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Title: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Blockchain powered immutable cloud computer
Post by: defaced on September 07, 2015, 11:28:20 PM
http://www.expanse.tech/images/expanse_logo.png

Expanse (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ITNRmZ0dTse-aZqjbWiC9w1n2XpPvKyl4J9BP-liuxw/edit?usp=sharing) is a decentralized cryptographic information, application, and contract platform. It is among the first of such to be fairly distributed, democratically controlled, and community managed. Through the use of smart contracts and decentralized blockchain technology, it is run not by any one individual or group, but by the users of Expanse itself. The project is organized, managed, and operated through a decentralized organization leveraging direct influence over the platform and its future to those that matter most: our community. New features, integration, and core modifications of the expanse platform and organization can be nominated, voted on, and implemented according to the collective opinion.

  • Algorithm: Dagger
  • Block Reward: 8
  • Gas Limit: 31415926
  • Block Target: 60 seconds
  • Listen Port: 42786
  • RPC Port: 9656
  • Reserve: 11 Million (Community Managed)
  • Whitepaper (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ITNRmZ0dTse-aZqjbWiC9w1n2XpPvKyl4J9BP-liuxw/edit?usp=sharing)


Launch Details

We will be hosting a Public Testnet Launch on 9/10/2015.
The purpose of this test is to allow users to comfortably
install, configure, and test the software, prepare their
miners, and familiarize themselves with Expanse. We want
everyone to have a fair start and be able to mine expanse
from the moment it launches. This is for testing only and
tokens mined on the testnet will not carry over into the
main launch.

The Main Launch will take place 9/14/2015 12:00am UTC.
This will be the real persistent exp blockchain and
full real launch of expanse.
The Expanse Project is managed by a decentralized organization
operating on the Expanse Blockchain. This decentralized entity
is responsible for significant decisions such as deciding what
features or updates to be focused on by developers, managing
the project's operating assets/reserve funds, and more.
It consists of three divisions, each with equal power to
vote on the decisions managing Expanse.
Expanse Development Core
The Expanse Development Core is composed of the
project's founders and core developers. Knowledgeable,
talented individuals with  diverse technical
experience related to blockchain technology.

Expanse Community Collective
The Expanse Community Collective is the soul of the
project: the people that use it. It is made of the
current active expanse token holders. Every one whole
expanse counts as a voting share. Holdings less
than 1 Exp do not apply.  

Expanse Advisory Board
A third party board composed of individuals mutually
elected by the Developer Core and Community Collective.
These should be trusted well known members of the
bitcoin/cryptocurrency community with long established
reputations in good standing. Ideally, individuals that
have a strong technical background and an understanding
of blockchain technology, able to make well informed
votes on technical and financial issues.
http://i.imgur.com/nd7nACP.png

Expanse Core Team
The Expanse Team consists of qualified, experienced, professional developers and industry figures with long term contributing histories to several lead projects, companies, and communities related to cryptocurrency and blockchain technology.

http://i.imgur.com/GuxJ59R.png

Community & Social
Expanse is a community based project, so the best way to participate is to interact!
Reach out to the other users and developers of expanse through a variety of platforms:

/r/expanseofficial (http://www.reddit.com/r/expanseofficial)             groups/expanseofficial (http://www.facebook.com/groups/expanseofficial)         twitter.com/expanseofficial (http://www.twitter.com/expanseofficial)

IRC
Active daily conversation
of the Expanse community.
http://i.imgur.com/Rq9FlNH.png
#expanse on irc.freenode.net
         
Slack
The best place to interact with the
Expanse Community is on our slack!
http://i.imgur.com/w4gUMZ8.png
Visit http://slack.expanse.tech/ for an invite!


Frequently Asked Questions: We will update this section every few days with answers to the questions most commonly asked or solutions to the most commonly encountered problems. This FAQ is specific to this thread, so please check out the Frequently Asked Questions Section of our website for additional answers to commonly asked questions.

