKE_EXTRA_COMPILERS += TSQM

# "Other files" to show in Qt Creator
OTHER_FILES += \
    doc/*.rst doc/*.txt doc/README README.md res/bitcoin-qt.rc

# platform specific defaults, if not overridden on command line
isEmpty(BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX) {
    macx:BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX = -mt
    windows:BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX = -mt
}

isEmpty(BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX) {
    win32:BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX = _win32$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX
    else:BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX = $$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX
}

isEmpty(BDB_LIB_PATH) {
    macx:BDB_LIB_PATH = /opt/local/lib/db48
}

isEmpty(BDB_LIB_SUFFIX) {
    macx:BDB_LIB_SUFFIX = -4.8
}

isEmpty(BDB_INCLUDE_PATH) {
    macx:BDB_INCLUDE_PATH = /opt/local/include/db48
}

isEmpty(BOOST_LIB_PATH) {
    macx:BOOST_LIB_PATH = /opt/local/lib
}

isEmpty(BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH) {
    macx:BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH = /opt/local/include
}

windows:DEFINES += WIN32
windows:RC_FILE = src/qt/res/bitcoin-qt.rc

windows:!contains(MINGW_THREAD_BUGFIX, 0) {
    # At least qmake's win32-g++-cross profile is missing the -lmingwthrd
    # thread-safety flag. GCC has -mthreads to enable this, but it doesn't
    # work with static linking. -lmingwthrd must come BEFORE -lmingw, so
    # it is prepended to QMAKE_LIBS_QT_ENTRY.
    # It can be turned off with MINGW_THREAD_BUGFIX=0, just in case it causes
    # any problems on some untested qmake profile now or in the future.
    DEFINES += _MT BOOST_THREAD_PROVIDES_GENERIC_SHARED_MUTEX_ON_WIN
    QMAKE_LIBS_QT_ENTRY = -lmingwthrd $$QMAKE_LIBS_QT_ENTRY
}

macx:HEADERS += src/qt/macdockiconhandler.h
macx:OBJECTIVE_SOURCES += src/qt/macdockiconhandler.mm
macx:LIBS += -framework Foundation -framework ApplicationServices -framework AppKit
macx:DEFINES += MAC_OSX MSG_NOSIGNAL=0
macx:ICON = src/qt/res/icons/bitcoin.icns
macx:TARGET = "Swing-Qt"
macx:QMAKE_CFLAGS_THREAD += -pthread
macx:QMAKE_LFLAGS_THREAD += -pthread
macx:QMAKE_CXXFLAGS_THREAD += -pthread

# Set libraries and includes at end, to use platform-defined defaults if not overridden
INCLUDEPATH += $$BOOST_INCLUDE_PATH $$BDB_INCLUDE_PATH $$OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH $$QRENCODE_INCLUDE_PATH
LIBS += $$join(BOOST_LIB_PATH,,-L,) $$join(BDB_LIB_PATH,,-L,) $$join(OPENSSL_LIB_PATH,,-L,) $$join(QRENCODE_LIB_PATH,,-L,)
LIBS += -lssl -lcrypto -ldb_cxx$$BDB_LIB_SUFFIX
# -lgdi32 has to happen after -lcrypto (see  #681)
windows:LIBS += -lws2_32 -lshlwapi -lmswsock -lole32 -loleaut32 -luuid -lgdi32
LIBS += -lboost_system$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX -lboost_filesystem$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX -lboost_program_options$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX -lboost_thread$$BOOST_THREAD_LIB_SUFFIX
windows:LIBS += -lboost_chrono$$BOOST_LIB_SUFFIX

contains(RELEASE, 1) {
    !windows:!macx {
        # Linux: turn dynamic linking back on for c/c++ runtime libraries
        LIBS += -Wl,-Bdynamic
    }
}

!windows:!macx {
    DEFINES += LINUX
    LIBS += -lrt -ldl
}

system($$QMAKE_LRELEASE -silent $$_PRO_FILE_)

The build process may be different for other wallets though. Let me know if you get it to work.

Thanks for the info, good luck with swing :D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 03, 2015, 05:21:04 PM
Also your build is pointing to things that don't exist. Masternodes for example. https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/tree/master/src

Down to 30%

49,287.86385707 Seed coins remain

1107126.86143088 GE burned


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: mammix2 on September 03, 2015, 06:23:33 PM
Also your build is pointing to things that don't exist. Masternodes for example. https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/tree/master/src

Down to 30%

49,287.86385707 Seed coins remain

1107126.86143088 GE burned

Hey all

It's an issue with the source recipe files. Your .pro file references all those files that are missing from the /src and /src/qt folders.
Simple job, just comment out all those references and all will be fine.

e.g.
this file doesn't exist in the /src/qt but is referenced here in the .pro makefile
https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/blob/master/Swing-qt.pro#L318


Here is a compile i did earlier, give me a shout if anyone would like the compiled wallet. Donations welcome :)


http://s25.postimg.org/nofa9wawf/Screen_Shot_2015_09_03_at_19_16_06.png


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 03, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
how come it says "Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes."

when it's more like a few hours.

nice to see people copying spots idea of  coin swap - coin swap, I hope a bunch of a$$holes don't come to wreck it after a year plus of effort


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 03, 2015, 07:52:02 PM
how come it says "Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes."

when it's more like a few hours.

nice to see people copying spots idea of  coin swap - coin swap, I hope a bunch of a$$holes don't come to wreck it after a year plus of effort

Very small inputs may take longer than expected to gain their initial weight. Most are getting initial weight very quickly.

Been over 12 hours since I received the first coins, but still saying I don't have mature coins...  :-\
That is strange, got mine ~3hours ago and they started to gain weight right after..
Did you unlock your wallet?

You may have that issues if you have an extremely small amount of coins too.

I reinstalled and just now it started staking, but the small amount of coins probably was the reason.

Good to hear  :)

Also there are no plans for Swing to swap it's not designed as a 1-2 month staking game like Greed and GE was, and I'm not sure who spots is so..


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: Woody20285 on September 03, 2015, 08:17:58 PM
Dev: Fonzerelllie was referencing people's dissatisfaction with the coin swap IGotSpots did.
Spots swapped 4 coins into 1 and, 1 of the coins had just been sold to holders at $1 per coin
less than a month before the announced swap.

The 4 coins included 1 that were practically worthless. The $1 coins were cut from $ per
coin to $.12 per coin including staking prior to swap and the fact that they gained 6 to 1 for
their portion of the swap. Can't understand why people who just bought at $1 (like me),
got upset when forced into a swap before the $1 coin even hit an exchange and, in 
such a short time frame. Apparently, Spots sold the coin and then, woke up one morning and
decided to force swap it in with other coins (preplanned? Who knows).

It's old news but, you were unaware of the reference. Hopefully, it does not bring a shitstorm to your
thread. My apologies if it does. Spots has enthusiastic supporters and detracters.

There is a huge difference in your personal style and swaps.  You treat all with courtesy. All questions
are answered politely and without attack even from a clueless newbies (like me). Your swaps are for
the development and progress of the coin. You develop a market with an exchange long before a swap
so people can get out or continue on their choice.

Thank you - your openness, quality and kindness are a breath of fresh air.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 03, 2015, 08:37:42 PM
how come it says "Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes."

when it's more like a few hours.

nice to see people copying spots idea of  coin swap - coin swap, I hope a bunch of a$$holes don't come to wreck it after a year plus of effort

I average 30 min between stakes, and often get two on a row, ranging between 2 and 10 SWING.

A few days into staking and I have 570 SWING, raising my position by 16%. So whatever.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 03, 2015, 09:20:05 PM
Dev: Fonzerelllie was referencing people's dissatisfaction with the coin swap IGotSpots did.
Spots swapped 4 coins into 1 and, 1 of the coins had just been sold to holders at $1 per coin
less than a month before the announced swap.

The 4 coins included 1 that were practically worthless. The $1 coins were cut from $ per
coin to $.12 per coin including staking prior to swap and the fact that they gained 6 to 1 for
their portion of the swap. Can't understand why people who just bought at $1 (like me),
got upset when forced into a swap before the $1 coin even hit an exchange and, in 
such a short time frame. Apparently, Spots sold the coin and then, woke up one morning and
decided to force swap it in with other coins (preplanned? Who knows).

It's old news but, you were unaware of the reference. Hopefully, it does not bring a shitstorm to your
thread. My apologies if it does. Spots has enthusiastic supporters and detracters.

There is a huge difference in your personal style and swaps.  You treat all with courtesy. All questions
are answered politely and without attack even from a clueless newbies (like me). Your swaps are for
the development and progress of the coin. You develop a market with an exchange long before a swap
so people can get out or continue on their choice.

Thank you - your openness, quality and kindness are a breath of fresh air.

Thanks for the info & positive feedback  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 03, 2015, 10:58:18 PM
Dev: Fonzerelllie was referencing people's dissatisfaction with the coin swap IGotSpots did.
Spots swapped 4 coins into 1 and, 1 of the coins had just been sold to holders at $1 per coin
less than a month before the announced swap.

The 4 coins included 1 that were practically worthless. The $1 coins were cut from $ per
coin to $.12 per coin including staking prior to swap and the fact that they gained 6 to 1 for
their portion of the swap. Can't understand why people who just bought at $1 (like me),
got upset when forced into a swap before the $1 coin even hit an exchange and, in 
such a short time frame. Apparently, Spots sold the coin and then, woke up one morning and
decided to force swap it in with other coins (preplanned? Who knows).

It's old news but, you were unaware of the reference. Hopefully, it does not bring a shitstorm to your
thread. My apologies if it does. Spots has enthusiastic supporters and detracters.

There is a huge difference in your personal style and swaps.  You treat all with courtesy. All questions
are answered politely and without attack even from a clueless newbies (like me). Your swaps are for
the development and progress of the coin. You develop a market with an exchange long before a swap
so people can get out or continue on their choice.

Thank you - your openness, quality and kindness are a breath of fresh air.

Thanks for the info & positive feedback  :)

you're totally right, Spots f'd up his 4 into 1 swap ratios... but it turned out to be an awesome coin before it was exploited and they didn't allow him to fix it, it would probably be doing pretty good right now if they had. I like his NEG so far.

anywho this seems interesting and I'll keep an eye on it, I did own some greed at the start  8)

cheers


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 30%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 04, 2015, 04:14:40 AM
Sup Dev, and fellow Swingers  ;)

I've noticed something off with the wallet:

I've made two deposits today, from exchange to wallet.  The transaction itself works flawlessly (and FAST!), but the notification bubble doesn't pop up on the taskbar (which says incoming transaction) for HOURS!

I know it isn't that big of a deal, nothing risky, but shouldn't I get a notification approximately the same time it actually deposits into my wallet?

I keep thinking there are extra deposits incoming  :'(

Cheers!  :D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 26%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 04, 2015, 10:25:18 PM
Sup Dev, and fellow Swingers  ;)

I've noticed something off with the wallet:

I've made two deposits today, from exchange to wallet.  The transaction itself works flawlessly (and FAST!), but the notification bubble doesn't pop up on the taskbar (which says incoming transaction) for HOURS!

I know it isn't that big of a deal, nothing risky, but shouldn't I get a notification approximately the same time it actually deposits into my wallet?

I keep thinking there are extra deposits incoming  :'(

Cheers!  :D

I was not able to replicate this issue. Is anyone else having this problem?

Down to 24% btw.

42,253.21854886 SWING remaining.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 24%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: breakcoindev on September 04, 2015, 11:28:28 PM
Receive PM :)

gregofdoom


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 24%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: breakcoindev on September 04, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
THX murderouskirk, SWING in Wallet :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 24%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 04, 2015, 11:44:50 PM
I wish I could afford more...only 90 SWING  :(

I fear this could be the end of my glorious ride across the swap-lands of greed ;_;


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 24%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 04, 2015, 11:56:17 PM
I wish I could afford more...only 90 SWING  :(

I fear this could be the end of my glorious ride across the swap-lands of greed ;_;

There's nothing wrong with holding 90 SWING when the supply is so small. If you can manage to stake a few blocks at the right times you could generate plenty more too. :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 7%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 05, 2015, 01:46:22 AM
Lots of swaps today.

11,607.23706777 out of 160,000 Swing remains. (7%)

Please keep in mind that means only 116,072 GE can be converted to swing.

After that point any additional GE created through mining or staking cannot be converted!

If extra is sent before I am able to close the swap form I will do my best to get in contact VIA the supplied email to return any un-swapable GE before destroying the private keys to the burn addy.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 7%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: kevin1234a on September 05, 2015, 03:12:31 AM
6 connection but wallet is not syncing stuck on block 3986 already tried re syncing wallet version v1.0.0.1-g32a928e, any suggestions ?????


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 24%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 05, 2015, 03:27:04 AM
I wish I could afford more...only 90 SWING  :(

I fear this could be the end of my glorious ride across the swap-lands of greed ;_;

There's nothing wrong with holding 90 SWING when the supply is so small. If you can manage to stake a few blocks at the right times you could generate plenty more too. :)


Thanks for the reply - already staked one over four days, will definitely continue now


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 7%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zazarb on September 05, 2015, 12:46:39 PM
hello
my last transaction around 6 hour still unswap ,  plz check
    Hash: 908758b76fb64aa5e7ed529ca76ce4f3b5e0d09d77a8b2143479cde74de6b5c1
Appeared in GreedEvolved 133215 (2015-09-05 07:38:03)
Number of inputs: 64 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 1043.92718069
Number of outputs: 1 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 1043.92718069
Size: 7317 bytes
Fee: 0


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 7%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: breakcoindev on September 05, 2015, 01:17:36 PM
My wallet works great. I am in block 4919 and I have 7 connections .


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 7%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 05, 2015, 05:19:35 PM
6 connection but wallet is not syncing stuck on block 3986 already tried re syncing wallet version v1.0.0.1-g32a928e, any suggestions ?????

I am stuck on block 3013, any suggestions ??


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 05, 2015, 07:13:41 PM
6%

10,518.40571681 Swing remains.

Caught up with all swaps let me know if you didn't get your coins by now.

To those who seem stuck, have you gotten the rest of the chain yet?

Have you tried restarting the wallet?

Sometimes it just hangs for a little bit and catches up eventually. But if it's been hours I'd try restarting the wallet / maybe your pc. If that doesn't work maybe try backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything else in the swing folder in roaming then starting it back up to redownload from the start.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zazarb on September 05, 2015, 07:15:20 PM
6%

10,518.40571681 Swing remains.

Caught up with all swaps let me know if you didn't get your coins by now.

To those who seem stuck, have you gotten the rest of the chain yet?

Have you tried restarting the wallet?

Sometimes it just hangs for a little bit and catches up eventually. But if it's been hours I'd try restarting the wallet / maybe your pc. If that doesn't work maybe try backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything else in the swing folder in roaming then starting it back up to redownload from the start.
now see, thanks


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 05, 2015, 07:20:50 PM
6%

10,518.40571681 Swing remains.

Caught up with all swaps let me know if you didn't get your coins by now.

To those who seem stuck, have you gotten the rest of the chain yet?

Have you tried restarting the wallet?

Sometimes it just hangs for a little bit and catches up eventually. But if it's been hours I'd try restarting the wallet / maybe your pc. If that doesn't work maybe try backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything else in the swing folder in roaming then starting it back up to redownload from the start.

Tried restarting wallet, then rebooting the machine still stuck at block 3013 a couple hours later. I will try installing the wallet and restoring it later today.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 05, 2015, 07:22:09 PM
6%

10,518.40571681 Swing remains.

Caught up with all swaps let me know if you didn't get your coins by now.

To those who seem stuck, have you gotten the rest of the chain yet?

Have you tried restarting the wallet?

Sometimes it just hangs for a little bit and catches up eventually. But if it's been hours I'd try restarting the wallet / maybe your pc. If that doesn't work maybe try backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything else in the swing folder in roaming then starting it back up to redownload from the start.

Tried restarting wallet, then rebooting the machine still stuck at block 3013 a couple hours later. I will try installing the wallet and restoring it later today.

Let me know how it goes. I can't think of many reasons this would happen.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 05, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
Guys I think we could use a specialized trading chart.

Does anyone know if the tradingview api lets you put in more than a price line?

Would love to see a decent looking chart with:

Price
Volume
POS reward
POW reward
Estimated miners cost

Maybe even more info like:
Total Supply
Order book depth
etc...

Anyone know how we could get such a thing?

9,696.65591681 SWING seed coins remain


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: sparksi on September 05, 2015, 10:05:37 PM
Guys I think we could use a specialized trading chart.

Does anyone know if the tradingview api lets you put in more than a price line?

Would love to see a decent looking chart with:

Price
Volume
POS reward
POW reward
Estimated miners cost

Maybe even more info like:
Total Supply
Order book depth
etc...

Anyone know how we could get such a thing?

9,696.65591681 SWING seed coins remain

Presstab has some awesome features on his website: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/HYP/index.php


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 05, 2015, 10:33:09 PM
Guys I think we could use a specialized trading chart.

Does anyone know if the tradingview api lets you put in more than a price line?

Would love to see a decent looking chart with:

Price
Volume
POS reward
POW reward
Estimated miners cost

Maybe even more info like:
Total Supply
Order book depth
etc...

Anyone know how we could get such a thing?

9,696.65591681 SWING seed coins remain


Presstab has some awesome features on his website: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/HYP/index.php

Thanks just reached out to him. If anyone else knows of charting solutions or is capable of making custom charts let me know!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 05, 2015, 11:30:53 PM
Chatting with a developer frind atm to see if that chart is even possible.

Trying to figure out how to estimate the miners cost per coin.

I.E if a miner broke a block right now, how much would 1 Swing be worth to them?

generally you'd just see how much you spent and how many coins you got and do the math. But to estimate that?

Nicehash has an API that we could probably use to get an estimated cost of mining, but then what?

suchpool doesn't seem to have an api either but we can pull the difficulty and expected reward from the wallet.

Disclamer* Not saying we will get this custom chart for sure, just looking into it still.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 26%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 06, 2015, 01:52:42 AM
Sup Dev, and fellow Swingers  ;)

I've noticed something off with the wallet:

I've made two deposits today, from exchange to wallet.  The transaction itself works flawlessly (and FAST!), but the notification bubble doesn't pop up on the taskbar (which says incoming transaction) for HOURS!

I know it isn't that big of a deal, nothing risky, but shouldn't I get a notification approximately the same time it actually deposits into my wallet?

I keep thinking there are extra deposits incoming  :'(

Cheers!  :D

I was not able to replicate this issue. Is anyone else having this problem?

I've noticed that sometimes when I stake a block the notification bubble doesn't get dismissed if I don't click anywhere or hit any keys, so if I glance over at it later it's still there and I briefly think I may have gotten a payment. Is that what you are experiencing or delayed notifications? That's the closest I've been able to come to replicating the issue you described.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 26%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 06, 2015, 02:03:14 AM
Sup Dev, and fellow Swingers  ;)

I've noticed something off with the wallet:

I've made two deposits today, from exchange to wallet.  The transaction itself works flawlessly (and FAST!), but the notification bubble doesn't pop up on the taskbar (which says incoming transaction) for HOURS!

I know it isn't that big of a deal, nothing risky, but shouldn't I get a notification approximately the same time it actually deposits into my wallet?

I keep thinking there are extra deposits incoming  :'(

Cheers!  :D

I was not able to replicate this issue. Is anyone else having this problem?

I've noticed that sometimes when I stake a block the notification bubble doesn't get dismissed, so if I glance over at it later it's still there and I briefly think I may have gotten a payment. Is that what you are experiencing or delayed notifications? That's the closest I've been able to come to replicating the issue you described.

I don't think it's a dismissal error, but then again I've always closed the bubble manually.  Although the two times I did have incoming deposits, I can say with 100% certainty that it was a delayed notification.  I'd replicate it again if I could, just to see if it's my client in particular bugging out...but I got no SWING to bring in lol  :D that and my stake time has been on '3 hours remaining' for....two hours now!  I'll let you know if I hit a block...


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 26%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 06, 2015, 02:05:10 AM
Sup Dev, and fellow Swingers  ;)

I've noticed something off with the wallet:

I've made two deposits today, from exchange to wallet.  The transaction itself works flawlessly (and FAST!), but the notification bubble doesn't pop up on the taskbar (which says incoming transaction) for HOURS!

I know it isn't that big of a deal, nothing risky, but shouldn't I get a notification approximately the same time it actually deposits into my wallet?

I keep thinking there are extra deposits incoming  :'(

Cheers!  :D

I was not able to replicate this issue. Is anyone else having this problem?

I've noticed that sometimes when I stake a block the notification bubble doesn't get dismissed, so if I glance over at it later it's still there and I briefly think I may have gotten a payment. Is that what you are experiencing or delayed notifications? That's the closest I've been able to come to replicating the issue you described.

I don't think it's a dismissal error, but then again I've always closed the bubble manually.  Although the two times I did have incoming deposits, I can say with 100% certainty that it was a delayed notification.  I'd replicate it again if I could, just to see if it's my client in particular bugging out...but I got no SWING to bring in lol  :D that and my stake time has been on '3 hours remaining' for....two hours now!  I'll let you know if I hit a block...


Alright :)

Keep in mind that time is just a guestimate. If net weight or POS difficulty went up that would explain your estimate not going down. Just let it sit you should break blocks eventually.  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 26%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 06, 2015, 04:35:20 AM
Sup Dev, and fellow Swingers  ;)

I've noticed something off with the wallet:

I've made two deposits today, from exchange to wallet.  The transaction itself works flawlessly (and FAST!), but the notification bubble doesn't pop up on the taskbar (which says incoming transaction) for HOURS!

I know it isn't that big of a deal, nothing risky, but shouldn't I get a notification approximately the same time it actually deposits into my wallet?

I keep thinking there are extra deposits incoming  :'(

Cheers!  :D

I was not able to replicate this issue. Is anyone else having this problem?

I've noticed that sometimes when I stake a block the notification bubble doesn't get dismissed, so if I glance over at it later it's still there and I briefly think I may have gotten a payment. Is that what you are experiencing or delayed notifications? That's the closest I've been able to come to replicating the issue you described.

I don't think it's a dismissal error, but then again I've always closed the bubble manually.  Although the two times I did have incoming deposits, I can say with 100% certainty that it was a delayed notification.  I'd replicate it again if I could, just to see if it's my client in particular bugging out...but I got no SWING to bring in lol  :D that and my stake time has been on '3 hours remaining' for....two hours now!  I'll let you know if I hit a block...


Alright :)

Keep in mind that time is just a guestimate. If net weight or POS difficulty went up that would explain your estimate not going down. Just let it sit you should break blocks eventually.  :)

I've just noticed my wallet says 'out of sync' now?  I have 7 active connections, it's been running all day, but my 'three hours remaining' is still present.  Any ideas why this is happening?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: TheInfidel on September 06, 2015, 04:46:28 AM

I have 17 connections in my wallet, just received another stake of 5.21 coins.
So for me it is working flawlessly.



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: kevin1234a on September 06, 2015, 05:34:32 AM

I have 17 connections in my wallet, just received another stake of 5.21 coins.
So for me it is working flawlessly.



 can you share your node list?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 06, 2015, 05:36:46 AM

I have 17 connections in my wallet, just received another stake of 5.21 coins.
So for me it is working flawlessly.



 can you share your node list?

Are you having problems similar to mine? (two posts up)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 06, 2015, 05:37:29 AM
seems to build weight slowly, but I'm finding blocks... I figure you would need to have over 1000 coins to get it to say less than an hours wait

not having any syncing issues


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 06, 2015, 05:03:43 PM
8251.67654265 Swing remains. (5%!)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 06, 2015, 06:10:58 PM
6%

10,518.40571681 Swing remains.

Caught up with all swaps let me know if you didn't get your coins by now.

To those who seem stuck, have you gotten the rest of the chain yet?

Have you tried restarting the wallet?

Sometimes it just hangs for a little bit and catches up eventually. But if it's been hours I'd try restarting the wallet / maybe your pc. If that doesn't work maybe try backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything else in the swing folder in roaming then starting it back up to redownload from the start.

Tried restarting wallet, then rebooting the machine still stuck at block 3013 a couple hours later. I will try installing the wallet and restoring it later today.

Let me know how it goes. I can't think of many reasons this would happen.

So i installed the swing wallet using my wallet.dat as a different user on the same box. This time i got stuck at block 3004, but i was able to transfer my coins to yobit.

With my coins safe at yobit i removed the old original wallet and compiled a fresh wallet with a new wallet.dat file hoping this would resolve my issues, but once again it got stuck on block 3004.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 6%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 06, 2015, 06:54:45 PM
6%

10,518.40571681 Swing remains.

Caught up with all swaps let me know if you didn't get your coins by now.

To those who seem stuck, have you gotten the rest of the chain yet?

Have you tried restarting the wallet?

Sometimes it just hangs for a little bit and catches up eventually. But if it's been hours I'd try restarting the wallet / maybe your pc. If that doesn't work maybe try backing up your wallet.dat and deleting everything else in the swing folder in roaming then starting it back up to redownload from the start.

Tried restarting wallet, then rebooting the machine still stuck at block 3013 a couple hours later. I will try installing the wallet and restoring it later today.

Let me know how it goes. I can't think of many reasons this would happen.

So i installed the swing wallet using my wallet.dat as a different user on the same box. This time i got stuck at block 3004, but i was able to transfer my coins to yobit.

With my coins safe at yobit i removed the old original wallet and compiled a fresh wallet with a new wallet.dat file hoping this would resolve my issues, but once again it got stuck on block 3004.

very strange... I just checked the seed node to make sure everything was ok there and it's up to date at 6070. Yobit is also at 6070 as well as my personal wallets. Maybe try giving it one more fresh install and let it sit a little longer this time. I can get get you my peers file if you think that would help too. I've got 14 connections right now.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 06, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 06, 2015, 07:17:37 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



Thanks for this!

Guess what - as soon as I withdrew my coins back into the wallet....BAM! Instant notification balloon.  Not only that...BAM! No notification lingered!

Don't know what the problem was, but all caught up now.

Only downside is my coins aren't mature any more  :'(

Appreciate the help :D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 06, 2015, 10:35:03 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



Thanks for this!

Guess what - as soon as I withdrew my coins back into the wallet....BAM! Instant notification balloon.  Not only that...BAM! No notification lingered!

Don't know what the problem was, but all caught up now.

Only downside is my coins aren't mature any more  :'(

Appreciate the help :D

Good to hear!  ;D

7,200.57714265 SWING seed coins remain (4.5%)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 07, 2015, 12:33:22 AM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 07, 2015, 07:18:51 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 07, 2015, 08:43:43 PM
I will be away from my pc till tomorrow afternoon sometime. If you need me reach out to me through slack (Join in my footer, PM IAm_Crypto).


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 07, 2015, 09:03:45 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.

Ya i tryed your peer file, but still got stuck at block 3004 with 36 connections. I am running this on a VPS and would be happy to setup as a node if i can get everything working correctly.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 07, 2015, 09:32:27 PM
What's everyone doing with their SWING? Staking? Trading? Only asking because I have but 90SWING  :'(


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: breakcoindev on September 07, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
What's everyone doing with their SWING? Staking? Trading? Only asking because I have but 90SWING  :'(

Of course staking :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 07, 2015, 10:40:33 PM
What's everyone doing with their SWING? Staking? Trading? Only asking because I have but 90SWING  :'(

Are the any incentives for node hosting? I've been trying to think of ways to acquire more coins...!
Of course staking :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 07, 2015, 10:45:51 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.

Ya i tryed your peer file, but still got stuck at block 3004 with 36 connections. I am running this on a VPS and would be happy to setup as a node if i can get everything working correctly.

Try setting debug=1 in your conf file. You might be able to get some info out of it in the file it makes.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 07, 2015, 10:51:21 PM
What's everyone doing with their SWING? Staking? Trading? Only asking because I have but 90SWING  :'(

Are the any incentives for node hosting? I've been trying to think of ways to acquire more coins...!
Of course staking :)

someone was lucky enough to get some cheap from low buy orders, lol I was too impatient and bought from the sell wall.

you might be lucky enough to find a block or 2 a day with 90 coins, but you might want to break it up into 10 coin chunks so when you find a block you don't have to wait for your whole stash to mature again


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: MickyCOB on September 08, 2015, 01:31:39 PM
What's everyone doing with their SWING? Staking? Trading? Only asking because I have but 90SWING  :'(

Yes staking here too mate  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 08, 2015, 03:30:36 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.

Ya i tryed your peer file, but still got stuck at block 3004 with 36 connections. I am running this on a VPS and would be happy to setup as a node if i can get everything working correctly.

Try setting debug=1 in your conf file. You might be able to get some info out of it in the file it makes.



So i created a debug file like you suggested and after combing through it i found what seems to me where the error occurs starting at block 3005 and repeating every block after. Hopfuly this help give you an idea as to what my problem maybe caused by.

Code:
received: block (256 bytes)
received block 0000000000001a29c94c
ComputeNextStakeModifier: prev modifier=0xd05348b890b66422 time=2015-09-03 12:11:50 UTC
ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase reward exceeded (actual=1200000 vs calculated=1199999)
InvalidChainFound: invalid block=0000000000001a29c94c  height=3005  trust=14496107994403525608  blocktrust=1995525199418564  date=09/03/15 12:15:22
InvalidChainFound:  current best=bf08d8b87f952089955b  height=3004  trust=14494112469204107044  blocktrust=6179704  date=09/03/15 12:14:31
ERROR: SetBestChain() : SetBestChainInner failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 08, 2015, 08:27:49 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.

Ya i tryed your peer file, but still got stuck at block 3004 with 36 connections. I am running this on a VPS and would be happy to setup as a node if i can get everything working correctly.

Try setting debug=1 in your conf file. You might be able to get some info out of it in the file it makes.



So i created a debug file like you suggested and after combing through it i found what seems to me where the error occurs starting at block 3005 and repeating every block after. Hopfuly this help give you an idea as to what my problem maybe caused by.

Code:
received: block (256 bytes)
received block 0000000000001a29c94c
ComputeNextStakeModifier: prev modifier=0xd05348b890b66422 time=2015-09-03 12:11:50 UTC
ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase reward exceeded (actual=1200000 vs calculated=1199999)
InvalidChainFound: invalid block=0000000000001a29c94c  height=3005  trust=14496107994403525608  blocktrust=1995525199418564  date=09/03/15 12:15:22
InvalidChainFound:  current best=bf08d8b87f952089955b  height=3004  trust=14494112469204107044  blocktrust=6179704  date=09/03/15 12:14:31
ERROR: SetBestChain() : SetBestChainInner failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED

I've been trying to replicate this error without success. I tried downloading the chain both with and without a config file multiple times and was able to with my only connection being the seed node. I'm still looking into it some but:

What does your Swing.conf file look like?

Did you compile your own wallet?

When you try to download the chain, be sure you're doing the following:

1: Close the swing wallet

2: Go to C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Swing

3: Backup your wallet.dat if there are stored coins on your pc

4: Delete all the files in the swing folder

5: Start the swing wallet and let it get a connection & download.

If it fails, you might want to consider trying the wallet on a different PC or vm. You said you were running on a vm yes? It's possible that's causing some sort of conflict but that's just me going out on a limb to take additional guesses. You can also try downloading with and without your config file.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 08, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
On another note, miner rewards are about to go up to 80% so there are a larger amount of coins being created. Next comes 90%, then 100%.

After that miner rewards drop all the way back down to 10%, causing a decrease in new coin creation and an increase in miners cost.

Will be interesting to watch it play out for the first time.

Please remember that swaps will close at the end of the 10th (EST) as well. At that point GE price will no longer have any bearing on the price of Swing.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 08, 2015, 09:29:41 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.

Ya i tryed your peer file, but still got stuck at block 3004 with 36 connections. I am running this on a VPS and would be happy to setup as a node if i can get everything working correctly.

Try setting debug=1 in your conf file. You might be able to get some info out of it in the file it makes.



So i created a debug file like you suggested and after combing through it i found what seems to me where the error occurs starting at block 3005 and repeating every block after. Hopfuly this help give you an idea as to what my problem maybe caused by.

Code:
received: block (256 bytes)
received block 0000000000001a29c94c
ComputeNextStakeModifier: prev modifier=0xd05348b890b66422 time=2015-09-03 12:11:50 UTC
ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase reward exceeded (actual=1200000 vs calculated=1199999)
InvalidChainFound: invalid block=0000000000001a29c94c  height=3005  trust=14496107994403525608  blocktrust=1995525199418564  date=09/03/15 12:15:22
InvalidChainFound:  current best=bf08d8b87f952089955b  height=3004  trust=14494112469204107044  blocktrust=6179704  date=09/03/15 12:14:31
ERROR: SetBestChain() : SetBestChainInner failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED

I've been trying to replicate this error without success. I tried downloading the chain both with and without a config file multiple times and was able to with my only connection being the seed node. I'm still looking into it some but:

What does your Swing.conf file look like?

Did you compile your own wallet?

When you try to download the chain, be sure you're doing the following:

1: Close the swing wallet

2: Go to C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Swing

3: Backup your wallet.dat if there are stored coins on your pc

4: Delete all the files in the swing folder

5: Start the swing wallet and let it get a connection & download.

If it fails, you might want to consider trying the wallet on a different PC or vm. You said you were running on a vm yes? It's possible that's causing some sort of conflict but that's just me going out on a limb to take additional guesses. You can also try downloading with and without your config file.

Yes i complied my own wallet, and am running the Swingd from the command line. All this is running on a Ubuntu 14.04 x86 OpenVZ container VPS.

I am going to trying installing this wallet on a different and fresh OpenVZ container on a VPS i am going to be retiring in a month or so. I will let you know how that goes later tonight.

Thanks for you help.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 08, 2015, 10:24:53 PM
Here's a peers.dat from 9/6/15 2:57PM EST with 14 connections. Just do the initial startup to get your base files, close the wallet (backup your wallet.dat if neccessary), replace peers.dat, and start the wallet back up. You should get more connections faster. If you wait too long from the time of upload it may not work as well but I can always get you a fresh copy.

https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY (https://mega.nz/#!fZBWkI7T!0FbVukLFRcxl6jc3ieiWvN0A98VSIK2cgfxLOV8brLY)



I have a fresh wallet compiled and ready to fire up, murderouskirk I should be online for the next 5 hours if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again.

murderouskirk i should be popping online every hour or so all day so if your available to post an updated copy of your peers.dat i will try again (not really sure if thats the issue though as i have lots of connections).

Thanks for the help.

Sorry HashStatz I was away from my pc. Did you try it with the uploaded peers.dat?

On a similar note, if anyone wants to spin up Swing on a serer and share the IP we can put it as an addnode in the example config for better network connections.

Ya i tryed your peer file, but still got stuck at block 3004 with 36 connections. I am running this on a VPS and would be happy to setup as a node if i can get everything working correctly.

Try setting debug=1 in your conf file. You might be able to get some info out of it in the file it makes.



So i created a debug file like you suggested and after combing through it i found what seems to me where the error occurs starting at block 3005 and repeating every block after. Hopfuly this help give you an idea as to what my problem maybe caused by.

Code:
received: block (256 bytes)
received block 0000000000001a29c94c
ComputeNextStakeModifier: prev modifier=0xd05348b890b66422 time=2015-09-03 12:11:50 UTC
ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase reward exceeded (actual=1200000 vs calculated=1199999)
InvalidChainFound: invalid block=0000000000001a29c94c  height=3005  trust=14496107994403525608  blocktrust=1995525199418564  date=09/03/15 12:15:22
InvalidChainFound:  current best=bf08d8b87f952089955b  height=3004  trust=14494112469204107044  blocktrust=6179704  date=09/03/15 12:14:31
ERROR: SetBestChain() : SetBestChainInner failed
ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED

I've been trying to replicate this error without success. I tried downloading the chain both with and without a config file multiple times and was able to with my only connection being the seed node. I'm still looking into it some but:

What does your Swing.conf file look like?

Did you compile your own wallet?

When you try to download the chain, be sure you're doing the following:

1: Close the swing wallet

2: Go to C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Swing

3: Backup your wallet.dat if there are stored coins on your pc

4: Delete all the files in the swing folder

5: Start the swing wallet and let it get a connection & download.

If it fails, you might want to consider trying the wallet on a different PC or vm. You said you were running on a vm yes? It's possible that's causing some sort of conflict but that's just me going out on a limb to take additional guesses. You can also try downloading with and without your config file.

Yes i complied my own wallet, and am running the Swingd from the command line. All this is running on a Ubuntu 14.04 x86 OpenVZ container VPS.

I am going to trying installing this wallet on a different and fresh OpenVZ container on a VPS i am going to be retiring in a month or so. I will let you know how that goes later tonight.

Thanks for you help.

Ok cool. Please note that in a linux build you still have the same swing folder that needs deletion to redownload the chain.

(I'm guessing you know this since you enabled debug but just touching all bases I can think of)

You can probably find it at:

root/.Swing

or

cd ~
cd .Swing

It should be found in the same directory as the Swing folder and can be seen with 'ls -al'.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 08, 2015, 10:29:57 PM
Also if it helps I'm running the seed node on a 14.04 x64 image from digitalocean.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: chey on September 09, 2015, 12:55:46 AM
I'm having the same problem as HashStatz. I'm using 32bit Ubuntu and stuck on block 3004.

    "version" : "v1.0.0.1-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 61001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 09, 2015, 02:59:02 AM
I'm having the same problem as HashStatz. I'm using 32bit Ubuntu and stuck on block 3004.

    "version" : "v1.0.0.1-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 61001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


Trying to compile on a server as well?

Is it possible for you to try 64bit ubuntu 14.04?

Seems you both are trying to run on 32 bit. Might not make a difference but it's a connection between the two of you and the error.

Tomorrow I will try a fresh install on a fresh server(s) and see if I can replicate & fix the issue.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 09, 2015, 03:51:32 AM
I'm having the same problem as HashStatz. I'm using 32bit Ubuntu and stuck on block 3004.

    "version" : "v1.0.0.1-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 61001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


Trying to compile on a server as well?

Is it possible for you to try 64bit ubuntu 14.04?

Seems you both are trying to run on 32 bit. Might not make a difference but it's a connection between the two of you and the error.

Tomorrow I will try a fresh install on a fresh server(s) and see if I can replicate & fix the issue.

I was wondering the same thing about the 64bit connection between our problems.

I tried to compile the wallet tonight on the other VPS with a fresh copy Ubuntu 14.04 64bit. Unfortunately i ran into an issue with it only having 256MB of ram, and was unable to add a swap file like i have done in the past with other machines (looks like it has something to do with the provider has OpenVZ configured).

Time for bed now, i will look at spinning up another VPS tomorrow.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: hashmaster1 on September 09, 2015, 04:35:45 PM
What's everyone doing with their SWING? Staking? Trading? Only asking because I have but 90SWING  :'(

Yes staking here too mate  :)  Dont feel bad i have only 36.coin and my staking yesterday gave me9 coin and then 3 more so i got 12 coins staking yesterday just going to let stake and see where it take me wow it would b nice to make that daily i m just waiting to see how many i get today so if i stake for one year 4380but that figuring at 12 a day but as time goes on it would increase as it goes on staking so i could and up with 10000. or more well will just have to wait and see...................


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: chey on September 09, 2015, 05:02:42 PM
I'm having the same problem as HashStatz. I'm using 32bit Ubuntu and stuck on block 3004.

    "version" : "v1.0.0.1-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 61001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


Trying to compile on a server as well?

Is it possible for you to try 64bit ubuntu 14.04?

Seems you both are trying to run on 32 bit. Might not make a difference but it's a connection between the two of you and the error.

Tomorrow I will try a fresh install on a fresh server(s) and see if I can replicate & fix the issue.

Unfortunately I am am stuck with 32bit.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: shapetwist on September 09, 2015, 09:05:20 PM
Rewarding wise, very interesting.

Community wise? Further development?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: HashStatz on September 09, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
I'm having the same problem as HashStatz. I'm using 32bit Ubuntu and stuck on block 3004.

    "version" : "v1.0.0.1-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 61001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


Trying to compile on a server as well?

Is it possible for you to try 64bit ubuntu 14.04?

Seems you both are trying to run on 32 bit. Might not make a difference but it's a connection between the two of you and the error.

Tomorrow I will try a fresh install on a fresh server(s) and see if I can replicate & fix the issue.

Unfortunately I am am stuck with 32bit.

Installed the wallet on a Ubuntu 64bit VPS with a different provider and everything seems to be working properly now (on block 8931). If everything is still working in a couple hours i will transfer my coins and start staking again.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 09, 2015, 10:14:24 PM
I'm having the same problem as HashStatz. I'm using 32bit Ubuntu and stuck on block 3004.

    "version" : "v1.0.0.1-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 61001,
    "walletversion" : 60000,


Trying to compile on a server as well?

Is it possible for you to try 64bit ubuntu 14.04?

Seems you both are trying to run on 32 bit. Might not make a difference but it's a connection between the two of you and the error.

Tomorrow I will try a fresh install on a fresh server(s) and see if I can replicate & fix the issue.

Unfortunately I am am stuck with 32bit.

Installed the wallet on a Ubuntu 64bit VPS with a different provider and everything seems to be working properly now (on block 8931). If everything is still working in a couple hours i will transfer my coins and start staking again.

Hey that's great! It sounds like it was either a 32 bit issue or a provider issue then.

Rewarding wise, very interesting.

Community wise? Further development?

Promotion and community growth is slotted for after:

A: We make a full cycle and miners go back down to 10% rewards.
B: The swap ends at the end of tomorrow

The first week+ has been about getting the seed coins out, seeing what issues arise when it goes live (fortunately very few), and making sure everything is operating as intended (so far so good).

Once we make a full cycle is when I start looking to grab more people's attention no worries.  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zakorus on September 10, 2015, 08:13:45 AM
GE takes the price at the same level, but SWING falling day by day, if this trend continues quick price be comparable although the change was 1:10  :(


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: SIX3P0 on September 10, 2015, 03:36:22 PM
less than 200k....this thing is way undervalued, going to buy some up  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 10, 2015, 06:14:39 PM
GE takes the price at the same level, but SWING falling day by day, if this trend continues quick price be comparable although the change was 1:10  :(

did you not read the devs last post? or ya just like to complain for no reason


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: OBAViJEST on September 10, 2015, 07:16:02 PM
NOT AGAIN!

Wallet stuck out of sync, anyone know what the issue is this time?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 10, 2015, 08:11:20 PM
NOT AGAIN!

Wallet stuck out of sync, anyone know what the issue is this time?

I don't have a clue, I'm still fully sync'd with 8 connections and with no .conf file either

what op are you running it on? I'm just on windows 7


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 10, 2015, 08:21:03 PM
NOT AGAIN!

Wallet stuck out of sync, anyone know what the issue is this time?

Can I get some info from you?

I've been chatting with some other devs on the connection issues a couple of you have been experiencing and I think I'm making progress on understanding it.

What type of wallet? Server or GUI?

32 bit system or 64 bit system?

What operating system?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: malickie on September 10, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
Ok, so I am not 100% certain the wallets are actually out of sync or not.  I mainly say this because the wallet does start staking, even though the wallet says out of sync.  Usually if a wallet is out of Sync it will say "Not Staking Wallet out of Sync", or something along those lines.

Mine just for your information also states Out of Sync.

Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit.  Just in case you need the information.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 10, 2015, 09:31:13 PM
Ok, so I am not 100% certain the wallets are actually out of sync or not.  I mainly say this because the wallet does start staking, even though the wallet says out of sync.  Usually if a wallet is out of Sync it will say "Not Staking Wallet out of Sync", or something along those lines.

Mine just for your information also states Out of Sync.

Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit.  Just in case you need the information.

Are you on block 9874+?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: SIX3P0 on September 10, 2015, 11:08:17 PM
NOT AGAIN!

Wallet stuck out of sync, anyone know what the issue is this time?

Had this happen once when i shut down wallet for night. deleting everything except wallet.dat worked for me  ;)

Edit: I also re-added addnodes


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 10, 2015, 11:36:00 PM
NOT AGAIN!

Wallet stuck out of sync, anyone know what the issue is this time?

Had this happen once when i shut down wallet for night. deleting everything except wallet.dat worked for me  ;)

Edit: I also re-added addnodes

Yeah this should solve that problem. Addnodes shouldn't be needed but no harm.

Looking into a connectivity upgrade. For now that's the solution.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 11, 2015, 12:51:43 AM
Swing has just successfully done a full cycle! ;D

Miner rewards are currently peaked out at 100%.

In under 1000 blocks they will drop all the way down to 10%.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 11, 2015, 01:09:05 AM
Swing has just successfully done a full cycle! ;D

Miner rewards are currently peaked out at 100%.

In under 1000 blocks they will drop all the way down to 10%.

Congrats, nice work.

The staking has been working very nicely.  Sorry to see it go back down.   ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Seed Coins Remaining: 4.5%●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 11, 2015, 01:16:24 AM
Swing has just successfully done a full cycle! ;D

Miner rewards are currently peaked out at 100%.

In under 1000 blocks they will drop all the way down to 10%.

Congrats, nice work.

The staking has been working very nicely.  Sorry to see it go back down.   ;D

Thanks :)

Also technically the stake rewards are the base reward so they stay at "100%". POW rewards cycles through 10% - 100% of that base reward every 1000 blocks.

Right now is just the only time that miners are earning the same amount as stakers.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: hashmaster1 on September 11, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
Yes the staking is working really good i know i did get much from mining so the staking is making up for some of my down time ,while i was mining the coin my power supply for my asic burn out ....


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 11, 2015, 07:51:57 PM
Yes the staking is working really good i know i did get much from mining so the staking is making up for some of my down time ,while i was mining the coin my power supply for my asic burn out ....

Wow that stinks! Sorry to hear about your PSU!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 12, 2015, 12:00:47 AM
http://i.imgur.com/4KLlBUA.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/642487313105219584)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 12, 2015, 02:02:33 AM
Mining

Edit: Please retweet if you do the twitter thingy.

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/642522450291351552



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 12, 2015, 06:26:59 AM
Here's a fairly accurate rough combination chart of price VS block rewards. We got added to yobit around block 2500 (I'm pretty sure at least). Off to a good start it seems.  :)

Extended chart provided by http://altcoinlive.com/yobit-swing-btc (http://altcoinlive.com/yobit-swing-btc)

http://i.imgur.com/a1EkPPl.png


http://i.imgur.com/in3uwHM.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/642585616694296576)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: Woody20285 on September 12, 2015, 06:34:37 AM
That looks very promising. Thanks for posting
Proof of ownership of my BCT account in case it gets hacked
BTC address 1Kc5RrArVqoy3BzjBrmLmiWKpsZ3oD75z5


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: SIX3P0 on September 12, 2015, 06:53:00 AM
Lets see if it keeps following suit =)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 12, 2015, 04:26:38 PM
I can see how some miners are thrown by the rewards.  But I am not doing this for profit, just to be part of it.  Unique rewards are pretty cool imo.  ;D

Edit:  I think we should try to get more miners here.

http://i.imgur.com/yqRUN29.png


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 12, 2015, 08:41:31 PM
I can see how some miners are thrown by the rewards.  But I am not doing this for profit, just to be part of it.  Unique rewards are pretty cool imo.  ;D

Edit:  I think we should try to get more miners here.

http://i.imgur.com/yqRUN29.png

Hopefully the price will rise enough to meet the miners cost (though to be honest I don't really know where the miners cost is at). There's not much reason for it to stay lower. If it does meet miners cost or raiser higher I think we will see a lot more miners. Might just take a little time. Current holders would need to allow the price to rise up to the miners cost first by raising their sell orders up though. That or someone has to buy through it but a lot of traders will only buy VIA buy support.

Time will tell :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zakorus on September 12, 2015, 09:08:57 PM
Here's a fairly accurate rough combination chart of price VS block rewards. We got added to yobit around block 2500 (I'm pretty sure at least). Off to a good start it seems.  :)

This means staking  each 1000blocks cycles start from 10% reward and increase every day until 100% ?
therefore last two day my wallet staking significantly less then days earlier?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 12, 2015, 09:50:22 PM
staking earlier today I found 1 with 2.17 SWING and my last 1 had 7.44 SWING so it's cycling through fairly quickly


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 12, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
Staking is different from mining.

Staking goes from 0 to 10 every 1,000 blocks.

Mining goes from 10% of that to 100% of that every 10,000 blocks.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 13, 2015, 04:10:16 AM
network staking weight has gone up a lot today


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 14, 2015, 03:16:40 PM
Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/
https://www.ipominer.com/ (port 4444)

I have sent an email already requesting their consideration to add $SWING.   Also please retweet the below tweet to Bittrex. Showing interest from the community by tweeting or joining IRC #Bittrex and getting conversations started about $SWING will really help us out.  Submitting coin requests to others exchanges is a great idea.

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/643441391964549120

Poloniex: https://poloniex.com/coinRequest


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: BluRPie on September 14, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
cant mine SWING at ipominer atm. They switched it back to their regular coins.

suchpool works like a charm tho


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 14, 2015, 07:45:59 PM
cant mine SWING at ipominer atm. They switched it back to their regular coins.

suchpool works like a charm tho

Thanks for the update BluRPie. 


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 14, 2015, 09:51:20 PM
cant mine SWING at ipominer atm. They switched it back to their regular coins.

suchpool works like a charm tho

Thanks BluRPie, I'll pull it from the thread.

I've been trying to get supernova to add Swing as well from the start but have yet to hear back unfortunately.

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/
https://www.ipominer.com/ (port 4444)

I have sent an email already requesting their consideration to add $SWING.   Also please retweet the below tweet to Bittrex. Showing interest from the community by tweeting or joining IRC #Bittrex and getting conversations started about $SWING will really help us out.  Submitting coin requests to others exchanges is a great idea.

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/643441391964549120

Poloniex: https://poloniex.com/coinRequest


Thanks for the initiative WigitGetIt!

Believe it or not I've been slowly strategically approaching Bittrex.

Here's some things to consider.

A community outpouring and seeing the name of the coin repeatedly can make a big difference in weather or not they decide to check out the coin, or give it additional looks. However, that alone is not enough to get us listed there.

When it boils down to it they are really looking at one or two things.

A: Can they profit from the volume?
Bittrex delists coins that average trade volumes of less than 0.2 BTC daily over the course of a week. If we want to get listed We will have to consistently beat this mark. Getting more traders into the coin is a good way for this to happen naturally. Bittrex wants to see lots of activity and they know how to pick out blatantly fake volume. I think if the swinging price pattern holds relatively consistent with the swinging supply for a few cycles (at least), we will likely see a large increase in people taking up an interest in Swing (and therefore increased volume).

B: Is the coin legit, or is it just a joke or a scam?
This is pretty much the entire reason I decided to move away from the "Greed" names and use my actual trading handle. They weren't so fond of the Greed brand. So hopefully we've got this covered.

When you really look at it Swing is just getting started guys. All we can do from here is grow bigger!

Slow and steady growth is key!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 15, 2015, 12:15:54 AM
Got my first $SWING stake.   ;D

Edit: Added tweet link https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/643580352846413825

http://i.imgur.com/XF4Qk7V.png


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 15, 2015, 12:33:59 AM
Got my first $SWING stake.   ;D

Edit: Added tweet link https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/643580352846413825

http://i.imgur.com/XF4Qk7V.png

Congrats!  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: rockyV on September 15, 2015, 09:23:07 AM
today I got reward 9.97swing for stake ;D that almost max?
and
network staking weight overstep 80k,


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 15, 2015, 10:21:59 AM
today I got reward 9.97swing for stake ;D that almost max?
and
network staking weight overstep 80k,

Very nearly max yes :) Nice grab!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 15, 2015, 11:54:25 AM
Love to see the stake weight go up. Mining and staking all I can.  I will buy some when I get some BTC ;D

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/


http://i.imgur.com/Ra6UMVB.png


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zazarb on September 15, 2015, 01:28:00 PM
Love to see the stake weight go up. Mining and staking all I can.  I will buy some when I get some BTC ;D

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/


http://i.imgur.com/Ra6UMVB.png
hello
sorry I want ask you,
that what I see in you wallet , you earned daily with 2.2th/s?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 15, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
Love to see the stake weight go up. Mining and staking all I can.  I will buy some when I get some BTC ;D

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/



hello
sorry I want ask you,
that what I see in you wallet , you earned daily with 2.2th/s?

yeah.  Mining about 10 to 14 hrs daily, I think I am getting about 40-50.  I usually have the top hash at suchpool, so I am getting most of the rewards from blocks found.  I hope that answers your question.  ;D 


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zazarb on September 15, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Love to see the stake weight go up. Mining and staking all I can.  I will buy some when I get some BTC ;D

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/



hello
sorry I want ask you,
that what I see in you wallet , you earned daily with 2.2th/s?

yeah.  Mining about 10 to 14 hrs daily, I think I am getting about 40-50.  I usually have the top hash at suchpool, so I am getting most of the rewards from blocks found.  I hope that answers your question.  ;D 
that almost equals 1th/s /24h
if currently rate 50 swing cost 0.00225btc(if to sell instant), cheapest rig to rent ~ 0.01btc Price/TH/Day almost 5 time pricey!!! You probably believe very future of this coin :) of course my calculations approximate (sell ask price twice higher)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: BluRPie on September 15, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
i get about 10 in 24 hours, with only 63GH/s


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 15, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
Love to see the stake weight go up. Mining and staking all I can.  I will buy some when I get some BTC ;D

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/



hello
sorry I want ask you,
that what I see in you wallet , you earned daily with 2.2th/s?

yeah.  Mining about 10 to 14 hrs daily, I think I am getting about 40-50.  I usually have the top hash at suchpool, so I am getting most of the rewards from blocks found.  I hope that answers your question.  ;D 
that almost equals 1th/s /24h
if currently rate 50 swing cost 0.00225btc(if to sell instant), cheapest rig to rent ~ 0.01btc Price/TH/Day almost 5 time pricey!!! You probably believe very future of this coin :) of course my calculations approximate (sell ask price twice higher)

I own my rigs, 2 Bitmain S5's, so it is a little easier for me to a chance on this.   


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: zakorus on September 15, 2015, 08:30:17 PM
when finally bump up  :), price freezes stand in the same place..,


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 15, 2015, 08:53:41 PM
Love to see the stake weight go up. Mining and staking all I can.  I will buy some when I get some BTC ;D

Mine Swing at the below pools.

https://www.suchpool.pw/swing
https://coinking.io/



hello
sorry I want ask you,
that what I see in you wallet , you earned daily with 2.2th/s?

yeah.  Mining about 10 to 14 hrs daily, I think I am getting about 40-50.  I usually have the top hash at suchpool, so I am getting most of the rewards from blocks found.  I hope that answers your question.  ;D 
that almost equals 1th/s /24h
if currently rate 50 swing cost 0.00225btc(if to sell instant), cheapest rig to rent ~ 0.01btc Price/TH/Day almost 5 time pricey!!! You probably believe very future of this coin :) of course my calculations approximate (sell ask price twice higher)

I own my rigs, 2 Bitmain S5's, so it is a little easier for me to a chance on this.   

i get about 10 in 24 hours, with only 63GH/s

Thanks for this info. I've been getting curious where the miners cost is at.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: kingscrown on September 16, 2015, 01:34:14 AM
watching this


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: device on September 16, 2015, 01:36:13 AM
http://tryswing.com/ (http://tryswing.com/)

Its ♘♕♔SWINGING♚ ♛♞ beautifully  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 16, 2015, 02:40:52 AM
Please retweet.   ;D

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/643971234728808448


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: fonzerrellie on September 16, 2015, 07:03:48 AM
nice job on the website  8)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 16, 2015, 07:17:04 AM
nice job on the website  8)

lol thanks looks familiar eh?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 16, 2015, 12:01:36 PM
I sure hated to miss out on the larger block rewards last night, but I had to rest the miners.  I think the rewards were at 2+ $SWING.  I'll be back mining tonight for sure.  ;D

Don't forget you can trade at Yobit https://yobit.net/en/trade/SWING/BTC.  Once we can get the volume up, we can harass the other exchanges to add us.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: BluRPie on September 16, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
I sure hated to miss out on the larger block rewards last night, but I had to rest the miners.  I think the rewards were at 2+ $SWING.  I'll be back mining tonight for sure.  ;D

Too bad :P I picked up a a nice amount of SWING.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 16, 2015, 04:55:59 PM
If you IRC here is the official channel #swingcoin  Thats what the channel header says anyway.

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/#swingcoin

http://i.imgur.com/Z5AyQE3.png

Please retweet: https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644215377510035456


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: murderouskirk on September 16, 2015, 07:47:18 PM
If you IRC here is the official channel #swingcoin  Thats what the channel header says anyway.

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/#swingcoin

http://i.imgur.com/Z5AyQE3.png

Please retweet: https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644215377510035456

Yup that's it. It's also connected to crypto community's #Swing channel so you can use either.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 17, 2015, 12:15:15 AM
If you reddit please comment and up vote.  Please tweet out if you do the twitter thingy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3l8mjs/swing_programmatically_fluctuating_miners_cost/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Please retweet this https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644299092420485120


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: Woody20285 on September 17, 2015, 12:20:25 AM
If you reddit please comment and up vote.  Please tweet out if you do the twitter thingy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3l8mjs/swing_programmatically_fluctuating_miners_cost/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Please retweet this https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644299092420485120

Done - re-tweeted!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 17, 2015, 12:23:02 AM
If you reddit please comment and up vote.  Please tweet out if you do the twitter thingy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3l8mjs/swing_programmatically_fluctuating_miners_cost/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Please retweet this https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644299092420485120

Done - re-tweeted!

Thanks Woody20285   ;D


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 17, 2015, 01:33:01 AM
Lets grow the hash rate 10 th/s is pretty good.  Block reward is 3+ right now.

http://i.imgur.com/7YAxJXc.png


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 17, 2015, 03:24:01 AM
28.21 th/s  Very Nice!!   ;D

http://i.imgur.com/qgu1aue.png


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 17, 2015, 10:56:40 AM
Good Morning Everyone.

http://i.giphy.com/UcUrLi3B1Tu8w.gif


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Post by: xinzark on September 17, 2015, 12:10:39 PM
Lets grow the hash rate 10 th/s is pretty good.  Block reward is 3+ right now.

http://i.imgur.com/7YAxJXc.png

I think soon you will become the richest swinger :)


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Post by: rudolfaxl on September 17, 2015, 01:04:09 PM
28.21 th/s  Very Nice!!   ;D

http://i.imgur.com/qgu1aue.png

 :o wowwwww


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Post by: NoobKidOnTheBlock on September 17, 2015, 02:04:26 PM
So if I'm to understand the OP correctly this coin has variable POS and POW depending on what block number it is when the reward is received? If that is truly the case that's kind of a pretty neat concept for this coin for sure :D I'm liking it so far ;)


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Post by: HashStatz on September 17, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
So if I'm to understand the OP correctly this coin has variable POS and POW depending on what block number it is when the reward is received? If that is truly the case that's kind of a pretty neat concept for this coin for sure :D I'm liking it so far ;)

The POS block reward is based on the last 3 digits of the block number. Example, the block reward for block 16268 would be 2.68

The POW block reward is based on the POS reward with a multiplier of between 0.10 to 1. This multiplier is based on a 10000 block cycle.

More information and a nice graphic depicting the Swing block reward cycle can be found in the OP.







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Post by: shapetwist on September 17, 2015, 06:39:57 PM
So here we are, with a good coin that has zero market interest.

Why a good coin? Swinging rewards have never been done before. Why is that good? I believe it's a good way to reinstate fairness into the game. Yet, miners are greedy or unaware of cost vs market profit, and stakers will keep staking because the rewards are way too good.

Keep in mind that mining costs will always vary over time. This is some serious shit.

It will bring miners into swing mode, if they want their mining to pay off. They will have to adapt to the inherited swinging nature of block rewards, which is a step up in the game. They will have to be smart over their selling, and pick it up again at the smartest time.

This is why there is no market at the moment. This is new. They don't know how to handle it. They haven't yet figured out the waves. And the lurkers haven't realized the potential in this.

Time will come, either naturally, or we might need to put up some explanations/guides.


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 17, 2015, 09:38:28 PM
I think SWING is growing slowly, but steadily.  Thanks for dropping a comment shapetwist.  ;D

I was hoping I could get some retweets from folks on this https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644623096507465728.  ;D

Don't forget we have an IRC channel https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/#swingcoin.  I see if we can get a bot.  Maybe one that shows the mining stats and maybe the PoS stats?   ;D


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 18, 2015, 01:46:16 AM
So if I'm to understand the OP correctly this coin has variable POS and POW depending on what block number it is when the reward is received? If that is truly the case that's kind of a pretty neat concept for this coin for sure :D I'm liking it so far ;)

So here we are, with a good coin that has zero market interest.

Why a good coin? Swinging rewards have never been done before. Why is that good? I believe it's a good way to reinstate fairness into the game. Yet, miners are greedy or unaware of cost vs market profit, and stakers will keep staking because the rewards are way too good.

Keep in mind that mining costs will always vary over time. This is some serious shit.

It will bring miners into swing mode, if they want their mining to pay off. They will have to adapt to the inherited swinging nature of block rewards, which is a step up in the game. They will have to be smart over their selling, and pick it up again at the smartest time.

This is why there is no market at the moment. This is new. They don't know how to handle it. They haven't yet figured out the waves. And the lurkers haven't realized the potential in this.

Time will come, either naturally, or we might need to put up some explanations/guides.

I think SWING is growing slowly, but steadily.  Thanks for dropping a comment shapetwist.  ;D

I was hoping I could get some retweets from folks on this https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/644623096507465728.  ;D

Don't forget we have an IRC channel https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/#swingcoin.  I see if we can get a bot.  Maybe one that shows the mining stats and maybe the PoS stats?   ;D

Now you guys are starting to get it  ;)

Slow and steady. Others will start to get it.

Well said ShapeTwist especially.

That bot would be good wigit. Maybe even a twitter bot that spits out important info? Thanks for all the social networking promotion you've been doing lately btw. You've been killing it.  ;D

What we really need though is a custom chart. One that overlays price and expected rewards. Ideally with miners cost (even estimated) though that's more challenging to get. I'm looking into getting a tradingview chart made that way we have extended history and TA tools. Ideally with expected reward and some other info on it. I don't know if tradingview charts allow more than one line though. Unfortunately the developer that I was going to have make that for me is hit or miss if he's online so.. If anyone thinks they can make something like this let me know and you might get a bounty coming your way.

If all else fails I might be able to at least make the basic tradingview chart myself so we have something a little cleaner to look at. No promises though I've never done trading charts but this is what I've been looking into lately.

If people can see the impact of price vs reward easily it will likely help. Till then we're all estimating mental gaps that can be tricky and easy to not think about.


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Post by: rudolfaxl on September 18, 2015, 01:01:13 PM
 "+>9999%"...Wowwww, i'm wait 1 SWING : 1 BTC  8)


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 18, 2015, 01:11:55 PM
Mining swing at https://coinking.io.  With a little over 2 th/s.  Getting the full block reward I have accumulated 197.99255051 confirmed.  My unconfirmed it 144.99569697.  ;D

http://i.imgur.com/brvTlBv.png


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Post by: NoobKidOnTheBlock on September 18, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
Well so far I must say I'm liking the idea behind SWING and glad that I decided to mine a small bit for myself to test this out :D lol


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Post by: xinzark on September 18, 2015, 01:18:50 PM
false alarm ;D only one swing sold in this price, I think soon price back to previous level :)


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Post by: BluRPie on September 18, 2015, 01:39:36 PM
Got my highest PoS reward today with a 9.94 SWING, Really nice !


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 18, 2015, 01:44:47 PM
false alarm ;D only one swing sold in this price, I think soon price back to previous level :)

Such Market Buy  1.3 BTC Volume on Yobit.

http://i.imgur.com/VbIG4Cp.png


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Post by: NoobKidOnTheBlock on September 18, 2015, 02:27:44 PM
false alarm ;D only one swing sold in this price, I think soon price back to previous level :)

Such Market Buy  1.3 BTC Volume on Yobit.

http://i.imgur.com/VbIG4Cp.png

Ya but look at the spread right now in the bid and asks on Yobit. More buy pressure needs to be put on because I'm not against where the asks have their sells set because this coin should be worth that much easily but the buys are way too low compared to the lowest ask price for SWING.


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 18, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
false alarm ;D only one swing sold in this price, I think soon price back to previous level :)

Such Market Buy  1.3 BTC Volume on Yobit.


Ya but look at the spread right now in the bid and asks on Yobit. More buy pressure needs to be put on because I'm not against where the asks have their sells set because this coin should be worth that much easily but the buys are way too low compared to the lowest ask price for SWING.

yeah that spread is pretty big right now.  I am just happy the volume is up.  ;D


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Post by: shapetwist on September 18, 2015, 06:00:42 PM
What we really need though is a custom chart. One that overlays price and expected rewards. Ideally with miners cost (even estimated) though that's more challenging to get. I'm looking into getting a tradingview chart made that way we have extended history and TA tools. Ideally with expected reward and some other info on it. I don't know if tradingview charts allow more than one line though. Unfortunately the developer that I was going to have make that for me is hit or miss if he's online so.. If anyone thinks they can make something like this let me know and you might get a bounty coming your way.

If all else fails I might be able to at least make the basic tradingview chart myself so we have something a little cleaner to look at. No promises though I've never done trading charts but this is what I've been looking into lately.

If people can see the impact of price vs reward easily it will likely help. Till then we're all estimating mental gaps that can be tricky and easy to not think about.

I'm not sure I fully understand the extent of this, but I'll gladly help with all I can.

It brings a few questions. Do you want to train everybody in order for them to become proficient in getting the most rewards regarding mining and market selling? Not sure that is the best way. Once every miner figures it out we'll see a pretty consistent wave which will not help trading imo.

I think we should encourage some thought into swing and let people figure it out, giving enough information of course.

But publishing a guide/chart that will - eventually - only explain how to profit, is a no go in my opinion.

There are many other ways in which we can spark interest. The nature of the coin will be figured out and dealt with properly once we reach the right people. And then all will happen naturally.

At this point, I'd be more concerned into finding good metaphors as explaining terms, instead of providing charts. Because, to be honest, a buy side has to be built, and that's only gonna happen if the money out there understands this whole swing thing. I'd focus on that.


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Post by: ankylotic on September 18, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
why does my wallet say out of sync when I have 6 active connections WTF !!!!


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 18, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
Wow, big action this morning!!

 The whole book got purchased eh? I guess we can officially say Swing joined the $1+ club.. even just for a moment there haha. New ATH is .005.  ;D

What we really need though is a custom chart. One that overlays price and expected rewards. Ideally with miners cost (even estimated) though that's more challenging to get. I'm looking into getting a tradingview chart made that way we have extended history and TA tools. Ideally with expected reward and some other info on it. I don't know if tradingview charts allow more than one line though. Unfortunately the developer that I was going to have make that for me is hit or miss if he's online so.. If anyone thinks they can make something like this let me know and you might get a bounty coming your way.

If all else fails I might be able to at least make the basic tradingview chart myself so we have something a little cleaner to look at. No promises though I've never done trading charts but this is what I've been looking into lately.

If people can see the impact of price vs reward easily it will likely help. Till then we're all estimating mental gaps that can be tricky and easy to not think about.

I'm not sure I fully understand the extent of this, but I'll gladly help with all I can.

It brings a few questions. Do you want to train everybody in order for them to become proficient in getting the most rewards regarding mining and market selling? Not sure that is the best way. Once every miner figures it out we'll see a pretty consistent wave which will not help trading imo.

I think we should encourage some thought into swing and let people figure it out, giving enough information of course.

But publishing a guide/chart that will - eventually - only explain how to profit, is a no go in my opinion.

There are many other ways in which we can spark interest. The nature of the coin will be figured out and dealt with properly once we reach the right people. And then all will happen naturally.

At this point, I'd be more concerned into finding good metaphors as explaining terms, instead of providing charts. Because, to be honest, a buy side has to be built, and that's only gonna happen if the money out there understands this whole swing thing. I'd focus on that.

All I'm looking for is a better chart that shows both price and expected block rewards in real time. This just helps people keep track of where we are at.  :)


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 18, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
why does my wallet say out of sync when I have 6 active connections WTF !!!!

Can I get some specs from you?

Operating system?
32 bit or 64 bit?
GUI wallet or server wallet?

Try backing up your wallet.dat and re-downloading the chain if the problem persists.


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 18, 2015, 08:19:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3yaxzZc.png (http://i.imgur.com/3yaxzZc.png)


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Post by: cryptopaths on September 19, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
I do not think that you will be able to do it again :) but  cuddly that spread shrink and volume rising. good luck this coin :)


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 19, 2015, 07:08:48 PM
If I have btc for SWING I'm too eager to get them in my wallet staking than putting in low buys in and hope they get filled so I just buy them from the sell wall.


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 19, 2015, 10:11:20 PM
Come to SuchPool and mine some $SWING. Rewards are at 2.10 $SWING. https://www.suchpool.pw/swing

Please retweet https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930

http://i.imgur.com/Wvj8fSH.png


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 19, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
tweet tweet

https://twitter.com/fonzerrellie/status/645368137869717504


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Post by: hashmaster1 on September 20, 2015, 12:16:04 AM
Has the staking gone down for the last few days mine gone down  allot compare to what i was getting ....before


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Post by: louiseth1 on September 20, 2015, 12:32:24 AM
Come to SuchPool and mine some $SWING. Rewards are at 2.10 $SWING. https://www.suchpool.pw/swing

Please retweet https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930

http://i.imgur.com/Wvj8fSH.png

Seems reward is now 2.90! nice! I'm mining it aswell


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 20, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Has the staking gone down for the last few days mine gone down  allot compare to what i was getting ....before

I've been getting quite a few pos blocks per day, it does take awhile to earn the weight back so I deposited mine in small chunks


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Post by: louiseth1 on September 20, 2015, 02:17:10 AM
i'm in !

quebec mining swing!


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 20, 2015, 08:53:36 AM

What it looked like last night when everyone started mining.

http://i.imgur.com/WdWbwOH.gif


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 20, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
Please retweet when you get a chance.   ;D

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645603050053238784

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930


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Post by: ukon on September 20, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Please retweet when you get a chance.   ;D

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645603050053238784

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930
done  :D


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Post by: Woody20285 on September 20, 2015, 11:31:17 PM
Please retweet when you get a chance.   ;D

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645603050053238784

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930
done  :D

Done - Woody


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 21, 2015, 01:28:02 AM
Come mine some $SWING with me at SuchPool. https://www.suchpool.pw/swing

Please Rewteet https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645772342610690049

http://i.imgur.com/WG9RS1c.png


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Post by: boyodoso on September 21, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
Please retweet when you get a chance.   ;D

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645603050053238784

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930

done guyz ;D


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Post by: bb2ebb on September 21, 2015, 12:38:41 PM
Please retweet when you get a chance.   ;D

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645603050053238784

https://twitter.com/wigitgetit/status/645358654548348930

done :)


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 21, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
Thanks for the retweets folks.  ;D  Obvi when mining rewards are up, currently 7+ we get more hashes.  When the blockreward is down the little miners, are able to get some coins too.  Loving $SWING.  ;D ;D

http://i.imgur.com/JSOO4iD.png


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 21, 2015, 05:46:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/hcWNfAJ.pngJ.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/646017403051241472)


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Post by: BluRPie on September 21, 2015, 07:55:07 PM
ugh, a 0.19 PoS reward...


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 21, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
ugh, a 0.19 PoS reward...

lol yup my last one was a .2 Ha they make me feel spoiled when I get a bigger one lol and at least all the small ones will keep inflation nice and slow  8)


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 22, 2015, 12:09:35 AM
ugh, a 0.19 PoS reward...

lol yup my last one was a .2 Ha they make me feel spoiled when I get a bigger one lol and at least all the small ones will keep inflation nice and slow  8)

I got a 1.04 today.


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Post by: rudolfaxl on September 22, 2015, 01:41:23 AM
Thanks for the retweets folks.  ;D  Obvi when mining rewards are up, currently 7+ we get more hashes.  When the blockreward is down the little miners, are able to get some coins too.  Loving $SWING.  ;D ;D

http://i.imgur.com/JSOO4iD.png

http://i.imgur.com/WdWbwOH.gif

Crazyy BUMP..!!! ;D


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 22, 2015, 06:21:34 AM
now thats some hash power  :o

and I think your right about smaller miners may actually end up getting a few more when the reward is low if the bigger miners are switching off to something else till the block reward gets bigger again


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Post by: operabit on September 23, 2015, 07:17:30 AM
now at BITTREX


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Post by: shapetwist on September 23, 2015, 07:19:45 AM
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING


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Post by: megadestruct61 on September 23, 2015, 08:06:08 AM
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING
Oh DAMN!  ;D


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 23, 2015, 08:27:46 AM
what a kick a$$ thing to see  after work.  Thanks Bittrex  8)


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Post by: operabit on September 23, 2015, 08:42:53 AM
Wait at 1000 satoshi  ;D


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Post by: lulla.by on September 23, 2015, 08:46:13 AM
Wow, this changes everything! :o


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Post by: leonak on September 23, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
Too bad I didn't followed since the beginning


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 23, 2015, 09:12:13 AM
Wait at 1000 satoshi  ;D

it didn't get near that on yobit... but who knows you might get lucky, personally I think we'll be lucky to be able to buy it at 5000 again. it's a good staker and I think people will like that it's a forever hybrid... miners can mine and stake without hating on it like they do when other coins turn full pos

not too mention the swinging rewards will make for a nice slow inflation


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 23, 2015, 09:22:36 AM
Congrats everyone, looks like we have hit Bittrex!  ;D

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING



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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 23, 2015, 11:00:35 AM
Awesome on the Bittrex add.  Lets keep grinding.  The altcoinlive for Bittrex is up.

http://altcoinlive.com/bittrex-swing-btc


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Post by: xinzark on September 23, 2015, 11:53:59 AM
Nice to see swing Expansion into other exchange, it should be the basis for a stable price and spread drop


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Post by: crackfoo on September 23, 2015, 02:19:10 PM
Heya

Just FYI that we're mining SWING on our multipool: www.xpool.ca and sha256 miners have the option to keep their SWING just by entering their SWING address in their user settings. It is a minable coin only and not a converted payout coin.

Cheers!


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Post by: NoobKidOnTheBlock on September 23, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?


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Post by: crackfoo on September 23, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?

Looks like it's indefinitely.


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Post by: NoobKidOnTheBlock on September 23, 2015, 02:46:28 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?

Looks like it's indefinitely.
Okay thanks


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Post by: louiseth1 on September 23, 2015, 02:46:33 PM
Congratulations for the Bittrex listing!

Grab some rigs and come mining, our pool still online and mashing through the blocks! https://www.SuchPool.pw/swing (https://www.SuchPool.pw/swing)


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Post by: HashStatz on September 23, 2015, 03:12:44 PM
now at BITTREX

This is awesome news! Hopefully this development will result in greater exposure and increased volume for Swing.


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 23, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?

Looks like it's indefinitely.

LAST_POW_BLOCK = 1000000000
MAX_MONEY = 40000000 * COIN; //Max Supply 40 Mil

So pretty much indefinite but not exactly.

Heya

Just FYI that we're mining SWING on our multipool: www.xpool.ca and sha256 miners have the option to keep their SWING just by entering their SWING address in their user settings. It is a minable coin only and not a converted payout coin.

Cheers!

Thanks!

I've added xpool, bittrex, and additional bittrex chart to the thread.  :)


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 23, 2015, 10:32:31 PM
If you Reddit please comment and leave a comment at the post linked below.  There is a bot that tweets these new posts, I will post that for the tweeters like me.    ;D

Thank You for all the support.  I will keep trying to get the word out about $TX.    ;D

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3m4iy0/you_can_now_trade_swingcoin_on_bittrexcom/

Bot Tweet: https://twitter.com/RimbitCom/status/646816430025912320

Please retweet.  ;D


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 23, 2015, 10:49:46 PM
If you Reddit please comment and leave a comment at the post linked below.  There is a bot that tweets these new posts, I will post that for the tweeters like me.    ;D

Thank You for all the support.  I will keep trying to get the word out about $TX.    ;D

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3m4iy0/you_can_now_trade_swingcoin_on_bittrexcom/

Bot Tweet: https://twitter.com/RimbitCom/status/646816430025912320

Please retweet.  ;D

Done ty :)


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 23, 2015, 11:00:00 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?

Looks like it's indefinitely.

LAST_POW_BLOCK = 1000000000
MAX_MONEY = 40000000 * COIN; //Max Supply 40 Mil

So pretty much indefinite but not exactly.

Heya

Just FYI that we're mining SWING on our multipool: www.xpool.ca and sha256 miners have the option to keep their SWING just by entering their SWING address in their user settings. It is a minable coin only and not a converted payout coin.

Cheers!

Thanks!

I've added xpool, bittrex, and additional bittrex chart to the thread.  :)

and how many years till the end block ?


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 23, 2015, 11:22:59 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?

Looks like it's indefinitely.

LAST_POW_BLOCK = 1000000000
MAX_MONEY = 40000000 * COIN; //Max Supply 40 Mil

So pretty much indefinite but not exactly.

Heya

Just FYI that we're mining SWING on our multipool: www.xpool.ca and sha256 miners have the option to keep their SWING just by entering their SWING address in their user settings. It is a minable coin only and not a converted payout coin.

Cheers!

Thanks!

I've added xpool, bittrex, and additional bittrex chart to the thread.  :)

and how many years till the end block ?

Well, it's been 24 days (we launched on the 30th) and we are on block 22081.

So that means the chain runs a little faster than programmed in at about 920.041666667 blocks per day (probably due to hash rates coming on/offline at peak hours).

So it would take us 1086907.29586 days to hit the end of POW

Which is 2975.853553109197 years

So.. POW will not end in our lifetime unless something unexpected changes or we upgrade that setting.

It will probably take ~25 years to hit max supply of 40 mil coins.

There are currently 245197.79598966 coins and of that 160k was pre-generated for seed coins so..

85,197.7959897 new coins have been generated in ~24 days.

You guys can do the math on that and get better estimates if you want.


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 23, 2015, 11:36:40 PM
Well it's really nice to see that this coin got listed on Bittrex :) That's always a good thing ;) Now the one question I do have is the POW phase ongoing forever this way? Or does it eventually switch to straight POS with the swinging rewards?

Looks like it's indefinitely.

LAST_POW_BLOCK = 1000000000
MAX_MONEY = 40000000 * COIN; //Max Supply 40 Mil

So pretty much indefinite but not exactly.

Heya

Just FYI that we're mining SWING on our multipool: www.xpool.ca and sha256 miners have the option to keep their SWING just by entering their SWING address in their user settings. It is a minable coin only and not a converted payout coin.

Cheers!

Thanks!

I've added xpool, bittrex, and additional bittrex chart to the thread.  :)

and how many years till the end block ?

Well, it's been 24 days (we launched on the 30th) and we are on block 22081.

So that means the chain runs a little faster than programmed in at about 920.041666667 blocks per day (probably due to hash rates coming on/offline at peak hours).

So it would take us 1086907.29586 days to hit the end of POW

Which is 2975.853553109197 years

So.. POW will not end in our lifetime unless something unexpected changes or we upgrade that setting.

It will probably take ~25 years to hit max supply of 40 mil coins.

There are currently 245197.79598966 coins and of that 160k was pre-generated for seed coins so..

85,197.7959897 new coins have been generated in ~24 days.

You guys can do the math on that and get better estimates if you want.

This applies.

http://i.imgur.com/1LbC7BA.gif


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Post by: lekiller on September 24, 2015, 12:13:14 AM
still time to jump in ?!


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 24, 2015, 12:15:43 AM
still time to jump in ?!

absolutely.  Glad to see you came by bro.  ;D


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Post by: hashmaster1 on September 24, 2015, 12:19:00 AM
Great coin just enjoy watching my coin's staking away.


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Post by: tekyboy on September 24, 2015, 04:10:09 AM
Great coin just enjoy watching my coin's staking away.

interesting to see the ups and downs in all respects from mining to stake till price jumps on exchanges really happy to have this in portal.  can we run a small giveaway to promote this and getting it listed to other exchanges as well


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Post by: irwanjabryg on September 24, 2015, 05:29:00 AM
Great coin just enjoy watching my coin's staking away.

interesting to see the ups and downs in all respects from mining to stake till price jumps on exchanges really happy to have this in portal.  can we run a small giveaway to promote this and getting it listed to other exchanges as well

What is the first traded price  ??? ??? ??? ??? 
Now the price is very low  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\


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Post by: kevin1234a on September 24, 2015, 05:37:56 AM
Great coin just enjoy watching my coin's staking away.

interesting to see the ups and downs in all respects from mining to stake till price jumps on exchanges really happy to have this in portal.  can we run a small giveaway to promote this and getting it listed to other exchanges as well

What is the first traded price  ??? ??? ??? ??? 
Now the price is very low  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

even i forgot since i got them swapped and rest i mined :(


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Post by: irwanjabryg on September 24, 2015, 06:08:45 AM
Great coin just enjoy watching my coin's staking away.

interesting to see the ups and downs in all respects from mining to stake till price jumps on exchanges really happy to have this in portal.  can we run a small giveaway to promote this and getting it listed to other exchanges as well

What is the first traded price  ??? ??? ??? ??? 
Now the price is very low  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

even i forgot since i got them swapped and rest i mined :(

order buy also no support , it should be up first the price to lure investors   ;) ;) ;)


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 24, 2015, 06:24:43 AM
nice my buy order got filled on yobit  8)
 

and even got a 9.2 SWING pos block today BONUS!!

I wont sell any for under 15k... and figure anything under 10k is a super sale


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Post by: cryptopaths on September 24, 2015, 08:11:27 AM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 24, 2015, 11:14:59 AM
nice my buy order got filled on yobit  8)
 

and even got a 9.2 SWING pos block today BONUS!!

I wont sell any for under 15k... and figure anything under 10k is a super sale

Completely agree.  There is a fire sale happening right now then.  It would take about 1BTC to get us over 18k right now.

wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

I am not sure, but that is a nice stake.  ;D  9.81 has been my biggest stake, that was on 9/19/2015.  ;D



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Post by: BluRPie on September 24, 2015, 01:56:18 PM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

it shouldnt be possible, as its the last 3 digits of the block so, 22646 should give you a 6.46 PoS reward


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Post by: cryptopaths on September 24, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

it shouldnt be possible, as its the last 3 digits of the block so, 22646 should give you a 6.46 PoS reward
I know, but
Facts show other ;D

http://s9.postimg.org/5x13laltr/swing_10_22.jpg


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Post by: BluRPie on September 24, 2015, 03:27:15 PM
Thats really nice :)

i wonder how though  ;D


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 24, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

it shouldnt be possible, as its the last 3 digits of the block so, 22646 should give you a 6.46 PoS reward
I know, but
Facts show other ;D

http://s9.postimg.org/5x13laltr/swing_10_22.jpg

You should be able to see in the transaction details what block generated it.


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Post by: cryptopaths on September 24, 2015, 03:51:24 PM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

it shouldnt be possible, as its the last 3 digits of the block so, 22646 should give you a 6.46 PoS reward
I know, but
Facts show other ;D

http://s9.postimg.org/5x13laltr/swing_10_22.jpg

You should be able to see in the transaction details what block generated it.
of course ;D
Status: 733 confirmations
Date: 2015.09.23 23:27
Source: Generated
Credit: 10.22 SWING
Net amount: +10.22 SWING
Transaction ID: 16ff8bfbef211237796785c21fbbd8cc49378457778c490d0ec044e61e9b68b0

Generated coins must mature 110 blocks before they can be spent. When you generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, its state will change to "not accepted" and it won't be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.


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Post by: WigitGetIt on September 24, 2015, 05:57:57 PM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

it shouldnt be possible, as its the last 3 digits of the block so, 22646 should give you a 6.46 PoS reward
I know, but
Facts show other ;D

http://s9.postimg.org/5x13laltr/swing_10_22.jpg

You should be able to see in the transaction details what block generated it.
of course ;D
Status: 733 confirmations
Date: 2015.09.23 23:27
Source: Generated
Credit: 10.22 SWING
Net amount: +10.22 SWING
Transaction ID: 16ff8bfbef211237796785c21fbbd8cc49378457778c490d0ec044e61e9b68b0

Generated coins must mature 110 blocks before they can be spent. When you generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, its state will change to "not accepted" and it won't be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.


Nice.  ;D

Block 21973 http://cryptobe.com/b/12Nv2VeX69 (http://cryptobe.com/b/12Nv2VeX69)



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Post by: murderouskirk on September 24, 2015, 07:37:23 PM
wow , today I got reward from stake 10.22 SWING, how it's possible?

it shouldnt be possible, as its the last 3 digits of the block so, 22646 should give you a 6.46 PoS reward
I know, but
Facts show other ;D

http://s9.postimg.org/5x13laltr/swing_10_22.jpg

You should be able to see in the transaction details what block generated it.
of course ;D
Status: 733 confirmations
Date: 2015.09.23 23:27
Source: Generated
Credit: 10.22 SWING
Net amount: +10.22 SWING
Transaction ID: 16ff8bfbef211237796785c21fbbd8cc49378457778c490d0ec044e61e9b68b0

Generated coins must mature 110 blocks before they can be spent. When you generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, its state will change to "not accepted" and it won't be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.


Nice.  ;D

Block 21973 http://cryptobe.com/b/12Nv2VeX69 (http://cryptobe.com/b/12Nv2VeX69)



That happened to me once and I shat a brick thinking something was wrong. As it turns out, like when I got over 10:

Generation: 9.72

You generated the proper amount, someone must have included an optional transaction fee and you're the lucky dog who broke that block. When it happened to me I landed the 9.99 and got about .25 extra from transaction fees.  :)


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Post by: hashmaster1 on September 24, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
Love the staking now i have 4 time what i had to start....................


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 24, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
Love the staking now i have 4 time what i had to start....................


hellz yeah, it takes a bit for the wallet to build it's momentum up but then it starts staking like a champ... some days I only find 3 or 4 blocks and other days 10+

lol just found a 9.26 as I was writing this  8)


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Post by: jimlite on September 26, 2015, 05:30:49 PM
Surprised Bittrex didn't really help price. Guess a coin still needs a use.