Q: What is the difference between Expanse and Similar Projects?
A: The most important difference is that Expanse is a community run project. Major choices regarding its design decisions, operation, development path, investments, and more are made by the users. Expanse has no ICO or Crowdsale, only a small reserve which is managed by the community through a decentralized organization controlled through smart contracts. Unlike other projects the future of Expanse is chosen by contributors, miners, traders, and those that just want to be a part of and shape the future in a fair and decentralized manner.

Q: When will I be able to download Expanse software or read further documentation?
A: We will be continuously releasing updated documentation leading up to and following our Public Testnet and Main launch. Software will be made available to download at the start of the Public Testnet Launch and updated regularly.

Q: What is the difference between the Public Testnet Launch and Main Launch
A: The Public Testnet launch is so that we can allow everyone to install, prepare, and test mining configurations and client software in advance of the Expanse Launch. This will allow  for a more fair and evenly distributed launch allowing everyone to be fully prepared to participate when it goes live. The Testnet is for testing only, may be subject to occasional resets and stress/fault tests, and should not be considered stable in the long term. The Main Launch is the actual launch of Expanse, and is when users and miners can mine/exchange real Expanse Tokens, create  and execute smart contracts, and make full use of the platform and technology.

Q: Will I be able to keep tokens mined during the Public Testnet Launch?
A: Tokens mined on the Testnet will NOT carry over to the main network. They may persist on the testnet network but the Testnet is for testing only and will routinely be reset after various testing cycles. These hold no value other than for testing.

Q: I am a non-technical enthusiast. How can I help?
A: You can mine Expanse or buy some on Exchanges later once it is available there. You can also tell others about Expanse and the project. You can actively share your opinions and vote on key decisions later, and even suggest possible changes that you think the project should focus on. Expanse is all about listening to everyone and being inclusive, and building a strong community through fairness and the combined talent and vision of all those that want to be a part of it.

Q: I am a developer, how can I contribute to the Expanse project?
A: The potential of Expanse is massive, but application of its power is lacking. What is needed most are DApp and Contract Developers. Such contribution does not go unrewarded; the expanse organization will provide bountied incentives and rewards to qualifying Dapp and contract developers. For those wishing to contribute to the official project, we are currently drafting and will soon publish Contribution Guideline documents for developer contribution. In the mean time, you can participate directly in the #dev channel on the Expanse Slack.

Q: Is there an ICO?
A: There is no ICO or form of crowdfunding.

Q: What is the reserve? Why is there one?
A: The reserve is a set of funds managed by the Expanse Organization. These reserve funds are managed directly by the decentralized organization using smart contracts running on Expanse. The organization's funds are locked in a contract and made progressively available to the organization distributed evenly over time. 10% of the community reserve (1.1m exp) will be distributed to the foundation core slowly over time for long term development costs, with only 10% of that total available at launch to help with development and pay for initial bounties, with the rest of the foundation reserve to be slowly distributed to the team over a year using smart contracts, and the remaining 90% is to be used as determined by the Expanse Organization as a whole.

Q: How do we know the reserve won’t be dumped on an exchange?
A: The vast majority of the reserve is controlled directly by the Expanse Organization decentralized entity, and is locked with smart contracts. Any use of the Organization's funds requires the mutually voted majority between the community, developers, and advisory board. It would not be possible to sell without mutual approval. Additionally, the funds are unlocked to the organization over a distributed time frame.

Mainnet Instructions
Install deps and make gexp

Code:
apt-get install git binutils bison gcc make libgmp3-dev
bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)
gvm install go1.4
gvm use go1.4 --default
git clone -b develop http://www.github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse.git  
cd go-expanse
make gexp

From here you start the client with the genesis file

Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json

exitout then create your first account

Code:
build/bin/gexp account new

Then start it up with a bootnode

Code:
./gexp --bootnodes "enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786" --rpc console 2>exp.log

or from the console

Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")

Check and see if you are connected to any nodes

Code:
admin.peers

You can also get your own node info for others to connect to by entering

Code:
admin.nodeInfo

turn on mining

Code:
miner.start()
miner.stop()
Once you mine a few blocks, check your balance like this

Code:
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

If you are having trouble finding nodes give it a second and then follow the guide below

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

Binaries
https://github.com/expanse-org/gexp-builds
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/releases/

Other Binaries
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-darwin-x64.tar.gz
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-linux-x86.tar.gz
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-linux-x64.tar.gz
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-android-arm-21.tar.gz
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-windows-x86.zip
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-windows-x64.zip
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/gexp-darwin-x86.tar.gz
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/expwallet-win.zip
http://www.expanse.tech/downloads/expwallet-mac.zip

Add peers from just in case..


Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786");
admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786");
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117");
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741");
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786");
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568");

For updating information click here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173722.msg12412842#msg12412842)

Official Genesis
Code:
{
    "nonce": "0x214652414e4b4f21",
    "timestamp": "0x0",
    "parentHash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "extraData": "0x4672616e6b6f497346726565646f6d",
    "gasLimit": "0x1388",
    "difficulty": "0x40000000",
    "mixhash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "coinbase": "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898",
    "alloc": {
        "0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
        "0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},
    "0xc075fa11f85bda3aaba67106226aaf086ac16f4e": { "balance": "100000000000000000000000"},
    "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000"}
    }
}

Pools Software
https://github.com/ocminer/ethcore-pool-mpos
https://github.com/expanse-org/expanse-proxy

Pools
http://pool.expanse.tech
https://exp.suprnova.cc/
http://exp.maxminers.net/
http://dwarfpool.com/exp
http://pooleum.com/
http://exp.geilidao.com
http://exp.akasha-pool.eu
https://expanse.miningpoolhub.com
http://clona.ru:8083/

Exchanges
https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_exp
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-EXP
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/EXP/BTC

Console Cheat Sheet
Code:
BlockHeight == exp.blockNumber
nodeinfo == admin.nodeInfo
peers == admin.peers
addnode == admin.addPeer("enode://nodekey:ipaddress@port")
send tx == exp.sendTransaction({from:exp.accounts[0], to:"0x…007", value: web3.toWei(1, "expanse")})
getBalance == web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase), "expanse")
Peercount == net.peerCount

Chain Stats
How to join chainstats - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173722.msg12427609#msg12427609
Stats - http://stats.expanse.tech/
BlockExplorer - http://www.expanse.tech/explorer

Chat
IRC - #expanse freenode
SLACK - http://slack.expanse.tech/


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoSiD on September 07, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
I'm in, I just finished reading everything!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 07, 2015, 11:29:28 PM
I'm in, I just finished reading everything!


you are the fastest reader in the world lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 07, 2015, 11:30:48 PM
Instructions?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proletariat on September 07, 2015, 11:31:04 PM
The people's etherum..... been waiting for this one.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lin0sspice on September 07, 2015, 11:31:12 PM
Bunp


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: mind808crime on September 07, 2015, 11:31:46 PM
Waiting anxiously


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kcanup on September 07, 2015, 11:32:08 PM
So you guys moved to cloning ETH now? Thought this coin was coming as a bitcoin clone  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 07, 2015, 11:46:15 PM
So you guys moved to cloning ETH now? Thought this coin was coming as a bitcoin clone  ???

It was always an ETH clone.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kcanup on September 07, 2015, 11:48:15 PM
So you guys moved to cloning ETH now? Thought this coin was coming as a bitcoin clone  ???

It was always an ETH clone.
Ah ok, I may have mis-read previous announcement then.. Looking forward to it!!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 07, 2015, 11:57:12 PM
Instructions?

Test launch on 9/10, more details will be coming with all the instructions. You will be able to actually test mine in advance if you want to be sure all your settings are correct.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 08, 2015, 12:00:02 AM
I'm in. There are some great people behind this platform, and I have been keeping an eye on the development via Slack for a while now.

Looking forward to this. Great work team.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 12:10:47 AM
man smf is being incredibly frustrating right now


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 08, 2015, 12:13:34 AM
Thank you Franko and James, this should be epic! I was expecting the release mid/late week, and just as you stated in 1-2 days it's now here. Thank you, and I look forward to having a great time with Expanse.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
Thank you Franko and James, this should be epic! I was expecting the release mid/late week, and just as you stated in 1-2 days it's now here. Thank you, and I look forward to having a great time with Expanse.

We will be releasing the testnet soon, to get everyone acquainted with some of the slight differences we have and to make sure everything mines fine, then we will be releasing the mainnet later.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 12:50:24 AM
interesting, will mine :)

I'm actually testing mining right now. Its going pretty well. Soon ill tell everyone how to connect to my nodes and help me test some stuff.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 12:50:47 AM
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12003969_10154117318061029_3248076475384905828_n.jpg?oh=cd281eff9da89af25583fc6488d27edb&oe=56691221


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kelsey on September 08, 2015, 01:09:38 AM
great innovation; discovered a new name for premine  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: bit1 on September 08, 2015, 01:14:37 AM
Anybody mentioned ethereum?   Interesting  , Hero member?  more interesting..... We will see.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 02:02:34 AM
great innovation; discovered a new name for premine  :o

clever right :O

Except this premine is democratically owned by the community and stored in a smart contract DAO.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jasonhopper2412 on September 08, 2015, 02:55:56 AM
Looking forward to launch but it is a shame that your Monday afternoon launch will catch most folks involved in a normal work day. A scheduled weekend launch would seem more appealing to the majority of enthusiasts.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 08, 2015, 03:18:25 AM
Now I'm even more exited about the project. Nice looking new thread, can't wait to see it in action...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kampretkabur on September 08, 2015, 04:26:19 AM
something like SHIFT? hope i dont miss the launch


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 08, 2015, 05:27:45 AM
Looking forward to launch but it is a shame that your Monday afternoon launch will catch most folks involved in a normal work day. A scheduled weekend launch would seem more appealing to the majority of enthusiasts.

Some others mentioned that as well Jason. If most people would rather it is on a weekend I don't see why we can't change it for them. The Public Test Launch doesn't really matter since there is no competition there of course and people could just test whenever they get around to it, but would the main launch be better for most people moved up to Sunday? (Assuming that is ok with Franko, although I don't think that will be a problem...)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Jerry S on September 08, 2015, 07:30:20 AM
what does test launch mean?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Ethercloud on September 08, 2015, 08:05:44 AM
Ethercloud.info will be offering his services for cloud hasing.
Beta renting should be live around the launch of EXP.

More info https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173731


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ZonedOutSpace on September 08, 2015, 08:29:13 AM
I'm in can't wait til launch


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 08, 2015, 08:30:54 AM
Looks great, I'm in with a pool !


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MrEggman on September 08, 2015, 12:28:44 PM
why does franko make shit like franko currency and aiden?

mr franko is like candle
few men shine through darkness
as him


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 08, 2015, 12:55:20 PM
This looks very interesting i`m in :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
why does franko make shit like franko currency and aiden?


Why does someone do anything?

I made Franko to learn, first hand how cryptocurrency operates, and to give people another option with attributes that I found desirable. Franko has a monetary policy based on longevity and scarcity which virtually eliminates most of the early adopter benefits that are so rooted in the crypto currency community. I made ADN, 1 as a tribute to my first born, and two, to stress test the less memory intensive version of scrypt that it uses because I was thinking about adding it into FRK (which I have later decided against).

So that begs the question, why am I making EXP?

Because I have another project ive been working on for about a year called, EXP.life, a gamified micro employment platform that will create immortal profiles/resumes of people that live on a blockchain and there is very little incentive for me to use ETH.

But to answer my very first question, why do I work on crypto projects? 1, to learn (i'm a kinetic learner) and 2, because I can.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 08, 2015, 01:09:27 PM
what does test launch mean?

The test launch is exactly what it sounds like, a test launch. It is the a Public Launch of the Public Testnet -- Essentially, it is a way for everyone to try out Expanse before the actual launch. The main purpose of this is so everyone can configure their mining equipment, test any contract, dapp, or third party software ports, and make sure they are fully prepared to participate at the time of the real launch.