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Post by: shapetwist on September 26, 2015, 05:58:27 PM
Surprised Bittrex didn't really help price. Guess a coin still needs a use.

Honestly I don't think it's surprising.

Interesting innovation here, which is great, but besides that it seems there's not much going on. I still wonder if the dev has further plans. I've tried to reach a few times, as a community member, to no avail.

Swing rewards are original and the development shouldn't stop there. It has great room for a long road with the proper choices made. What is the purpose of a market listing other than create speculation on further development? It's not like the current state itself has enough value for demand.

Even if the staking is great, what's its use when it has no value market wise?

Don't get me wrong, I'm on the supporting side. Just wondering what kind of work is being done.

I have some ideas for it, maybe we can all discuss something.

*Edit: This is open source, don't forget that. Some time, we'll get somebody forking this and adding other features on top of it. So I really think something should be done to protect the holders of Greed, GE and Swing, before new based-like projects come along.


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Post by: hashmaster1 on September 26, 2015, 06:47:42 PM
I was just wondering why some days it does not stake so fare this week it mist 3 days of staking and i don't understand that i never shut  the wallet off .....


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 26, 2015, 08:55:53 PM
I was just wondering why some days it does not stake so fare this week it mist 3 days of staking and i don't understand that i never shut  the wallet off .....

stake weight seems to grow pretty slow... if you were getting a lot more blocks before be sure to close and restart the wallet and see if that helps


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 26, 2015, 11:54:49 PM
I've tried to reach a few times, as a community member, to no avail.

I've answered that before i believe but I agree that now is a good time to talk about it again, so let's discuss in more detail.

What is the purpose of a market listing other than create speculation on further development?

First of all this is exactly what we are trying to avoid here. In my honest opinion speculation on further development is dumb, stale, and deceptive.

I understand wanting more market movement, but if you want that movement from drama centered around my work ethic I can't say I agree even slightly that that's a good idea. It will only lead to drama, fud, bad pumpers, and the death of swing. Instead, why don't we try to add value to Swing rather than temporarily inflating the price through development promises (..then getting angry when the price inevitably returns to where it started)?

*Edit: This is open source, don't forget that. Some time, we'll get somebody forking this and adding other features on top of it. So I really think something should be done to protect the holders of Greed, GE and Swing, before new based-like projects come along.

I have some ideas for it, maybe we can all discuss something.

Yup, Swing IS open source.

People can fork it and add features and try to sell you whatever they call their Swing fork sure.. And you can dump your Swing and buy up the clone with all it's fancy sparkling promises over and over..

or.. OR..

We could use the same open source environment to improve Swing as a collective.. like strong alt-coins do.

Here's an example. Lately I've been looking into charting API's in order to see if I can make a more informative website that helps track Swing across multiple exchanges. I'm not going to make any promises on this, but I am seeing if I can accomplish something that adds value to the coin and if I can I'll release it. I'm not making promises to inflate the price, I'm just seeing if I can add value on my own time. If I can i'll pitch it to the community, if I can't but I think it could happen with help, I'll reach out and see what the community think of my ideas!

So here's where I stand on this and what I've been thinking here.

I've been planning on making a call for Swing holders & developers & other interested parties to come together for Swing community update #1.

Swing is doing awesome in my eyes so far. The market movement may be a little slow, but it's pretty damn stable and picking up more and more interest. The community is growing and with that more activity will follow down the road to trade on.

There is plenty of room for improvement though. I'm sure all of you could think of ways to add value to Swing, and these are things that should be discussed. Ideas should be pitched, the validity and impact of them should be considered, and if they are good ideas the course of action needed to make it should be discussed. We need to nurture an environment where this can happen to survive. Where improvements and adding value isn't dependent on the original developer. Otherwise everyone is just waiting around hoping for/expecting me to make the usual promises that temporarily inflate price for a quick buck. And when that inevitably fails or misteps I get crucified  :-\.

So.. Swing community update #1

Here's my thinking for this.

There are some minor core improvements I can make and have considered making. However, since they are minor and not really causing any problems the negative impact of having to push an update outweighs the improvements that would come from it.

So.. I've decided it's best to pull together an agreed upon community created update with all the upgrades we can settle on before pushing out a chain upgrade. Ideally this first update would be focused on core integrity. With altcoins these days being built upon eachother over and over things inevitably fall behind. What BIPS can we add/fix/improve? Should we adjust any settings? Introduce a tax? Change the block size? Security improvements? Can we get the code for these updates together and review/improve it further it as a community? Once we pull together a large enough update that the community thinks it's worth pushing out, we make the updates go live and continue from there. If we really want Swing to grow strong and thrive and get that activity we want to trade on, this is where we need to focus. Improving swing as a collective, not betting on the rise and fall of yet another lead dev.

It would probably help us proceed with the update if I start a side thread or a subreddit or something, but I'll let some responses and discussion happen first.


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Post by: Woody20285 on September 27, 2015, 01:14:43 AM
Interesting - I was having the discussion with a friend recently.
I think everyone wants marketing (new users to raise price),
quality block explorer/richlist (i.e. presstab or many other quality ones),
website, wheel and dice (so they can gamble their coins) and more development.

They just expect the developer to foot the cost of everything - forever.
I think a small TX for development and extras would not be missed by
anyone but could provide an increase in price. Only question is what is
a reasonalble Tx.

Edit: I think all coins should consider this from the start. Recently DennisLevy,
Crestington and me donated to continue presstab explorer for Con.


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Post by: shapetwist on September 27, 2015, 01:26:25 AM
Reserve

*Edit: No point to go further with this post, since I explained my vision a few posts down.


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Post by: kevin1234a on September 27, 2015, 03:29:34 AM
Interesting - I was having the discussion with a friend recently.
I think everyone wants marketing (new users to raise price),
quality block explorer/richlist (i.e. presstab or many other quality ones),
website, wheel and dice (so they can gamble their coins) and more development.

They just expect the developer to foot the cost of everything - forever.
I think a small TX for development and extras would not be missed by
anyone but could provide an increase in price. Only question is what is
a reasonalble Tx.

I think all coins should consider this from the start. Recently Kevin 1234,
Crestington and me donated to continue presstab explorer for Con.

really did i ............ am not sure but happy to donate my 50% of stake for swing which will be 100 swing for the purpose. just set them aside in wallet so all stakes will be for the development

address SWcQDG13WKmbGA3ePNJLDEtwon1xecAf3M
screen grab http://prntscr.com/8kwzib

murderouskirk and woody you guys let me know if you have any other address where i can send or just ask me whenever you need these funds

cheers



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Post by: Woody20285 on September 27, 2015, 04:06:18 AM
Kevin1234: Great - it is just a suggestion but, very cool of you to jump in.
                 If MurderousKirk posts an address, I'm in and am
                 sure others would donate too!


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 27, 2015, 06:19:58 AM
What exactly are we talking about donating for?

Interesting - I was having the discussion with a friend recently.
I think everyone wants marketing (new users to raise price),
quality block explorer/richlist (i.e. presstab or many other quality ones),
website, wheel and dice (so they can gamble their coins) and more development.

They just expect the developer to foot the cost of everything - forever.
I think a small TX for development and extras would not be missed by
anyone but could provide an increase in price. Only question is what is
a reasonalble Tx.

Edit: I think all coins should consider this from the start. Recently DennisLevy,
Crestington and me donated to continue presstab explorer for Con.


Keep in mind a transaction tax just goes to miners / stakers when they break a new block. Unless you make some considerable changes you can't have the tx fee go to a dev fund.

Those are some good suggestions for moving Swing forward though! All of those things could help Swing get more attention.


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Post by: irwanjabryg on September 27, 2015, 11:00:37 AM
What exactly are we talking about donating for?

Interesting - I was having the discussion with a friend recently.
I think everyone wants marketing (new users to raise price),
quality block explorer/richlist (i.e. presstab or many other quality ones),
website, wheel and dice (so they can gamble their coins) and more development.

They just expect the developer to foot the cost of everything - forever.
I think a small TX for development and extras would not be missed by
anyone but could provide an increase in price. Only question is what is
a reasonalble Tx.

Edit: I think all coins should consider this from the start. Recently DennisLevy,
Crestington and me donated to continue presstab explorer for Con.


Keep in mind a transaction tax just goes to miners / stakers when they break a new block. Unless you make some considerable changes you can't have the tx fee go to a dev fund.

Those are some good suggestions for moving Swing forward though! All of those things could help Swing get more attention.

I hope it does not break a promise dev, dev Siingular proof that a lot of reasons and a lack of funds, many end up harming others


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Post by: shapetwist on September 27, 2015, 07:37:50 PM

What is the purpose of a market listing other than create speculation on further development?

First of all this is exactly what we are trying to avoid here. In my honest opinion speculation on further development is dumb, stale, and deceptive.

I understand wanting more market movement, but if you want that movement from drama centered around my work ethic I can't say I agree even slightly that that's a good idea. It will only lead to drama, fud, bad pumpers, and the death of swing. Instead, why don't we try to add value to Swing rather than temporarily inflating the price through development promises (..then getting angry when the price inevitably returns to where it started)?



I'm just gonna quote what I don't agree on.

It's pretty clear there's some sort of misunderstanding. It has nothing to do with your work ethic. Alas, it would be naive to figure markets are to be avoided when a new currency is created. Not sure if you are aware, I believe so though, but this model is a fantastic solution to many of our known currency issues.

My issue is, regarding this specific quoted topic, exactly what you pointed out: value. It has an inherent factor that is speculation, something that only exists when value is attached. I'm not in favor of vaporware nor deception. I'm asking what is in the pipes as for now, since it seems this awesome reward system isn't enough to grab attention.

I believe something should be done to bring this forward to other audiences. It's an important development and it has little supporters.

Regarding all your other points that I didn't quote, I absolutely agree on all, and again I state my willingness to help if needed.

Thanks for the good work. Hope you understand what I mean.


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 27, 2015, 08:33:58 PM
Alright, so so far what I'm seeing we want to approach is:

Marketing
Block Explorer / Rich list
New Website
Wheel and Dice (Yobit already has dice im pretty sure)


Also I do agree with you Shapetwist.

My only concern/point is that I've seen alts die by the fistfull because they got their entire value from promises of new development. Not the actual development mind you, the promise of new developments coming. That's what I want to avoid because I think it will kill Swing and create an angry mob. Anon transactions.. encrypted messaging.. masternodes.. decentralized this and that.. etc.. etc.. we see it over and over. They promise the development and make a roadmap, price goes up.. probably get pumped, and when it does/doesn't release or is late because the lead dev was busy or hit walls the price tanks and everyone gets pissed off and it's game over. In the end nobody cared at all about the developments because they never actually added much value.. they just created an excuse for a temporary price increase and that's what people were buying / exiting on.

My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??

Swing is still holding pretty strong, stable, and honestly I think it's still gaining more traction even though we aren't seeing big price waves right now. Let's nurture it and we will grow into something awesome. :)



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Post by: shapetwist on September 27, 2015, 08:43:33 PM


My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??


This is what I'm talking about. Thanks for addressing my concerns!
I hope there is enough force within the community to make things happen.

I'm glad you didn't take it as a dev-based issue, because it's not. It's obvious that investors want the best for Swing, but they need to put something more than their btc in it if we want to go forward.

Let's create a community and figure out where to go next.

Thanks murderouskirk


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 27, 2015, 09:01:37 PM


My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??


This is what I'm talking about. Thanks for addressing my concerns!
I hope there is enough force within the community to make things happen.

I'm glad you didn't take it as a dev-based issue, because it's not. It's obvious that investors want the best for Swing, but they need to put something more than their btc in it if we want to go forward.

Let's create a community and figure out where to go next.

Thanks murderouskirk

Sure, and thanks for your honest constructive input! :)

It may take a little while for us to get there, but I think starting with the basics listed above is a great way to make progress.

The one that sticks out to me is the BE/Rich list. I think a higher quality one would be great too. I've always been a fan of Chainz.

So here's what we need to figure out. Which BE do we want to get listed on and how much will it cost?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/index.php


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Post by: shapetwist on September 27, 2015, 09:11:20 PM


My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??


This is what I'm talking about. Thanks for addressing my concerns!
I hope there is enough force within the community to make things happen.

I'm glad you didn't take it as a dev-based issue, because it's not. It's obvious that investors want the best for Swing, but they need to put something more than their btc in it if we want to go forward.

Let's create a community and figure out where to go next.

Thanks murderouskirk

Sure, and thanks for your honest constructive input! :)

It may take a little while for us to get there, but I think starting with the basics listed above is a great way to make progress.

The one that sticks out to me is the BE/Rich list. I think a higher quality one would be great too. I've always been a fan of Chainz.

So here's what we need to figure out. Which BE do we want to get listed on and how much will it cost?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/index.php

We can go with chainz for the time being but improve the website and host our own BE. This is something I can provide, and I welcome any help from the community.

Webwallets should figure too. Not that hard.


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 27, 2015, 09:13:31 PM


My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??


This is what I'm talking about. Thanks for addressing my concerns!
I hope there is enough force within the community to make things happen.

I'm glad you didn't take it as a dev-based issue, because it's not. It's obvious that investors want the best for Swing, but they need to put something more than their btc in it if we want to go forward.

Let's create a community and figure out where to go next.

Thanks murderouskirk

Sure, and thanks for your honest constructive input! :)

It may take a little while for us to get there, but I think starting with the basics listed above is a great way to make progress.

The one that sticks out to me is the BE/Rich list. I think a higher quality one would be great too. I've always been a fan of Chainz.

So here's what we need to figure out. Which BE do we want to get listed on and how much will it cost?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/index.php

We can go with chainz for the time being but improve the website and host our own BE. This is something I can provide, and I welcome any help from the community.

Webwallets should figure too. Not that hard.

Web wallet would be neat, especially if they can stake.

Alright I'll try to figure out how much a chainz wallet costs.


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Post by: shapetwist on September 27, 2015, 10:05:18 PM


My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??


This is what I'm talking about. Thanks for addressing my concerns!
I hope there is enough force within the community to make things happen.

I'm glad you didn't take it as a dev-based issue, because it's not. It's obvious that investors want the best for Swing, but they need to put something more than their btc in it if we want to go forward.

Let's create a community and figure out where to go next.

Thanks murderouskirk

Sure, and thanks for your honest constructive input! :)

It may take a little while for us to get there, but I think starting with the basics listed above is a great way to make progress.

The one that sticks out to me is the BE/Rich list. I think a higher quality one would be great too. I've always been a fan of Chainz.

So here's what we need to figure out. Which BE do we want to get listed on and how much will it cost?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/index.php

We can go with chainz for the time being but improve the website and host our own BE. This is something I can provide, and I welcome any help from the community.

Webwallets should figure too. Not that hard.

Web wallet would be neat, especially if they can stake.

Alright I'll try to figure out how much a chainz wallet costs.

It would be a pretty neat advance on a web staking wallet.

Anyway, Android staking is possible. I'll try to get a quote.


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 27, 2015, 10:38:51 PM
Had a good discussion with Shapetwist about how we can progress swing. I'll make some comments on it later.  :)


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 27, 2015, 10:46:38 PM


My point is just that if we want to improve and add REAL value to Swing in whatever manner we think is appropriate, we need to do it realistically. Outline what we want and figure out how to get it as a community. If we can do that and keep doing that Swing will grow very strong. Operating in this manner adds value not because the dev made a promise, but because the community/coin is capable of evolving and improving over time with or without the dev.. and what will it do next??


This is what I'm talking about. Thanks for addressing my concerns!
I hope there is enough force within the community to make things happen.

I'm glad you didn't take it as a dev-based issue, because it's not. It's obvious that investors want the best for Swing, but they need to put something more than their btc in it if we want to go forward.

Let's create a community and figure out where to go next.

Thanks murderouskirk

Sure, and thanks for your honest constructive input! :)

It may take a little while for us to get there, but I think starting with the basics listed above is a great way to make progress.

The one that sticks out to me is the BE/Rich list. I think a higher quality one would be great too. I've always been a fan of Chainz.

So here's what we need to figure out. Which BE do we want to get listed on and how much will it cost?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/index.php

We can go with chainz for the time being but improve the website and host our own BE. This is something I can provide, and I welcome any help from the community.

Webwallets should figure too. Not that hard.

Web wallet would be neat, especially if they can stake.

Alright I'll try to figure out how much a chainz wallet costs.

It would be a pretty neat advance on a web staking wallet.

Anyway, Android staking is possible. I'll try to get a quote.

yeah a web staking wallet would be pretty handy for people especially if you can unlock the wallet then close the browser and it still stakes... that would be pretty cool


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Post by: shapetwist on September 27, 2015, 11:00:12 PM
yeah a web staking wallet would be pretty handy for people especially if you can unlock the wallet then close the browser and it still stakes... that would be pretty cool

Not impossible but extremely difficult as for now. Your best bet is an Android wallet that stakes even when it's closed. That's a tad easier.

A web wallet is very important though, staking or not. Even without stake, you can leave your funds safe at home and control your market funds from anywhere.

Anyways, there are probably way more advances in the works than you are aware of. Swing is starting.


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Post by: fonzerrellie on September 27, 2015, 11:09:12 PM
stakes this awesome yet we're still only at 259092 total SWING  ;D 8)


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Post by: kevin1234a on September 29, 2015, 02:53:19 AM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?

trying connection 50.27.65.183:16061 lastseen=49.3hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 77.163.255.16:16061 lastseen=16.3hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 24.160.59.242:16061 lastseen=14.2hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 120.191.157.42:16061 lastseen=5.3hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 213.108.119.84:16061 lastseen=4.1hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 75.130.163.51:16061 lastseen=5.7hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 104.40.62.98:16061 lastseen=2.5hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 68.41.180.163:16061 lastseen=7.7hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 72.39.10.246:16061 lastseen=3.8hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 24.53.20.186:16061 lastseen=4.0hrs


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 29, 2015, 05:19:36 AM
Hey!

What is the cost to get listed on https://chainz.cryptoid.info?
Hi,

I ask for a contribution to hosting costs of $100 in BTC per year, or $55 for 6 months.

Let me know if you are interested!

Alright guys. If we want to get a fancy BE / Rich list this is what it's going to cost us.

If you want to make this happen you can send BTC to:

19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg (https://blockchain.info/address/19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg)

We need at least ~0.23 BTC.


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 29, 2015, 05:20:30 AM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?

trying connection 50.27.65.183:16061 lastseen=49.3hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 77.163.255.16:16061 lastseen=16.3hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 24.160.59.242:16061 lastseen=14.2hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 120.191.157.42:16061 lastseen=5.3hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 213.108.119.84:16061 lastseen=4.1hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 75.130.163.51:16061 lastseen=5.7hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 104.40.62.98:16061 lastseen=2.5hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 68.41.180.163:16061 lastseen=7.7hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 72.39.10.246:16061 lastseen=3.8hrs
connection timeout
trying connection 24.53.20.186:16061 lastseen=4.0hrs


How long have you given it to sync? Try leaving it for a while. I noticed when I was catching up one time i sat still for a noticeable while, i went and did something for 30 min and came back and it was caught up. That log is just it going through known connections and seeing if they are online. It's normal to see that.


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Post by: kevin1234a on September 29, 2015, 05:34:03 AM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?
.....snip......


How long have you given it to sync? Try leaving it for a while. I noticed when I was catching up one time i sat still for a noticeable while, i went and did something for 30 min and came back and it was caught up. That log is just it going through known connections and seeing if they are online. It's normal to see that.

and its been more than a hour now, still no sync and will going to re download entire chain and check tomorrow morning.

cheers


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 29, 2015, 05:38:00 AM
Had a good discussion with Shapetwist about how we can progress swing. I'll make some comments on it later.  :)

Alright so in regards to this.

I think there are plenty of tasks that could help grow and further Swing. There will always be these, and there is no way I can keep up with all of them forever myself. While I'm of course willing to help, we need to evolve swing into a self progressing community that isn't reliant on me.

So I've traded in a few coins that have tried to accomplish this, and I think the simplest way is always creating some kind of a Board/Taskforce/whatever you want to call it group. In short, a group of people that want to help having discussions on what should/can be done and how to make it happen. Usually this is done in a private group working directly with the lead dev, but I think making it private is a mistake and leads to conflict. As a result, I think we should just stick with our IRC channel / slack room as our headquarters for progress.

The immediate first issue we run into is numbers. For this to work we need enough people willing to coordinate and help out a little in their free time. Amazingly in cryptos lots of people are usually pretty ampted to find a way to help, but Swing is still small relatively speaking. It's my thinking that our primary focus right now should be promotion. The more people interested in and holding Swing, the larger our community gets, and the stronger our progress potential becomes. Basic word of mouth usually works wonders, but a big calculated pomo campaign can do amazing things.

I'm interested in seeing what everyone thinks the best ways to proceed is, if you want to join the group it's #SwingCoin in IRC, and it's directly linked into my slack group (found in my footer) in the #Swing channel. You can use either to join the discussion.  :)


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Post by: murderouskirk on September 29, 2015, 05:39:22 AM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?
.....snip......


How long have you given it to sync? Try leaving it for a while. I noticed when I was catching up one time i sat still for a noticeable while, i went and did something for 30 min and came back and it was caught up. That log is just it going through known connections and seeing if they are online. It's normal to see that.

and its been more than a hour now, still no sync and will going to re download entire chain and check tomorrow morning.

cheers

Sorry about the inconvenience. Hopefully we can work towards some core improvements to help with things like this.

Let me know how the re-download goes. Feel free to PM me if you need assistance with it.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: operabit on September 29, 2015, 06:24:17 AM
Hopefully the hard work Dev later be the fruit of a good result for SWING, I would still support  ;)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on September 29, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Swing is a good dev and a good climate.

The coin is very little staking works excellent and only a matter of time as the price goes up strongly  8)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: kevin1234a on September 30, 2015, 12:41:43 AM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?
.....snip......


How long have you given it to sync? Try leaving it for a while. I noticed when I was catching up one time i sat still for a noticeable while, i went and did something for 30 min and came back and it was caught up. That log is just it going through known connections and seeing if they are online. It's normal to see that.

and its been more than a hour now, still no sync and will going to re download entire chain and check tomorrow morning.

cheers

Sorry about the inconvenience. Hopefully we can work towards some core improvements to help with things like this.

Let me know how the re-download goes. Feel free to PM me if you need assistance with it.

yeah it worked pretty well all sync and back on track


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on September 30, 2015, 01:51:39 PM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?
.....snip......


How long have you given it to sync? Try leaving it for a while. I noticed when I was catching up one time i sat still for a noticeable while, i went and did something for 30 min and came back and it was caught up. That log is just it going through known connections and seeing if they are online. It's normal to see that.

and its been more than a hour now, still no sync and will going to re download entire chain and check tomorrow morning.

cheers

Sorry about the inconvenience. Hopefully we can work towards some core improvements to help with things like this.

Let me know how the re-download goes. Feel free to PM me if you need assistance with it.

yeah it worked pretty well all sync and back on track

Excellent, thanks for letting me know!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: hashmaster1 on September 30, 2015, 06:49:07 PM
had to restart wallet; having full connections but its not syncing. log file is as follow. anyone else having this issue?
.....snip......


How long have you given it to sync? Try leaving it for a while. I noticed when I was catching up one time i sat still for a noticeable while, i went and did something for 30 min and came back and it was caught up. That log is just it going through known connections and seeing if they are online. It's normal to see that.

and its been more than a hour now, still no sync and will going to re download entire chain and check tomorrow morning.

cheers
        Yes my wallet is working good now i closed it ans restarted and it working fine now thanks for the tip

Sorry about the inconvenience. Hopefully we can work towards some core improvements to help with things like this.

Let me know how the re-download goes. Feel free to PM me if you need assistance with it.

yeah it worked pretty well all sync and back on track

Excellent, thanks for letting me know!
Yes thanks my wallet is working good now and to say i been with this coin from the start downloaded the wallet the day i started to mine this coin it a great coin been let stake since  i started to mine it and i have made 6 time since i mine it,,,


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 01, 2015, 03:07:12 PM
Hey!

What is the cost to get listed on https://chainz.cryptoid.info?
Hi,

I ask for a contribution to hosting costs of $100 in BTC per year, or $55 for 6 months.

Let me know if you are interested!

Alright guys. If we want to get a fancy BE / Rich list this is what it's going to cost us.

If you want to make this happen you can send BTC to:

19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg (https://blockchain.info/address/19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg)

We need at least ~0.23 BTC.

I'll chip in for the Block Explorer. Anybody else?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on October 01, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
Hey!

What is the cost to get listed on https://chainz.cryptoid.info?
Hi,

I ask for a contribution to hosting costs of $100 in BTC per year, or $55 for 6 months.

Let me know if you are interested!

Alright guys. If we want to get a fancy BE / Rich list this is what it's going to cost us.

If you want to make this happen you can send BTC to:

19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg (https://blockchain.info/address/19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg)

We need at least ~0.23 BTC.

I'll chip in for the Block Explorer. Anybody else?

I pay 0.05   TxId: 24014e43fd1672f70f08e410d734fbf161bb0d147bc4a37229835d9f5fcd183e

I invite others :)

As I wrote earlier, Swing is a good dev and a good climate and soon it will be a big coin.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 01, 2015, 05:42:02 PM
Hey!

What is the cost to get listed on https://chainz.cryptoid.info?
Hi,

I ask for a contribution to hosting costs of $100 in BTC per year, or $55 for 6 months.

Let me know if you are interested!

Alright guys. If we want to get a fancy BE / Rich list this is what it's going to cost us.

If you want to make this happen you can send BTC to:

19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg (https://blockchain.info/address/19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg)

We need at least ~0.23 BTC.

I'll chip in for the Block Explorer. Anybody else?

I pay 0.05   TxId: 24014e43fd1672f70f08e410d734fbf161bb0d147bc4a37229835d9f5fcd183e

I invite others :)

As I wrote earlier, Swing is a good dev and a good climate.

Thanks, I will put in the rest.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 01, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Hey!

What is the cost to get listed on https://chainz.cryptoid.info?
Hi,

I ask for a contribution to hosting costs of $100 in BTC per year, or $55 for 6 months.

Let me know if you are interested!

Alright guys. If we want to get a fancy BE / Rich list this is what it's going to cost us.

If you want to make this happen you can send BTC to:

19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg (https://blockchain.info/address/19xfaQ7jrVJpeQzUadvzLzeUpP4PMMYAKg)

We need at least ~0.23 BTC.

I'll chip in for the Block Explorer. Anybody else?

I pay 0.05   TxId: 24014e43fd1672f70f08e410d734fbf161bb0d147bc4a37229835d9f5fcd183e

I invite others :)

As I wrote earlier, Swing is a good dev and a good climate.

Thanks, I will put in the rest.

https://blockchain.info/tx/2bb34ae328c83ba1d26be92030c9db0ab25427a857885fd3d89076551a020532

Hey dev, please get us chainz BE for 6 months!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 01, 2015, 08:31:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ynj0SbN.png

Block explorer live, with richlist (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/)!

Courtesy of Chainz.

Enjoy. Website is next.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on October 01, 2015, 08:48:55 PM
Good job :) Now we are waiting for a cool website.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 01, 2015, 09:00:18 PM
Let me introduce myself then. I'm shapetwist, I twist my shape along the timeline. Been involved with bitcoin since the early beginning, which led me to disappear for a while and enjoy good vacations. Came back to the early alts, and actively traded for profit. Managed to get a window of selling everything and went away again, to a shady and mostly unknown part of the world. When I came back again, alts were everywhere. Picked up a few and started to become active in the community. One alt in particular, went nuts with my presence and marketing strategy. Over x100. Since then I left a few more times upon collecting credits of my work, and here I am again.

Things have changed though, you can't just join a coin and anonymously make it go further. That's why I make this post. There have been so many scams in this forum that almost made me quit. So many lobbys, so many coins with the same shady teams behind. Yet, once in a while, there's a good coin to look upon. I was familiar with GE, and the new update into Swing took a lot of my attention. It's such a clever blockchain that I'm embarrassed for its lack of attention by the general public.

However, that lack of attention might mean a very good thing. Kids wanting to flip a quick buck are out. Whales are out. The market is sincere, and little sells take place, since the rewarding system is so great. It's up to us stakers to explain why is it worth it though.

Hence I volunteer myself, in spite of having started a new project in the meantime, to bring some excitement to SWING. I talked a bit with murderouskirk, our dev, and just bought us a new Block Explorer, hosted by Chainz. More updates should come soon, a new website and a small club of holders, and possibly a few other news.

This is not a takeover of any kind. I am here to help bring SWING forward, but always in touch with the dev. We have talked about it and agreed something should be done. I will give a piece of my time and effort to the project.

Make sure you come back to learn about the latest developments. We might have quite a lot cooking.

Cheers!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 01, 2015, 11:45:37 PM
Awesome. Fantastic happenings today! Really exciting to see the community putting hands on the steering wheel.

I've updated the thread to include the Chainz BE. Lots of interesting data on there.

This especially grabbed my attention as we've discussed it in the past without aanswer:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/#!extraction

Seems like 49% POS 51% POW so far.

ShapeTwist has reached out to me with some great ideas for marketing Swing. Will keep you guys updated as progress is made.

Again, if anyone wants to get involved with progressing Swing all you have to do is join IRC/Slack or PM me! :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 01, 2015, 11:56:35 PM
ShapeTwist has reached out to me with some great ideas for marketing Swing. Will keep you guys updated as progress is made.

Again, if anyone wants to get involved with progressing Swing all you have to do is join IRC/Slack or PM me! :)

Let's please make it open for whoever wants to help. There is much work that can be done and whether you are a designer or a coder or a filmmaker or a simple staking user, you might be able to help. Translations are needed, for example, a small bot to IRC, reddit, contribution to the website, etc, etc, etc. Possibilities are endless.

I reached out to the dev, but I'm hoping more people do. Come forward and be part of it. We will take Swing where it belongs.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 02, 2015, 12:00:00 AM
Translations are needed

Oh so I have a plethora of people wanting me to pay them to translate in my inbox. I never do though because I fear I'd just be paying someone to use google translator.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 02, 2015, 12:15:50 AM
Translations are needed

Oh so I have a plethora of people wanting me to pay them to translate in my inbox. I never do though because I fear I'd just be paying someone to use google translator.

$5 worth of Swing are enough for a translation. Should be stated publicly. Vast post history featuring the translated language must be mandatory.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: tekyboy on October 02, 2015, 04:09:57 AM
i was getting boared thought to spread some word about how cryptocurrency is swinging now a days

https://altcoinsfoundation.com/forum/ann-altcoins/72-swing-programmatically-fluctuating-miner#244
https://allcryptotalk.com/index.php/forum/3-altcoin-announcments/ (thread link is so huge you'll find it on top of the list)
https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/700-cryptocoin-announcements/ (thread link is so huge you'll find it on top of the list)
http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=4975.msg100125#msg100125
http://cryptoscene.com/forums/announcements.13/ (thread link is so huge you'll find it on top of the list)

https://www.facebook.com/tekyboydotcom
https://twitter.com/tekyboy/status/649798006326304768

Swing addy SSf4Dr6NjanJpFLPLZamYG5z2KXY5wWeAo


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: fonzerrellie on October 02, 2015, 06:31:41 AM
Wowza great stuff guys, I have been trying to think of some ideas the last few days but nothing comes to mind. I like the coin the way it is and wouldn't change any specs, I still can't believe I'm staking as well as I am and we're still well under 300k for total money supply

Thanks for getting the explorer up and running, a little marketing could go a long way for swing.

I'll help where I can but I'm no coder, designer etc... just a holder/staker, I have made one post so far on the Crypto Currency Collectors Club on facebook


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 02, 2015, 06:36:46 PM
RT please.

 https://twitter.com/HashStatz/status/650016214308155392


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: WigitGetIt on October 02, 2015, 10:45:47 PM
RT please.

 https://twitter.com/HashStatz/status/650016214308155392

Done  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: hashmaster1 on October 03, 2015, 12:40:45 AM
Coin looking good on the exchange keep up the good work Dev\


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: tech180 on October 03, 2015, 10:25:00 AM
Looks like a good start. Going to mine some coins now.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: RENDERING on October 03, 2015, 02:48:30 PM
Are you going to have a windows wallet?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 03, 2015, 07:40:26 PM
Are you going to have a windows wallet?

Already do!  :)

It's the big picture button in the thread. It probably seemed like less of a button with other links added in there sorry for any confusion.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: RENDERING on October 04, 2015, 02:21:15 PM
Are you going to have a windows wallet?

Already do!  :)

It's the big picture button in the thread. It probably seemed like less of a button with other links added in there sorry for any confusion.

Ok awesome thank you, I missed that. :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: Tripjammer on October 04, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
How many more block are left before the POW award switches?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 04, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
How many more block are left before the POW award switches?


It changes with every block. The POS block reward is based on the last 3 digits of the block number. Example, the block reward for block 32266 would be 2.66

The POW block reward is based on the POS reward with a multiplier of between 0.1 to 1  (POS reward * multiplier = POW reward). This multiplier is based on a 10000 block cycle. Currently the multiplier is 0.2 (2.66 * 0.2 = 0.532 Swing)

http://i.imgur.com/hDPwemw.png


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 05, 2015, 10:06:56 AM
Starting to test the 15k mark! Swing looking strong these past couple days  ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 05, 2015, 10:11:57 AM
http://i.imgur.com/hnFTpzV.png (http://i.imgur.com/hnFTpzV.png)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 05, 2015, 10:43:12 AM
So much for 15k.. testing 20k now..  ;D haha

http://i.imgur.com/TjV7X4i.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/650987998226579456)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: RENDERING on October 05, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
Can you tell me more detail on POS?

How long does it take to stake? I see you said on your thread about five minutes, but I had my wallet open for 8 hours yesterday and none of them went into stake.

How can I calculate how much I will earn on staked coins?

Anything else you can add to how much stake per day etc?

When do the coins come out of stake?

I do not see any info on your thread about it...


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: tkari on October 05, 2015, 09:28:30 PM
if it helps, I'm staking around 1% per day.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 05, 2015, 09:39:02 PM
Can you tell me more detail on POS?

How long does it take to stake? I see you said on your thread about five minutes, but I had my wallet open for 8 hours yesterday and none of them went into stake.

How can I calculate how much I will earn on staked coins?

Anything else you can add to how much stake per day etc?

When do the coins come out of stake?

I do not see any info on your thread about it...

http://i.imgur.com/itfNuHa.png

You can get an idea..


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 05, 2015, 10:20:35 PM
Can you tell me more detail on POS?

How long does it take to stake? I see you said on your thread about five minutes, but I had my wallet open for 8 hours yesterday and none of them went into stake.

How can I calculate how much I will earn on staked coins?

Anything else you can add to how much stake per day etc?

When do the coins come out of stake?

I do not see any info on your thread about it...

It should take about that long for your coins to mature and begin building weight. That doesn't mean you will get a block that fast though. You need to build up enough weight to compete, and that can take a little while if you have a relatively small amount of coins.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: RENDERING on October 05, 2015, 10:37:06 PM
Thanks everyone for your replys.

I see you stake about every 4 hours. Ya mine is not staking anything I have 100 coins right now and none of them will stake. Guess I will leave it open and see if it finally goes.

Does the wallet need to stay open to collect stake?

How long does it take to get them out of stake and can you remove them from the stake manually?

Thanks

Can you tell me more detail on POS?

How long does it take to stake? I see you said on your thread about five minutes, but I had my wallet open for 8 hours yesterday and none of them went into stake.

How can I calculate how much I will earn on staked coins?

Anything else you can add to how much stake per day etc?

When do the coins come out of stake?

I do not see any info on your thread about it...

http://i.imgur.com/itfNuHa.png

You can get an idea..


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 05, 2015, 10:54:50 PM
Thanks everyone for your replys.

I see you stake about every 4 hours. Ya mine is not staking anything I have 100 coins right now and none of them will stake. Guess I will leave it open and see if it finally goes.

Does the wallet need to stay open to collect stake?

How long does it take to get them out of stake and can you remove them from the stake manually?

Thanks

100 coins is a pretty small amount relatively speaking. Small amounts may see coin maturation take longer than others.

In order to stake you need to leave your wallet open.

If it is password protected (HIGHLY suggested) then you need to make sure it is open AND unlocked.

Coins remove themselves from stake pretty quickly. You cannot do it manually though. The best way to do it it to lock your wallet (preventing more coins from going into stake) and wait for your funds to become available again.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: RENDERING on October 05, 2015, 11:00:33 PM
ok cool. thanks man!

Thanks everyone for your replys.

I see you stake about every 4 hours. Ya mine is not staking anything I have 100 coins right now and none of them will stake. Guess I will leave it open and see if it finally goes.

Does the wallet need to stay open to collect stake?

How long does it take to get them out of stake and can you remove them from the stake manually?

Thanks

100 coins is a pretty small amount relatively speaking. Small amounts may see coin maturation take longer than others.

In order to stake you need to leave your wallet open.

If it is password protected (HIGHLY suggested) then you need to make sure it is open AND unlocked.

Coins remove themselves from stake pretty quickly. You cannot do it manually though. The best way to do it it to lock your wallet (preventing more coins from going into stake) and wait for your funds to become available again.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 05, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
Sure thing! Let me know if I can help with anything else. Goodluck!  :)

ok cool. thanks man!

Thanks everyone for your replys.

I see you stake about every 4 hours. Ya mine is not staking anything I have 100 coins right now and none of them will stake. Guess I will leave it open and see if it finally goes.

Does the wallet need to stay open to collect stake?

How long does it take to get them out of stake and can you remove them from the stake manually?

Thanks

100 coins is a pretty small amount relatively speaking. Small amounts may see coin maturation take longer than others.

In order to stake you need to leave your wallet open.

If it is password protected (HIGHLY suggested) then you need to make sure it is open AND unlocked.

Coins remove themselves from stake pretty quickly. You cannot do it manually though. The best way to do it it to lock your wallet (preventing more coins from going into stake) and wait for your funds to become available again.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 06, 2015, 04:18:54 PM
 :)

@Crypto_Analyst (https://twitter.com/Crypto_Analyst/status/651427869034434564) just tweeted

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SwingCoin is the winner of the last 3 days, from 0.00005707 to 0.00012034 is up 110.86% $SWING


Please RT https://twitter.com/Crypto_Analyst/status/651427869034434564 (https://twitter.com/Crypto_Analyst/status/651427869034434564)



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 06, 2015, 06:17:38 PM
Looks like Swing is on a roll :)

@Crypto_Analyst (https://twitter.com/Crypto_Analyst/status/651458067201138689) tweeted

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Best performers over the last 2 hours SwingCoin (77.85%), DarkTron (33.26%), iBits (27.27%)...


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 07, 2015, 02:15:21 AM
Looks like Swing is on a roll :)

@Crypto_Analyst (https://twitter.com/Crypto_Analyst/status/651458067201138689) tweeted

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Best performers over the last 2 hours SwingCoin (77.85%), DarkTron (33.26%), iBits (27.27%)...


Yeah doing great this past week. :)

Looks like a new floor is forming around 10k in the orders.

http://i.imgur.com/xxpEK1X.png


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 07, 2015, 07:49:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ecaQsJw.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/651665352838000640)


Title: Vote for Swing on Cryptsy
Post by: Geniusincuba on October 07, 2015, 02:22:47 PM
I suggested Swing on Cryptsy, it is now in the Voting section, Please Vote, would be nice to get this coin on another exchange.  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on October 07, 2015, 03:45:37 PM
My wallet does not synchronize from yesterday. Any ideas? :)
Several times I did restart, but it did not help.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 07, 2015, 05:17:32 PM
My wallet does not synchronize from yesterday. Any ideas? :)
Several times I did restart, but it did not help.

Save wallet.dat and redownload the chain. It will solve it.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 07, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
Just a few thoughts:

- The coin is kinda new and it's slowly gathering attention and a bigger community acceptance.

- Greed turned into Greed Evolved that turned into Swing. The two earlier projects were experiments but everyone was able to swap their older coins for the new Swing. No one was left out burning.

- Swing is a more serious experiment, extremely innovative rewards-wise.

- Marketcap is super low. There are very little coins across both exchanges (YoBit and Bittrex). And not many people are selling.

- People that understand the 'swinging' are able to mine/stake at the best times and optimize their rewards.

- I've talked a bit with the dev, it's pretty obvious that the way to go is community wise. He's here and active, but he is very welcome of our thoughts and actions. Anyone can contribute and be part of the Swing future.

- A lot of further 'work' can and will be done for Swing, inspired by the community. Some of it is already coming. Things such as cloud or mobile staking, Web wallets, mac wallet, integrated Block Explorer, Swing charts with live stats, a new website, translations, promotion, etc.
In times like this, most of it is pretty cheap since everyone has something they can contribute with.

Probably would be wise to add the Swing fund address to the OP, and state the areas of future growth, so things can be accomplished.

And I'm sure when this starts to roll, when everyone realizes how cheap Swing is according to supply, everyone will be quite happy they were part of it.



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on October 07, 2015, 05:59:37 PM
My wallet does not synchronize from yesterday. Any ideas? :)
Several times I did restart, but it did not help.

Save wallet.dat and redownload the chain. It will solve it.

OK, it works again. :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: tekyboy on October 08, 2015, 04:04:55 AM
hey guys i just added Swing to my recently launched pool @ TekyBoy Mining Pool (http://tekyboy.tk), could you guys add it to the pool list and pls dont hesitate to direct some hash power towards it :D



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 08, 2015, 06:49:40 AM
hey guys i just added Swing to my recently launched pool @ TekyBoy Mining Pool (http://tekyboy.tk), could you guys add it to the pool list and pls dont hesitate to direct some hash power towards it :D



Thanks!

Added to ann.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: operabit on October 08, 2015, 11:43:00 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ecaQsJw.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/651665352838000640)

Yeah! Big profit $SWING  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: herzogzwei on October 08, 2015, 12:24:39 PM
Personal thank you to the bittrex dumper at less than half the going rate, more please   ;D

yep, someone is really crazy at bittrex charts ;D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 08, 2015, 05:54:58 PM
Wow huge jump in volume overnight. I am vary interested to see how things progress.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 08, 2015, 06:03:54 PM
http://i.imgur.com/pP1lmDn.png

https://twitter.com/shapetwist/status/652182315997765636

:) coin is a baby!

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/#@inflation


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 08, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
Here's a mac wallet build for the Apple users:

https://mega.nz/#!9BYVxSAb!8SEo27Efo3rYiMtQBgdCg0agk2L9BTLKVoDcsoPvQ5E

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/71216ea7e98991af2c7f6226d581d2ba513e14cc585f8e8d0f6cf04bf112f755/analysis/1444340768/

Let me know if it's all fine.

EDIT: there's a little mistake with an icon, but seems to be working fine. Will upload that fix soon.

EDIT 2: Links are updated with fixed icon. OP is also display the latest correct link. Enjoy.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 08, 2015, 06:56:52 PM
Here's a mac wallet build for the Apple users:

https://mega.nz/#!pcYU2YjK!0ub6RdF8sd3GkmDP8tiUwoOnNNhXFi5mp253qtdXWHM

https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/71216ea7e98991af2c7f6226d581d2ba513e14cc585f8e8d0f6cf04bf112f755/analysis/1444330546/

Let me know if it's all fine.

Added to the ANN, thanks!  ;D


Title: Re: Vote for Swing on Cryptsy
Post by: HashStatz on October 08, 2015, 10:13:53 PM
I suggested Swing on Cryptsy, it is now in the Voting section, Please Vote, would be nice to get this coin on another exchange.  :)

done


Title: Re: Vote for Swing on Cryptsy
Post by: shapetwist on October 08, 2015, 10:15:38 PM
I suggested Swing on Cryptsy, it is now in the Voting section, Please Vote, would be nice to get this coin on another exchange.  :)

done

Link: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes (you have to be registered)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 08, 2015, 10:34:01 PM
I'll again call out on the community. While staking you can do things to help. Just reach out!

There are plans that need people and funds and general help.

Going forward is pretty much up to any community member. Everyone has a saying.

Let's join our abilities to make Swing progress. Get in touch.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: tech180 on October 08, 2015, 11:33:53 PM
I sent 1800 coins over from bittrex to my wallet and now my wallet will not sync up. Just says out of sync. And idea how to fix it? My other wallets are fine that are on the same PC. I disabled to virus scan, firewall, and all security to see if that would do it, and nothing. I was able to back up the wallet, so maybe wiping it all out and starting again?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 08, 2015, 11:37:15 PM
I sent 1800 coins over from bittrex to my wallet and now my wallet will not sync up. Just says out of sync. And idea how to fix it? My other wallets are fine that are on the same PC. I disabled to virus scan, firewall, and all security to see if that would do it, and nothing. I was able to back up the wallet, so maybe wiping it all out and starting again?

Yeah, save wallet.dat and re-download the chain. It will fix it.
It's not very common but can happen.

If you need more detailed explanation let me know.


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Post by: tech180 on October 08, 2015, 11:59:25 PM
All is fixed, just renamed the swing data folder to something else, reopened the wallet software and then moved my backup over. All is good again. I think this may have happened because I upgraded the CPU and memory on this PC.

Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: locohammerhead on October 09, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
I will admit I'm hoarding my SWING without really saying much about it to keep the diff low and my stakes coming in fast.  Really like the concept and it stakes like a beast.  Block switching looks like it works flawlessly and majority of blocks are going to PoS as expected.

I'm a bad bad boy lol


Title: Re: Vote for Swing on Cryptsy
Post by: tkari on October 09, 2015, 03:22:07 PM
Done


I suggested Swing on Cryptsy, it is now in the Voting section, Please Vote, would be nice to get this coin on another exchange.  :)

done

Link: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes (you have to be registered)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 09, 2015, 05:06:48 PM
I will admit I'm hoarding my SWING without really saying much about it to keep the diff low and my stakes coming in fast.  Really like the concept and it stakes like a beast.  Block switching looks like it works flawlessly and majority of blocks are going to PoS as expected.

I'm a bad bad boy lol

It really works as expected, not some theory bullshit. Rewards coming in to my wallet non-stop! :D I'm guessing more people are doing the same and keeping their silence! :) I wonder how long it's gonna last!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: malickie on October 10, 2015, 06:59:27 AM
Yeah, I have been staking the coin since I hit about 400 of them.  Staking is working flawlessly.  Of course I wish I had more, but my funds on things are getting a bit strained :D.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: hashmaster1 on October 10, 2015, 11:09:50 PM
For the last 2 days my wallet has been saying out of sync has anyone else wallet having that problem and how do i fix this issue with the wallet ....


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 10, 2015, 11:35:54 PM
For the last 2 days my wallet has been saying out of sync has anyone else wallet having that problem and how do i fix this issue with the wallet ....

Please try re-downloading the blockchain. That should solve the problem. If not let me know and we will get you sorted out eventually.  :)

Sorry for the inconvenience, I'm hoping to work towards a connectivity upgrade in the future.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 11, 2015, 12:18:06 PM
I will admit I'm hoarding my SWING without really saying much about it to keep the diff low and my stakes coming in fast.  Really like the concept and it stakes like a beast.  Block switching looks like it works flawlessly and majority of blocks are going to PoS as expected.

I'm a bad bad boy lol

It really works as expected, not some theory bullshit. Rewards coming in to my wallet non-stop! :D I'm guessing more people are doing the same and keeping their silence! :) I wonder how long it's gonna last!

shhhh

Happy to hear people are enjoying it by the way!

It's interesting to see how Swing is settling into Bittrex.

It seems like you are not alone in hording / staking, just glancing at the distribution it appears only (roughly) 10% - 15% of the supply has chosen to leave their coins on Bittrex.

We're starting to see some nice positioning and maneuvering in the orderbooks as well. The ceiling and floor have been tested repeatedly over the past week.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: hashmaster1 on October 11, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
For the last 2 days my wallet has been saying out of sync has anyone else wallet having that problem and how do i fix this issue with the wallet ....

Please try re-downloading the blockchain. That should solve the problem. If not let me know and we will get you sorted out eventually.  :)

Sorry for the inconvenience, I'm hoping to work towards a connectivity upgrade in the future.
Can i get the link to the blockchain thanks for your help


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 11, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
For the last 2 days my wallet has been saying out of sync has anyone else wallet having that problem and how do i fix this issue with the wallet ....

Please try re-downloading the blockchain. That should solve the problem. If not let me know and we will get you sorted out eventually.  :)

Sorry for the inconvenience, I'm hoping to work towards a connectivity upgrade in the future.
Can i get the link to the blockchain thanks for your help

To redownload?

You need to pull it from the network.

What you do is:

go to appdata/roaming/Swing

Backup wallet.dat (wallet.dat = all your money double check you have it secure and backed up before proceeding)

Delete everything in the folder except wallet.dat (Or delete it all and restore wallet.dat from your backup)

Start up Swing, you will see the files generate back in the folder and the blockchain will start to re-download once it connects to peers.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: hashmaster1 on October 11, 2015, 09:30:18 PM
For the last 2 days my wallet has been saying out of sync has anyone else wallet having that problem and how do i fix this issue with the wallet ....

Please try re-downloading the blockchain. That should solve the problem. If not let me know and we will get you sorted out eventually.  :)

Sorry for the inconvenience, I'm hoping to work towards a connectivity upgrade in the future.
Can i get the link to the blockchain thanks for your help

To redownload?

You need to pull it from the network.

What you do is:

go to appdata/roaming/Swing

Backup wallet.dat (wallet.dat = all your money double check you have it secure and backed up before proceeding)

Delete everything in the folder except wallet.dat (Or delete it all and restore wallet.dat from your backup)

Start up Swing, you will see the files generate back in the folder and the blockchain will start to re-download once it connects to peers.
Well i did what you said after re-downloading the wallet it syncs with the blockchain this time it working great appreciate the help ....


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: locohammerhead on October 13, 2015, 04:40:48 AM
I'm happy with the coin so far.  I'm not even close to top 10 yet (hoping for a dip but the resistance is making that unlikely) and im making some good btc.  Stakes well, confirms quickly.  


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: merl52 on October 13, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
Im glad never sold all my coin. Now im trying to buy  back some of the coin that i did sell great we all make mistake that was my biggest one this year.  Dev keep up the good work .


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on October 13, 2015, 08:20:35 PM
I think that the new floor should be 20-30k sat.
Most keep their coins in wallet, which is very profitable.
It seems to me that Swing repeat the success XRA or FLY :)

Great job dev and we waiting on new information.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: waterpile on October 14, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
Last week in yobit trade volume dropped completely  :( ,
although the price, and remains at the same level. Any forecasts?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 14, 2015, 02:10:44 PM
Last week in yobit trade volume dropped completely  :( ,
although the price, and remains at the same level. Any forecasts?

most people are trading at bittrex now https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 14, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
I think that the new floor should be 20-30k sat.
Most keep their coins in wallet, which is very profitable.
It seems to me that Swing repeat the success XRA or FLY :)

Great job dev and we waiting on new information.

Thanks!

So the latest info is this.

I've been chatting with a couple developers about having that chart made.

(The one that compares price vs. expected reward vs. total supply)

I'm trying to get to the point where one of them says they can do it for certain and is ready to start. Once we get to that point I'll let you guys know. The one I'm trying to work with is asking for 1 btc and I have previous experience working with him. The other is asking for 2 btc and is currently my backup.

Aside from that Shapetwist has been perusing some interesting additions for swing, though I believe none have progressed enough to start getting anyone excited about.

Lastly shapetwist and I have been talking about overhauling the website. This one shouldn't be too hard and is likely to hit before anything else.

If you want to help with any of this or get involved in any way, just come chat in slack or IRC!  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: HashStatz on October 14, 2015, 09:13:37 PM
Volume is heating up again on Bittrex. ~5.6 BTC in the past 5 hours.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: BluRPie on October 17, 2015, 05:50:37 PM
Huge dump


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 17, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
Huge dump

Swings! :)

Sorry for the potato quality, but here's a sneak peak:



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 17, 2015, 11:30:24 PM
Huge dump

Swings! :)

Sorry for the potato quality, but here's a sneak peak:


Yeah just swings  :) I think only like 1k - 2k coins sold just the buy orders moved down a little. People trying to get cheap swing. (I put a low buy order in too hah, no luck yet  :-\ )


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: operabit on October 19, 2015, 02:22:56 AM
Yeah I've got some swing, impatient people to buy it again towards 30k satoshi  :D


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 19, 2015, 05:48:55 PM
Making progress on the new website. It's looking like we will have a nice live chart (maybe charts) to keep track of expected rewards vs price vs total supply.

http://i.imgur.com/FXhMIF1.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/656165479183052800)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: operabit on October 19, 2015, 09:24:10 PM
Making progress on the new website. It's looking like we will have a nice live chart (maybe charts) to keep track of expected rewards vs price vs total supply.

http://i.imgur.com/FXhMIF1.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/656165479183052800)

Nice, Go to the MOON!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on October 20, 2015, 04:46:39 AM
This coin stakes very well. I've had no orphans in three weeks. Low supply and low price right now. This coin will only increase in price I think. I'll keep hoarding and staking. You need to be very active about your input management to minimize your weight consumption while staking and maximize your average wallet-to-network weight ratio. This coin seems very well suited for the average or casual staker who doesn't have many coins and likes a good return on a small investment.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on October 20, 2015, 05:59:05 PM
This coin stakes very well. I've had no orphans in three weeks. Low supply and low price right now. This coin will only increase in price I think. I'll keep hoarding and staking. You need to be very active about your input management to minimize your weight consumption while staking and maximize your average wallet-to-network weight ratio. This coin seems very well suited for the average or casual staker who doesn't have many coins and likes a good return on a small investment.

Really nice to see that some people get it and are able to take the most of it. Honestly I am surprised the coin is still relatively unknown. Well, sweet times to accumulate!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: tekyboy on October 22, 2015, 12:14:36 AM
http://i62.tinypic.com/1zmfplh.png

TekyBoy Mining Pool (http://tekyboy.com/pool)

Critical Update

guys i do apologize but due to some urgent database maintenance and shifting of servers i had to temporary close all pools after 3 hrs @ 2300 hrs EST. Hence you are requested to take your miners off so the payouts will get process smoothly till that time.

This critical maintenance is for upgrading back-end databases which might cause all pool miners data to reset.

Pools will be back on within 3 hrs

Appreciate your cooperation

thanks,


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 22, 2015, 12:26:47 AM
http://i62.tinypic.com/1zmfplh.png

TekyBoy Mining Pool (http://tekyboy.com/pool)

Critical Update

guys i do apologize but due to some urgent database maintenance and shifting of servers i had to temporary close all pools after 3 hrs @ 2300 hrs EST. Hence you are requested to take your miners off so the payouts will get process smoothly till that time.

This critical maintenance is for upgrading back-end databases which might cause all pool miners data to reset.

Pools will be back on within 3 hrs

Appreciate your cooperation

thanks,

Thanks for the heads up  :)


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Post by: Bitr8er on October 22, 2015, 07:22:11 AM
Swing Faucet
Hourly reward of .01 to .08 SWING

http://freecoinfaucet.com/swing/


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Post by: jcksteve on October 22, 2015, 11:59:39 AM
Swing Faucet
Hourly reward of .01 to .08 SWING

http://freecoinfaucet.com/swing/


Good..thx, recevied 0.021 SWING


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on October 23, 2015, 02:34:15 AM
I've been experimenting with different input amounts to try and increase my relative weight. I've been trying to find an equilibrium between magnitude of inputs and size of inputs. I think, it may be more profitable to stake with multiple wallet when you have more than a few thousand swing. This is because of the nStakeCombineThreshold at "1000 * COIN." I think if it were amended, then there would be a reduced incentive for someone to run multiple wallets. This idea I have is under the assumption that running multiple wallets does not give someone an unfair advantage to receive staked rewards. If running multiple wallets through VMs does constitute an unfair advantage, then perhaps an amendment of the combine threshold would eliminate or even just reduced the incentive to do so. Then again multiple wallets would make the network stronger, as long as the owner's security is top notch.

 ???



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Post by: rons on October 24, 2015, 09:36:42 AM
The wallet show out of sync ???


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Post by: BluRPie on October 24, 2015, 04:24:18 PM
The wallet show out of sync ???


Working perfectly fine here.


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Post by: shapetwist on October 24, 2015, 04:59:02 PM
The wallet show out of sync ???


You better save/backup wallet.dat and remove appdata. Then import wallet.dat again.

I think dev is looking into connectivity issues. Happens quite a lot lately.


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 24, 2015, 06:25:18 PM
The wallet show out of sync ???


You better save/backup wallet.dat and remove appdata. Then import wallet.dat again.

I think dev is looking into connectivity issues. Happens quite a lot lately.

Yeah you need to redownload the blockchain sorry for the inconveniance. I think I've identified a connectivity upgrade but it involves a fork. I personally feel it's best to wait till we can bundle In some more upgrades (security, latest bips.. etc...) before we try to push that update. It also allows community members to discuss possible amendments like in the comment above (which I will reply to in a minute). If it helps I think you only have a chance of falling out of sync after disconnecting from the network for a while. Far as I've noticed at least.


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 24, 2015, 06:29:24 PM
I've been experimenting with different input amounts to try and increase my relative weight. I've been trying to find an equilibrium between magnitude of inputs and size of inputs. I think, it may be more profitable to stake with multiple wallet when you have more than a few thousand swing. This is because of the nStakeCombineThreshold at "1000 * COIN." I think if it were amended, then there would be a reduced incentive for someone to run multiple wallets. This idea I have is under the assumption that running multiple wallets does not give someone an unfair advantage to receive staked rewards. If running multiple wallets through VMs does constitute an unfair advantage, then perhaps an amendment of the combine threshold would eliminate or even just reduced the incentive to do so. Then again multiple wallets would make the network stronger, as long as the owner's security is top notch.

 ???



This is actually some really interesting questioning and insight thank you for posting and digging into it a little. This is exactly the kind of discussion we need to work towards improving the core. To be honest I have not dug into that portion of the code very deeply. However, I have been under the impression that coins split into two inputs when they stake not combine. Are you under the impression that they recombine when you have more than 1k? Or am I completely mistaken here?

Thanks for the discussion!  :)


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 24, 2015, 06:50:19 PM
Side note. I believe our fancy new price vs expected pow/pos rewards vs supply chart is about ready (it looks great). I'm hoping to get it live for you guys sometime this weekend.


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 24, 2015, 09:17:35 PM
I've been experimenting with different input amounts to try and increase my relative weight. I've been trying to find an equilibrium between magnitude of inputs and size of inputs. I think, it may be more profitable to stake with multiple wallet when you have more than a few thousand swing. This is because of the nStakeCombineThreshold at "1000 * COIN." I think if it were amended, then there would be a reduced incentive for someone to run multiple wallets. This idea I have is under the assumption that running multiple wallets does not give someone an unfair advantage to receive staked rewards. If running multiple wallets through VMs does constitute an unfair advantage, then perhaps an amendment of the combine threshold would eliminate or even just reduced the incentive to do so. Then again multiple wallets would make the network stronger, as long as the owner's security is top notch.

 ???



This is actually some really interesting questioning and insight thank you for posting and digging into it a little. This is exactly the kind of discussion we need to work towards improving the core. To be honest I have not dug into that portion of the code very deeply. However, I have been under the impression that coins split into two inputs when they stake not combine. Are you under the impression that they recombine when you have more than 1k? Or am I completely mistaken here?

Thanks for the discussion!  :)



Yes, if you have thousands of coins in the wallet, then they will split and then recombine depending on the number of inputs your wallet has. If you have a high number of inputs, then the wallet will recombine them in chunks of 1000 coins, and then proceed to split into two inputs from there.

Here are some examples:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/tx.dws?82948.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?50666.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?50657.htm

If you were inclined to change the nStakeCombineThreshold in a future wallet release, it could be found at the top of the wallet.cpp file.

I think the problem with such a low amount of coins to combine can be disadvantageous to those with more than one thousand coins in their wallet because the transactions that combine your inputs destroys over 1000 stake weight and te new weight climbs more slowly. On the other hand, it gives an advantage to those with lower amounts of coins because they can achieve a closer to full stake weight with their smaller inputs, and they wan also create as many inputs as the'd like.

Although, the probability that you will hit a staked block increases with input size, so that may be the reason for the slower accumulation of weight in relation to input size.

I think if the nStakeCombineThreshold were increased to somewhere between 2500-5000 in a future release, then it would be more fair to those with medium size wallets, considering the low supply of coins. Once the supply of Swing is in the multimillions, it may make sense to adjust it down. jmho



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Post by: rons on October 25, 2015, 02:04:29 PM
Stratum port: 3388
stratum1.suchpool.pw:3388
stratum2.suchpool.pw:3388
Not normal mining     ???


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Post by: BluRPie on October 25, 2015, 04:32:02 PM
Stratum port: 3388
stratum1.suchpool.pw:3388
stratum2.suchpool.pw:3388
Not normal mining     ???

having issues mining?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on October 25, 2015, 11:32:47 PM
Hey everybody, I'll be raining SWING in the Yobit trollbox to try and generate interest and get some new people involved.


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 25, 2015, 11:38:53 PM
Status report: Chart's done. I'm just letting it go through at least 1k blocks to get some data on it. Finishing up the website update to compliment it. Expect it to launch sometime around/after block 52k. (Currently 51,700)


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 25, 2015, 11:40:10 PM
Hey everybody, I'll be raining SWING in the Yobit trollbox to try and generate interest and get some new people involved.

Awesome! Thanks for doing this. I managed to catch the last few messages where you were chatting with people about getting the wallet downloaded and staking. Good work!  :)


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 26, 2015, 12:03:41 AM
Hey everybody, I'll be raining SWING in the Yobit trollbox to try and generate interest and get some new people involved.

Awesome! Thanks for doing this. I managed to catch the last few messages where you were chatting with people about getting the wallet downloaded and staking. Good work!  :)

Thanks! We need to get more people involved and build the network and community. Just trying to help out!


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 26, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
Status report: Chart's done. I'm just letting it go through at least 1k blocks to get some data on it. Finishing up the website update to compliment it. Expect it to launch sometime around/after block 52k. (Currently 51,700)

Very excited about this! Thanks!


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 26, 2015, 09:29:02 AM
Alright guys, chart released and website cleaned up a little to go with it.

Check it out!

Swing Expected Rewards vs Price vs Total Supply

TrySwing.com (http://TrySwing.com)

or

TrySwing.com/chart (http://TrySwing.com/chart)

http://i.imgur.com/XmvbZXU.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/658573675634012160)


So the latest info is this.

I've been chatting with a couple developers about having that chart made.

(The one that compares price vs. expected reward vs. total supply)

I'm trying to get to the point where one of them says they can do it for certain and is ready to start. Once we get to that point I'll let you guys know. The one I'm trying to work with is asking for 1 btc and I have previous experience working with him. The other is asking for 2 btc and is currently my backup.

Aside from that Shapetwist has been perusing some interesting additions for swing, though I believe none have progressed enough to start getting anyone excited about.

Lastly shapetwist and I have been talking about overhauling the website. This one shouldn't be too hard and is likely to hit before anything else.

If you want to help with any of this or get involved in any way, just come chat in slack or IRC!  :)

So we went with the one looking for 1btc that I've worked with in the past. He was kind enough to work towards getting our chart live before the 1 BTC was raised.

Any help pulling together the btc is extremely helpful in this situation. 0.1 here and .05 there adds up fast. If you appreciate his work on our new chart, consider showing him some support.

1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71

Some additional cool info:

The dev has stated that he is willing to entertain the idea of upgrading the chart with more data/features once it's been paid off just for the sake of making it better.

Once we pull together his 1btc and get him paid we can likely get some more stats added to the chart such as:

Trade volume
Order depth
Net Hashrate
Net Difficulties
Number of connected parties
Number of Coins being moved
On-Click events opening Chainz BE details for specific blocks
etc.. etc.. (Your ideas welcome here!)

I'm sure you guys can think up more possibilities and the thought of getting more data excites me, hopefully you guys too.

Anyway, happy to hear constructive feedback at this point. I'm already using the chart like crazy with 1 day of data recorded, hopefully you guys find it as useful as I do.


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 26, 2015, 08:04:16 PM
the chart looks good! I can't wait until the new features are available. currently I can only see today and that's it.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on October 26, 2015, 09:15:49 PM
Alright guys, chart released and website cleaned up a little to go with it.

Check it out!

Swing Expected Rewards vs Price vs Total Supply

TrySwing.com (http://TrySwing.com)

or

TrySwing.com/chart (http://TrySwing.com/chart)

http://i.imgur.com/XmvbZXU.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/658573675634012160)


So the latest info is this.

I've been chatting with a couple developers about having that chart made.

(The one that compares price vs. expected reward vs. total supply)

I'm trying to get to the point where one of them says they can do it for certain and is ready to start. Once we get to that point I'll let you guys know. The one I'm trying to work with is asking for 1 btc and I have previous experience working with him. The other is asking for 2 btc and is currently my backup.

Aside from that Shapetwist has been perusing some interesting additions for swing, though I believe none have progressed enough to start getting anyone excited about.

Lastly shapetwist and I have been talking about overhauling the website. This one shouldn't be too hard and is likely to hit before anything else.

If you want to help with any of this or get involved in any way, just come chat in slack or IRC!  :)

So we went with the one looking for 1btc that I've worked with in the past. He was kind enough to work towards getting our chart live before the 1 BTC was raised.

Any help pulling together the btc is extremely helpful in this situation. 0.1 here and .05 there adds up fast. If you appreciate his work on our new chart, consider showing him some support.

1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71 (https://blockchain.info/address/1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71)

Some additional cool info:

The dev has stated that he is willing to entertain the idea of upgrading the chart with more data/features once it's been paid off just for the sake of making it better.

Once we pull together his 1btc and get him paid we can likely get some more stats added to the chart such as:

Trade volume
Order depth
Net Hashrate
Net Difficulties
Number of connected parties
Number of Coins being moved
On-Click events opening Chainz BE details for specific blocks
etc.. etc.. (Your ideas welcome here!)

I'm sure you guys can think up more possibilities and the thought of getting more data excites me, hopefully you guys too.

Anyway, happy to hear constructive feedback at this point. I'm already using the chart like crazy with 1 day of data recorded, hopefully you guys find it as useful as I do.

the chart looks good! I can't wait until the new features are available. currently I can only see today and that's it.

Glad to hear you like it. It's recording data as it does, it's not setup to crawl backwards at this point in time. So 1 day is about right.


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 27, 2015, 08:20:03 PM
Hey everybody, let's get the volume up and start trading with each other. It's more fun when there are more active traders!


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 28, 2015, 06:28:46 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jBucFjJ.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/659256294457536514)


Title: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: VentureC on October 28, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jBucFjJ.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/659256294457536514)

Don't get the word out too much yet, hehe.  Swing is a goldmine for those who are in it right now.  ;D

Just kidding, it's just my greedy self speaking. Yes, it would be great to get some more exposure for Swing and introduce the coin to a greater audience.



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Post by: NoobKidOnTheBlock on October 28, 2015, 05:36:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jBucFjJ.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/659256294457536514)

Don't get the word out too much yet, hehe.  Swing is a goldmine for those who are in it right now.  ;D

Just kidding, it's just my greedy self speaking. Yes, it would be great to get some more exposure for Swing and introduce the coin to a greater audience.


Frigging rights SWING is a goldmine for anyone who has gotten into this coin early on :) I'm honestly surprised that we haven't had clone after clone after clone of this coin yet!! That just blows my mind because the entire concept is just awesome!!


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 28, 2015, 07:35:10 PM
I've been doing some testing with wallets that have around 600-700 each. They still will combine the inputs even the the nStakeCombineThreshold is 1000. Does anyone know why that is?



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Post by: murderouskirk on October 28, 2015, 08:26:20 PM
I've been doing some testing with wallets that have around 600-700 each. They still will combine the inputs even the the nStakeCombineThreshold is 1000. Does anyone know why that is?



Just guesswork and theory here, but I would assume that it's not advantageous to allow staking inputs to get too small.


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 28, 2015, 09:12:14 PM
I've been doing some testing with wallets that have around 600-700 each. They still will combine the inputs even the the nStakeCombineThreshold is 1000. Does anyone know why that is?



Just guesswork and theory here, but I would assume that it's not advantageous to allow staking inputs to get too small.

I had the inputs at 100 for some and 200 for other wallets.

I still have two running with 600 each and they have weights of 962 and 888. They both have already staked once each, splitting an input of 200.

I also am experimenting with two other wallets with 200 in each. The first has one input of 200. The other has five inputs of 20 an ten inputs of 10. So far I've found that weight climbs faster for larger inputs. I was under the impression that more and smaller inputs gained weight faster, but maybe I was wrong.


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 29, 2015, 12:41:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jBucFjJ.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/659256294457536514)

Yes, definitely. This is an excellent idea!


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 29, 2015, 04:07:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cu55LKc.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/659886439333670912)


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 29, 2015, 06:23:52 PM
Alright guys, chart released and website cleaned up a little to go with it.

Check it out!

Swing Expected Rewards vs Price vs Total Supply

TrySwing.com (http://TrySwing.com)

or

TrySwing.com/chart (http://TrySwing.com/chart)

http://i.imgur.com/XmvbZXU.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/658573675634012160)


So the latest info is this.

I've been chatting with a couple developers about having that chart made.

(The one that compares price vs. expected reward vs. total supply)

I'm trying to get to the point where one of them says they can do it for certain and is ready to start. Once we get to that point I'll let you guys know. The one I'm trying to work with is asking for 1 btc and I have previous experience working with him. The other is asking for 2 btc and is currently my backup.

Aside from that Shapetwist has been perusing some interesting additions for swing, though I believe none have progressed enough to start getting anyone excited about.

Lastly shapetwist and I have been talking about overhauling the website. This one shouldn't be too hard and is likely to hit before anything else.

If you want to help with any of this or get involved in any way, just come chat in slack or IRC!  :)

So we went with the one looking for 1btc that I've worked with in the past. He was kind enough to work towards getting our chart live before the 1 BTC was raised.

Any help pulling together the btc is extremely helpful in this situation. 0.1 here and .05 there adds up fast. If you appreciate his work on our new chart, consider showing him some support.

1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71

Some additional cool info:

The dev has stated that he is willing to entertain the idea of upgrading the chart with more data/features once it's been paid off just for the sake of making it better.

Once we pull together his 1btc and get him paid we can likely get some more stats added to the chart such as:

Trade volume
Order depth
Net Hashrate
Net Difficulties
Number of connected parties
Number of Coins being moved
On-Click events opening Chainz BE details for specific blocks
etc.. etc.. (Your ideas welcome here!)

I'm sure you guys can think up more possibilities and the thought of getting more data excites me, hopefully you guys too.

Anyway, happy to hear constructive feedback at this point. I'm already using the chart like crazy with 1 day of data recorded, hopefully you guys find it as useful as I do.

Great work! Anybody who can pitch in to help for the website too would be great. A coin is only as strong as its community.


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 30, 2015, 12:23:54 AM
Great work! Anybody who can pitch in to help for the website too would be great. A coin is only as strong as its community.

Thanks quantumgravity,

Yeah So far we've raised a total of 0.05 BTC (https://blockchain.info/address/1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71) / 1.00 BTC. I'm just going to pay him whatever is left in the next day or two. It will knock out just about all of my BTC so help covering this is appreciated and helps me work towards next steps down the road.

Another look at the chart with more data.

http://i.imgur.com/ybtj9SU.png (http://tryswing.com/)

Remember the chart dev said he'd consider adding in more data once paid. I'm thinking about asking to play with volume, net hash rate &or difficulty, network weight, and number of coins moved on the network.

If you're iterested in these additions please help us reach our 1 BTC goal!

1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71 (https://blockchain.info/address/1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71)


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Post by: shapetwist on October 30, 2015, 07:02:43 AM
Great work! Anybody who can pitch in to help for the website too would be great. A coin is only as strong as its community.

Thanks quantumgravity,

Yeah So far we've raised a total of 0.05 BTC (https://blockchain.info/address/1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71) / 1.00 BTC. I'm just going to pay him whatever is left in the next day or two. It will knock out just about all of my BTC so help covering this is appreciated and helps me work towards next steps down the road.

Another look at the chart with more data.

http://i.imgur.com/ybtj9SU.png (http://tryswing.com/)

Remember the chart dev said he'd consider adding in more data once paid. I'm thinking about asking to play with volume, net hash rate &or difficulty, network weight, and number of coins moved on the network.

If you're iterested in these additions please help us reach our 1 BTC goal!

1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71 (https://blockchain.info/address/1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71)

That chart is sexy as hell, and most important: very useful.

I will chip in a little bit too once I have wallet access. I recommend we all do the same. Little by little, more improvements and innovations can be accomplished by the community.


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Post by: quantumgravity on October 30, 2015, 11:11:02 AM
This is one of the best staking coins I've come across. Buy some and stake, people!


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Post by: murderouskirk on October 31, 2015, 04:39:28 AM
I've been doing some testing with wallets that have around 600-700 each. They still will combine the inputs even the the nStakeCombineThreshold is 1000. Does anyone know why that is?



Just guesswork and theory here, but I would assume that it's not advantageous to allow staking inputs to get too small.

I had the inputs at 100 for some and 200 for other wallets.

I still have two running with 600 each and they have weights of 962 and 888. They both have already staked once each, splitting an input of 200.

I also am experimenting with two other wallets with 200 in each. The first has one input of 200. The other has five inputs of 20 an ten inputs of 10. So far I've found that weight climbs faster for larger inputs. I was under the impression that more and smaller inputs gained weight faster, but maybe I was wrong.

Weight does climb faster for larger inputs by the way. We found that out the hard way back in Greed when I tried to launch with 10 seed coins. Didn't go well.   :-X


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on October 31, 2015, 02:46:50 PM
I sent 0.05btc.
I invite other-each payment will be valuable and help in further development.

TxId: d9da0228cd8de8e3c659dc921dce2d651fd2422bafd5b12eb910c822ceb7d8b5


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 01, 2015, 01:27:28 AM
I sent 0.05btc.
I invite other-each payment will be valuable and help in further development.

TxId: d9da0228cd8de8e3c659dc921dce2d651fd2422bafd5b12eb910c822ceb7d8b5

Thanks! Helps a lot.

I'll be paying the dev whatever is left shortly. Going to talk to him about getting more data after the holiday today.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 01, 2015, 01:28:58 AM
As far as supernet radio goes.

I was previously reached out to by them and given an "Open Invite" to come on the show when I wanted. I've reached back out to them and have no heard back yet, so I'll try other methods of contact. I was also asked to go on Crypto After Dark roughly the first week of swing but was too focused on making sure it was all running smoothly. I'll reach out to him as well and see if the offer can be re-opened.

Maybe we can get on the air and get some new interested traders!

Anyone else have ideas for Swing?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 01, 2015, 04:52:43 AM
One of the community members brought up the idea of a MultiPool.

For those that don't know what that is, It would mine other coins (whatever is most profitable), sell them, use the btc to buy swing, then pay the miners in Swing.

Thoughts on this?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 01, 2015, 05:28:31 AM
Multipool is a great idea...

Still hard to believe this one is so cheap to buy really. The supply is crazy low and inflation is controlled really well.
Its a staking machine and has moved right up the list as one of my favourite POS coins. This one is a keeper.

Good luck with the radio tasks, that can only help get the word out there.

Thanks for the input!

I guess I'll start looking into multipools and ways to get one.

I've helped run a regular pool in the past but never a multipool.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on November 01, 2015, 07:00:17 AM
The radio shows would be great for SWING! 

A multipool will only do good things for SWING as well!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: shapetwist on November 01, 2015, 10:56:55 AM
Multipool is a great idea...

Still hard to believe this one is so cheap to buy really. The supply is crazy low and inflation is controlled really well.
Its a staking machine and has moved right up the list as one of my favourite POS coins. This one is a keeper.

Good luck with the radio tasks, that can only help get the word out there.

Agreed with everything. Multipool is smart.

Staking is flawless.

As for the price according to supply... I think it's unbelievable... 5k? Yet again, most of the supply is out of market, due to super staking.

Let's get that word out on the radio. I've sent some kind of press release to a number of news sources too. Would be important if more people do that.

And again, I insist on the translations (russian/chinese/portuguese/spanish) and publications on other forums. Hell, we might as well get our own forum too.

Try to support the work done too: blockexplorer, website, chart; and the on-going projects. This is clearly community oriented, so try to give a bit in exchange for the awesome coin you have here.

Unique coin, fantastic staking, still cheaper to get in, great - small - community. This is going absolutely great. Props!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on November 01, 2015, 12:16:49 PM
Multipool is a great idea...

Still hard to believe this one is so cheap to buy really. The supply is crazy low and inflation is controlled really well.
Its a staking machine and has moved right up the list as one of my favourite POS coins. This one is a keeper.

Good luck with the radio tasks, that can only help get the word out there.

Agreed with everything. Multipool is smart.

Staking is flawless.

As for the price according to supply... I think it's unbelievable... 5k? Yet again, most of the supply is out of market, due to super staking.

Let's get that word out on the radio. I've sent some kind of press release to a number of news sources too. Would be important if more people do that.

And again, I insist on the translations (russian/chinese/portuguese/spanish) and publications on other forums. Hell, we might as well get our own forum too.

Try to support the work done too: blockexplorer, website, chart; and the on-going projects. This is clearly community oriented, so try to give a bit in exchange for the awesome coin you have here.

Unique coin, fantastic staking, still cheaper to get in, great - small - community. This is going absolutely great. Props!

For sure!! I'll be building the SWING multipool this week so we can have it on the website. A mining calculator on the site would be useful as well.

Translations are a great idea! Looking at the node geolocation, there are hardly any in Asia. Getting some exposure on chinese forums would do wonders for the coin. Anybody speak mandarin?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 01, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SF6sLnL.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/660951375162028032)

Great feedback guys. I'm excited about the multipool! Will make for some nice automated buy pressure.

I'll dig through my inbox a little later and post all the translation / other service offers I've gotten so we can consider them as a collective


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 01, 2015, 10:58:40 PM
Here are all the offers I've gotten for swing (on this account, I can check my old GreedDev account if we need more). Please keep in mind a number of them are repeats and the validity is unknown.

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Hey,

What did you have in mind?

I currnetly own a big pumping group and im member of few others. I think i could even interest others into this.

For a deal we make [of course this is not a free service] we will pump price of your coin.
This will give you:
new investors
better price
new attention
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Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 02, 2015, 01:10:26 AM
http://i.imgur.com/CexexWE.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/660986893786566656)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 02, 2015, 01:18:10 AM
Got this DM on twitter today.

Quote
Hi, how's it going?

Poked through the SWING thread and noticed talks of a multipool.

If looking to find one, xpool could be a great option (been mining there myself for a while now).

They actually are already mining SWING in their profit switching rotation.

Just thought I'd pass it on as I respect what you've been doing with SWING.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650952.0


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on November 02, 2015, 04:49:40 AM
Got this DM on twitter today.

Quote
Hi, how's it going?

Poked through the SWING thread and noticed talks of a multipool.

If looking to find one, xpool could be a great option (been mining there myself for a while now).

They actually are already mining SWING in their profit switching rotation.

Just thought I'd pass it on as I respect what you've been doing with SWING.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650952.0

That might be a good option. I think it would be better for SWING to not have to rely on a third party. If we had our own multipool specifically dedicated to SWING and with more mining options on tryswing.com, then I think it would be better for the community in the long run. That's just my opinion though.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 02, 2015, 07:07:54 AM
Got this DM on twitter today.

Quote
Hi, how's it going?

Poked through the SWING thread and noticed talks of a multipool.

If looking to find one, xpool could be a great option (been mining there myself for a while now).

They actually are already mining SWING in their profit switching rotation.

Just thought I'd pass it on as I respect what you've been doing with SWING.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650952.0

That might be a good option. I think it would be better for SWING to not have to rely on a third party. If we had our own multipool specifically dedicated to SWING and with more mining options on tryswing.com, then I think it would be better for the community in the long run. That's just my opinion though.

Yeah, I agree actually.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: Kaladin on November 02, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
It's accumulation time, great coin dev  ;-)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: TheInfidel on November 02, 2015, 09:20:57 PM
Wow what happened to the price?
I haven't been paying attention for a few weeks, just letting them stake.
Did I miss something?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: newstb on November 02, 2015, 09:46:24 PM
Big PoW blocks, multipools and some miners are dumping. Get them cheap now!  ;)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 03, 2015, 12:00:11 AM
Wow what happened to the price?
I haven't been paying attention for a few weeks, just letting them stake.
Did I miss something?

Big PoW blocks, multipools and some miners are dumping. Get them cheap now!  ;)

I don't usually like to give my insight on price as the dev, but since I do watch it all the time I'll give my 2 cents as a trader.

First of all we have to take note of the BTC value spikes going on. This causes panic in alts. People instinctively go "Oh crap BTC is going up and i'm invested in XYZ alt, I need to convert". On top of this is the fact that "anticipation levels" have dropped recently in swing (although rising now) with the release of the chart we were all expecting. That combined with increased rewards causes reason for sell pressure (sometimes irrationally low sell pressure).

While I'm not certain I'm starting to think some traders have realized all this and added light but "heavy enough" sell walls to suppress a little. You'll notice anything selling under 4k-5k gets quickly purchased. So potentially some rather clever accumulation and re-positioning going on.

Considering all this, our "Anticipation levels" are currently increasing again. Community members are working on a multipool that will add buy pressure to the market, I'm looking to get on crypto radio shows to spread the word of Swing (plus potentially some chart upgrades), and POW rewards are closing in on a 90% reduction.

And that pretty much sums up the current state of Swing. Lots of room to make moves here. Very interesting seeing what choices people make.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: TheInfidel on November 03, 2015, 12:09:02 AM
Wow what happened to the price?
I haven't been paying attention for a few weeks, just letting them stake.
Did I miss something?

Big PoW blocks, multipools and some miners are dumping. Get them cheap now!  ;)

I don't usually like to give my insight on price as the dev, but since I do watch it all the time I'll give my 2 cents as a trader.

First of all we have to take note of the BTC value spikes going on. This causes panic in alts. People instinctively go "Oh crap BTC is going up and i'm invested in XYZ alt, I need to convert". On top of this is the fact that "anticipation levels" have dropped in swing with the release of the chart we were all expecting. That combined with increased rewards causes reason for sell pressure (sometimes irrationally low sell pressure).

While I'm not certain I'm starting to think some traders have realized all this and added light but "heavy enough" sell walls to suppress a little. You'll notice anything selling under 4k-5k gets quickly purchased. So potentially some rather clever accumulation and re-positioning going on.

Considering all this, our "Anticipation levels" are currently increasing again. Community members are working on a multipool that will add buy pressure to the market, I'm looking to get on crypto radio shows to spread the word of Swing (plus potentially some chart upgrades), and POW rewards are closing in on a 90% reduction.

And that pretty much sums up the current state of Swing. Lots of room to make moves here. Very interesting seeing what choices people make.

I have been looking at the new charts since my last post, and I guess your explanation is sound.
BTW great work as always.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 03, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
Wow what happened to the price?
I haven't been paying attention for a few weeks, just letting them stake.
Did I miss something?

Big PoW blocks, multipools and some miners are dumping. Get them cheap now!  ;)

I don't usually like to give my insight on price as the dev, but since I do watch it all the time I'll give my 2 cents as a trader.

First of all we have to take note of the BTC value spikes going on. This causes panic in alts. People instinctively go "Oh crap BTC is going up and i'm invested in XYZ alt, I need to convert". On top of this is the fact that "anticipation levels" have dropped in swing with the release of the chart we were all expecting. That combined with increased rewards causes reason for sell pressure (sometimes irrationally low sell pressure).

While I'm not certain I'm starting to think some traders have realized all this and added light but "heavy enough" sell walls to suppress a little. You'll notice anything selling under 4k-5k gets quickly purchased. So potentially some rather clever accumulation and re-positioning going on.

Considering all this, our "Anticipation levels" are currently increasing again. Community members are working on a multipool that will add buy pressure to the market, I'm looking to get on crypto radio shows to spread the word of Swing (plus potentially some chart upgrades), and POW rewards are closing in on a 90% reduction.

And that pretty much sums up the current state of Swing. Lots of room to make moves here. Very interesting seeing what choices people make.

I have been looking at the new charts since my last post, and I guess your explanation is sound.
BTW great work as always.


Glad to hear people are using it. Thanks for the feedback!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 03, 2015, 05:32:45 PM
Getting slow responses from the radio shows in my slack group so I've started emailing them.

I'm hoping to get on the air around the time of the 90% POW reward drop. Ideally before that happens.

Any progress on the multipool?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: quantumgravity on November 03, 2015, 06:13:29 PM
Getting slow responses from the radio shows in my slack group so I've started emailing them.

I'm hoping to get on the air around the time of the 90% POW reward drop. Ideally before that happens.

Any progress on the multipool?

I will start building the multipool this afternoon and update the thread with my progress as I work my way through it.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 03, 2015, 07:13:19 PM
Getting slow responses from the radio shows in my slack group so I've started emailing them.

I'm hoping to get on the air around the time of the 90% POW reward drop. Ideally before that happens.

Any progress on the multipool?

I will start building the multipool this afternoon and update the thread with my progress as I work my way through it.

Fantastic, thanks!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 04, 2015, 02:17:38 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Y27z0BX.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/661728708911304704)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 04, 2015, 04:20:19 AM
Here's an idea.

Typically in a multipool you mine other coins (whatever is most profitable), sell them for BTC, use that BTC to buy you focal currency (Swing), then distribute to miners.

In doing this we get some buy pressure added to the market if some miners decide to switch. (Also miners get to mine coins with no POW)

But since we are not 100% POS and can mine POW still (and have a fair number of POW miners), and miners will favor the pool type that is most profitable, what if we somehow add Swing (direct w/ no conversion) into the profitability selection?

We'd then have a pool that would be able to determine if it was more profitable (in Swing) to mine swing directly, or switch to other alts and convert while rewards are low (also adding buy pressure to the market).

This would of course require custom code, but it's food for thought.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 04, 2015, 08:05:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/naK2bE8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/661997276236148736)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 04, 2015, 09:05:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6O1ut5W.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/662012567922089988)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: BluRPie on November 04, 2015, 09:57:10 PM
Retweeted both..

although its a very nice time to get some cheap SWING!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 04, 2015, 10:03:28 PM
Retweeted both..

although its a very nice time to get some cheap SWING!