Any tokens mined during the test launch hold no value and do not apply to the real launch. There is nothing lost by not participating in the test, other than the chance to verify your mining setup or software is working right and ready to go.

Let us know if you have any other questions regarding the launch schedule.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 08, 2015, 01:26:27 PM
why does franko make shit like franko currency and aiden?


Why does someone do anything?

I made Franko to learn, first hand how cryptocurrency operates, and to give people another option with attributes that I found desirable. Franko has a monetary policy based on longevity and scarcity which virtually eliminates most of the early adopter benefits that are so rooted in the crypto currency community. I made ADN, 1 as a tribute to my first born, and two, to stress test the less memory intensive version of scrypt that it uses because I was thinking about adding it into FRK (which I have later decided against).

So that begs the question, why am I making EXP?

Because I have another project ive been working on for about a year called, EXP.life, a gamified micro employment platform that will create immortal profiles/resumes of people that live on a blockchain and there is very little incentive for me to use ETH.

But to answer my very first question, why do I work on crypto projects? 1, to learn (i'm a kinetic learner) and 2, because I can.

Haters gon hate m8. You have maintained FRK for over 2 years with out any hiccups. I'm excited about expanse and exp.life! Got my miners ready.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: HappyComplex on September 08, 2015, 02:43:55 PM
Looks like an interesting project.  I'm researching how this compares to other ETH-based cryptos now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
Cool, I'll be direct my ETH/SHIFT miners to those asap on the live network.... 8)

Will this stay POW or will it change to a POW/POS hybrid or POS? What's the total coins for POW?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: EmilioMann on September 08, 2015, 04:36:40 PM
Pretty cool, I'm in!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 04:39:27 PM
There's a problem with the links to the social media stuff on the OP, just wanted to point that out...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Splatters on September 08, 2015, 04:45:21 PM
I'm in, I just finished reading everything!

For real? did you read all the OP in less than 1 minute?
How can you read so fast?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: arloseb on September 08, 2015, 04:46:28 PM
Launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 08, 2015, 04:47:16 PM
Launch?
14.9.2015. Did you read OP??


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proletariat on September 08, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
I think something should be done about the mining diff or whatever combination it is that makes it super expensive to mine like shift. market cap on its first few days should be very very modest else it won't hold. It's gotta start at ground floor for a sustained growth.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: arloseb on September 08, 2015, 04:48:36 PM

No,i didn't read. Just posted asking the lunch date.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 08, 2015, 05:02:01 PM
There's a problem with the link to the social media stuff on the OP, just wanted to point that out...

Thanks, we will get that worked out. (I checked they are aware of it, and another version of the ANN is coming that should resolve it)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 08, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
I think something should be done about the mining diff or whatever combination it is that makes it super expensive to mine like shift. market cap on its first few days should be very very modest else it won't hold. It's gotta start at ground floor for a sustained growth.

The DAO gives incentive for people to hold since that gives more voting power, and we will be releasing some things over time to help sustain growth. Although I agree difficulty must be done right. We will have a test launch for testing that sort of thing too.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 08, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
When are you guys going to give up on creating new coins and just continue to work on the 10+ you've already created?

Yet another Franko shitcoin.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 08, 2015, 05:08:59 PM
When are you guys going to give up on creating new coins and just continue to work on the 10+ you've already created?

Yet another Franko shitcoin.

I still help with Horizon and Support HZchronos. A new campaign started yesterday using it in fact. Dan Conway I don't think has done other crypto coin projects, but has worked with blockchain technology for some time. Franko supported his Franko coin for years and still does.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tiggytomb on September 08, 2015, 05:12:33 PM
Will see how this starts off and if all looks good I will try to grab a few.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: djm34 on September 08, 2015, 05:54:54 PM
why does franko make shit like franko currency and aiden?


Why does someone do anything?