Thanks!

Certainly is.. Can't get it much cheaper..

(I only wish I had more BTC to buy low with haha)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: TheInfidel on November 04, 2015, 10:21:15 PM
I've put what little BTC I have left on the order books, hoping for more dumping.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 05, 2015, 07:08:03 AM
http://i.imgur.com/UkvS8st.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/662163548898988033)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 05, 2015, 11:28:27 PM
Swing price closing in on 10,000 sats again. Hope you guys took advantage of the price dip.

http://i.imgur.com/pGcJ46R.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/662414877592416260)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on November 06, 2015, 10:02:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/naK2bE8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/661997276236148736)

Just a reminder that I will be live on Supernet Radio tomorrow to talk about swing!


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Post by: fitinplace on November 07, 2015, 06:04:11 AM
what is the best way to coin control these coins any tips?


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Post by: HashStatz on November 08, 2015, 02:36:45 AM
http://i.imgur.com/naK2bE8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/661997276236148736)

Just a reminder that I will be live on Supernet Radio tomorrow to talk about swing!

I didn't get a chance to tune in. How did the show go murderouskirk?


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 08, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/naK2bE8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/661997276236148736)

Just a reminder that I will be live on Supernet Radio tomorrow to talk about swing!

I didn't get a chance to tune in. How did the show go murderouskirk?

I think it went pretty well actually. We talked about Swing, Crypto Community, the current state of the altcoin scene and more.

For those that want to give it a listen over a cup of coffee:

https://soundcloud.com/supernetradio/swingcoin

http://i.imgur.com/OTnMNTM.jpg (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/663254185991802881)


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Post by: nikkers on November 08, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/naK2bE8.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/661997276236148736)

Just a reminder that I will be live on Supernet Radio tomorrow to talk about swing!

I didn't get a chance to tune in. How did the show go murderouskirk?

I think it went pretty well actually. We talked about Swing, Crypto Community, the current state of the altcoin scene and more.

For those that want to give it a listen over a cup of coffee:

https://soundcloud.com/supernetradio/swingcoin

http://i.imgur.com/OTnMNTM.jpg (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/663254185991802881)

Just had a listen over coffee and a smoke, very good stuff, i dont necessarily agree with some of the things the host mentioned, such as mining from wallet etc, i think

your right about asics vastly overpowering home miners, so it's a bit pointless imo.

I personally went from home mining to renting last year sometime, and have never looked back.

It's good to hold a coin from one of the few good devs around these days ;)


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Post by: VentureC on November 08, 2015, 11:28:29 PM
Swing is a great coin, I'm really enjoying its unique concept.

A feature I would REALLY LOVE to see in a future wallet upgrade is that the main window can be resized and put to full screen. Another great feature would be if we could clear the orphans in the list.

Dev, pretty please?  ;D


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 09, 2015, 12:12:05 AM
what is the best way to coin control these coins any tips?

Actually a little curious about that myself.
I sent them to my wallet in blocks of 1000 and haven't done anything since, perhaps that is not ideal.


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Post by: Azkhabar on November 09, 2015, 12:25:48 AM
Swing is a great coin, I'm really enjoying its unique concept.

A feature I would REALLY LOVE to see in a future wallet upgrade is that the main window can be resized and put to full screen. Another great feature would be if we could clear the orphans in the list.

Dev, pretty please?  ;D

+1

The 'clear orphans' feature would be really great as I get many of them lately.......


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Post by: coinhugger on November 09, 2015, 12:29:57 AM
Swing is a great coin, I'm really enjoying its unique concept.

A feature I would REALLY LOVE to see in a future wallet upgrade is that the main window can be resized and put to full screen. Another great feature would be if we could clear the orphans in the list.

Dev, pretty please?  ;D

+1

The 'clear orphans' feature would be really great as I get many of them lately.......

I concur. It drives me nuts that I can't maximize the wallet screen. Also been getting a lot of orphans lately.



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Post by: murderouskirk on November 10, 2015, 09:37:24 AM
what is the best way to coin control these coins any tips?

Here's all the discussion we've had so far on the topic. Personally I just put it in the wallet in bulk and let it split itself up.

I've been experimenting with different input amounts to try and increase my relative weight. I've been trying to find an equilibrium between magnitude of inputs and size of inputs. I think, it may be more profitable to stake with multiple wallet when you have more than a few thousand swing. This is because of the nStakeCombineThreshold at "1000 * COIN." I think if it were amended, then there would be a reduced incentive for someone to run multiple wallets. This idea I have is under the assumption that running multiple wallets does not give someone an unfair advantage to receive staked rewards. If running multiple wallets through VMs does constitute an unfair advantage, then perhaps an amendment of the combine threshold would eliminate or even just reduced the incentive to do so. Then again multiple wallets would make the network stronger, as long as the owner's security is top notch.

 ???



This is actually some really interesting questioning and insight thank you for posting and digging into it a little. This is exactly the kind of discussion we need to work towards improving the core. To be honest I have not dug into that portion of the code very deeply. However, I have been under the impression that coins split into two inputs when they stake not combine. Are you under the impression that they recombine when you have more than 1k? Or am I completely mistaken here?

Thanks for the discussion!  :)



Yes, if you have thousands of coins in the wallet, then they will split and then recombine depending on the number of inputs your wallet has. If you have a high number of inputs, then the wallet will recombine them in chunks of 1000 coins, and then proceed to split into two inputs from there.

Here are some examples:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/tx.dws?82948.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?50666.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?50657.htm

If you were inclined to change the nStakeCombineThreshold in a future wallet release, it could be found at the top of the wallet.cpp file.

I think the problem with such a low amount of coins to combine can be disadvantageous to those with more than one thousand coins in their wallet because the transactions that combine your inputs destroys over 1000 stake weight and te new weight climbs more slowly. On the other hand, it gives an advantage to those with lower amounts of coins because they can achieve a closer to full stake weight with their smaller inputs, and they wan also create as many inputs as the'd like.

Although, the probability that you will hit a staked block increases with input size, so that may be the reason for the slower accumulation of weight in relation to input size.

I think if the nStakeCombineThreshold were increased to somewhere between 2500-5000 in a future release, then it would be more fair to those with medium size wallets, considering the low supply of coins. Once the supply of Swing is in the multimillions, it may make sense to adjust it down. jmho



I've been doing some testing with wallets that have around 600-700 each. They still will combine the inputs even the the nStakeCombineThreshold is 1000. Does anyone know why that is?



Just guesswork and theory here, but I would assume that it's not advantageous to allow staking inputs to get too small.

I had the inputs at 100 for some and 200 for other wallets.

I still have two running with 600 each and they have weights of 962 and 888. They both have already staked once each, splitting an input of 200.

I also am experimenting with two other wallets with 200 in each. The first has one input of 200. The other has five inputs of 20 an ten inputs of 10. So far I've found that weight climbs faster for larger inputs. I was under the impression that more and smaller inputs gained weight faster, but maybe I was wrong.

Weight does climb faster for larger inputs by the way. We found that out the hard way back in Greed when I tried to launch with 10 seed coins. Didn't go well.   :-X


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 10, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
Swing is a great coin, I'm really enjoying its unique concept.

A feature I would REALLY LOVE to see in a future wallet upgrade is that the main window can be resized and put to full screen. Another great feature would be if we could clear the orphans in the list.

Dev, pretty please?  ;D

+1

The 'clear orphans' feature would be really great as I get many of them lately.......

I concur. It drives me nuts that I can't maximize the wallet screen. Also been getting a lot of orphans lately.



Thanks for the input guys!

I'm happy to see the community chatting about what needs to be done.

The couple posts and some of the discussion from the radio show got me thinking about communication and project management.

We need a good clean way for us to collaborate and progress as a whole. I don't have the perfect solution to this, but I decided to start organizing things a little.

This page tracks what we are / want / need to do. It is open for comments, and anyone who asks will be given access to add new "cards".
https://trello.com/b/RTj6sMTd/swingcoin

Concerning maximizing the wallet:
I actually hadn't realized this till you guys mentioned it. Thanks for doing so. We will have to poke around the code and see how to solve this. I can try to do so in my spare time but anyone with knowledge of the solution or skills to figure it out would help things along significantly by posting. We should be able to push a minor optional wallet alternative with minor updates like that.

Concerning Orphans:
While I like the idea of an option to clear out orphans in the list, I think it might be more of a challenge that initially expected for such a small feature. The real concern here isn't the history displaying orphans, it's the fact that there are orphans to begin with. Is the orphan rate excessive witch any of you? Or just occasional? We have spoken lightly as a community about a connectivity patch in the past. In short, some people experience out of sync issues when reconnecting to the network. We dug into this and found the cause to be rounding errors. It's reasonable to assume the cause for some orphans could be the same problem. In short the fix for this requires doing the reward math a little differently (with the same outcome) and versioning up the core code. Doing this is an intentional fork, and comes with strain on the network and stress for all of us. Given the minor nature of the issues and the relative stability of the blockchain I've opted to delay this patch till we started talking about additional core upgrades to push in bulk. I think now is a good time to bring this back up and start discussing it as a group.

Again, thanks for the feedback everyone.

http://i.imgur.com/tHp2Kkl.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/664017856338640896)


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Post by: BluRPie on November 10, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
A multipool that pays in SWING would be very nice. Good radio show btw.

lovely low prices :)


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Post by: zazarb on November 10, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
maybe stupid question, or staked reward depending for OS and pc system performance? it seems to me after I launch swing wallet in old laptop with Windows xp rewards quantity per day decrease.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 11, 2015, 02:20:44 AM
I've noticed some data errors in the chart on TrySwing.com (on my end at least). Reaching out to the dev to take a look. Please note the network is operating as expected, it's the chart that is potentially a little off at the moment.

maybe stupid question, or staked reward depending for OS and pc system performance? it seems to me after I launch swing wallet in old laptop with Windows xp rewards quantity per day decrease.

Not a stupid question. I suppose it's a possibility but I do not know for sure. I could only make guesses. Is it a significant change? You also need to factor in your weight and net weight. If you sent your coins over the blockchain rather than file transfer that would have destroyed your weight. If everyone started staking again that would make it harder to break blocks too.

A multipool that pays in SWING would be very nice. Good radio show btw.

lovely low prices :)

So i've been digging into this some. I know One community member spoke about trying to make one. I've been looking into guides and it seems like a bit of a challenge.

Sometimes the simple solution is the best.

CoinKing.io does profit switching and lets you choose which coin you want to be paid out in. It seems you don't even need an account anymore, (unless you want extra stats) you just point your miners and include your payout adddress.

They have added Swing as a mining option in their rotation, meaning they are currently mining Swing when it gets profitable and selling it off for other coins automatically.

However, they do not currently offer Swing payouts..

If they did, we could point our miners at CoinKing dominantly, and in theory since Swing is in the rotation it will switch between mining swing directly or other alts and converting into swing. This would add some nice Buy pressure to the market (instead of just sell pressure) and increase the profitability of miners.

The automated buys and sells would create some nice default movement in the markets for traders to play with as well.

I think we should push for this as a community. It's the quick, easy, and reputable solution.

http://i.imgur.com/wwrUqmN.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/664263826209030144)


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Post by: nikkers on November 11, 2015, 02:30:58 AM
not sure if you've heard of these guys http://steakcloud.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1178345.0

but they have added a few coins to multipool recently, Steps being one example, and they also pay out in the currency of your choice......so they would mine other stuff

with various algo's etc and sell those coins and buy swing to use for payouts. maybe worth a look into ;)


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 11, 2015, 03:41:29 AM
not sure if you've heard of these guys http://steakcloud.com/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1178345.0

but they have added a few coins to multipool recently, Steps being one example, and they also pay out in the currency of your choice......so they would mine other stuff

with various algo's etc and sell those coins and buy swing to use for payouts. maybe worth a look into ;)

Looks solid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EZecupoig8

I sent them a request

Quote
Hello,

Developer of Swing here. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164721.0)

We're looking for a multipool that will let us auto-convert to swing. Ideally keeping the option to mine swing directly in case it's more profitable at the time. (That way Swing miners can switch to primarily mining on the multipool)

We are currently pushing for CoinKing to do this, they are mining it but don't offer auto conversion to swing. One of our community members suggested SteakCloud and it seems to be a solid solution too.

It's my expectation that whoever provides this first will become the primary swing pool from this point on.

Thanks for your time!

http://i.imgur.com/M7eSBSX.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/664288114345668608)


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Post by: fitinplace on November 11, 2015, 09:00:37 AM
SWING is Great!  I have a relationship with the SWING block!  Every 1000 SWING blocks, I remember my highest stake!  Checking block explorer/in wallet block count is like prime time entertainment. 

I'd be nice to have a wallet chat where we can compare coin age, save development ideas in a community brainstorm or chat with others on wallet collectively.


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Post by: zazarb on November 11, 2015, 09:12:15 AM
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Quote from: zazarb on Today at 12:47:59 AM
maybe stupid question, or staked reward depending for OS and pc system performance? it seems to me after I launch swing wallet in old laptop with Windows xp rewards quantity per day decrease.

Not a stupid question. I suppose it's a possibility but I do not know for sure. I could only make guesses. Is it a significant change? You also need to factor in your weight and net weight. If you sent your coins over the blockchain rather than file transfer that would have destroyed your weight. If everyone started staking again that would make it harder to break blocks too.
I did not do for estimating, I get above the 10 staked reward per day, and not make any transaction in this period and total swing quantity just increase.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 11, 2015, 07:54:38 PM
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Quote from: zazarb on Today at 12:47:59 AM
maybe stupid question, or staked reward depending for OS and pc system performance? it seems to me after I launch swing wallet in old laptop with Windows xp rewards quantity per day decrease.

Not a stupid question. I suppose it's a possibility but I do not know for sure. I could only make guesses. Is it a significant change? You also need to factor in your weight and net weight. If you sent your coins over the blockchain rather than file transfer that would have destroyed your weight. If everyone started staking again that would make it harder to break blocks too.
I did not do for estimating, I get above the 10 staked reward per day, and not make any transaction in this period and total swing quantity just increase.

Are you saying your rewards increased after you moved them to a new platform? Or decreased?

If increased that's normal. It takes a little time for weight to get rolling.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 11, 2015, 08:30:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/M7eSBSX.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/664288114345668608)

If you want to see this happen do me a favor and help push for it! Re-tweets, favorites, comments, emails, and new tweets all help!


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Post by: zazarb on November 11, 2015, 08:37:33 PM
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Quote from: zazarb on Today at 12:47:59 AM
maybe stupid question, or staked reward depending for OS and pc system performance? it seems to me after I launch swing wallet in old laptop with Windows xp rewards quantity per day decrease.

Not a stupid question. I suppose it's a possibility but I do not know for sure. I could only make guesses. Is it a significant change? You also need to factor in your weight and net weight. If you sent your coins over the blockchain rather than file transfer that would have destroyed your weight. If everyone started staking again that would make it harder to break blocks too.
I did not do for estimating, I get above the 10 staked reward per day, and not make any transaction in this period and total swing quantity just increase.

Are you saying your rewards increased after you moved them to a new platform? Or decreased?

If increased that's normal. It takes a little time for weight to get rolling.
I not moved to new platform, I have same wallet in two pc, (last month running in w7 and now  around week run in xp) my swing split in lot blocks(different address) and I not make any change during last month, I think that if amount rise ~40% that staking should more often(of course depending of net weight), after change platform  in in first 2-4 day I got  reward 4-6 time per day again 8-14 before.


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Post by: sparksi on November 12, 2015, 03:12:25 PM
Could someone post newest nodes? I have currently only one connection.  :o


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 12, 2015, 11:50:39 PM
Could someone post newest nodes? I have currently only one connection.  :o

Sounds like you're connected to the seed node and should populate more connections soon after. Did you get more yet?


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Post by: sparksi on November 13, 2015, 03:25:32 PM
Could someone post newest nodes? I have currently only one connection.  :o

Sounds like you're connected to the seed node and should populate more connections soon after. Did you get more yet?

Nope. I've had my wallet on for +8 hours now.


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Post by: nikkers on November 13, 2015, 03:52:06 PM
Could someone post newest nodes? I have currently only one connection.  :o

46.105.39.103
74.120.220.54
195.154.223.134
104.128.237.158
59.100.29.2
104.236.29.198
192.95.29.153
198.50.217.13
78.0.60.170
54.209.49.228


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Post by: sparksi on November 13, 2015, 04:22:18 PM
Could someone post newest nodes? I have currently only one connection.  :o

46.105.39.103
74.120.220.54
195.154.223.134
104.128.237.158
59.100.29.2
104.236.29.198
192.95.29.153
198.50.217.13
78.0.60.170
54.209.49.228

Thank you kind Sir! Now I have more connections. :)


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 13, 2015, 10:16:31 PM
So it's either the miners dumping 24/7 or the stakers. I know which one is more likely... This coin might benefit from a change in algo. SHA256 is so primitive and slow anyway. Hard fork it to a CPU or GPU algo!


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 13, 2015, 10:21:40 PM
I also don't know who is to blame for the continuous selling but there is a lot of it.


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 13, 2015, 10:29:54 PM
I also don't know who is to blame for the continuous selling but there is a lot of it.

People mining with old SHA miners I would bet.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 13, 2015, 11:50:02 PM
If we can get automatic conversion to Swing the selling will be alleviated by quite a bit I would think.

An algo change is a big deal. I decided to stay with SHA256 because there are many more miners using it and that makes them more likely to try mining Swing (rather than some obscure algo that not many know how to even use).

Good discussion topic though.

I just sent another email to CoinKing. Hoping to hear back from one of them soon.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 14, 2015, 12:11:57 AM
Could someone post newest nodes? I have currently only one connection.  :o

46.105.39.103
74.120.220.54
195.154.223.134
104.128.237.158
59.100.29.2
104.236.29.198
192.95.29.153
198.50.217.13
78.0.60.170
54.209.49.228

Thank you kind Sir! Now I have more connections. :)

Thanks Nikkers  :)


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 14, 2015, 01:55:26 AM
If we can get automatic conversion to Swing the selling will be alleviated by quite a bit I would think.

An algo change is a big deal. I decided to stay with SHA256 because there are many more miners using it and that makes them more likely to try mining Swing (rather than some obscure algo that not many know how to even use).

Good discussion topic though.

I just sent another email to CoinKing. Hoping to hear back from one of them soon.

Has there been a request made to be added to Steakcloud also?
I think you are right about that most of the sell pressure will be alleviated with automatic conversion.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 14, 2015, 02:16:32 AM
If we can get automatic conversion to Swing the selling will be alleviated by quite a bit I would think.

An algo change is a big deal. I decided to stay with SHA256 because there are many more miners using it and that makes them more likely to try mining Swing (rather than some obscure algo that not many know how to even use).

Good discussion topic though.

I just sent another email to CoinKing. Hoping to hear back from one of them soon.

Has there been a request made to be added to Steakcloud also?
I think you are right about that most of the sell pressure will be alleviated with automatic conversion.


Yup. I've emailed and tweeted both of them.

https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/664288114345668608

Followup pressure from the community will only help.


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Post by: VentureC on November 14, 2015, 09:08:23 PM
hello guys, anybody understand why the swing price is dropping so fast lately?  I remember buying at 8300 sats and now I see it's below 2000. Even staking can't compensate for a devaluation like that. 

Why are people dumping the coin so cheap?



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Post by: gregofdoom on November 14, 2015, 10:00:31 PM
hello guys, anybody understand why the swing price is dropping so fast lately?  I remember buying at 8300 sats and now I see it's below 2000. Even staking can't compensate for a devaluation like that. 

Why are people dumping the coin so cheap?



These are miners, for them it's all a quick profit.
Do not underestimate the potential of this coin.


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Post by: VentureC on November 15, 2015, 06:13:13 AM
hello guys, anybody understand why the swing price is dropping so fast lately?  I remember buying at 8300 sats and now I see it's below 2000. Even staking can't compensate for a devaluation like that. 

Why are people dumping the coin so cheap?



These are miners, for them it's all a quick profit.
Do not underestimate the potential of this coin.

Yeah, I'm firmly holding on to my Swing coins, regardless what happens.  Anyway, hopefully the price will recover at some point.



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Post by: HashStatz on November 15, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
RT Please https://twitter.com/HashStatz/status/665944868015869952


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 15, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
So https://twitter.com/steakcloud Just retweeted:

http://i.imgur.com/xUNN0PI.png (http://i.imgur.com/xUNN0PI.png)

And announced:

http://i.imgur.com/HjYy192.png (https://twitter.com/steakcloud/status/665996255391318016)


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 15, 2015, 10:25:54 PM
Yes, but is SWING confirmed to be one of them?


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 16, 2015, 08:39:28 AM
Yes, but is SWING confirmed to be one of them?

Not yet, but he is certainly giving us room to speculate.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 17, 2015, 08:10:58 PM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

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Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 17, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

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Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.

Well even though it's not immediate its still good news, and still time to maybe pick up a dump or two more.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 17, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

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Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.

Well even though it's not immediate its still good news, and still time to maybe pick up a dump or two more.

Yup. It's a step in the right direction.

Also, still no word from CoinKing. I'll try additional methods of contact.


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 17, 2015, 08:19:07 PM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

Quote
Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.

Well even though it's not immediate its still good news, and still time to maybe pick up a dump or two more.

Yup. It's a step in the right direction.

Also, still no word from CoinKing. I'll try additional methods of contact.

BTW I made a payment today with coinpayments, and I noticed it's not one of the supported currencies. Would that not be an idea?


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 19, 2015, 02:36:22 AM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

Quote
Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.

Well even though it's not immediate its still good news, and still time to maybe pick up a dump or two more.

Yup. It's a step in the right direction.

Also, still no word from CoinKing. I'll try additional methods of contact.

BTW I made a payment today with coinpayments, and I noticed it's not one of the supported currencies. Would that not be an idea?

I thought about this a while after you posted.

My first thought was, why not cant hurt right?

But then I thought about it more. What does coin payments really do?

Unless I'm mistaken, they accept their supported alts and convert them so people can make purchases right?

So, all it does is add more automated sell pressure if people use the service.

I suppose the idea is that with added adoption and usability like that it would increase buy pressure from people using the coin... but... let's be real here.. odds are people wont be buying up alts to spend them unless they are getting a heck of a deal.

If you guys think this will do good for the coin we can request it, but those are my initial thoughts. I'll go with what the general consensus seems to be.

On a side note..

I'll be trying to contact CoinKing again tonight. So far I've emailed them and tweeted at them. I'll send some more tweets, maybe another email, and see if I can PM them on bitcointalk or something. If you guys can find additional methods of contact it will help.

We'll get our multipool soon enough! Eventually when it's not profitable to mine Swing during low rewards miners will be automatically buying up swing instead of mining.

I think that's the point where things will pick up pace.


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 19, 2015, 02:39:34 AM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

Quote
Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.

Well even though it's not immediate its still good news, and still time to maybe pick up a dump or two more.

Yup. It's a step in the right direction.

Also, still no word from CoinKing. I'll try additional methods of contact.

BTW I made a payment today with coinpayments, and I noticed it's not one of the supported currencies. Would that not be an idea?

I thought about this a while after you posted.

My first thought was, why not cant hurt right?

But then I thought about it more. What does coin payments really do?

Unless I'm mistaken, they accept their supported alts and convert them so people can make purchases right?

So, all it does is add more automated sell pressure if people use the service.

I suppose the idea is that with added adoption and usability like that it would increase buy pressure from people using the coin... but... let's be real here.. odds are people wont be buying up alts to spend them unless they are getting a heck of a deal.

If you guys think this will do good for the coin we can request it, but those are my initial thoughts. I'll go with what the general consensus seems to be.

On a side note..

I'll be trying to contact CoinKing again tonight. So far I've emailed them and tweeted at them. I'll send some more tweets, maybe another email, and see if I can PM them on bitcointalk or something. If you guys can find additional methods of contact it will help.

We'll get our multipool soon enough! Eventually when it's not profitable to mine Swing during low rewards miners will be automatically buying up swing instead of mining.

I think that's the point where things will pick up pace.

I am excited for the future of Swing. Lots of good things coming!


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 19, 2015, 07:32:53 AM
Alright I heard back from steakcloud. He asked for more information and told me:

Quote
Once reviewed swing will be added to the waiting list and can take anywhere from 1 week to a moth to be added as a supported coin.

Well even though it's not immediate its still good news, and still time to maybe pick up a dump or two more.

Yup. It's a step in the right direction.

Also, still no word from CoinKing. I'll try additional methods of contact.

BTW I made a payment today with coinpayments, and I noticed it's not one of the supported currencies. Would that not be an idea?

I thought about this a while after you posted.

My first thought was, why not cant hurt right?

But then I thought about it more. What does coin payments really do?

Unless I'm mistaken, they accept their supported alts and convert them so people can make purchases right?

So, all it does is add more automated sell pressure if people use the service.

I suppose the idea is that with added adoption and usability like that it would increase buy pressure from people using the coin... but... let's be real here.. odds are people wont be buying up alts to spend them unless they are getting a heck of a deal.

If you guys think this will do good for the coin we can request it, but those are my initial thoughts. I'll go with what the general consensus seems to be.

On a side note..

I'll be trying to contact CoinKing again tonight. So far I've emailed them and tweeted at them. I'll send some more tweets, maybe another email, and see if I can PM them on bitcointalk or something. If you guys can find additional methods of contact it will help.

We'll get our multipool soon enough! Eventually when it's not profitable to mine Swing during low rewards miners will be automatically buying up swing instead of mining.

I think that's the point where things will pick up pace.

When you look at it that way, you are most probably right about coinpayments simply increasing sell pressure.


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Post by: HiggsBosunBlues on November 19, 2015, 09:14:15 AM
The sell pressure on this coin is just ridiculous. I giggle-snort as I top up daily from my stakes and cheap buys.

Why is it that people cannot realize an obviously good thing and keep collecting daily pocket change on this coin.
 
This coin is so undervalued its not funny. The coin specs, low supply and the dev's willingness to work since launch suggest it should be trading miles above where it is now but it keeps being slow dumped by miners and stakers who do not have a clue what they are selling for peanuts. Tripping over dollars to pick up pennies.

These people will all look back at their sell history one day and bleed.  Me, I'll keep accumulating until its 10x the current price at an absolute minimum before I sell off even a fraction of my holdings.







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Post by: murderouskirk on November 19, 2015, 09:59:23 AM
The sell pressure on this coin is just ridiculous. I giggle-snort as I top up daily from my stakes and cheap buys.

Why is it that people cannot realize an obviously good thing and keep collecting daily pocket change on this coin.
 
This coin is so undervalued its not funny. The coin specs, low supply and the dev's willingness to work since launch suggest it should be trading miles above where it is now but it keeps being slow dumped by miners and stakers who do not have a clue what they are selling for peanuts. Tripping over dollars to pick up pennies.

These people will all look back at their sell history one day and bleed.  Me, I'll keep accumulating until its 10x the current price at an absolute minimum before I sell off even a fraction of my holdings.


I try not to comment on this type of thing, but it really is a bit amusing you're right.

For some perspective
Current Supply: 445,537 SWING
Last traded price: 2,500 Satoshis
Market Cap @ last price: 11.11 BTC (worth of entire supply)
Cost to get to     10,000 Sats: 0.8155 BTC
Cost to get to   116,700 Sats: 6.85 BTC (4,568% price increase from last trade)

Small market cap / volume coins are funny like this. Getting miners auto converting to Swing soon will be a fun ride at this rate.


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Post by: HiggsBosunBlues on November 19, 2015, 10:12:23 AM
Getting miners auto converting to Swing soon will be a fun ride at this rate.

Take your time, I'm still feeding  ;D


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 19, 2015, 01:58:04 PM
I sent a message a C-Cex to get Swing on their exchange today.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 19, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
Hi,

We've added SWING to our new multipool: www.zpool.ca

Cheers!


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 20, 2015, 05:31:00 AM
Hi,

We've added SWING to our new multipool: www.zpool.ca

Cheers!

Great thanks! Do you support automated conversion to Swing? Or just selling swing for btc?

Either way, thanks for helping us get more supporting infrastructure. The more miner outlets the better.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 20, 2015, 12:22:09 PM
Hi,

We've added SWING to our new multipool: www.zpool.ca

Cheers!

Great thanks! Do you support automated conversion to Swing? Or just selling swing for btc?

Either way, thanks for helping us get more supporting infrastructure. The more miner outlets the better.

You can mine and get paid in swing too but that's still had only limited testing but has been working for other coins.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 20, 2015, 02:18:01 PM
Hi,

We've added SWING to our new multipool: www.zpool.ca

Cheers!

Great thanks! Do you support automated conversion to Swing? Or just selling swing for btc?

Either way, thanks for helping us get more supporting infrastructure. The more miner outlets the better.

You can mine and get paid in swing too but that's still had only limited testing but has been working for other coins.

Excellent, thanks!   :)

Quote
-o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:PORT -u SWING_WALLET_ADDRESS -p xx

Payouts are made automatically every 2H for all balances above 0.001, or 0.0001 on Sunday.
There is an initial delay before the first payout as coins you mine need to mature then, exchange and get returned to zpool, please wait at least 24 hours before asking for support.

http://i.imgur.com/UqD8XlL.png (http://www.zpool.ca/)


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Post by: crackfoo on November 20, 2015, 04:41:33 PM
Thanks!

BTW, I've noticed that SWING deposits to bittrex seemed to have stopped working...

Can anyone else confirm/deny?


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 20, 2015, 05:00:38 PM
Thanks!

BTW, I've noticed that SWING deposits to bittrex seemed to have stopped working...

Can anyone else confirm/deny?

I've had deposits take much longer than they should in the past in a few coins including Swing. I think it's something to do with their deposit platform. Bittrex isn't showing any warnings about the coin being offline so I'd just give it a little more time. If someone wants to test and report back it can only help.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 20, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Thanks!

BTW, I've noticed that SWING deposits to bittrex seemed to have stopped working...

Can anyone else confirm/deny?

I've had deposits take much longer than they should in the past in a few coins including Swing. I think it's something to do with their deposit platform. Bittrex isn't showing any warnings about the coin being offline so I'd just give it a little more time. If someone wants to test and report back it can only help.

I've logged a ticket. Missing deposits for the past 15 hours.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 20, 2015, 06:41:24 PM
Thanks!

BTW, I've noticed that SWING deposits to bittrex seemed to have stopped working...

Can anyone else confirm/deny?

I've had deposits take much longer than they should in the past in a few coins including Swing. I think it's something to do with their deposit platform. Bittrex isn't showing any warnings about the coin being offline so I'd just give it a little more time. If someone wants to test and report back it can only help.

I've logged a ticket. Missing deposits for the past 15 hours.

bleh, forked!


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 20, 2015, 11:17:09 PM
I submitted a ticket as well to ask about it.

Could be their wallet just fell out of sync and payments are queued but not being processed. Whatever it is we will get it sorted when we hear from Bittrex.

I would caution people to do test deposits/withdraws and wait for them to clear before making major transactions.

Thanks for the heads up crackfoo, sorry for the inconvenience.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 21, 2015, 12:19:02 AM
One of my wallets was forked. I could have sworn I look at their status page and saw we were on the same block but I must have been looking at a different wallet.

Ah well.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 21, 2015, 12:54:38 AM
One of my wallets was forked. I could have sworn I look at their status page and saw we were on the same block but I must have been looking at a different wallet.

Ah well.

I did a test withdraw and it went through. It didn't hit quickly so I re-downloaded the chain and got it. I may have just been impatient I'm not sure.

To be clear for debugging/clarity, did your wallet fall out of sync, or continue to progress on a side chain out of sync from the seed node/bittrex?

Also, are your coins where you want them now?


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Post by: shapetwist on November 21, 2015, 12:59:33 AM
One of my wallets was forked. I could have sworn I look at their status page and saw we were on the same block but I must have been looking at a different wallet.

Ah well.

I did a test withdraw and it went through. It didn't hit quickly so I re-downloaded the chain and got it. I may have just been impatient I'm not sure.

To be clear for debugging/clarity, did your wallet fall out of sync, or continue to progress on a side chain our of sync from the seed node/bittrex?

Also, are your coins where you want them now?

Any update on the connectivity/chain issues that keep us getting to re-download it?


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Post by: crackfoo on November 22, 2015, 02:26:49 PM
One of my wallets was forked. I could have sworn I look at their status page and saw we were on the same block but I must have been looking at a different wallet.

Ah well.

I did a test withdraw and it went through. It didn't hit quickly so I re-downloaded the chain and got it. I may have just been impatient I'm not sure.

To be clear for debugging/clarity, did your wallet fall out of sync, or continue to progress on a side chain our of sync from the seed node/bittrex?

Also, are your coins where you want them now?

Any update on the connectivity/chain issues that keep us getting to re-download it?

one of my wallet again caught up in a fork. Has many peers connected as well so seems there are quite a few others that are on the fork too.

InvalidChainFound: invalid block=fee06687ea6c3cb6e518  height=76884  trust=95641277799943567833  blocktrust=92578545  date=11/22/15 14:26:10
InvalidChainFound:  current best=259a9975c8ae3305320a  height=76820  trust=95587305001177358921  blocktrust=159339678  date=11/22/15 12:40:14


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Post by: BluRPie on November 22, 2015, 03:10:53 PM
No Issues here..

btw, no issues on zpool.ca either. its mining like a charm, and pays out in SWING.. very nice work xpool/zpool!


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 22, 2015, 10:50:56 PM
Any update on the connectivity/chain issues that keep us getting to re-download it?

This is the last we spoke of it. Do you get this issue very frequently? It's not frequent for me and nobody has told me it's severe so it's been categorized as minor up to this point.


This page tracks what we are / want / need to do. It is open for comments, and anyone who asks will be given access to add new "cards".
https://trello.com/b/RTj6sMTd/swingcoin

We have spoken lightly as a community about a connectivity patch in the past. In short, some people experience out of sync issues when reconnecting to the network. We dug into this and found the cause to be rounding errors. It's reasonable to assume the cause for some orphans could be the same problem. In short the fix for this requires doing the reward math a little differently (with the same outcome) and versioning up the core code. Doing this is an intentional fork, and comes with strain on the network and stress for all of us. Given the minor nature of the issues and the relative stability of the blockchain I've opted to delay this patch till we started talking about additional core upgrades to push in bulk. I think now is a good time to bring this back up and start discussing it as a group.


That being said, I'm upgrading this issue from minor because I think it's related to:


one of my wallet again caught up in a fork. Has many peers connected as well so seems there are quite a few others that are on the fork too.

InvalidChainFound: invalid block=fee06687ea6c3cb6e518  height=76884  trust=95641277799943567833  blocktrust=92578545  date=11/22/15 14:26:10
InvalidChainFound:  current best=259a9975c8ae3305320a  height=76820  trust=95587305001177358921  blocktrust=159339678  date=11/22/15 12:40:14


So that being said, I'm now upgrading the issue from minor and investigating a core update.

I believe I know what needs to be done to fix both of these problems. I'm currently looking into verifying and figuring out what the best way to push an update is.

If anyone wants to discuss other core upgrades, now is the time! (Keeping in mind we are currently looking at core upgrades, not wallet upgrades.)

Crackfoo, if you can PM me or post here on information regarding how you went about investigating this I'd appreciate it. Others might find it useful as well.

I'll need some time to confirm things and prep a suggested update. Please bear with me through this process. I'll keep you all updated best I can. We'll get it all sorted out.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 22, 2015, 11:44:46 PM
No Issues here..

btw, no issues on zpool.ca either. its mining like a charm, and pays out in SWING.. very nice work xpool/zpool!

Excellent to hear!

I'm unable to replicate any issues on my end either, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I will be investigating.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 23, 2015, 01:01:37 AM
No Issues here..

btw, no issues on zpool.ca either. its mining like a charm, and pays out in SWING.. very nice work xpool/zpool!

Excellent to hear!

I'm unable to replicate any issues on my end either, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I will be investigating.

I didn't do anything special to track issues down. just noticed the one of my pool wallet keeps jumping the chain to another. First time I did a rescan and it came back to the proper one, today though it would not move back to the proper one so had to toast my blockchain and redownload it all.


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 23, 2015, 01:13:49 AM
Well I know you are firmly against switching algos, but I do think the wallet could be served very well by a few things: Improve coin control in someway so that it becomes more of a variable factor and adds even more of a level of skill. I believe presstab has made some excellent innovations in that arena. Also, as I think someone said, allowing the window size to be adjusted and maximized. All in all I think it's going great! Swing is coming up on the big 100k!

Edit: The way Sprouts did coin controil was awesome too. It was it's own page with the wallet and color coded inputs to determine their weight. It also showed a very cleasr and concise probability, which he didn't do, but I think that probability could be used to have an actual time estimate feature for each input. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement, but it would be awesome.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 23, 2015, 03:30:37 AM
Let me be a little clearer if you don't mind.

I  noticed the one of my pool wallet keeps jumping the chain to another.

How did you notice this? A Swingd command? Comparing your wallet to the block explorer? Comparing two wallets?

First time I did a rescan and it came back to the proper one, today though it would not move back to the proper one so had to toast my blockchain and redownload it all.

"I did a rescan"

How? Is this a Swingd command? How did you get the readout you posted above?


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 23, 2015, 03:39:28 AM
Well I know you are firmly against switching algos, but I do think the wallet could be served very well by a few things: Improve coin control in someway so that it becomes more of a variable factor and adds even more of a level of skill. I believe presstab has made some excellent innovations in that arena. Also, as I think someone said, allowing the window size to be adjusted and maximized. All in all I think it's going great! Swing is coming up on the big 100k!

Edit: The way Sprouts did coin controil was awesome too. It was it's own page with the wallet and color coded inputs to determine their weight. It also showed a very cleasr and concise probability, which he didn't do, but I think that probability could be used to have an actual time estimate feature for each input. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement, but it would be awesome.

I like the thought of this. Can I get some links?

My initial thought is about how Swing already seems to split and combine inputs on its own. I'm unaware if this is compatible with coin control. (I also don't know why or where in the code this occurs.. other than guesses that is. I haven't explored that yet.)

I also don't know how they accomplished coin control or how to implement it.

Being the only dev working on this (we could really use more) it may be tough for me to implement this without being able to bounce code off people.

That being said, I'm absolutely interested in exploring it.

While I'm digging around trying to sort out the connectivity upgrade I'll see if I can figure out how to make the new version's wallet go fullscreen too.

I should also mention:

@Berzeck in my slack group (http://crypto.typeform.com/to/ahJtmF) (Part of the WorldCoin  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204894.0)team) has offered to potentially help us implement his "Dancing Hippo / Worldcoin Business Center (http://worldcoin.global/wbc-2-0-0-dancing-hippo-released/)" wallet as an alternative wallet for Swing.

I gave it a look and it seems pretty neat. He's also the only dev to suggest or seem interested in working with Swing. If people are interested I can poke him about it.

(Oh and it goes fullscreen)

Preview of what that looks like:

http://i.imgur.com/nBrzNef.jpg


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 23, 2015, 03:49:34 AM
Well I know you are firmly against switching algos,

Also I should mention that I'm not firmly against it, I just think it's a bad idea. If there was big community support for this we could investigate.

My thinking is just:

A: SHA256 makes it more likely for miners to discover and sample Swing.
B: SHA256 is easiest to rent and mine with for most people.
C: I don't have any experience with an algo swap and the more we change the more we introduce room for error. I don't want to break things.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 23, 2015, 04:15:40 AM
Let me be a little clearer if you don't mind.

I  noticed the one of my pool wallet keeps jumping the chain to another.

How did you notice this? A Swingd command? Comparing your wallet to the block explorer? Comparing two wallets?

First time I did a rescan and it came back to the proper one, today though it would not move back to the proper one so had to toast my blockchain and redownload it all.

"I did a rescan"

How? Is this a Swingd command? How did you get the readout you posted above?

Yeah I used the swingd getinfo to see what the current block height is on each one. I noticed because the diff was showing different on the pools so knew one has to be off. One pool was mining it while the other wasnt' which is an indicator for me.

yes the -rescan option is in swingd. Shut it down and start it back up as swingd -rescan and it rescans what you have, it happened to connect back up to the proper chain and all my tx on the fork were removed from my wallet. 2nd time I could stop connecting to other peers on that same fork. So deleted the chain and peers and set addnode= with known good peers.



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Post by: murderouskirk on November 23, 2015, 04:30:05 AM
Let me be a little clearer if you don't mind.

I  noticed the one of my pool wallet keeps jumping the chain to another.

How did you notice this? A Swingd command? Comparing your wallet to the block explorer? Comparing two wallets?

First time I did a rescan and it came back to the proper one, today though it would not move back to the proper one so had to toast my blockchain and redownload it all.

"I did a rescan"

How? Is this a Swingd command? How did you get the readout you posted above?

Yeah I used the swingd getinfo to see what the current block height is on each one. I noticed because the diff was showing different on the pools so knew one has to be off. One pool was mining it while the other wasnt' which is an indicator for me.

yes the -rescan option is in swingd. Shut it down and start it back up as swingd -rescan and it rescans what you have, it happened to connect back up to the proper chain and all my tx on the fork were removed from my wallet. 2nd time I could stop connecting to other peers on that same fork. So deleted the chain and peers and set addnode= with known good peers.



Thank you. This should help reassure users concerned about their personal wallet status while I investigate.

For GUI users:

(At least in windows)

You will not have the "Target" field in the Swing.exe properties.

To rescan:

Right click and drag/drop Swing.exe -> Make shortcut here
Right click shortcut -> properties
In the "Target" field you will see the path to Swing.exe.
make it say: C:\Directory\Swing.exe -rescan
Apply -> OK
Launch VIA shortcut.

Now when you startup Swing you have a regular launcher and a launcher that rescans. (It will happen during the splash screen and will take a while. Mine hasn't finished yet so I'm not sure what to expect when it finishes.)


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 24, 2015, 07:01:48 AM
C-Cex responded to my request to add the coin and it's on the voting block:

https://c-cex.com/?id=vote


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 24, 2015, 07:11:26 AM
Well I know you are firmly against switching algos, but I do think the wallet could be served very well by a few things: Improve coin control in someway so that it becomes more of a variable factor and adds even more of a level of skill. I believe presstab has made some excellent innovations in that arena. Also, as I think someone said, allowing the window size to be adjusted and maximized. All in all I think it's going great! Swing is coming up on the big 100k!

Edit: The way Sprouts did coin controil was awesome too. It was it's own page with the wallet and color coded inputs to determine their weight. It also showed a very cleasr and concise probability, which he didn't do, but I think that probability could be used to have an actual time estimate feature for each input. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement, but it would be awesome.

I like the thought of this. Can I get some links?

My initial thought is about how Swing already seems to split and combine inputs on its own. I'm unaware if this is compatible with coin control. (I also don't know why or where in the code this occurs.. other than guesses that is. I haven't explored that yet.)

I also don't know how they accomplished coin control or how to implement it.

Being the only dev working on this (we could really use more) it may be tough for me to implement this without being able to bounce code off people.

That being said, I'm absolutely interested in exploring it.

Swing already has coin control, I'm talking about upgrading it to allow stakers to have more information at their disposal when making decisions about their wallet balance. This is what coin control is for. You always want to spend the coins with the least weight first. Coin control allows for this.

Take a look at RateCoin (XRA) to see the kinds of features I'm talking about. Swing could adopt many of the improvements XRA made in coin control pretty simply I think.


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Post by: VentureC on November 24, 2015, 07:23:11 AM
Well I know you are firmly against switching algos, but I do think the wallet could be served very well by a few things: Improve coin control in someway so that it becomes more of a variable factor and adds even more of a level of skill. I believe presstab has made some excellent innovations in that arena. Also, as I think someone said, allowing the window size to be adjusted and maximized. All in all I think it's going great! Swing is coming up on the big 100k!

Edit: The way Sprouts did coin controil was awesome too. It was it's own page with the wallet and color coded inputs to determine their weight. It also showed a very cleasr and concise probability, which he didn't do, but I think that probability could be used to have an actual time estimate feature for each input. I don't know how difficult that would be to implement, but it would be awesome.

I like the thought of this. Can I get some links?

My initial thought is about how Swing already seems to split and combine inputs on its own. I'm unaware if this is compatible with coin control. (I also don't know why or where in the code this occurs.. other than guesses that is. I haven't explored that yet.)

I also don't know how they accomplished coin control or how to implement it.

Being the only dev working on this (we could really use more) it may be tough for me to implement this without being able to bounce code off people.

That being said, I'm absolutely interested in exploring it.

Swing already has coin control, I'm talking about upgrading it to allow stakers to have more information at their disposal when making decisions about their wallet balance. This is what coin control is for. You always want to spend the coins with the least weight first. Coin control allows for this.

Take a look at RateCoin (XRA) to see the kinds of features I'm talking about. Swing could adopt many of the improvements XRA made in coin control pretty simply I think.

@Quantumgravity, you're making a very good suggestion and you got my vote. Coin control is vital for any good alt coin.  Now I'm not saying Swing isn't good, it is actually very good, but adding coin control to the wallet as a feature and proper wallet screen resizing would make it even better. These are features that people nowadays expect modern alt coins to have from the get go, especially for POS. 

The total amount of Swing coins in circulation is very low, we're still in the beginning stages of the coin so implementing these new features now is the best time to do it.

Swing is very cheap on Bittrex right now and it's very affordable to own a nice percentage of the total coins in existence.  Grab some more before it goes to the moon.



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Post by: quantumgravity on November 24, 2015, 04:14:28 PM


@Quantumgravity, you're making a very good suggestion and you got my vote. Coin control is vital for any good alt coin.  Now I'm not saying Swing isn't good, it is actually very good, but adding coin control to the wallet as a feature and proper wallet screen resizing would make it even better. These are features that people nowadays expect modern alt coins to have from the get go, especially for POS. 

The total amount of Swing coins in circulation is very low, we're still in the beginning stages of the coin so implementing these new features now is the best time to do it.

Swing is very cheap on Bittrex right now and it's very affordable to own a nice percentage of the total coins in existence.  Grab some more before it goes to the moon.



Well, Swing already has coin control in the wallet. I am talking about upgrading it to give the user access to more data.


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Post by: rockyV on November 25, 2015, 01:59:45 PM


@Quantumgravity, you're making a very good suggestion and you got my vote. Coin control is vital for any good alt coin.  Now I'm not saying Swing isn't good, it is actually very good, but adding coin control to the wallet as a feature and proper wallet screen resizing would make it even better. These are features that people nowadays expect modern alt coins to have from the get go, especially for POS.  

The total amount of Swing coins in circulation is very low, we're still in the beginning stages of the coin so implementing these new features now is the best time to do it.

Swing is very cheap on Bittrex right now and it's very affordable to own a nice percentage of the total coins in existence.  Grab some more before it goes to the moon.




Wow ..How did you get so much optimism, I only see the price easy to slip down, with short-term rebound.


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Post by: HiggsBosunBlues on November 26, 2015, 10:12:58 AM
I really don't get it but its been sold to death since it hit bittrex.





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Post by: quantumgravity on November 26, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
I really don't get it but its been sold to death since it hit bittrex.





Look at the distribution on bittrex. I have a feeling the price is going to rise soon...


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Post by: crackfoo on November 26, 2015, 01:45:20 PM
Again one pool forked off the main chain.


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Post by: quantumgravity on November 27, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
It should be interesting to watch bittrex in the coming weeks. There is usually only one reason that one or two people suppress the price and buy up all the supply and then keep it on an exchange when they could be staking like mad... Get ready for a pump, Swingers! The transparency of Bittrex is what makes it one of the top tier exchanges. I love that you can see how many coins is in each account.


Title: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: VentureC on November 27, 2015, 07:35:27 AM
It should be interesting to watch bittrex in the coming weeks. There is usually only one reason that one or two people suppress the price and buy up all the supply and then keep it on an exchange when they could be staking like mad... Get ready for a pump, Swingers! The transparency of Bittrex is what makes it one of the top tier exchanges. I love that you can see how many coins is in each account.

You're absolutely right.




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Post by: BluRPie on November 28, 2015, 08:19:14 AM
 This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on December 4th unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC.


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 28, 2015, 11:25:09 AM
This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on December 4th unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC.

I don't think that will be a problem. Could use more buy support though.


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Post by: gregofdoom on November 28, 2015, 11:27:14 AM
This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on December 4th unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC.

What is the conclusion? Time to buy more ridiculously cheap coins.


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Post by: BluRPie on November 28, 2015, 11:53:45 AM
This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on December 4th unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC.

What is the conclusion? Time to buy more ridiculously cheap coins.

lol, yup.


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Post by: crackfoo on November 28, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
We've upgraded our www.zpool.ca servers and it seems this may have helped with the forking issues. Mining pretty good the past 24 hours without issues.

Cheers


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 28, 2015, 06:33:21 PM
We've upgraded our www.zpool.ca servers and it seems this may have helped with the forking issues. Mining pretty good the past 24 hours without issues.

Cheers

Good to hear. Sorry for the lack of posts been on a thanksgiving trip. It's probably worth mentioning the seed node runs on Ubuntu 14.04 x64. I would expect wallets running on the same operating system likely won't have forking troubles.

While I've been gone I've been touching base with other devs to get their opinions on the state of swing and update options. Will try to keep you guys in the loop. Trekking back to the home office now.

Hope everyone who does thanksgiving had a nice one.


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Post by: Nimmitabel on November 29, 2015, 11:34:22 PM
Well, 24 hours mining Swing with one Antminer S3 for a total of 45 coins.. worth a grand total of $0.37 AUD (australian dollars).

S3 uses 360 watts, electricity costs 22c/kWhr so i nominally used $1.90 with of power- but as I run my miners on solar PV that I otherwise sell to the grid at 1.3c/kWhr it didn't cost me much.

But the point is: how can people be attracted to this coin? Total coins created to date..converted to AUD means I could buy the lot for about $4k. Is this really just the very very beginning of the coin.. or is it going to follow the well trodden path to obscurity along with TIT coin etc..?

I'm happy to run a core and throw a miner onto it to help.. I just would like to know am i missing something about the coin and its prospects?


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Post by: HashStatz on November 30, 2015, 02:07:06 AM
Well, 24 hours mining Swing with one Antminer S3 for a total of 45 coins.. worth a grand total of $0.37 AUD (australian dollars).

S3 uses 360 watts, electricity costs 22c/kWhr so i nominally used $1.90 with of power- but as I run my miners on solar PV that I otherwise sell to the grid at 1.3c/kWhr it didn't cost me much.

But the point is: how can people be attracted to this coin? Total coins created to date..converted to AUD means I could buy the lot for about $4k. Is this really just the very very beginning of the coin.. or is it going to follow the well trodden path to obscurity along with TIT coin etc..?

I'm happy to run a core and throw a miner onto it to help.. I just would like to know am i missing something about the coin and its prospects?

Remember that when mining Swing the POW reward is not only based on the last 3 digits of the block number the POS reward is based on, but also the multiplier which is based on a 10000 block cycle. So you might want to wait a couple thousand blocks before mining if you are worried about getting the best ROI.

Example: for block 83801 the POS reward would be 8.01 Swing, the POW reward would be 2.40 Swing (POS reward * multiplier = POW reward).

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhDPwemw.png&t=558&c=UAI6rsgr3kgNXA


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Post by: TheInfidel on November 30, 2015, 07:58:29 AM
Looking at the trading and buy support on exchanges I have some concerns about its future.
I'm top ten on the list staking like a beast, have in the past months sold some off and am well in profit.
What I'm trying to say is that, if some interest for the coin can't be whipped up, or a use of some kind for it, I see a problem.


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Post by: murderouskirk on November 30, 2015, 11:26:37 PM
Looking at the trading and buy support on exchanges I have some concerns about its future.
I'm top ten on the list staking like a beast, have in the past months sold some off and am well in profit.
What I'm trying to say is that, if some interest for the coin can't be whipped up, or a use of some kind for it, I see a problem.

We will keep progressing as a community however we can. I'm focused more on upgrading the core right now, but I'm open to any ideas.

Glad to hear you are "well in profit" though. Shouldn't be too bad for you if it takes us some time to get our footing.
There are no plans to abandon ship (Even with how much core updates stress me the hell out).

I'd make some volume for us if I could but I'm down to .005 BTC after buying that chart on TrySwing.com. Cost me something like 0.95, I didn't get as much support paying for it as i had hoped. So I can't do much volume generation for you guys. That's up to all of you.

On a side note, I'm thinking about adding more seed nodes. If you want your nodes IP to be hardcoded (or something similar) tell me. Would be good to get a couple pools doing this.


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Post by: fitinplace on December 01, 2015, 07:33:54 AM
*** SWING NEEDS YOUR VOTE ***
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting


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Post by: tkari on December 01, 2015, 05:15:14 PM
voted!


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Post by: murderouskirk on December 03, 2015, 01:01:19 AM
Quick status report.

I've been taking some time to research into the best ways to go about this upcoming core upgrade. I've spoken with a few other devs about the issues we are looking to upgrade and gotten some valuable input and suggestions on alternate solutions. I'm meeting in person this week with an intelligent coder friend of mine who is familiar with the issues we're facing. We plan to take a deeper look at the code itself and potentially come up with the proposed patch. Along with this I'm factoring in some minor core upgrades to be packaged into the update (checkpoints, seed node update, protocol versioning, etc.. etc..).

In addition I've been looking into getting more devs on the swing team. The other coin devs I've spoken with have expressed an interest in helping but had to keep focus on their own projects. One of them has expressed an interest in some cross marketing down the road. The dev I'm meeting with is busy chasing his phd, but has expressed a willingness to work on the code with me and get involved to an extent.

Trying to make sure this is done right rather than rushing a quick patch.

Will keep you all updated.


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Post by: VentureC on December 03, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
*** SWING NEEDS YOUR VOTE ***
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

Voted! SWING for the WIN! :D



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Post by: nikkers on December 03, 2015, 06:46:23 PM
*** SWING NEEDS YOUR VOTE ***
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

Voted, i really like this coin, one of the few with a good communicative dev behind it, who is visibly putting in a lot of effort.

keep it up mate  ;)


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Post by: murderouskirk on December 03, 2015, 07:47:32 PM
Quick status report.

I've been taking some time to research into the best ways to go about this upcoming core upgrade. I've spoken with a few other devs about the issues we are looking to upgrade and gotten some valuable input and suggestions on alternate solutions. I'm meeting in person this week with an intelligent coder friend of mine who is familiar with the issues we're facing. We plan to take a deeper look at the code itself and potentially come up with the proposed patch. Along with this I'm factoring in some minor core upgrades to be packaged into the update (checkpoints, seed node update, protocol versioning, etc.. etc..).

In addition I've been looking into getting more devs on the swing team. The other coin devs I've spoken with have expressed an interest in helping but had to keep focus on their own projects. One of them has expressed an interest in some cross marketing down the road. The dev I'm meeting with is busy chasing his phd, but has expressed a willingness to work on the code with me and get involved to an extent.

Trying to make sure this is done right rather than rushing a quick patch.

Will keep you all updated.

I'm quoting this just so it's visible on the new page.

Thanks for voting guys, keep it up!


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Post by: murderouskirk on December 04, 2015, 08:14:05 PM
Quick status report.

I've been taking some time to research into the best ways to go about this upcoming core upgrade. I've spoken with a few other devs about the issues we are looking to upgrade and gotten some valuable input and suggestions on alternate solutions. I'm meeting in person this week with an intelligent coder friend of mine who is familiar with the issues we're facing. We plan to take a deeper look at the code itself and potentially come up with the proposed patch. Along with this I'm factoring in some minor core upgrades to be packaged into the update (checkpoints, seed node update, protocol versioning, etc.. etc..).

In addition I've been looking into getting more devs on the swing team. The other coin devs I've spoken with have expressed an interest in helping but had to keep focus on their own projects. One of them has expressed an interest in some cross marketing down the road. The dev I'm meeting with is busy chasing his phd, but has expressed a willingness to work on the code with me and get involved to an extent.

Trying to make sure this is done right rather than rushing a quick patch.

Will keep you all updated.

I'm quoting this just so it's visible on the new page.

Thanks for voting guys, keep it up!

Alright so we've dug into the code to take a look for potential connectivity upgrades and have made progress.

I'd like to try to force some connectivity problems in a test environment, that way I have something I can use to test potential upgrades against.

In order to do that I need to get a better feel for the environments any forking occurs in.

Put simply, if you think you have experienced forking, i NEED to know what operating system it happened in.

I'll check back to see if anyone responds. If not I'll start prodding people from earlier in the thread.

Thanks.


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Post by: sparksi on December 04, 2015, 09:06:48 PM
Quick status report.

I've been taking some time to research into the best ways to go about this upcoming core upgrade. I've spoken with a few other devs about the issues we are looking to upgrade and gotten some valuable input and suggestions on alternate solutions. I'm meeting in person this week with an intelligent coder friend of mine who is familiar with the issues we're facing. We plan to take a deeper look at the code itself and potentially come up with the proposed patch. Along with this I'm factoring in some minor core upgrades to be packaged into the update (checkpoints, seed node update, protocol versioning, etc.. etc..).

In addition I've been looking into getting more devs on the swing team. The other coin devs I've spoken with have expressed an interest in helping but had to keep focus on their own projects. One of them has expressed an interest in some cross marketing down the road. The dev I'm meeting with is busy chasing his phd, but has expressed a willingness to work on the code with me and get involved to an extent.

Trying to make sure this is done right rather than rushing a quick patch.

Will keep you all updated.

I'm quoting this just so it's visible on the new page.

Thanks for voting guys, keep it up!

Alright so we've dug into the code to take a look for potential connectivity upgrades and have made progress.

I'd like to try to force some connectivity problems in a test environment, that way I have something I can use to test potential upgrades against.

In order to do that I need to get a better feel for the environments any forking occurs in.

Put simply, if you think you have experienced forking, i NEED to know what operating system it happened in.

I'll check back to see if anyone responds. If not I'll start prodding people from earlier in the thread.

Thanks.

Late 23rd of November (EET) and operating system is Win7 Ultimate. BTW: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg13142326#msg13142326


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 04, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
Quick status report.

I've been taking some time to research into the best ways to go about this upcoming core upgrade. I've spoken with a few other devs about the issues we are looking to upgrade and gotten some valuable input and suggestions on alternate solutions. I'm meeting in person this week with an intelligent coder friend of mine who is familiar with the issues we're facing. We plan to take a deeper look at the code itself and potentially come up with the proposed patch. Along with this I'm factoring in some minor core upgrades to be packaged into the update (checkpoints, seed node update, protocol versioning, etc.. etc..).

In addition I've been looking into getting more devs on the swing team. The other coin devs I've spoken with have expressed an interest in helping but had to keep focus on their own projects. One of them has expressed an interest in some cross marketing down the road. The dev I'm meeting with is busy chasing his phd, but has expressed a willingness to work on the code with me and get involved to an extent.

Trying to make sure this is done right rather than rushing a quick patch.

Will keep you all updated.

I'm quoting this just so it's visible on the new page.

Thanks for voting guys, keep it up!

Alright so we've dug into the code to take a look for potential connectivity upgrades and have made progress.

I'd like to try to force some connectivity problems in a test environment, that way I have something I can use to test potential upgrades against.

In order to do that I need to get a better feel for the environments any forking occurs in.

Put simply, if you think you have experienced forking, i NEED to know what operating system it happened in.

I'll check back to see if anyone responds. If not I'll start prodding people from earlier in the thread.

Thanks.

Late 23rd of November (EET) and operating system is Win7 Ultimate. BTW: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg13142326#msg13142326
x64 or x32?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: crackfoo on December 05, 2015, 12:22:10 AM
Wallet is disabled on Bittrex, any idea whats up? Just routine?


Title: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: VentureC on December 05, 2015, 01:10:44 AM
Wallet is disabled on Bittrex, any idea whats up? Just routine?

No. Swing was delisted from Bittrex unfortunately because of lack of trading volume. So you'll have to trade Swing elsewhere now (Yobit).

Vote it up at Cryptopia to get it listed there:
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: sparksi on December 05, 2015, 05:17:28 AM
Quick status report.

I've been taking some time to research into the best ways to go about this upcoming core upgrade. I've spoken with a few other devs about the issues we are looking to upgrade and gotten some valuable input and suggestions on alternate solutions. I'm meeting in person this week with an intelligent coder friend of mine who is familiar with the issues we're facing. We plan to take a deeper look at the code itself and potentially come up with the proposed patch. Along with this I'm factoring in some minor core upgrades to be packaged into the update (checkpoints, seed node update, protocol versioning, etc.. etc..).

In addition I've been looking into getting more devs on the swing team. The other coin devs I've spoken with have expressed an interest in helping but had to keep focus on their own projects. One of them has expressed an interest in some cross marketing down the road. The dev I'm meeting with is busy chasing his phd, but has expressed a willingness to work on the code with me and get involved to an extent.

Trying to make sure this is done right rather than rushing a quick patch.

Will keep you all updated.

I'm quoting this just so it's visible on the new page.

Thanks for voting guys, keep it up!

Alright so we've dug into the code to take a look for potential connectivity upgrades and have made progress.

I'd like to try to force some connectivity problems in a test environment, that way I have something I can use to test potential upgrades against.

In order to do that I need to get a better feel for the environments any forking occurs in.

Put simply, if you think you have experienced forking, i NEED to know what operating system it happened in.

I'll check back to see if anyone responds. If not I'll start prodding people from earlier in the thread.

Thanks.

Late 23rd of November (EET) and operating system is Win7 Ultimate. BTW: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg13142326#msg13142326
x64 or x32?

64


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: zazarb on December 06, 2015, 09:02:41 AM
Swing still listing in bittrex,  :)
The SWING market is back online after some maintenance.
but swing rate totally disappointing >:(


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on December 07, 2015, 10:19:41 PM
SWING is still on Bittrex it would be unhappy to lose this exchange.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 12, 2015, 02:24:44 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to touch base.

I'm at the point where I have a good feel for exactly where and how the Swing core can be improved. I'm on a buisness trip this weekend but when I get back I'm going to work on pulling together/finalizing and posting the proposed upgrade.

I plan to explain the issues currently occurring in the code with example debug logs, along with the difference the upgrade would make. That way everyone can easily understand the issues and see what it is were talking about changing.

Thanks guys. More info to come later.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: BluRPie on December 12, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
Nice, good to hear!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: TheInfidel on December 12, 2015, 05:32:00 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to touch base.

I'm at the point where I have a good feel for exactly where and how the Swing core can be improved. I'm on a buisness trip this weekend but when I get back I'm going to work on pulling together/finalizing and posting the proposed upgrade.

I plan to explain the issues currently occurring in the code with example debug logs, along with the difference the upgrade would make. That way everyone can easily understand the issues and see what it is were talking about changing.

Thanks guys. More info to come later.

Looking forward to hearing more about that. Incidentally I have had not wallet or staking issues that I'm aware of, running two wallets, one on WIN 10 and one on WIN 8.1 both 64 bit systems.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: BluRPie on December 12, 2015, 07:22:42 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to touch base.

I'm at the point where I have a good feel for exactly where and how the Swing core can be improved. I'm on a buisness trip this weekend but when I get back I'm going to work on pulling together/finalizing and posting the proposed upgrade.

I plan to explain the issues currently occurring in the code with example debug logs, along with the difference the upgrade would make. That way everyone can easily understand the issues and see what it is were talking about changing.

Thanks guys. More info to come later.

Looking forward to hearing more about that. Incidentally I have had not wallet or staking issues that I'm aware of, running two wallets, one on WIN 10 and one on WIN 8.1 both 64 bit systems.

I dont have any issues here either, i had in the beginning but not the past 3 months or so. WIN10 64 here


Title: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: VentureC on December 14, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
Bittrex is showing this warning for the SWING/BTC trading pair:

"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on Friday, December 18th 2015 unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC. If you are the developer of the coin and would like to keep it listed, please contact us at support@bittrex.com."

Dev, I hope you'll have time to contact them. Bittrex is an important exchange for SWING. Thanks.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on December 14, 2015, 06:13:19 PM
Bittrex is showing this warning for the SWING/BTC trading pair:

"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on Friday, December 18th 2015 unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC. If you are the developer of the coin and would like to keep it listed, please contact us at support@bittrex.com."

Dev, I hope you'll have time to contact them. Bittrex is an important exchange for SWING. Thanks.

Instead of waiting on dev, we do try to do a little volume on bitrex.
I've already done and ask for help :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 14, 2015, 10:48:44 PM
Bittrex is showing this warning for the SWING/BTC trading pair:

"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on Friday, December 18th 2015 unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC. If you are the developer of the coin and would like to keep it listed, please contact us at support@bittrex.com."

Dev, I hope you'll have time to contact them. Bittrex is an important exchange for SWING. Thanks.

Instead of waiting on dev, we do try to do a little volume on bitrex.
I've already done and ask for help :)

Me contacting them doesn't resolve this. We just need to make trades or encourage new traders to automatically resolve this. More volume = warning vanishes.

(I'll give it a shot though.)

Quote
Hello,

I am the swing dev.

 This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest. It may be removed on Friday, December 18th 2015 unless the average daily trade volume for the last 7 days exceeds 0.2 BTC. If you are the developer of the coin and would like to keep it listed, please contact us at support@bittrex.com.

Our coin is still active, just a bit of low volume at the moment. Aside from encouraging holders to make volume and trying to get new traders, what can we do to keep listed during times of low volume?

Thanks!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 14, 2015, 11:02:58 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to touch base.

I'm at the point where I have a good feel for exactly where and how the Swing core can be improved. I'm on a buisness trip this weekend but when I get back I'm going to work on pulling together/finalizing and posting the proposed upgrade.

I plan to explain the issues currently occurring in the code with example debug logs, along with the difference the upgrade would make. That way everyone can easily understand the issues and see what it is were talking about changing.

Thanks guys. More info to come later.

Looking forward to hearing more about that. Incidentally I have had not wallet or staking issues that I'm aware of, running two wallets, one on WIN 10 and one on WIN 8.1 both 64 bit systems.

I dont have any issues here either, i had in the beginning but not the past 3 months or so. WIN10 64 here

Just for clarity sake I haven't had any issues myself either. I went out of sync once weeks ago when i was offline for a while but aside from that no problems.

I'm just going off what people have reported as opportunities to strengthen the core code.

Let me give some insight.

I've recently been digging into what happens with the rewards when they are calculated, and exactly what's going on when getting calculated.

With the current setup, that process looks something like this:

Code:
Block Count: 975 Last Three: 975 Decimal: 9.75 Final:975000000

Count: 976 Three: 976 Decimal: 9.76 Final:976000000

Count: 977 Three: 977 Decimal: 9.77 Final:977000000

Count: 978 Three: 978 Decimal: 9.78 Final:977999999.99999988079071044921875

Count: 979 Three: 979 Decimal: 9.790000000000001 Final:979000000.00000011920928955078125

Count: 980 Three: 980 Decimal: 9.8 Final:980000000.00000011920928955078125

Count: 981 Three: 981 Decimal: 9.81 Final:981000000

Count: 982 Three: 982 Decimal: 9.82 Final:982000000

Count: 983 Three: 983 Decimal: 9.83 Final:983000000

Count: 984 Three: 984 Decimal: 9.84 Final:984000000

Count: 985 Three: 985 Decimal: 9.85 Final:985000000

Count: 986 Three: 986 Decimal: 9.86 Final:986000000

Count: 987 Three: 987 Decimal: 9.870000000000001 Final:987000000.00000011920928955078125

Count: 988 Three: 988 Decimal: 9.88 Final:988000000.00000011920928955078125

HERE is the section of code that spits this out. I just used block 1 - 999 as sample output. (https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1047) For the sake of clarity i re-coded the process in java for faster debugging. (im just better at java is all, but java may produce slightly different results is the point)

So what I discovered is that somewhere else in the code the decimal is inserted into a full number with 9+ digits.
The end result in this section of code that gets passed out looks something like '9.87 * COIN' (=987000000).

Me attempting to put in the decimal during the reward calculation instead of letting it do it after results in some unnecessary math. Math that doesn't always turn out clean, and leaves room to lose accuracy when clipping/rounding the final result to a full number.

I'm working on re-coding this section so a result like this:

Count: 987 Three: 987 Decimal: 9.870000000000001 Final:987000000.00000011920928955078125

Acts like this:

Count: 987 Last Three: 987 Final:987000000

Now, this is an example of POS. POW gets a little more challenging since rewards need to be multiplied by 10%.. 20%.. 30%.. etc.. But I'm working on doing that cleanly too.

But that's essentially where we have room for core upgrades and cleaning up the internal math for increased accuracy.

So that should give you guys a little better idea at what I've been looking at.

Will post more later as I make progress.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 14, 2015, 11:32:25 PM
I should also mention that I want to redo the website at some point. It's built on a platform that was fast and easy to get up in time for launch, but is now charging me money that doesn't need to be spent. I'll rebuild the website into a cleaner/ more professional looking 'scroller' website on wordpress when I get the chance. I want to wrap up the proposed core upgrade before I work on that though so you guys have a chance to go over it while I do the site.

Basically when I get happy with the core upgrade proposal I'll post it. You guys can look it over, see the exact changes it would make, and decide if you want to go through with an upgrade or make further changes to the proposal. We don't HAVE to upgrade if people are largely content, but I want the option to be there for when / if we come to the agreement to rework the reward code. We could just put the upgrade on standby and focus on things like marketing and increasing our userbase. If / when we do decide the proposal is good and largely agreed upon, we will then go over what the upgrade process would look like and proceed from there.

I think explaining the room for improvement and putting out proposals like this is a good way to get people thinking about the core code and potentially stepping up as a volunteer dev willing to keep improving Swing as a community.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 15, 2015, 07:12:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Bbuuf1e.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/676660481348775936)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on December 18, 2015, 07:33:26 AM
I hope that Swing is not removed from Bittrex.
It is one of the most interesting coins - welcome to trade on trex ;)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: zazarb on December 18, 2015, 11:59:42 AM
I hope that Swing is not removed from Bittrex.
It is one of the most interesting coins - welcome to trade on trex ;)
actual last week volume :0.89BTC/7=0.127BTC daily,
missing up min 0.2 BTC.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on December 18, 2015, 03:30:14 PM
I hope that Swing is not removed from Bittrex.
It is one of the most interesting coins - welcome to trade on trex ;)
actual last week volume :0.89BTC/7=0.127BTC daily,
missing up min 0.2 BTC.

Done, I hope that will be enough  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: zazarb on December 19, 2015, 12:44:43 PM
I hope that Swing is not removed from Bittrex.
It is one of the most interesting coins - welcome to trade on trex ;)
actual last week volume :0.89BTC/7=0.127BTC daily,
missing up min 0.2 BTC.

Done, I hope that will be enough  :)
sure 2.5BTC  ;D , that just would not be too late, warned the until December 18th.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 19, 2015, 11:09:10 PM
Alright I just heard from Bittrex Bill.

He wanted to know more about Swing, where it stands, and what's to come. Basically checking if there was progress being made or if it was an abandoned coin.

I told him about the core upgrades in progress, how I've been meeting potential Swing devs, how I plan to redo the website, and how increased marketing and new ideas fit into that roadmap.

The extra volume did help as well (i think without it we would have just gotten delisted), and he's decided to.. well let me just quote:

Quote
Hi,

Thanks for the update. I'll remove the delisting banner and keep the coin listed for another week. Please make sure the volume no longer dips. It's a bad sign for a coin to keep straddling the minimum.

Bill

& the response

Quote
Thank you Bill,

I'll see what I can do to get a more respectable volume going. You're right in that it's not good for my coin, nor is it of much use to you guys. I understand you're running a volume dependent business over there as well.

I appreciate your willingness to cooperate, have a nice night.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: TheInfidel on December 19, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
That is good news, now all we need is some more people to start trading it, other than the few of us who do.
Anyway keep up the good work and dedication you are showing for this coin and it should work out.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 19, 2015, 11:23:59 PM
So that being said. Should we talk volume?

Do we want to re-prioritize things?

Currently I've been focused doing the slower, more time consuming, less 'exciting' core upgrade work.

To restate, this is work that's being done to improve the quality and stability of Swing's core. While the majority of users experience no issues using Swing, there have been a few minor reports of wallets de-syncing and losing proper connection to the network.

I'm going to continue progress on this regardless, but I think we should consider prioritizing volume generating tasks given our current scenario.

A website overhaul, and some marketing events might be a smart play.

I'd like to hear people's thoughts. Keep in mind this is a community oriented coin and a group investment, not a dictatorship. Your opinions matter and have an impact.

We are a collective now, I'm just here to help steer the ship at this point.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 21, 2015, 08:39:38 PM
Nobody? Just me again? Yikes..

Alright.. I'll just keep going then.

I was thinking about running a promotional content contest. Basically giving a time frame for people to create videos / virtual fliers / articles / other promo material, then having a voting period and rewarding the best content with Swing. That way we have some material to market with, it gets people involved, it gets non-informed cryptoheads seeing the contest, and it gets free Swing in some people's hands.

Right, now I want to do something I don't normally do. I'm going to take off my 'lead dev' hat and put on my 'web entrepreneur / investor' hat and speak as if I was only a holder.

What we really need in times like this is a sales funnel and a steady stream of warm traffic. Any good web marketing venture is based around this and it's something that nearly 0 altcoins have. It's not always easy to do, traffic/sales funnels like this can be pretty potent in web marketing. If we can manage to do this properly and hook some reliable traffic into it, we would have a near constant stream of new swing users. In theory.. that could solve our volume rates securing Bittrex, and at the same time create an influx of competitive traders.

If we are ok with a little grey hat marketing, I could probably push a large amount of traffic from twitter users involved in Bitcoin.

Unless I get objections, I think I'm going to focus on trying to re-design TrySwing.com into more of a 'sales funnel' for now. Otherwise I fear we might lose Bittrex.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on December 21, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
I personally do what I can to keep SWING on bittrex - see last week;)
I also try to talk about this coin to my friends.
I believe in the success of this coin, so murderouskirk, you can count on my help :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on December 23, 2015, 01:55:32 AM
So i went back a few pages to have a look at activity. What I realized is that we are still REALLY small. We only have like 8 - 10 active swing holders as of late, and the rest are silent un-involved users.

So.. I suppose increasing our user-base should be top priority at this rate.

Also those of you that helped keep swing on Bittrex, just wanted to be sure to say thanks for the effort.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: sparksi on December 23, 2015, 06:18:36 AM
So i went back a few pages to have a look at activity. What I realized is that we are still REALLY small. We only have like 8 - 10 active swing holders as of late, and the rest are silent un-involved users.

So.. I suppose increasing our user-base should be top priority at this rate.

Also those of you that helped keep swing on Bittrex, just wanted to be sure to say thanks for the effort.

I think there should be some kind of giveaways, maybe IRC tipbot. RBY has trivia bot on irc to win your first rubies. At the moment people are really careful on what they are buying.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: marcous on December 28, 2015, 07:51:10 PM
just pick up some $SWING @yobit, glad to see community and active dev, i think marketcap is still very low and so undervalue (imho), big potential here... retweeted your pinned tweet @CryptoPumpInfo, i hope it will help to grow the community.  :)


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: newstb on December 28, 2015, 08:15:52 PM
So i went back a few pages to have a look at activity. What I realized is that we are still REALLY small. We only have like 8 - 10 active swing holders as of late, and the rest are silent un-involved users.

So.. I suppose increasing our user-base should be top priority at this rate.

Also those of you that helped keep swing on Bittrex, just wanted to be sure to say thanks for the effort.

I think there should be some kind of giveaways, maybe IRC tipbot. RBY has trivia bot on irc to win your first rubies. At the moment people are really careful on what they are buying.

Yea we need more active irc chanel for start now..


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: Azkhabar on December 29, 2015, 12:02:24 PM
Blockchain has been stuck for a few hours now... anyone knows why?


Title: ♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: VentureC on December 29, 2015, 12:02:45 PM
Swing blockchain stuck for 5 hours at block 111000 and still no movement ...  what's going on?



Title: Re: ♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: TheInfidel on December 29, 2015, 12:42:55 PM
Swing blockchain stuck for 5 hours at block 111000 and still no movement ...  what's going on?



Can confirm that I'm having the same experience.
Just checked my wallet and I don't have the same steady flow of stakes that I have become accustomed to.
Also for fun tried to make a tiny transfer to Yobit, it's not going anywhere.


Title: Re: ♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: sparksi on December 29, 2015, 03:12:40 PM
Swing blockchain stuck for 5 hours at block 111000 and still no movement ...  what's going on?



Can confirm that I'm having the same experience.
Just checked my wallet and I don't have the same steady flow of stakes that I have become accustomed to.
Also for fun tried to make a tiny transfer to Yobit, it's not going anywhere.

Blockchain is moving again. Seems that there was at least sudden drop of network weight. It was over 1 M earlier and now it is 250k. I have no idea about net hashrate changes.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gexain on December 29, 2015, 03:46:53 PM
 ;D found again and very low hashrate in the network for mining


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Post by: murderouskirk on December 29, 2015, 04:59:55 PM



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Post by: marcous on December 29, 2015, 08:26:28 PM


yep... bussy time  ;D lol


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Post by: gexain on December 30, 2015, 03:54:49 PM
:( the reward in mining is very low for block no is good is better mining other coin and buy swing coin for stake

please see the reward in this block

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?112002

please explain the block config or write one explications or info thank you


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Post by: sparksi on December 30, 2015, 05:24:18 PM
:( the reward in mining is very low for block no is good is better mining other coin and buy swing coin for stake

please see the reward in this block

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?112002

please explain the block config or write one explications or info thank you

Last three digits (112002) gives reward of 0.01 from which fourth last digit 112002 gives 20 percent of that for POW.


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Post by: Azkhabar on December 30, 2015, 05:48:55 PM
:( the reward in mining is very low for block no is good is better mining other coin and buy swing coin for stake

please see the reward in this block

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/block.dws?112002

please explain the block config or write one explications or info thank you

Mining reward is low at the moment because of the peculiar reward scheme this coin has: you can check the graph on the OP for more information. Basically mining becomes more interesting toward the end of the cycle while PoS has fixed reward (the last three digits of the block number gives you the reward: block 112002 will give a 0.01 reward)


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Post by: gexain on December 30, 2015, 09:52:19 PM
thanks you for your clear explanation :)


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Post by: coinhugger on December 31, 2015, 04:08:23 AM
Swing blockchain is fucked?

Bittrex deactivated wallet due to broken blockchain. Fork happened?

I may have lost 1000 Swing... :(



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Post by: murderouskirk on January 01, 2016, 12:40:59 AM
Swing blockchain is fucked?

Bittrex deactivated wallet due to broken blockchain. Fork happened?

I may have lost 1000 Swing... :(



Looks like they turned it back on after a few hours.


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Post by: coinhugger on January 01, 2016, 05:58:07 AM
Swing blockchain is fucked?

Bittrex deactivated wallet due to broken blockchain. Fork happened?

I may have lost 1000 Swing... :(



Looks like they turned it back on after a few hours.

Yep, things back to normal now and my 1000 swing showed up in the balance.



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Post by: zazarb on January 01, 2016, 11:26:44 AM
The weird thing I've noticed, my wallet full sunc, but last block 113226, (when in blocks explorer show already 113784)
and other thing- staking gnerated  every 10-20min ,( since new year over 40 time!) but  not visible in block explorer ,
example :
Status: 255 confirmations, broadcast through 4 node(s)
Date: 2016.01.01 01:52
Source: Generated
Credit: 9.73 SWING
Net amount: +9.73 SWING
Transaction ID: 0900a31632a4d4a57669a241fdfef31f547e9408e0ce6cfc44df979c70690099

or

Status: 258 confirmations, broadcast through 8 node(s)
Date: 2016.01.01 01:48
Source: Generated
Credit: 9.70 SWING
Net amount: +9.70 SWING
Transaction ID: 437296c269ff93eff93c8fdbb7111a09a3ebe96d6353bc81010fb12266b55f6c



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Post by: murderouskirk on January 03, 2016, 01:20:13 AM
The weird thing I've noticed, my wallet full sunc, but last block 113226, (when in blocks explorer show already 113784)
and other thing- staking gnerated  every 10-20min ,( since new year over 40 time!) but  not visible in block explorer ,
example :
Status: 255 confirmations, broadcast through 4 node(s)
Date: 2016.01.01 01:52
Source: Generated
Credit: 9.73 SWING
Net amount: +9.73 SWING
Transaction ID: 0900a31632a4d4a57669a241fdfef31f547e9408e0ce6cfc44df979c70690099

or

Status: 258 confirmations, broadcast through 8 node(s)
Date: 2016.01.01 01:48
Source: Generated
Credit: 9.70 SWING
Net amount: +9.70 SWING
Transaction ID: 437296c269ff93eff93c8fdbb7111a09a3ebe96d6353bc81010fb12266b55f6c



Try this. If it doesn't work you'll probably need to redownload the blockchain. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Quote
For GUI users:

(At least in windows)

You will not have the "Target" field in the Swing.exe properties.

To rescan:

Right click and drag/drop Swing.exe -> Make shortcut here
Right click shortcut -> properties
In the "Target" field you will see the path to Swing.exe.
make it say: C:\Directory\Swing.exe -rescan
Apply -> OK
Launch VIA shortcut.

Now when you startup Swing you have a regular launcher and a launcher that rescans. (It will happen during the splash screen and will take a while. Mine hasn't finished yet so I'm not sure what to expect when it finishes.)


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Post by: micle222 on January 12, 2016, 06:33:38 AM
The weird thing I've noticed, my wallet full sunc, but last block 113226, (when in blocks explorer show already 113784)
and other thing- staking gnerated  every 10-20min ,( since new year over 40 time!) but  not visible in block explorer ,
example :
Status: 255 confirmations, broadcast through 4 node(s)
Date: 2016.01.01 01:52
Source: Generated
Credit: 9.73 SWING
Net amount: +9.73 SWING
Transaction ID: 0900a31632a4d4a57669a241fdfef31f547e9408e0ce6cfc44df979c70690099

or

Status: 258 confirmations, broadcast through 8 node(s)
Date: 2016.01.01 01:48
Source: Generated
Credit: 9.70 SWING
Net amount: +9.70 SWING
Transaction ID: 437296c269ff93eff93c8fdbb7111a09a3ebe96d6353bc81010fb12266b55f6c



Try this. If it doesn't work you'll probably need to redownload the blockchain. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Quote
For GUI users:

(At least in windows)

You will not have the "Target" field in the Swing.exe properties.

To rescan:

Right click and drag/drop Swing.exe -> Make shortcut here
Right click shortcut -> properties
In the "Target" field you will see the path to Swing.exe.
make it say: C:\Directory\Swing.exe -rescan
Apply -> OK
Launch VIA shortcut.

Now when you startup Swing you have a regular launcher and a launcher that rescans. (It will happen during the splash screen and will take a while. Mine hasn't finished yet so I'm not sure what to expect when it finishes.)


No updates of Dev ???


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 17, 2016, 06:38:51 AM
Dev here. My account has been hacked and is being used to scam people. Please negative report it to warm them. Bct is awful about account recovery so I highly doubt I'll ever get it back. They tend to side with the hackers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182223


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182223;sa=showPosts

Sorry for the delayed response and general quietness lately. I've been getting more and more busy in my personal life and just haven't had much time to work on Swing. I'm still looking for devs, we really need more to thrive. I'd still like to make progress in swing and work on it if I can start getting more free time. Things are relatively stable and I'm content just staking for a while till I'm able to push the project forward. I'd like to stress that I'm still here and still have no plans on abandoning the project (almost my entire portfolio is made up of Swing, I have not been selling). I'm just busy as hell. Quite frankly I can't carry this project on my shoulders alone as I've been saying from the start. Plus I'm getting pretty tired of being a target. That's something I wasn't expecting when I started the coin dev hobby. People breaking into my accounts.. infecting my home machines.. shit like that that just gets worse the more attention the project gets. I can honestly say the swing community has given me hope, but as a whole the altcoin scene can be so damn toxic yikes.  :-\


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Post by: shapetwist on January 17, 2016, 09:10:08 PM
Dev here. My account has been hacked and is being used to scam people. Please negative report it to warm them. Bct is awful about account recovery so I highly doubt I'll ever get it back. They tend to side with the hackers.

Hey, how has this happened?
Any news on getting your account back?


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 18, 2016, 12:38:56 AM
Dev here. My account has been hacked and is being used to scam people. Please negative report it to warm them. Bct is awful about account recovery so I highly doubt I'll ever get it back. They tend to side with the hackers.

Hey, how has this happened?
Any news on getting your account back?

Not sure. I just suddenly had no access. They probably got into my email or phished my password. Hopefully they didn't keylog etc.. me.

Altcoin4life has control over my account as it was used as collateral for a loan. He's pming me asking for proof that it's mine. I'm about to reply and see if I can convince him.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: zazarb on January 18, 2016, 12:41:39 AM
Dev here. My account has been hacked and is being used to scam people. Please negative report it to warm them. Bct is awful about account recovery so I highly doubt I'll ever get it back. They tend to side with the hackers.

Hey, how has this happened?
Any news on getting your account back?

Not sure. I just suddenly had no access. They probably got into my email or phished my password. Hopefully they didn't keylog etc.. me.

Altcoin4life has control over my account as it was used as collateral for a loan. He's pming me asking for proof that it's mine. I'm about to reply and see if I can convince him.
if you can sign message  with old btc address, you can easy recover account control: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 18, 2016, 01:00:07 AM
Dev here. My account has been hacked and is being used to scam people. Please negative report it to warm them. Bct is awful about account recovery so I highly doubt I'll ever get it back. They tend to side with the hackers.

Hey, how has this happened?
Any news on getting your account back?

Not sure. I just suddenly had no access. They probably got into my email or phished my password. Hopefully they didn't keylog etc.. me.

Altcoin4life has control over my account as it was used as collateral for a loan. He's pming me asking for proof that it's mine. I'm about to reply and see if I can convince him.
if you can sign message  with old btc address, you can easy recover account control: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

I'll deal with the guy that has access before I bother with that.

I know people who have repeatedly tried to recover their accounts with signed messages and just gotten their requests completely ignored. I'd rather not dig through thousands of posts in an effort to find an addy I still have access to just to get ignored by theymos or whoever. I appreciate the link though.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: fitinplace on January 19, 2016, 04:55:17 AM
i may have missed this information about SWING but i was wondering what the target block interval?  or seconds inbetween blocks found?  ty


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Post by: SwingDev on January 19, 2016, 07:17:01 PM
i may have missed this information about SWING but i was wondering what the target block interval?  or seconds inbetween blocks found?  ty

When I built it I coded it to be 500 blocks per 24 hrs. Interestingly enough it turned out to be double and is now 1000 blocks per 24 hrs. This actually worked out better in the long run. If I recall correctly it was set to 3.5 minutes per block so.. 1.75 minutes per block? Somewhere around there. Blocks usually take 1 - 3 minutes, but it speeds up and slows down based on both net hashrate and stake weight. Sometimes it's faster. Sometimes it's slower.


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Post by: CapnBDL on January 19, 2016, 08:45:44 PM
I am gonna ask the question SOME ppl are afraid to ask; What do I do, if I didn't keep up with the old GE thread and now I have this GE I can't swap or trade? Suggestions? I would like to get on-board with SWING, but didn't keep up.

CapnBDL
     8)


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Post by: zazarb on January 19, 2016, 09:52:39 PM
My wallet have above 30 address(all with coins),
 but chainz.cryptoid in richlist show - Guesstimated Wallet only 3 address ???


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Post by: SwingDev on January 19, 2016, 10:13:57 PM
My wallet have above 30 address(all with coins),
 but chainz.cryptoid in richlist show - Guesstimated Wallet only 3 address ???

It's a guesstimate. It will struggle to pick out all your addresses unless you send out coins and it seeing the source of a transaction coming from multiple addresses.

I am gonna ask the question SOME ppl are afraid to ask; What do I do, if I didn't keep up with the old GE thread and now I have this GE I can't swap or trade? Suggestions? I would like to get on-board with SWING, but didn't keep up.

CapnBDL
     8)

Unfortunately the swap ended months ago. I left the official swap open for a month and then proceeded to swap a few of the stragglers for a couple months after that with my own holdings. Sadly I'm not in a strong enough position to do that anymore as people have been minting new GE continuously. If you still have GE that means you are invested in Greed Evolved and need to convert your position if you want to trade in Swing. The GE market is still open on yobit and honestly pretty inactive, but still technically alive as well as the thread I believe. Sorry about this, I know it's frustrating. Altcoin investments aren't really a good thing to ignore for months on end though. Things can change very quickly while you're away.


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Post by: fitinplace on January 20, 2016, 12:05:12 AM
i may have missed this information about SWING but i was wondering what the target block interval?  or seconds inbetween blocks found?  ty

When I built it I coded it to be 500 blocks per 24 hrs. Interestingly enough it turned out to be double and is now 1000 blocks per 24 hrs. This actually worked out better in the long run. If I recall correctly it was set to 3.5 minutes per block so.. 1.75 minutes per block? Somewhere around there. Blocks usually take 1 - 3 minutes, but it speeds up and slows down based on both net hashrate and stake weight. Sometimes it's faster. Sometimes it's slower.

Thank you very much SWING dev!  Keep Swinging!!!!  ***SWING***


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Post by: SwingDev on January 22, 2016, 05:34:09 AM
Alright, I managed to find a posted btc address from coinbase. Fortunately coinbase lets you sign your addresses. I've started the recovery process with Theymos and am waiting to hear back.

Altcoin4life has yet to agree to return my account.

If I'm able to recover my account I will write up a summary of events and post a link in the ANN to help alleviate any impact my accounts now negtive rep might cause Swing. I will also put a rep link from this account, and links in the footer / under profile pic. After I will begin contacting users that negative rep'd the stolen account, thanks them, and see if I can get the rep fixed.


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Post by: gregofdoom on January 22, 2016, 11:01:40 PM
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed :)


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Post by: SwingDev on January 23, 2016, 01:53:24 AM
I'm quoting the ann just to back it up on this account.

Please Trade Responsibly

http://i.imgur.com/vh4mavv.png
http://i.imgur.com/b3IKQx9.png (http://tryswing.com/)
http://i.imgur.com/8fAEOe8.png
http://i.imgur.com/LI4YYM5.png (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)
Windows Wallet
Download Here (Official Release) (https://mega.nz/#!aMwDVBCB!Ejd1ttan_P_NzBU7fvfIbjdbgA6Z8pQfDQrt9SVXOZI)
Q: Mac Wallet?
Download Here (Community Made) (https://mega.nz/#!9BYVxSAb!8SEo27Efo3rYiMtQBgdCg0agk2L9BTLKVoDcsoPvQ5E)
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~All Explorers / Rich Lists~
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/#
http://cryptobe.com/chain/Swing
http://i.imgur.com/gDUo7xS.png (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING)
~All Exchanges~
https://yobit.net/en/trade/SWING/BTC
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING
~Extended Swing Charts~
http://altcoinlive.com/bittrex-swing-btc
http://altcoinlive.com/yo[Suspicious link removed]-btc
http://i.imgur.com/JMvkZGM.png (https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/)
http://i.imgur.com/OPD3QS0.png (https://www.suchpool.pw/swing/)
~MultiPools~
www.zpool.ca
Quote
-o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:PORT -u SWING_WALLET_ADDRESS -p xx
~Other Pools~
https://www.suchpool.pw/swing/
https://coinking.io/
http://www.xpool.ca/
http://altminers.com
]TekyBoy Mining Pool (http://[Suspicious link removed)
Run a pool? Add swing and let us know so I can list it here!
http://i.imgur.com/fYFHVS7.png

Q: Who is the dev?
What's up! I'm _Crypto. I've got a few handles that I go by. On bitcointalk I'm MurderousKirk. In IRC I'm _Crypto. In slack I'm IAm_Crypto. On twitter I'm @CryptoPumpInfo (https://twitter.com/cryptopumpinfo), where I'm known for occasionally pointing out blatant pump and dumps still in the accumulation stage. I run the cryptocommunity slack group where 545+ users have sighed up and chat / lurk daily. The only coins I have made prior to this are Greed and GE.

Q: What is the max supply?
40 mil. But it will take quite some time to reach that.

Q: How can I get in contact with you?
The fastest way to reach me is with a DM on slack or twitter.

Q: How can I figure out what reward to expect?
So basically, POS rewards = 1% of the last 3 digits of the block count.
POW is the same, only there is a multiplier. It's factored by taking the number in the thousandth place and multiplying it by 10, and the result is the percentage of POS miners get.
I need to come up with a way to explain it better but the chart should help.
So for example, on block 8532:
POS reward = 5.32
POW reward = 80% of 5.32 = 4.256
The only deviation is when the thousandth place is 0. Rather than have miners earn nothing they earn 100%.

Q: What is HiPos?
It's not very well documented, but from what I've gathered the only difference between HiPos and POS is that in HiPos your weight does not stop building after it hits your coin count. So if you have 10 coins and keep them offline for months, when you come back you will have 10 weight in POS coins, and more weight in HiPos that allows you to help get your fair share that you missed. HiPos also allows for some strategic locking and unlocking that was more relevant in Greed and GE than Swing.

Q: How long does it take my coins to mature and start staking?
About five minutes. (Unless you have a really small amount, then it might take longer.)

I'll add more info here as questions are asked.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 23, 2016, 02:21:06 AM
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed :)

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on January 23, 2016, 02:03:39 PM
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed :)

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 23, 2016, 07:33:54 PM
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed :)

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.

You I was able to send him a signed message for a BTC addy fortunately. Guess I just have to wait and see.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: CapnBDL on January 23, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
HI,

OK...I guess I am stuck with the GE in this wallet. Just under 86k, which isn't much but I could have at least had something to get me going with SWING. YoBits wallet is STILL under maint., which means I can't even sell it. Or course, the market for GE is dead anyway. I suppose I just won't be saving any SWING.

Good Luck,

CapnBDL
     8)


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Post by: glavos on January 25, 2016, 01:37:02 PM
Any news ?


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Post by: danosphere on January 25, 2016, 01:41:24 PM
Checked wallet which has been staking fine this AM to find the dreaded (out of sync) message. I am still connected to the network with 11 peers but wallet is showing out of sync, anyone else seeing this? is the network ok? Using wallet v1.0.0.1-g32a928e


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: Fallout4 on January 26, 2016, 12:56:40 AM
Checked wallet which has been staking fine this AM to find the dreaded (out of sync) message. I am still connected to the network with 11 peers but wallet is showing out of sync, anyone else seeing this? is the network ok? Using wallet v1.0.0.1-g32a928e

Yeah same here, unfortunately.


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Post by: zazarb on January 26, 2016, 03:31:52 PM
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed :)

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.

You I was able to send him a signed message for a BTC addy fortunately. Guess I just have to wait and see.
check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1341680.0
did you real not have staked btc address?


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Post by: SwingDev on January 26, 2016, 10:51:53 PM
We hope that soon you will regain your account and Swing moves forward.
A few months ago, I also had the same problem.
It lasted more than a month before I regained account.

Fingers crossed :)

Thanks!

Did Theymos recover it? I've heard repeatedly he ignores almost all messages.


I sent a few notifications, and besides, intercede for me people known in the crypto and
Theymos was so gracious, that restored my account.

In your profile, you should have your address BTC is a very facilitate the recovery of your account.

You I was able to send him a signed message for a BTC addy fortunately. Guess I just have to wait and see.
check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1341680.0
did you real not have staked btc address?

Hey, thanks for the link. He made two posts and the discussion is going on HERE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1341682.new#new

I managed to find a signable address, I didn't bother to look at the start because he seemed willing to help and I didn't feel like digging though 100's of posts. All is explained in my response.

Also, to those out of sync. You will need to re-download the blockchain or switch to linux to avoid the issue. This is the result of some rounding issues in the reward code. I'd like to fix it when I get the chance but am currently very busy. Plus I'm pretty focused on this whole stolen account crap. This coin is in need of more devs for updates to happen faster. Till then re-downloading the chain and using linux is the best solution.


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Post by: SwingDev on January 27, 2016, 04:35:05 AM
Altcoin4life has decided to try to sell me my stolen account back. I'm going to try my luck with Theymos for a while.

And I do intend to pass some BTC towards Altcoin4life for the recovery should my portfolio ever grow again. His loss prevented my entire community from malicious attacks via impersonation and evil edits. It's also potentially led to the recovery of my account. Currently I have less than 0.1 liquid btc to trade with sadly. For now the best I can do is give him favorable feedback.

Hi Swingdev

THANKS FOR FINALLY SIGNING A MESSAGE PROVING YOU ARE THE REAL OWNER OF THE ACCOUNT!

I asked for this message a long time ago.... we could have saved a lot of time and hassle if you just gave me proof of signed message 1 week ago!

I know you have sent a report to theymos BUT this will probably take time to get your account back.

Now as you know i have lost 0.13 BTC from this defaulted loan that has now turned out to be hacked. This collateral has neg trust and is of no use to me at all. you say it has use to you as the dev account.

WE BOTH MADE ERRORS.

YOU made errors by:

1 - Not securing the murderouskirk account properly with a secure password... or other malware etc

2- Not posting a scam accusation on this forum immediately after you realised.

I MADE ERRORS by:

not getting a staked address from an old post on this forum. Accepting the thief's story and transferring coins.

As we both made errors i believe it is best you make a partial transfer to me for my loss BEFORE I PM YOU THE PASSWORD.

I believe you have a part to blame as you made errors with securing the original account  by being hacked.

ALSO AS YOU SAY THIS IS A DEV ACCOUNT YOU WILL PROBABLY USE MURDEROUSKIRK TO EARN SOMETHING IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH YOUR RELATED ALT COINS YOU DEVELOP.... SO YOU WILL BENEFIT FINANCIALLY ....WHILE I HAVE A LOSS.

Please tell me by pm how much can you pay me as a partial payment that his FAIR FOR BOTH OF US?

Let me know by pm

Thanks
Altcoin4life



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Post by: gregofdoom on January 27, 2016, 01:42:55 PM
SwingDev ( MURDEROUSKIRK ), Too bad nerves, please tell me your address BTC, it will send you 0.05BTC.

Pay this guy and finish the case.

Personally, I think it's not fair to require money for the situation.


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Post by: BluRPie on January 27, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
SwingDev ( MURDEROUSKIRK ), Too bad nerves, please tell me your address BTC, it will send you 0.05BTC.

Pay this guy and finish the case.

Personally, I think it's not fair to require money for the situation.

Paying now results in getting hacked once again in the furture. I personally wouldnt pay anything. With his "we both made errors"... Once a thief, always a thief.

but thats my 50 cents...

the best way for him to make a profit out of it, is to hand over the account, invest in SWING and let the dev works his magic...


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Post by: gregofdoom on January 27, 2016, 06:55:59 PM
He's a lot of work put into building his image ..
This is his identity.
I know what it means because I also lost my account for over a month.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 28, 2016, 01:14:04 AM
The support from you guys never ceases to amaze me. The swing community really is a breath of fresh air.

While I immensely appreciate the offer to help me buy my account back from this guy, I simply cannot place the burden of this on you guys. Nor can I publicly comply with buying my stolen property back. Doing so would make me an even bigger target for future theft.

If you want to understand my logic behind not buying the account you can go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1341677.msg13698992#msg13698992

I'm predominately a web marketing guy. I haven't been shy about this fact. Part of my experience in web marketing has taught me to look for the silver lining and act upon it. You can always polish a turd, and a polished turd is more valuable than no turd at all (http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/polishing-a-turd-minimyth/). As far as stolen accounts go we've honestly hit it pretty good.

Let me explain. This is how I see our current situation.

A: While I do not have access to the developer account and my years of effort in it, we know exactly where it is. It's being held by Altcoin4Life  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345352) who has a pretty clean rep. He has not logged into MurderousKirk  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=182223)since the 14th. We can see if it's active or being held dormant and safe and we know who's behind it. The swing ANN has not been edited since August 28, 2015, and should any changes be made to it without my permission, we know who's responsible.

B: As messed up as it is, small altcoins survive and thrive on drama. The longer Altcoin4Life  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345352) refuses to return my account, the more attention swing gets. Don't believe me? Just look at the buy support on bittrex that wasn't there till my account got stolen. The larger holders have been doing nothing but stockpiling on the drama.

C: I've proven that my account was stolen and that this account is the real dev. It's there for everyone to see. Should any changes be made to this thread I can just start a new one (possibly on a more secure forum) and move on.

D: If I feel like it I can make a nice video report / instructional video on how to secure your account and be sure you don't suffer the same fate as the Swing developer did. Yay free promotional topics!

E: Theymos still might return my account.

This is genuinely nothing but free advertising at this point guys. While it kinda sucks that I lost my account, I'm happy polishing the turd for a while if it means adding a few sparks to Swing.

Anyway.. I'm just digging for a silver lining here.


If anyone wants to follow the full conversation on this topic, here's my scam accusation thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1343710


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Post by: SwingDev on January 28, 2016, 09:50:56 PM
Well, Altcoin4Life (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345352) flat out refused to return the account without payment. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1343710.msg13707557#msg13707557)

Looks like I'm not getting it back. I'm going to work on moving this thread to a less toxic forum. If you want to encourage him to return it still you guys are pretty equipped to leave him rep and make posts at this point. Shame his greed is getting in the way this badly.

It should be noted than any positive rep this account gains will negatively impact Altcoin4Life's loan business and pressure him into returning the account.

So.. I might do some REP farming.

I'm going to look for a more secure forum to make our thread in.


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Post by: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 11:05:56 PM
Well, Altcoin4Life (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345352) flat out refused to return the account without payment. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1343710.msg13707557#msg13707557)

Looks like I'm not getting it back. I'm going to work on moving this thread to a less toxic forum. If you want to encourage him to return it still you guys are pretty equipped to leave him rep and make posts at this point. Shame his greed is getting in the way this badly.

It should be noted than any positive rep this account gains will negatively impact Altcoin4Life's loan business and pressure him into returning the account.

So.. I might do some REP farming.

I'm going to look for a more secure forum to make our thread in.

Hi Swingdev

OK i have made a decision. I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG.

THEYMOS WILL PROBABLY TAKE A LONG TIME AS IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS NOT RESPONDING.


I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS

1) WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO PAY SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO ME = YOU MAKE A POST ON THIS FORUM - STATING HOW MUCH YOU PAID - WITH PROOF TO MY ADDRESS 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THIS I WILL REPLY CONFIRMING TO EVERYONE I HAVE RECEIVED SOMETHING

2) YOU PM AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING USERS TO REMOVE THEIR NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, THEY SHOULD CONFIRM THEY WILL REMOVE THEIR FEEDBACK.

Blazed
suchmoon
Lutpin
Timelord2067

SwingDev

THEY SHOULD IDEALLY POST ON THIS THREAD CONFIRMING THEY HAVE DELETED FEEDBACK.

ONLY ONCE HAVE THEY DONE THIS I WILL GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT BACK.

I WILL PM YOU AFTER, IF I DO NOT RETURN IT ASAP THEY CAN AGAIN LEAVE ME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR GOING BACK ON MY WORD.


So then Swingdev, let me know if you agree and hopefully this issue will be solved.

Thanks
Altcoin4life


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 29, 2016, 11:52:48 PM
Posting since relevant.

You'll forgive us if we don't pity you for stressing out over something so inconsequential as a message board account. Your arrogance is not a good trait in this scenario, someone else has lost money because of your incompetence and you want to walk away for free. This is your fault at the end of the day, at the least you did not use a secure password on your account and at the worst you have stolen a loan.

There are two options that I can see: You pay altcoin half of what he lost to have the account returned or have the account returned for free, but receive a tsunami of negative rep making it useless.

Insults aside, the fact that you see a compromised developer account with download links and such being pushed to users of this forum as inconsequential says a lot about you. I don't care about the account this is not why I'm stressed. I'm stressed because I want to be sure the developer account doesn't start passing out infected links in the future.

SwingDev

I can only take you at your word your account was hacked.  If it transpires later on you loaned / sold / gave away / borrowed to another / left your account open at a cyber cafe and walked away / took a dive / or some other thing that wasn't having your account hacked, I won't be very impressed with you.

I wouldn't be very impressed either but I didn't do those things. Somone managed to get my password or recover my account through other means. That's what happened.



Altcoin4Life, I have no power over other people's rep reports. I probably wont be able to get them to remove the rep on either of our accounts.

I will update my rep to positive on your account, I will give you the little BTC I have, and if I manage to get more BTC I will try to send more your way. I would have like to send half immediately upon return but unfortunately I don't have that much BTC atm.

To be frank at this point I'd be just as happy with you helping me link the old thread to a new one and destroying access to the account. My only concern in this matter is the security risk to my holders. If it was "something so inconsequential as a message board account" as fortify over here says I would have given up long ago.

Hi Swing

OK if you do find you can transfer some money that would be good in the future some time.

THERE IS NO SECURITY RISK AT ALL OF ME SENDING MALICIOUS LINKS TO ANY OF YOUR COIN HOLDERS ...0% RISK.... IMPOSSIBLE


DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT I HAVE NOT EVEN LOGGED IN TO MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT  SINCE 14 JANUARY??

MURDEROUSKIRK
Last Active:   14 January 2016, 22:45:01



OK please remove your feedback, i will also remove my negative as well.

Once you have done this let me know.


Let me know

Thanks
Altcoin4life



Done.

Also I just meant that it'd be at risk if you decided to sell it to recover your losses.

I did not mean to imply you would try to infect my community my apologies.

Once you return the account I will be sure to post positive rep from both SwingDev and MurderousKirk.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: Altcoin4life on January 30, 2016, 12:29:50 AM
Posting since relevant.

You'll forgive us if we don't pity you for stressing out over something so inconsequential as a message board account. Your arrogance is not a good trait in this scenario, someone else has lost money because of your incompetence and you want to walk away for free. This is your fault at the end of the day, at the least you did not use a secure password on your account and at the worst you have stolen a loan.

There are two options that I can see: You pay altcoin half of what he lost to have the account returned or have the account returned for free, but receive a tsunami of negative rep making it useless.

Insults aside, the fact that you see a compromised developer account with download links and such being pushed to users of this forum as inconsequential says a lot about you. I don't care about the account this is not why I'm stressed. I'm stressed because I want to be sure the developer account doesn't start passing out infected links in the future.

SwingDev

I can only take you at your word your account was hacked.  If it transpires later on you loaned / sold / gave away / borrowed to another / left your account open at a cyber cafe and walked away / took a dive / or some other thing that wasn't having your account hacked, I won't be very impressed with you.

I wouldn't be very impressed either but I didn't do those things. Somone managed to get my password or recover my account through other means. That's what happened.



Altcoin4Life, I have no power over other people's rep reports. I probably wont be able to get them to remove the rep on either of our accounts.

I will update my rep to positive on your account, I will give you the little BTC I have, and if I manage to get more BTC I will try to send more your way. I would have like to send half immediately upon return but unfortunately I don't have that much BTC atm.

To be frank at this point I'd be just as happy with you helping me link the old thread to a new one and destroying access to the account. My only concern in this matter is the security risk to my holders. If it was "something so inconsequential as a message board account" as fortify over here says I would have given up long ago.

Hi Swing

OK if you do find you can transfer some money that would be good in the future some time.

THERE IS NO SECURITY RISK AT ALL OF ME SENDING MALICIOUS LINKS TO ANY OF YOUR COIN HOLDERS ...0% RISK.... IMPOSSIBLE


DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT I HAVE NOT EVEN LOGGED IN TO MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT  SINCE 14 JANUARY??

MURDEROUSKIRK
Last Active:   14 January 2016, 22:45:01



OK please remove your feedback, i will also remove my negative as well.

Once you have done this let me know.


Let me know

Thanks
Altcoin4life



Done.

Also I just meant that it'd be at risk if you decided to sell it to recover your losses.

I did not mean to imply you would try to infect my community my apologies.

Once you return the account I will be sure to post positive rep from both SwingDev and MurderousKirk.



OK thanks

I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THIS ACCOUNT.

ALSO ONCE YOU GET YOUR ACCOUNT BACK YOU CAN CONTACT THE USERS THAT LEFT MURDEROUSKIRK NEG TRUST TO CONFIRM YOU HAVE GOT YOUR ACCOUNT BACK AND CAN THEY PLEASE REMOVE THEIR NEG TRUST THEY LEFT KIRK.

I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK TO YOU, PLEASE WAIT.

ONCE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE ACCOUNT PLEASE POST HERE AS WELL AS YOUR DEV THREAD CONFIRMING THE ACCOUNT HAS BEEN RETURNED TO YOU SO THAT THE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN YOUR SWINGCOIN WILL KNOW.

Thanks
Altcoin4life


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: SwingDev on January 30, 2016, 07:50:25 AM
Still waiting on the return guys. Will let you all know if / when I get it.


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Post by: Altcoin4life on January 31, 2016, 03:38:05 AM
Still waiting on the return guys. Will let you all know if / when I get it.

Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your post.

THIS IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL ONLY GIVE YOUR PASSWORD AND ACCOUNT BACK BY PM TO SWINGDEV ACCOUNT AS THIS IS THE ACCOUNT THAT PROVIDED THE SIGNED MESSAGE.

YOU REQUESTED I SHOULD EMAIL IT, BUT I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

YOU WILL NOW RECEIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK BY PM TO SWINGDEV.


I agree with you that you have no control over others leaving me negative or even neutral trust.

TO THE USERS SAYING WHO LEFT ME BAD FEEDBACK AND SAID I LIED ABOUT THE AMOUNT LOST, YES THIS WAS A MISTAKE, I WAS SIMPLY REFERENCING THE AMOUNT I LOST ORIGINALLY TO MURDEROUSKIRK SCAM.  THIS WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO SAY THAT YOU PERSONALLY SCAMMED ME OF 0.13 BTC, I WILL REMOVE THIS REFERENCE.


FINALLY SWINGDEV, ONCE YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE PM, PLEASE CHANGE THE EMAIL AND THE PASSWORD (PLEASE CHOOSE A LONG SECURE NEW PASSWORD) OF MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT ASAP.

FINALLY PLEASE MAKE A NEW SIGNED MESSAGE FROM THE ACCOUNT SAYING IT HAS BEEN RETURNED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER FROM ME, PLEASE POST IT HERE.

YOU WILL RECEIVE A PM WITHIN 24 HOURS. PLEASE POST HERE CONFIRMING ACCOUNT HAS BEEN GIVEN BACK.



Many Thanks
Altcoin4life


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: Altcoin4life on January 31, 2016, 03:38:24 AM
Still waiting on the return guys. Will let you all know if / when I get it.

HI

I HAVE NOW SENT A PM TO SWINGDEV WITH THE PASSWORD FOR MURDEROUSKIRK.

PLEASE CAN SWINGDEV CONFIRM THEY HAVE SECURED IT ASAP.

THANKS
ALTCOIN4LIFE


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on January 31, 2016, 04:36:24 AM
Fuck yeah!

Securing account, then posting sig.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on January 31, 2016, 04:48:15 AM
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is murderouskirk posting from murderouskirk. Altcoin4Life has returned my account! 11:44PM EST 1/20/2016 - \o/ Hooray!
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71
H/tljcNY6VUWgEy7UB0S3m+hH24CNXCgnGByl81j/Oi6DFNJWGS7Y7Mfxr/9I66xLugx4kkpcxBieWvDDrPYbqc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Location of addy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164721.msg12788990#msg12788990



Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on January 31, 2016, 05:05:25 AM
Omg what a relief. I'll work on fixing the rep tomorrow.


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: gregofdoom on January 31, 2016, 07:59:20 AM
Welcome back murderouskirk  :)

Now the big days for SWING.


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Post by: glavos on January 31, 2016, 11:35:42 AM
Glad you sort this mess, and welcome back.


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Post by: murderouskirk on January 31, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
Thanks guys  ;D

Today I'm very busy.

I need to finish up the final round of applications for funding in a startup corporation I'm involved with. Once I get past this I'll try to do some more work with Swing.

Again, thank you all for your support.  ;D


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Post by: BluRPie on January 31, 2016, 07:07:14 PM
Welcome back :)



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Post by: DaMut on January 31, 2016, 07:19:24 PM
Thanks guys  ;D

Today I'm very busy.

I need to finish up the final round of applications for funding in a startup corporation I'm involved with. Once I get past this I'll try to do some more work with Swing.

Again, thank you all for your support.  ;D

Welcome back murderouskirk  :D

Swing need a good news to swing


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: danosphere on February 02, 2016, 03:41:12 PM
Thanks guys  ;D

Today I'm very busy.

I need to finish up the final round of applications for funding in a startup corporation I'm involved with. Once I get past this I'll try to do some more work with Swing.

Again, thank you all for your support.  ;D

Welcome back bro!


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: BluRPie on February 04, 2016, 09:14:27 PM
i need a dump.... come on guys.. sell some coins.

I love this coin


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: zazarb on February 06, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
wallet out of sync ???
last block 143000


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: coinhugger on February 06, 2016, 05:59:05 PM
wallet out of sync ???
last block 143000


The whole Swing network seems to be stuck at block 143000 for over 13 hours already at the time I'm posting this.

See Swing blockchain explorer:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/





Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: murderouskirk on February 07, 2016, 11:20:53 PM
Looks like it's back on track.

I've got a little more free time now. I'm going to resume looking into core upgrades and will try to post about progress.

The process looks like this

[✓] Identify problems
[✓] Identify potential solutions
[Partial] Code upgrades
[Partial] Test upgrades in simulation environments
[X] Work upgrade into core
[X] Test upgraded code across multiple clients
[X] Decide on fork method (hard or soft)
[X] Allow community to do a code-review of the proposed update
[X] Set fork date
[X] Notify Services and Exchanges
[X] Push new version


Title: Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex!
Post by: coinhugger on February 08, 2016, 02:33:40 AM
Looks like it's back on track.

I've got a little more free time now. I'm going to resume looking into core upgrades and will try to post about progress.

The process looks like this

[✓] Identify problems
[✓] Identify potential solutions
[Partial] Code upgrades
[Partial] Test upgrades in simulation environments
[X] Work upgrade into core
[X] Test upgraded code across multiple clients
[X] Decide on fork method (hard or soft)
[X] Allow community to do a code-review of the proposed update
[X] Set fork date
[X] Notify Services and Exchanges
[X] Push new version

Yep, it's working again... my wallet is staking now.

Awesome to hear about the new core upgrade roadmap.  What exactly is going to be changed or added to the core?



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Post by: murderouskirk on February 08, 2016, 04:00:01 AM
Looks like it's back on track.

I've got a little more free time now. I'm going to resume looking into core upgrades and will try to post about progress.

The process looks like this

[✓] Identify problems
[✓] Identify potential solutions
[Partial] Code upgrades
[Partial] Test upgrades in simulation environments
[X] Work upgrade into core
[X] Test upgraded code across multiple clients
[X] Decide on fork method (hard or soft)
[X] Allow community to do a code-review of the proposed update
[X] Set fork date
[X] Notify Services and Exchanges
[X] Push new version

Yep, it's working again... my wallet is staking now.

Awesome to hear about the new core upgrade roadmap.  What exactly is going to be changed or added to the core?



So basically the way it does the reward math is a little shitty and causes rounding errors. It sometimes results in weird reward output that can get rounded differently on different operating systems (causing disagreement across the network). Unfortunately I didn't do enough cross-platform testing pre-launch to identify this as a potential problem. The result is some users not on linux falling out of sync, and needing to re-download the chain occasionally. It's also probably the cause of blockchain freezes like we just experienced. I think we've had that happen twice now.

The fix is to clean up the math so it outputs clean amounts for every block reward, and doesn't leave it up to the operating system to decide how to finalize the numbers.

I'll be sure to put clear examples of any potential changes, showing the exact results that will change. I'll also show the code proposals so the more tech-savvy users can dissect and give feedback.

I think I made a post a while back that makes this a little clearer. I'll try to dig it up and quote.


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Post by: murderouskirk on February 08, 2016, 04:06:17 AM
Quote from: murderouskirk

Let me give some insight.

I've recently been digging into what happens with the rewards when they are calculated, and exactly what's going on when getting calculated.

With the current setup, that process looks something like this:

Note that the final reward amount is later formatted. So 975000000 would become 9.75000000

Code:
Block Count: 975 Last Three Digits: 975 Decimal: 9.75 Final:975000000

Block Count: 976 Last Three Digits: 976 Decimal: 9.76 Final:976000000

Block Count: 977 Last Three Digits: 977 Decimal: 9.77 Final:977000000

Block Count: 978 Last Three Digits: 978 Decimal: 9.78 Final:977999999.99999988079071044921875

Block Count: 979 Last Three Digits: 979 Decimal: 9.790000000000001 Final:979000000.00000011920928955078125

Block Count: 980 Last Three Digits: 980 Decimal: 9.8 Final:980000000.00000011920928955078125

Block Count: 981 Last Three Digits: 981 Decimal: 9.81 Final:981000000

Block Count: 982 Last Three Digits: 982 Decimal: 9.82 Final:982000000

Block Count: 983 Last Three Digits: 983 Decimal: 9.83 Final:983000000

Block Count: 984 Last Three Digits: 984 Decimal: 9.84 Final:984000000

Block Count: 985 Last Three Digits: 985 Decimal: 9.85 Final:985000000

Block Count: 986 Last Three Digits: 986 Decimal: 9.86 Final:986000000

Block Count: 987 Last Three Digits: 987 Decimal: 9.870000000000001 Final:987000000.00000011920928955078125

Block Count: 988 Last Three Digits: 988 Decimal: 9.88 Final:988000000.00000011920928955078125

HERE is the section of code that spits this out. I just used block 1 - 999 as sample output. (https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1047) For the sake of clarity i re-coded the process in java for faster debugging. (im just better at java is all, but java may produce slightly different results is the point)

So what I discovered is that somewhere else in the code the decimal is inserted into a full number with 9+ digits.
The end result in this section of code that gets passed out looks something like '9.87 * COIN' (=987000000).

Me attempting to put in the decimal during the reward calculation instead of letting it do it after results in some unnecessary math. Math that doesn't always turn out clean, and leaves room to lose accuracy when clipping/rounding the final result to a full number.

We need to re-code this section so results like this:

Block Count: 987 Last Three Digits: 987 Decimal: 9.870000000000001 Final:987000000.00000011920928955078125

Instead act like this:

Block Count: 987 Last Three Digits: 987 Final:987000000


Now, this is an example of POS. POW gets a little more challenging since rewards need to be multiplied by 10%.. 20%.. 30%.. etc.. But I'm working on doing that cleanly too.

But that's essentially where we have room for core upgrades and cleaning up the internal math for increased accuracy.

So that should give you guys a little better idea at what I've been looking at.

Will post more later as I make progress.


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Post by: murderouskirk on February 08, 2016, 04:21:33 AM
So traditionally when writing the rewards code in an altcoin it looks like this

@Blocks X - Z:

reward = indendedOutput * Coin

intendedOutput=number you want to be rewarded for that block
Coin is usually dismissed and not thought about.

After we started having issues I dug into it and it turns out Coin is only used to format the rewards section in a more sensible manner.

Coin = 100000000 (adds 8 0's to your coin amount)

So, if we want a reward of 1 coin:

reward = 1 * Coin

But in reality this pushes 100000000, which is sent to be formatted and turns into 1.00000000

So when I tried to do something like:

9.87 * coin, we get issues. Functions like this are only accurate to a certain decimal place in programming.

Instead of 987000000, we get 987000000.00000011920928955078125

While most operating systems would round this particular example to 987000000 automatically, not all results &or operating systems round so cleanly.

So rounding errors like this is some higher (lower?) level computer science voodoo that I honestly wasn't aware of, and didn't show up in my testing.

It can be fixed, but that's the biggest issue facing swing currently.

(On a side note, most altcoins forking issues are caused by this. Lots of devs never figure out the cause and it's killed tons of coins.)

Fortunately I learned of rounding errors thanks to the dev lounge in my slack group, and had a computer based PHD student / friend help me dissect the code to see exactly where things were going wrong.

Also the resulting issues aren't too severe for us (yet). I don't think we are in much danger of catastrophic failure, just minor annoyances.



A side note, if you want to help with core development in Swing reach out to me!


More casually helping people holding Swing and a basic understanding of development = Faster / Better / Cooler upgrades.

Only know how to code? I'm happy to share core development basics. You don't have to understand the entire core to work on an altcoin.

If we want Swing to thrive, we need devs more than anything else.

I'll keep trying to make progress solo in the meantime.


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Post by: coinhugger on February 08, 2016, 05:27:25 AM
So traditionally when writing the rewards code in an altcoin it looks like this

@Blocks X - Z:

reward = indendedOutput * Coin

intendedOutput=number you want to be rewarded for that block
Coin is usually dismissed and not thought about.

After we started having issues I dug into it and it turns out Coin is only used to format the rewards section in a more sensible manner.

Coin = 100000000 (adds 8 0's to your coin amount)

So, if we want a reward of 1 coin:

reward = 1 * Coin

But in reality this pushes 100000000, which is sent to be formatted and turns into 1.00000000

So when I tried to do something like:

9.87 * coin, we get issues. Functions like this are only accurate to a certain decimal place in programming.

Instead of 987000000, we get 987000000.00000011920928955078125

While most operating systems would round this particular example to 987000000 automatically, not all results &or operating systems round so cleanly.

So rounding errors like this is some higher (lower?) level computer science voodoo that I honestly wasn't aware of, and didn't show up in my testing.

It can be fixed, but that's the biggest issue facing swing currently.

(On a side note, most altcoins forking issues are caused by this. Lots of devs never figure out the cause and it's killed tons of coins.)

Fortunately I learned of rounding errors thanks to the dev lounge in my slack group, and had a computer based PHD student / friend help me dissect the code to see exactly where things were going wrong.

Also the resulting issues aren't too severe for us (yet). I don't think we are in much danger of catastrophic failure, just minor annoyances.



A side note, if you want to help with core development in Swing reach out to me!


More casually helping people holding Swing and a basic understanding of development = Faster / Better / Cooler upgrades.

Only know how to code? I'm happy to share core development basics. You don't have to understand the entire core to work on an altcoin.

If we want Swing to thrive, we need devs more than anything else.

I'll keep trying to make progress solo in the meantime.


Ok, good. Thanks for the clarification. Looking forward to a bright future for Swing.



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Post by: Simss on February 13, 2016, 03:01:10 AM

still waiting on the date of profile update dev


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Post by: kheysha on February 15, 2016, 09:31:48 AM

whether fate will be the same as the coin iec ??? ??? ???


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Post by: coinhugger on February 15, 2016, 10:58:49 AM

whether fate will be the same as the coin iec ??? ??? ???

SWING coin is great the way it is already. It stakes very well and it is also holding its value very well. You can buy some from Bittrex or Cryptopia, put it in your wallet and it will start staking new coins for you daily.



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Post by: murderouskirk on February 16, 2016, 08:46:16 AM

still waiting on the date of profile update dev


whether fate will be the same as the coin iec ??? ??? ???

What? I don't follow sorry. Can you explain?


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Post by: teddyarisyanto on February 16, 2016, 09:39:01 AM

I expect the price will recover  :( :( :(


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Post by: murderouskirk on February 16, 2016, 10:18:23 PM

I expect the price will recover  :( :( :(

lol wait why :( :( :( is price increase a bad thing?   ???


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Post by: Simss on February 21, 2016, 06:01:25 AM

expect prices to 10k sat back again ??? ??? ???


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Post by: coinhugger on February 28, 2016, 11:18:15 AM
Swing coin is swinging nicely, I'm very happy with my investment I got to say, giving me a solid return every day. It's the only POS coin that has very stable price and brilliant inflation control because of the unique algorithm no other coin possesses. Thank you dev.



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Post by: gregofdoom on February 28, 2016, 12:07:13 PM
Swing coin is swinging nicely, I'm very happy with my investment I got to say, giving me a solid return every day. It's the only POS coin that has very stable price and brilliant inflation control because of the unique algorithm no other coin possesses. Thank you dev.



I agree fully.
As for the price, SWING already cheaper will not.
Coins is not enough, dev reliable and large community.
10k sat definitely we see  8)


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 04, 2016, 09:03:25 PM
Swing coin is swinging nicely, I'm very happy with my investment I got to say, giving me a solid return every day. It's the only POS coin that has very stable price and brilliant inflation control because of the unique algorithm no other coin possesses. Thank you dev.



I agree fully.
As for the price, SWING already cheaper will not.
Coins is not enough, dev reliable and large community.
10k sat definitely we see  8)

Yeah pretty much.

I usually don't like to talk price but I don't think 10k would be that difficult to achieve. We've seen a very strong floor and there's been plenty of accumulation time.

All it would take for Swing to go up a few thousand satoshis in value (or more) is someone deciding to move the price. Right now there's only 2.77 BTC worth of swing for sale between current price and 10k. A trader with an average sized wallet could move the floor up pretty easily.

People seem to be realizing this too judging by the recent price increases. It's getting harder to get Swing cheap I think.



On a related note, I've been working towards getting a small office / workstations for my startup business. When I'm able to achieve this I will have a nice environment setup specifically for working with blockchains. The benefits of that are pretty obvious, but to be clear it would allow me to build upgrades for swing and do testing a lot more effectively. We will find out in a few months if our submission for a $50k grant gets approved. Till then we're digging for smaller investors that might be able to help us pay for the work environment sooner and allow for prototyping to happen.

To be clear I am not asking for seed money from you guys, I'm dealing with standard investment avenues for now. Nor is the company based around Swing. However, it is blockchain based which would allow me to grow into a much better dev for Swing. I just wanted to give you guys a feel for where my focus has been lately, and how that focus ties back into Swing.

Slow and steady wins the race.


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Post by: Mohareb on March 05, 2016, 01:54:27 AM
Swing coin is swinging nicely, I'm very happy with my investment I got to say, giving me a solid return every day. It's the only POS coin that has very stable price and brilliant inflation control because of the unique algorithm no other coin possesses. Thank you dev.



What does you mean about unique algorithm? SAh256 is not Unique. beside algorithm at POS phase is not important and has not any influence on earning.


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 05, 2016, 02:25:55 AM
Swing coin is swinging nicely, I'm very happy with my investment I got to say, giving me a solid return every day. It's the only POS coin that has very stable price and brilliant inflation control because of the unique algorithm no other coin possesses. Thank you dev.



What does you mean about unique algorithm? SAh256 is not Unique. beside algorithm at POS phase is not important and has not any influence on earning.

I think he meant the reward schema.


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Post by: opmac on March 07, 2016, 02:46:45 AM
Is this the latest window wallet for download?   v1.0.0.1

Thanks


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 07, 2016, 02:57:54 AM
Is this the latest window wallet for download?   v1.0.0.1

Thanks

Yup, that's it.


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Post by: opmac on March 07, 2016, 03:28:52 AM
Is there a working pool?

I do not want a multi pool


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 07, 2016, 04:17:45 AM
Is there a working pool?

I do not want a multi pool

Looking around it seems most have removed Swing. Solo mining, staking, and buying appear to be the best options currently.


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Post by: opmac on March 07, 2016, 01:13:29 PM
Is there a working pool?

I do not want a multi pool

Looking around it seems most have removed Swing. Solo mining, staking, and buying appear to be the best options currently.


Was able to find a pool last night. Directed miner towards it.

Thanks


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 07, 2016, 08:49:18 PM
Is there a working pool?

I do not want a multi pool

Looking around it seems most have removed Swing. Solo mining, staking, and buying appear to be the best options currently.


Was able to find a pool last night. Directed miner towards it.

Thanks

Nice! Which pool?


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 08, 2016, 12:28:12 AM
http://i.imgur.com/7hsoeuC.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/706999470442024961)



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Post by: cesmak on March 08, 2016, 02:54:20 PM
I downloaded last version of swing coin wallet for windows, why this wallet make a continuous upload stream of 400kb/s that saturated my (unfortunatelly low) upload bandwidth ?


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 08, 2016, 09:13:08 PM
I downloaded last version of swing coin wallet for windows, why this wallet make a continuous upload stream of 400kb/s that saturated my (unfortunatelly low) upload bandwidth ?

Honestly I don't know. Are you staking? Maybe locking the wallet will help? Try encrypting then keeping the wallet locked, you're staking until you do so.

It could also just be you uploading the blockchain to other peers, or passing on your peer list.

If it was constant while you were checking I would guess either you were staking or uploading the blockchain to someone else.


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 08, 2016, 11:54:42 PM
You could always consider setting up a linux vps to stake all your coins on if you have that limited of bandwith. Digitalocean works well and is pretty cheap, among other options. If interested I can give you some info on that.


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Post by: cesmak on March 09, 2016, 07:45:32 AM
I downloaded last version of swing coin wallet for windows, why this wallet make a continuous upload stream of 400kb/s that saturated my (unfortunatelly low) upload bandwidth ?

Honestly I don't know. Are you staking? Maybe locking the wallet will help? Try encrypting then keeping the wallet locked, you're staking until you do so.

It could also just be you uploading the blockchain to other peers, or passing on your peer list.

If it was constant while you were checking I would guess either you were staking or uploading the blockchain to someone else.

Yes the wallet is not encrypted and is staking, but i have others wallet with staking function, open 24/7 as this (DMD AntiBitcoin BeezeCoin IncaKoin) and no one of this wallets use such a big quantity of bandwidth....

I don't think that is peer blockchain transfer as i didn't configure it as a full node, not port forwarding for the wallet on my firewall, so only outgoing transactions active.


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 09, 2016, 11:28:23 AM
I downloaded last version of swing coin wallet for windows, why this wallet make a continuous upload stream of 400kb/s that saturated my (unfortunatelly low) upload bandwidth ?

Honestly I don't know. Are you staking? Maybe locking the wallet will help? Try encrypting then keeping the wallet locked, you're staking until you do so.

It could also just be you uploading the blockchain to other peers, or passing on your peer list.

If it was constant while you were checking I would guess either you were staking or uploading the blockchain to someone else.

Yes the wallet is not encrypted and is staking, but i have others wallet with staking function, open 24/7 as this (DMD AntiBitcoin BeezeCoin IncaKoin) and no one of this wallets use such a big quantity of bandwidth....

I don't think that is peer blockchain transfer as i didn't configure it as a full node, not port forwarding for the wallet on my firewall, so only outgoing transactions active.

If you can figure out what it's doing I'd be interested to know. I didn't really modify the wallet that much other than cosmetics. My additions are almost entirely reward schema, so I can't really say what it's doing other than those guesses.


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Post by: cesmak on March 09, 2016, 12:39:09 PM
I downloaded last version of swing coin wallet for windows, why this wallet make a continuous upload stream of 400kb/s that saturated my (unfortunatelly low) upload bandwidth ?

Honestly I don't know. Are you staking? Maybe locking the wallet will help? Try encrypting then keeping the wallet locked, you're staking until you do so.

It could also just be you uploading the blockchain to other peers, or passing on your peer list.

If it was constant while you were checking I would guess either you were staking or uploading the blockchain to someone else.

Yes the wallet is not encrypted and is staking, but i have others wallet with staking function, open 24/7 as this (DMD AntiBitcoin BeezeCoin IncaKoin) and no one of this wallets use such a big quantity of bandwidth....

I don't think that is peer blockchain transfer as i didn't configure it as a full node, not port forwarding for the wallet on my firewall, so only outgoing transactions active.

If you can figure out what it's doing I'd be interested to know. I didn't really modify the wallet that much other than cosmetics. My additions are almost entirely reward schema, so I can't really say what it's doing other than those guesses.

What do you need ? A tracing of the packets ? i don't have now a sw on my pc to do that, but i can prepare it..... i have a friend expert in this thing, that probably can help me.....


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Post by: crackfoo on March 09, 2016, 03:20:12 PM
Hi,

We've dropped SWING from the miners multipool: www.zpool.ca

Cheers


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Post by: fonzerrellie on March 13, 2016, 07:49:51 AM
I'm still staking mine, have never had an issue


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Post by: gregofdoom on March 17, 2016, 07:55:23 PM
Does anyone explain to me what happens?
My wallet working 24h, but today after reboot - updates windows - I have 10,000 coins less
Wallet is synchronized.



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Post by: adroitful_one on March 17, 2016, 09:13:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XocyWc4.png


stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4667 diff 128
stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4668 diff 1024
stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4669 diff 512(vardiff)


Username is your wallet address. Password can be anything

stats can be seen at http://www.altmining.com:8080


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Post by: fonzerrellie on March 17, 2016, 10:40:11 PM
Does anyone explain to me what happens?
My wallet working 24h, but today after reboot - updates windows - I have 10,000 coins less
Wallet is synchronized.



weird, did you try "repairwallet" in the debug? 


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Post by: gregofdoom on March 17, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Does anyone explain to me what happens?
My wallet working 24h, but today after reboot - updates windows - I have 10,000 coins less
Wallet is synchronized.



weird, did you try "repairwallet" in the debug? 


I did a repair wallet and now disappeared and 2000 coins  :(

Damn, what's going on ?


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Post by: fonzerrellie on March 18, 2016, 12:19:35 AM
Does anyone explain to me what happens?
My wallet working 24h, but today after reboot - updates windows - I have 10,000 coins less
Wallet is synchronized.



weird, did you try "repairwallet" in the debug? 


I did a repair wallet and now disappeared and 2000 coins  :(

Damn, what's going on ?

another 2000 coins? holy, thats messed up. I hope you figure it out


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Post by: opmac on March 23, 2016, 12:26:04 AM
How is everything going with the coin dev?


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Post by: HashStatz on March 23, 2016, 01:39:13 AM
nice volume on bittrex today.

Any comments or updates murderouskirk?


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Post by: fonzerrellie on March 23, 2016, 07:28:20 AM
and someone bought all the cheap swing on yobit as well  :'( I was hope'n to grab more sub 1000 sats while it was sleeping... but might be tempted to see 3000k as cheap considering we're over 6 months in and SWING's money supply is still well below 1 mill coins yet staking still feels rewarding.



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Post by: opmac on March 23, 2016, 07:06:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XocyWc4.png


stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4667 diff 128
stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4668 diff 1024
stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4669 diff 512(vardiff)


Username is your wallet address. Password can be anything

stats can be seen at http://www.altmining.com:8080

Verified and working!

Thanks


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Post by: murderouskirk on March 27, 2016, 12:15:23 AM
Hey guys,

nice volume on bittrex today.

Any comments or updates murderouskirk?

Good movement indeed! The trader in me is feeling pretty confident.

✓ Good distribution
✓ Extremely low supply
✓ Low inflation
✓ Good scarcity, few sellers
✓ Value much lower than similarly sized coins
✓ Room for an update release
✓ Traders testing new floors

http://i.imgur.com/Fx4uIbs.png

How is everything going with the coin dev?

From experience I've learned it's best not to say too much till things are launch ready, however I will say this:

• Progress is being made towards a core update.
• I have also been meeting with another core dev in the hopes that I can get him involved.
• Successfully doing so would make faster progress, higher quality code, and new ideas more attainable.

Tip: For the most stable Swing experience, install on Ubuntu 14.04 x64. (https://github.com/SwingCoin/Swing/blob/master/doc/build-unix.txt)

http://i.imgur.com/XocyWc4.png


stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4667 diff 128
stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4668 diff 1024
stratum+tcp://altmining.com:4669 diff 512(vardiff)


Username is your wallet address. Password can be anything

stats can be seen at http://www.altmining.com:8080

Fantastic thank you! I'll be sure to update the ANN with a link to your site, and remove the dead pools.

http://i.imgur.com/ISptkGp.png (https://twitter.com/CryptoPumpInfo/status/713883174313586688)


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Post by: opmac on March 27, 2016, 05:51:53 PM
Thanks for the message dev. Look forward to hearing more news.


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Post by: fonzerrellie on March 27, 2016, 09:16:35 PM
I hope thing's have been going good for you, your coin has been staking like a champ  8)

can't wait to see what you have in store for it.

Cheers


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Post by: trax0r on March 28, 2016, 09:17:39 AM
My wallet got stuck... The download of blocks stopped at block 128151 --- 33 days out of sync.
The wallet software writes, that it is catching up... but nothing happens...  there are 8 active connections.
Did anybody have something similar?


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Post by: gregofdoom on March 28, 2016, 11:37:20 AM
My wallet got stuck... The download of blocks stopped at block 128151 --- 33 days out of sync.
The wallet software writes, that it is catching up... but nothing happens...  there are 8 active connections.
Did anybody have something similar?



Delete all of the AppData, except wallet.dat wallet and run wallet again.
He should re-download all the blocks.


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Post by: trax0r on March 28, 2016, 09:14:28 PM
My wallet got stuck... The download of blocks stopped at block 128151 --- 33 days out of sync.
The wallet software writes, that it is catching up... but nothing happens...  there are 8 active connections.
Did anybody have something similar?



Delete all of the AppData, except wallet.dat wallet and run wallet again.
He should re-download all the blocks.

hey... this worked great... and no coins dissapeared.. :)
thx


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 08, 2016, 06:05:26 AM
Hi guys,
while checking staking this morning, I realized I forked (probably at block 218677).
It is quite strange, since I have 10 connections all time...
Any ideas what/why happened?

Maybe you wanna check your clients with explorers so you don't fork also...
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/
http://cryptobe.com/chain/Swing

Anyway: I deleted everything in data dir except wallet and .conf file, redownloaded blockchain and I'm back on right blockchain


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Post by: zazarb on May 08, 2016, 08:52:16 AM
Hi guys,
while checking staking this morning, I realized I forked (probably at block 218677).
It is quite strange, since I have 10 connections all time...
Any ideas what/why happened?

Maybe you wanna check your clients with explorers so you don't fork also...
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/
http://cryptobe.com/chain/Swing

Anyway: I deleted everything in data dir except wallet and .conf file, redownloaded blockchain and I'm back on right blockchain
I check , to me, all right, but concerns me more, that already month passed from last news from dev
and Hosting for this Blockchain has Expired(chainz.cryptoid.info)

"
Hosting for this blockchain has expired since...
2016-05-05
(3 days ago)"


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Post by: opmac on May 14, 2016, 09:54:11 PM
A update would be nice. Or at least a update on the explorer situation.


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Post by: Woody20285 on May 15, 2016, 12:11:00 AM
Cryptobe BE is working.
But, chain is nicer. Like many coins,
It may be up to the community for someone to step up, take donations and pay the fee.
Several of us did that in Cap, HBN and Con.


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Post by: opmac on May 18, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
Cryptobe BE is working.
But, chain is nicer. Like many coins,
It may be up to the community for someone to step up, take donations and pay the fee.
Several of us did that in Cap, HBN and Con.


I don't have a problem kicking in some BTC to help pay for it but a update from the dev first is needed to see if this coin is still a go

Too many coins are going belly up. Don't want to just throw it away to a lost cause. Hope this program is still a go.

The mechanics behind the coin are good


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 18, 2016, 05:24:05 PM
Cryptobe BE is working.
But, chain is nicer. Like many coins,
It may be up to the community for someone to step up, take donations and pay the fee.
Several of us did that in Cap, HBN and Con.


I don't have a problem kicking in some BTC to help pay for it but a update from the dev first is needed to see if this coin is still a go

Too many coins are going belly up. Don't want to just throw it away to a lost cause. Hope this program is still a go.

The mechanics behind the coin are good

Yeah, coin's great, staking superbly, just DEV is maybe too quiet :-)

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/58133151.jpg


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 21, 2016, 10:31:27 AM
What's up guys. Hope you're all doing well! I decided to make a video update instead of a big text one.

It's about 13 minutes and I talk about

  • Block Explorers
  • Room For improvement
  • Options For Improvement
  • Potential Reward Schema / Platform Changes
  • My Presence as Lead Dev
  • A Call For Devs And Discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71y4o9XFYr4

http://i.imgur.com/jGDyd4u.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71y4o9XFYr4)


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 21, 2016, 12:15:08 PM
What's up guys. Hope you're all doing well! I decided to make a video update instead of a big text one.

It's about 13 minutes and I talk about

  • Block Explorers
  • Room For improvement
  • Options For Improvement
  • Potential Reward Schema / Platform Changes
  • My Presence as Lead Dev
  • A Call For Devs And Discussion


Nice update DEV, thanks!

Didn’t know about that rounding bug, that was probably the reason I forked couple of days ago, one mystery solved then :-)
As for reward system: I think Swing is quite mature coin now and we can easily drop POW altogether.

Benefits of that:
  • rounding bug: solved :-)
  • lower inflation => price rise
  • miners not dumping => price rise





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Post by: murderouskirk on May 21, 2016, 06:22:48 PM
What's up guys. Hope you're all doing well! I decided to make a video update instead of a big text one.

It's about 13 minutes and I talk about

  • Block Explorers
  • Room For improvement
  • Options For Improvement
  • Potential Reward Schema / Platform Changes
  • My Presence as Lead Dev
  • A Call For Devs And Discussion


Nice update DEV, thanks!

Didn’t know about that rounding bug, that was probably the reason I forked couple of days ago, one mystery solved then :-)
As for reward system: I think Swing is quite mature coin now and we can easily drop POW altogether.

Benefits of that:
  • rounding bug: solved :-)
  • lower inflation => price rise
  • miners not dumping => price rise


Interesting idea, I actually hadn't considered dropping POW rewards altogether. I'm curious what other people think.


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Post by: nikkers on May 21, 2016, 08:47:13 PM
What's up guys. Hope you're all doing well! I decided to make a video update instead of a big text one.

It's about 13 minutes and I talk about

  • Block Explorers
  • Room For improvement
  • Options For Improvement
  • Potential Reward Schema / Platform Changes
  • My Presence as Lead Dev
  • A Call For Devs And Discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71y4o9XFYr4

http://i.imgur.com/jGDyd4u.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71y4o9XFYr4)

Glad to see you back around murderouskirk, and great vid ;)

I'm not fussed about droping POW either to be honest, it could help to raise prices, it seems there are few pools being used anyway, but that's just my opinion.

Wallet runs great etc, one of the only other things i could say that could help price would be an actual usage other than trading, but as i'm sure you know, it's very

hard to find.

And with just over a million coins produced so far it still seems fairly cheap to me, so i will continue stocking up for now :D


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 22, 2016, 12:51:07 AM
What's up guys. Hope you're all doing well! I decided to make a video update instead of a big text one.

It's about 13 minutes and I talk about

  • Block Explorers
  • Room For improvement
  • Options For Improvement
  • Potential Reward Schema / Platform Changes
  • My Presence as Lead Dev
  • A Call For Devs And Discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71y4o9XFYr4

http://i.imgur.com/jGDyd4u.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71y4o9XFYr4)

Glad to see you back around murderouskirk, and great vid ;)

I'm not fussed about droping POW either to be honest, it could help to raise prices, it seems there are few pools being used anyway, but that's just my opinion.

Wallet runs great etc, one of the only other things i could say that could help price would be an actual usage other than trading, but as i'm sure you know, it's very

hard to find.

And with just over a million coins produced so far it still seems fairly cheap to me, so i will continue stocking up for now :D

Thanks!

Yeah I'm not too keen on killing POW just yet either. He did state some good upsides, but there are also downsides to that.

Downsides to removing POW include:
-Decreased blockchain strength
-Less opportunity for miners to get their initial Swing with their rigs
-Fewer pools advertising SWING as a mining option
-No potential swing caused by miners.

I would however be interested in adjusting the miner rewards, maybe favoring POS rewards much more than current rates. Possibly even a significant reduction in POW rewards over POS.

Im interested to hear what you guys think of longer cycles too. Like maybe have POW or POS rewards gradually increase from 0.00 to 9.99 over the course of 1month+, rather than dropping every 1,000 blocks.

I'm also curious how say, increasing rewards linearly over 10 days before dropping from 9.99 to 0.00, would compare to say 30 days. Would one schema produce more coin than the other by the end of the 30 days? etc..


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 22, 2016, 09:20:06 AM
Yeah I'm not too keen on killing POW just yet either. He did state some good upsides, but there are also downsides to that.

Downsides to removing POW include:
-Decreased blockchain strength
-Less opportunity for miners to get their initial Swing with their rigs
-Fewer pools advertising SWING as a mining option
-No potential swing caused by miners.

I would however be interested in adjusting the miner rewards, maybe favoring POS rewards much more than current rates. Possibly even a significant reduction in POW rewards over POS.

Im interested to hear what you guys think of longer cycles too. Like maybe have POW or POS rewards gradually increase from 0.00 to 9.99 over the course of 1month+, rather than dropping every 1,000 blocks.

I'm also curious how say, increasing rewards linearly over 10 days before dropping from 9.99 to 0.00, would compare to say 30 days. Would one schema produce more coin than the other by the end of the 30 days? etc..

I think POW is important at the beginning for fair distribution, later I'm not so sure. Anybody who wanted to mine could during those 9 months. Who wants to buy now can (and it is pretty cheap too  :)

As for blockchain strength: is POW really more secure or is it other way around? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
Do we know some examples where POS coins security was compromised?

Yes,  miners can spread the word and make coin more popular but at they sell right after they mine they just push price lower.

You know what they say: If you wanna make everybody happy, at the end no one will be  ;)




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Post by: murderouskirk on May 22, 2016, 09:51:08 AM
Yeah I'm not too keen on killing POW just yet either. He did state some good upsides, but there are also downsides to that.

Downsides to removing POW include:
-Decreased blockchain strength
-Less opportunity for miners to get their initial Swing with their rigs
-Fewer pools advertising SWING as a mining option
-No potential swing caused by miners.

I would however be interested in adjusting the miner rewards, maybe favoring POS rewards much more than current rates. Possibly even a significant reduction in POW rewards over POS.

Im interested to hear what you guys think of longer cycles too. Like maybe have POW or POS rewards gradually increase from 0.00 to 9.99 over the course of 1month+, rather than dropping every 1,000 blocks.

I'm also curious how say, increasing rewards linearly over 10 days before dropping from 9.99 to 0.00, would compare to say 30 days. Would one schema produce more coin than the other by the end of the 30 days? etc..

I think POW is important at the beginning for fair distribution, later I'm not so sure. Anybody who wanted to mine could during those 9 months. Who wants to buy now can (and it is pretty cheap too  :)

As for blockchain strength: is POW really more secure or is it other way around? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
Do we know some examples where POS coins security was compromised?

Yes,  miners can spread the word and make coin more popular but at they sell right after they mine they just push price lower.

You know what they say: If you wanna make everybody happy, at the end no one will be  ;)




You make good points here. I want to address the following though.


As for blockchain strength: is POW really more secure or is it other way around? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
Do we know some examples where POS coins security was compromised?


To me, it's less about security and more about core stability. It's not that one is better, it's more that I feel BOTH is better than one. If something goes wrong with POS, POW can be used as a tool to keep the chain moving, or kickstart a frozen chain even. If one fails, the other is there to keep the chain moving till the issue resolves itself, or gets patched.

That being said, it should be possible to disable mining and end POW if we decide that's best for the coin, or set POW rewards low to nothing. (Although, there are probably concerns about an active POW with no competition.)

Also, if we were to disable POW, how would we setup POS?


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 22, 2016, 10:07:03 AM
Yeah I'm not too keen on killing POW just yet either. He did state some good upsides, but there are also downsides to that.

Downsides to removing POW include:
-Decreased blockchain strength
-Less opportunity for miners to get their initial Swing with their rigs
-Fewer pools advertising SWING as a mining option
-No potential swing caused by miners.

I would however be interested in adjusting the miner rewards, maybe favoring POS rewards much more than current rates. Possibly even a significant reduction in POW rewards over POS.

Im interested to hear what you guys think of longer cycles too. Like maybe have POW or POS rewards gradually increase from 0.00 to 9.99 over the course of 1month+, rather than dropping every 1,000 blocks.

I'm also curious how say, increasing rewards linearly over 10 days before dropping from 9.99 to 0.00, would compare to say 30 days. Would one schema produce more coin than the other by the end of the 30 days? etc..

I think POW is important at the beginning for fair distribution, later I'm not so sure. Anybody who wanted to mine could during those 9 months. Who wants to buy now can (and it is pretty cheap too  :)

As for blockchain strength: is POW really more secure or is it other way around? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
Do we know some examples where POS coins security was compromised?

Yes,  miners can spread the word and make coin more popular but at they sell right after they mine they just push price lower.

You know what they say: If you wanna make everybody happy, at the end no one will be  ;)




You make good points here. I want to address the following though.


As for blockchain strength: is POW really more secure or is it other way around? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
Do we know some examples where POS coins security was compromised?


To me, it's less about security and more about core stability. It's not that one is better, it's more that I feel BOTH is better than one. If something goes wrong with POS, POW can be used as a tool to keep the chain moving, or kickstart a frozen chain even. If one fails, the other is there to keep the chain moving till the issue resolves itself, or gets patched.

That being said, it should be possible to disable mining and end POW if we decide that's best for the coin, or set POW rewards low to nothing. (Although, there are probably concerns about an active POW with no competition.)

Also, if we were to disable POW, how would we setup POS?

hmm, I didn't think about POS so far....
As for POW as chain mover if something goes wrong: It is might be handy, that's true.
So how about make POW low and fixed, like 0.1 Swing?  That would make things as simple as possible + inflation due to POW would be superlow.
And POS... I don't know yet :-)



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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 22, 2016, 12:18:05 PM


Why do you state POW in the Title when there is now POW ?!

There is a POW for the movement of network ;) else coins will be stucked.

???

And whats that then:

The coin will be ICO friendly, meaning. NO POW as with all those big mining farms, it is terrible and it doesn't give people fair chance to mine enough coins, those mining farms are mining 80% of all coins, all for free. only electricity cost and most of the time those big mining farms are located in countries with a electricty cost of almost nothing. So I don't need any mining pools. This is different then with ROSCoin as miners dumped a lot and put some pressure on the ICO price of ROS.

Indeed, i don't need mining pool, people can solo mine those blocks, don't worry, the block values will be like 0.000001

Yeah but why not directly POS then ??? POW is not necessarily needed for chain movement, lots of POS only coins move flawless too and its much more secure to have a POS only coin instead of a POW/POS Hybrid with 0.000001 rewards where there is a possibility to fork it with big hash especially when there are no pools/big miners.

Then again... I just found this post from ocminer (guess you all know him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43526). Different coin, but principles should be same, right?



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Post by: murderouskirk on May 22, 2016, 12:29:41 PM


Why do you state POW in the Title when there is now POW ?!

There is a POW for the movement of network ;) else coins will be stucked.

???

And whats that then:

The coin will be ICO friendly, meaning. NO POW as with all those big mining farms, it is terrible and it doesn't give people fair chance to mine enough coins, those mining farms are mining 80% of all coins, all for free. only electricity cost and most of the time those big mining farms are located in countries with a electricty cost of almost nothing. So I don't need any mining pools. This is different then with ROSCoin as miners dumped a lot and put some pressure on the ICO price of ROS.

Indeed, i don't need mining pool, people can solo mine those blocks, don't worry, the block values will be like 0.000001

Yeah but why not directly POS then ??? POW is not necessarily needed for chain movement, lots of POS only coins move flawless too and its much more secure to have a POS only coin instead of a POW/POS Hybrid with 0.000001 rewards where there is a possibility to fork it with big hash especially when there are no pools/big miners.

Then again... I just found this post from ocminer (guess you all know him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43526). Different coin, but principles should be same, right?



Assuming POS works flawlessly and never has any hangups or speed issues (which it hopefully would) he is correct. POW would not be needed to keep the chain moving. POW does however act like a redundant backup motor in case of POS failures. POS failures are almost always unexpected and unprepared for, which is why as a dev leaving POW in means less stress.

To be clear, I do think setting rewards that low comes with its own set of issues (such as POW difficulty manipulation).

If we were to reduce POW I'd rather see miners earning something like 25% - 50% of what stakeholders do than 1 satoshi POW blocks. That or just end POW.


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Post by: opmac on May 22, 2016, 01:41:04 PM
Thanks for the update dev.

Just good to hear you are still active with project.

As you made reference of so many deadbeat devs with P n D scam coins.
Nice to keep stake holders in the loop


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 23, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Let's talk more about POW, and what impact removing it would actually have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M9mpTJluTM

http://i.imgur.com/iziN2nR.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M9mpTJluTM)


http://i.imgur.com/P52ZErW.png (https://twitter.com/_Crypto/status/734824831938613248)


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on May 24, 2016, 03:02:28 PM
Let's talk more about POW, and what impact removing it would actually have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M9mpTJluTM

http://i.imgur.com/iziN2nR.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M9mpTJluTM)


http://i.imgur.com/P52ZErW.png (https://twitter.com/_Crypto/status/734824831938613248)

Oh boy, you're actually right about POW inflation, it trully decreases it...
Well, then, if we want lower inflation, we could just lower POW reward... but how, that is the question...
'cos just lowering the percentage of reward for POW doesn't solves the rounding problem, right?


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 25, 2016, 11:02:55 AM

Oh boy, you're actually right about POW inflation, it trully decreases it...
Well, then, if we want lower inflation, we could just lower POW reward... but how, that is the question...
'cos just lowering the percentage of reward for POW doesn't solves the rounding problem, right?


Yeah. It seems so.

We don't necessarily have to cut the rewards back by a percentage like we currently do to cut POW rewards back. We can setup a fully hardcoded cycle, or find something new.

Just spitballing ideas now, I got to thinking about POW options a bit. It's possible we could set it up as a bit of a "jackpot" schema. For example, maybe have a cycle that raises the reward from 0.00 to 99.99 over the course of a month or longer. Then, we set it up so that there is only a chance of a reward. Most blocks would pay out next to nothing and cancel out inflation, but if you're lucky you could get rewarded with a block that feels large to the miner. This keeps miners interested and mining, while still keeping inflation in check. However, initial issues with this idea include deciding when to pay out a "jackpot" block without throwing rounding errors, and what sort of reward cycle we want to have. I think it could be accomplished though..

I'd like to hear more reward schema ideas though. They don't even necessarily have to be good or fleshed out, small unused ideas can be used to build bigger and better things.

Ask yourselves this and brainstorm a little:

How would you design a rewards system that might cause market movement?


Keep in mind increasing inflation often causes prices to decrease, and increasing scarcity often causes a price increase.

Consider that it's very possible you all have a better understanding of economics and price movement than me as well. How do YOU think we could make Swing swing?

(Oh, and should we try to get the chainz explorer back? We should figure out how much that would cost.)


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Post by: opmac on May 25, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
Block rewards now seem pretty low for POW

I find it hard to even point my miners to mine SWING. The power it consumes and the rewards I make are not worth it.

Myself would not be interested in a jackpot system.

But I am still in total support of SWING!!!

But by making POW block rewards even less people will be forced to buy SWING if they want more and not wait for staking.
If that is the case I would defiantly not mine SWING anymore. And yes that should help to drive up the price

Maybe see if you can get is listed on a multi pool where they payout in SWING

Something like hashpool.co or hashgoal.com

I would probably contact hashgoal.com first. He seems like a good guy. I think he would get on board to list SWING as a coin payout option.
Then he would be forced to buy SWING to pay us. I would point my miners to his site if that was the case. I have used him before with another coin
and it seemed to work pretty good.

Just my 2 cents from a miners standpoint.



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Post by: Woody20285 on May 25, 2016, 10:22:04 PM
I agree with the multi-pool Idea with payout in swing.
It is working well with several coins improve price while
allowing miners to accumulate


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 26, 2016, 01:13:32 AM
..multi-pool Idea with payout in swing.

This is something we have actually tried. We never got enough community support to get listed on major milti-pools. We got listed on a couple small ones but there were no miners on them and I believe we eventually got removed. On top of that getting added meant pre-existing MP miners would mine and dump swing to trade out for their favored currency, rather than the opposite.

It's an idea that I like and can work well, but has to be done right and actually needs miners. Might even need a custom MP designed specifically for Swing.


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Post by: crackfoo on May 26, 2016, 01:44:38 AM
..multi-pool Idea with payout in swing.

This is something we have actually tried. We never got enough community support to get listed on major milti-pools. We got listed on a couple small ones but there were no miners on them and I believe we eventually got removed. On top of that getting added meant pre-existing MP miners would mine and dump swing to trade out for their favored currency, rather than the opposite.

It's an idea that I like and can work well, but has to be done right and actually needs miners. Might even need a custom MP designed specifically for Swing.

I have SWING on my pool, www.zpool.ca, which pays out in any currency mined including SWING from any algo. Only caveat is that the pool only pays from what gets mined so you just need to keep an eye on the pool stats. If the currency is listed in RED, it means there are more SWING miners then there is SWING blocks being mined.

Cheers


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Post by: opmac on May 26, 2016, 01:58:00 AM
..multi-pool Idea with payout in swing.

This is something we have actually tried. We never got enough community support to get listed on major milti-pools. We got listed on a couple small ones but there were no miners on them and I believe we eventually got removed. On top of that getting added meant pre-existing MP miners would mine and dump swing to trade out for their favored currency, rather than the opposite.

It's an idea that I like and can work well, but has to be done right and actually needs miners. Might even need a custom MP designed specifically for Swing.

I have SWING on my pool, www.zpool.ca, which pays out in any currency mined including SWING from any algo. Only caveat is that the pool only pays from what gets mined so you just need to keep an eye on the pool stats. If the currency is listed in RED, it means there are more SWING miners then there is SWING blocks being mined.

Cheers

Hi thanks. Good to know. I will try it out.


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 26, 2016, 01:42:11 PM
..multi-pool Idea with payout in swing.

This is something we have actually tried. We never got enough community support to get listed on major milti-pools. We got listed on a couple small ones but there were no miners on them and I believe we eventually got removed. On top of that getting added meant pre-existing MP miners would mine and dump swing to trade out for their favored currency, rather than the opposite.

It's an idea that I like and can work well, but has to be done right and actually needs miners. Might even need a custom MP designed specifically for Swing.

I have SWING on my pool, www.zpool.ca, which pays out in any currency mined including SWING from any algo. Only caveat is that the pool only pays from what gets mined so you just need to keep an eye on the pool stats. If the currency is listed in RED, it means there are more SWING miners then there is SWING blocks being mined.

Cheers

Thanks! I'll be sure to add you to the ANN shortly. My apologies if I accidentally pulled it from the ANN when I was cleaning up. There was a bunch of dead pools on the list.


Hi thanks. Good to know. I will try it out.


Let us know how it goes. :)

What I think we really need is a pool that actually uses profits to buy Swing directly off the market. As far as I can tell zpool doesn't do this (i could be wrong). Does anyone know of pools that do?

Ideally I'd love a pool that:

1. Lets miners point hash from nicehash or in-house rigs
2. Keeps track of contributions
3. Points all the hash at AntPool or another major bitcoin pool
4. Deposits the profits onto Bittrex once we get over 0.0005 BTC.
5. Purchases Swing off Bittrex
6. Distributes the Swing to workers based on contribution.

(Or something similar)


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Post by: opmac on May 26, 2016, 05:01:53 PM
I messaged the owner of HASHGOAL.com last night and swing is now a payout there. I am pretty sure he must have to buy the SWING from the market.



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Post by: murderouskirk on May 26, 2016, 05:47:25 PM
I messaged the owner of HASHGOAL.com last night and swing is now a payout there. I am pretty sure he must have to buy the SWING from the market.



Fantastic, I've added both pools to the ANN for easier access.

Ideally we should test both and see if they buy Swing via market.


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Post by: opmac on May 26, 2016, 09:29:26 PM
I messaged the owner of HASHGOAL.com last night and swing is now a payout there. I am pretty sure he must have to buy the SWING from the market.



Fantastic, I've added both pools to the ANN for easier access.

Ideally we should test both and see if they buy Swing via market.

I will leave my miner pointed to hashgoal for a couple of days.

Will see what the payouts are and if we see any increase in buying.


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Post by: opmac on May 28, 2016, 03:19:34 PM
Spoke with HASHGOAL.com admin

He does purchase SWING off Bittrex to cover any payouts in SWING coin


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Post by: buriks on May 28, 2016, 03:59:01 PM
what is the hipost reward? n when its start?
eccording to Dev louncing sunday afternoon
read a gain


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 28, 2016, 04:34:52 PM
what is the hipost reward? n when its start?
eccording to Dev louncing sunday afternoon
read a gain

Hi, I think you missed the rest of the thread. The coin is already live on Bittrex :) https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SWING


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 28, 2016, 04:36:07 PM
Spoke with HASHGOAL.com admin

He does purchase SWING off Bittrex to cover any payouts in SWING coin

Oh excellent. I have noticed some buying too. The site says it's purchased 639.21622 SWING off the marketplace already.  ;D

Maybe we should focus on increasing our HashGoal power? How do we go about getting more miners. Hmm..


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Post by: opmac on May 28, 2016, 05:39:09 PM
I kicked in .021 btc for the block explorer.

Just want to see this coin succeed. And we have a active dev. And SWING community members.


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 28, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
I kicked in .021 btc for the block explorer.

Just want to see this coin succeed. And we have a active dev. And SWING community members.

Fantastic :) Thank you for the contribution!

I didn't realize how straight forward it was to extend the listing on Chainz. It seems to be live again, if anyone else wants to extend our subscription you can do so on the explorer page. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/#


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Post by: opmac on May 28, 2016, 11:56:00 PM
Spoke with HASHGOAL.com admin

He does purchase SWING off Bittrex to cover any payouts in SWING coin

Oh excellent. I have noticed some buying too. The site says it's purchased 639.21622 SWING off the marketplace already.  ;D

Maybe we should focus on increasing our HashGoal power? How do we go about getting more miners. Hmm..

Good question.

I am not sure how to direct more miners there.

Incentive of some type. Build a stronger overall coin to have more people get involved with it.
Sorry I know I am stating the obvious. A strong stable price will help for sure. Community action is huge.
Start with something small like a update to the web site. I am spit balling here. lol
The convo you had going about pos/pow was good.

I will give a update on the two pools once I receive all my payouts from them.



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Post by: murderouskirk on May 29, 2016, 04:38:28 PM
I've made a weekly recap video covering the action and events over the past week or so. Let's keep talking about improvements!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWntBuDiViQ

http://i.imgur.com/ZVo7cQT.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWntBuDiViQ)

Spoke with HASHGOAL.com admin

He does purchase SWING off Bittrex to cover any payouts in SWING coin

Oh excellent. I have noticed some buying too. The site says it's purchased 639.21622 SWING off the marketplace already.  ;D

Maybe we should focus on increasing our HashGoal power? How do we go about getting more miners. Hmm..

Good question.

I am not sure how to direct more miners there.

Incentive of some type. Build a stronger overall coin to have more people get involved with it.
Sorry I know I am stating the obvious. A strong stable price will help for sure. Community action is huge.
Start with something small like a update to the web site. I am spit balling here. lol
The convo you had going about pos/pow was good.

I will give a update on the two pools once I receive all my payouts from them.


Website update actually isn't a bad idea. I've been considering doing that, and also contemplating making a brief Swing intro / overview video for the ANN post.

I think if we can amass some hash power and get some fresh eyes on Swing we can do well.

I'd like to keep talking about potential changes to the reward schema too. Do we leave it as is for now and focus on things like the pool and website? Do we extend cycles into something more linear? We have endless options really..


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Post by: opmac on May 30, 2016, 08:16:39 PM
I received my first full payout from HASHGOAL.com today

All is good. The admin of hashgoal is great!!!

 


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 31, 2016, 01:38:29 AM
I received my first full payout from HASHGOAL.com today

All is good. The admin of hashgoal is great!!!

 

Fantastic! Glad to hear it.

Looks like HashGoal has purchased over 1220 SWING off the marketplace. Likely from just one person mining..


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Post by: murderouskirk on May 31, 2016, 07:52:23 PM
So I thought it was worth mentioning that this project actually just turned one year old this past May 20th.

We've gone through two major overhauls (Greed -> Greed Evolved -> Swing), and are still seeking constant improvement one year later.

Our supply sits at a minuscule 1,104,126 SWING, meaning we've maintained our title of one of the scarcest altcoins in existence. I encourage all of you to compare us against others with similar supplies.

I'm working towards making us a promotional video to both celebrate the fact that we beat the odds and are still alive, as well as spread the word of our project a bit.

Let's get some more brainpower in on the fun. It's time for us to grow, and I think we all see it.

Happy Birthday Swing!
https://media.giphy.com/media/YiQs87qG8tu4U/giphy.gif

http://i.imgur.com/U5Gqpoe.png (https://twitter.com/_Crypto/status/737734385185751040)



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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on June 01, 2016, 01:19:24 AM
Happy Birthday Swing! Thanks murderouskirk and community :-)

So I thought it was worth mentioning that this project actually just turned one year old this past May 20th.

We've gone through two major overhauls (Greed -> Greed Evolved -> Swing), and are still seeking constant improvement one year later.

Our supply sits at a minuscule 1,104,126 SWING, meaning we've maintained our title of one of the scarcest altcoins in existence. I encourage all of you to compare us against others with similar supplies.

I'm working towards making us a promotional video to both celebrate the fact that we beat the odds and are still alive, as well as spread the word of our project a bit.

Let's get some more brainpower in on the fun. It's time for us to grow, and I think we all see it.

Happy Birthday Swing!
https://media.giphy.com/media/YiQs87qG8tu4U/giphy.gif

http://i.imgur.com/U5Gqpoe.png (https://twitter.com/_Crypto/status/737734385185751040)



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Post by: jcksteve on June 01, 2016, 01:28:51 AM


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Post by: murderouskirk on June 01, 2016, 03:07:10 AM


Lmao who are you even? I don't believe I've seen you in here before. Welcome aboard friend ;D.


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on June 05, 2016, 05:38:29 AM
Guys, it seems we stucked at block 242000.
You think it can be the rounding problem?

edit: I guess it is the same thing, right?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164721.msg13792587#msg13792587

How was this solved anyway? Did the blockchain just moved by itself or should we redownload the chain?....

edit2: blockchain moved, I seem to stake fine, no fork in my client (according to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/, cryptoBE is down but for all coins it seems...)


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Post by: zazarb on June 05, 2016, 08:53:32 AM
Guys, it seems we stucked at block 242000.
You think it can be the rounding problem?

edit: I guess it is the same thing, right?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164721.msg13792587#msg13792587

How was this solved anyway? Did the blockchain just moved by itself or should we redownload the chain?....
yes I notify that also, I have one wallet in two pc(at the same time run with only one) and strange that  primary my wallet last reward got   6/4/2016 22:26 and when launch wallet in other pc  last reward 6/3/2016 03:50
debug windows show also different blocks number:

current number of blocks 242000
estimated total blocks    241577

vs
current number of blocks 241239
estimated total blocks    242000


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Post by: opmac on June 05, 2016, 10:18:02 PM
Yes I am having issues as well

Wallet is out of sync

Blocks do not appear to be moving

Any solutions?


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Post by: murderouskirk on June 06, 2016, 12:06:43 AM
Thanks for posting guys.

I just checked on the seed node. It appears to be moving and we are at block 241,584 at the time of this post.
If your wallet does not agree with this you will probably have to re-download the blockchain  :-\.

I will make a video update tomorrow talking about how we can work on eliminating this issue for good.


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on June 06, 2016, 01:06:42 AM
Thanks for posting guys.

I just checked on the seed node. It appears to be moving and we are at block 241,584 at the time of this post.
If your wallet does not agree with this you will probably have to re-download the blockchain  :-\.

I will make a video update tomorrow talking about how we can work on eliminating this issue for good.

Hi, thanks for update.

What is seed node ip?
Because https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/# seems to be forked, all nodes it shows at node list probably too
I re-downloaded but got stucked at 241159...


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Post by: murderouskirk on June 06, 2016, 01:45:30 AM
Thanks for posting guys.

I just checked on the seed node. It appears to be moving and we are at block 241,584 at the time of this post.
If your wallet does not agree with this you will probably have to re-download the blockchain  :-\.

I will make a video update tomorrow talking about how we can work on eliminating this issue for good.

Hi, thanks for update.

What is seed node ip?
Because https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/# seems to be forked, all nodes it shows at node list probably too
I re-downloaded but got stucked at 241159...

Hmm.. well the seed node IP is "104.236.29.198". It should be the very first peer you connect to every time since it's hard-coded in.

My first thoughts of a workaround is to try adding the following in your Swing.conf file

listen=0
addnode=104.236.29.198

In theory this should connect you to the seed node and stop you from connecting to other nodes.

If you don't know how to do a config file make a text doc at: C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\Swing

Add in your flags, save it as Swing.conf, then start Swing.

Make sure you're done downloading blocks before you try to stake or mine. We are now at block 241,595.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I know this rounding error bug can be quite stressful to users. We will focus on coming up with our next steps to overcome it.

(Chainz BE will probably have to re-download the chain as well since they seem to be ahead somehow, that or wait till we get passed the block they are reporting. Hopefully at that point they will toss out the bad chain and sync back up.)


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on June 06, 2016, 05:56:57 AM
Thanks for posting guys.

I just checked on the seed node. It appears to be moving and we are at block 241,584 at the time of this post.
If your wallet does not agree with this you will probably have to re-download the blockchain  :-\.

I will make a video update tomorrow talking about how we can work on eliminating this issue for good.

Hi, thanks for update.

What is seed node ip?
Because https://chainz.cryptoid.info/swing/# seems to be forked, all nodes it shows at node list probably too
I re-downloaded but got stucked at 241159...

Hmm.. well the seed node IP is "104.236.29.198". It should be the very first peer you connect to every time since it's hard-coded in.

My first thoughts of a workaround is to try adding the following in your Swing.conf file

listen=0
addnode=104.236.29.198

In theory this should connect you to the seed node and stop you from connecting to other nodes.

If you don't know how to do a config file make a text doc at: C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\Swing

Add in your flags, save it as Swing.conf, then start Swing.

Make sure you're done downloading blocks before you try to stake or mine. We are now at block 241,595.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I know this rounding error bug can be quite stressful to users. We will focus on coming up with our next steps to overcome it.

(Chainz BE will probably have to re-download the chain as well since they seem to be ahead somehow, that or wait till we get passed the block they are reporting. Hopefully at that point they will toss out the bad chain and sync back up.)


hmm, I limited it to seed node only by
Code:
maxconnections=1
connect=104.236.29.198
re-downloaded chain but still the same, stucked at 241159..
btw I forked June 3rd 3:40 UTC
Guess have to wait for hardfork or swap  :)


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Post by: cesmak on June 06, 2016, 09:20:43 AM
Me too first stuck on 240000 block and after deleting blockchain, used only that node, redownloaded the chain, and now stuck at 241159

EDIT : Now blockchain is moving i'm on block 241348...... received some staking swings..... but where we can see if we are in the right chain ? (if chainz is not ok....)


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Post by: Kostolany, Jr. on June 06, 2016, 10:43:05 AM
Me too first stuck on 240000 block and after deleting blockchain, used only that node, redownloaded the chain, and now stuck at 241159

EDIT : Now blockchain is moving i'm on block 241348...... received some staking swings..... but where we can see if we are in the right chain ? (if chainz is not ok....)

Now it is real mess...
I don't think we can solve this without hardfork and mandatory wallet update...


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Post by: cesmak on June 06, 2016, 10:56:25 AM
Me too first stuck on 240000 block and after deleting blockchain, used only that node, redownloaded the chain, and now stuck at 241159

EDIT : Now blockchain is moving i'm on block 241348...... received some staking swings..... but where we can see if we are in the right chain ? (if chainz is not ok....)

Now it is real mess...
I don't think we can solve this without hardfork and mandatory wallet update...

Yes there are a lot of forks.... chainz say a thing cryptopia is on another chain too, and mark a different block nr.... it's hard to understand how is the situation...dev has to do something....

My wallet is taking block contigously, and i don't see other blocks taken from other wallets, this is not a good thing.....all last 10 blocks were assigned to my wallet....


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Post by: cesmak on June 06, 2016, 12:09:19 PM
Now we are stuck again, i think because not enough wallets on the chain, so all my coins now are in staking jail, and probably all the others, so the chain don't move, don't confirm, and so no coins exit from jail to make another pos block.....


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Post by: murderouskirk on June 06, 2016, 03:03:04 PM
Morning everyone,

I've uploaded a short video where I talk about blockchain stability and what we need to do next. Please give the 5 minute video a watch and let me hear your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTEuBuLA9WU
http://i.imgur.com/IlzJuaC.png (https://w