I made Franko to learn, first hand how cryptocurrency operates, and to give people another option with attributes that I found desirable. Franko has a monetary policy based on longevity and scarcity which virtually eliminates most of the early adopter benefits that are so rooted in the crypto currency community. I made ADN, 1 as a tribute to my first born, and two, to stress test the less memory intensive version of scrypt that it uses because I was thinking about adding it into FRK (which I have later decided against).

So that begs the question, why am I making EXP?

Because I have another project ive been working on for about a year called, EXP.life, a gamified micro employment platform that will create immortal profiles/resumes of people that live on a blockchain and there is very little incentive for me to use ETH.

But to answer my very first question, why do I work on crypto projects? 1, to learn (i'm a kinetic learner) and 2, because I can.

if you could make that coin with a less memory intensive (and smaller dag files) version of this algo ,that would be good.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 08, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
When are you guys going to give up on creating new coins and just continue to work on the 10+ you've already created?

Yet another Franko shitcoin.

 I am currently not an active developer on any coins. I am part of a few projects in the blockchain/crypto space, but none of them are comparable platforms or alternative crypto currencies. I have however worked on a number of cryptocoin projects as a code contributor and/or consultant, often by communities wanting to keep an abandoned coin updated, or devs wanting to add new features outside of their range of ability. I have not been a part of any of the giant IPO/ICO projects, or Big coin production groups responsible for most of the most recognized coins to come and go. My identity is open, I use my real name, and you will find I have no negative reputation for being a part of any dubious coin projects. Chances are, your intentions are only to spread negativity due to cynicism about the crypto community or to try to manipulate people to a viewpoint beneficial to yourself for an otherwise unseen reason, but If you do decide to give the project unbiased consideration, I am here to answer any questions you might have about it or myself.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 06:11:10 PM
why does franko make shit like franko currency and aiden?


Why does someone do anything?

I made Franko to learn, first hand how cryptocurrency operates, and to give people another option with attributes that I found desirable. Franko has a monetary policy based on longevity and scarcity which virtually eliminates most of the early adopter benefits that are so rooted in the crypto currency community. I made ADN, 1 as a tribute to my first born, and two, to stress test the less memory intensive version of scrypt that it uses because I was thinking about adding it into FRK (which I have later decided against).

So that begs the question, why am I making EXP?

Because I have another project ive been working on for about a year called, EXP.life, a gamified micro employment platform that will create immortal profiles/resumes of people that live on a blockchain and there is very little incentive for me to use ETH.

But to answer my very first question, why do I work on crypto projects? 1, to learn (i'm a kinetic learner) and 2, because I can.

if you could make that coin with a less memory intensive (and smaller dag files) version of this algo ,that would be good.

DAGs takes 2 to 3 GB. What's the CLI command to stop continuously regenerating DAGs. I swear I got like 20GB of DAGs and growing....lmfao


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Gumbork on September 08, 2015, 06:15:05 PM
I was just looking at block target and is 60 seconds why? ETH is 16 seconds.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 08, 2015, 06:23:49 PM
I was just looking at block target and is 60 seconds why? ETH is 16 seconds.

Franko could answer more technically, but I believe the reason is ETH gets a lot of orphans right now so this is more stable. We can always speed it up later if needed.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 06:26:56 PM
I was just looking at block target and is 60 seconds why? ETH is 16 seconds.

The reason I pushed the confirmation time to 60 seconds rather than ETH's 16 seconds is to give more time for block propagation and lower the amount of orphans created by the network.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 08, 2015, 06:34:48 PM
When are you guys going to give up on creating new coins and just continue to work on the 10+ you've already created?

Yet another Franko shitcoin.

How many coins do you think Christopher Franko has m8? He has released 3, FRK (which is still actively supported), ADN (a tribute to his first born son), and MIM (a parody). Expanse is a platform he is going to use for his exp.life project which also incorporates FRK. Is the water under your bridge a bit nippy today?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
I was just looking at block target and is 60 seconds why? ETH is 16 seconds.

The reason I pushed the confirmation time to 60 seconds rather than ETH's 16 seconds is to give more time for block propagation and lower the amount of orphans created by the network.

Another issue I personally experience is, sometime the DAG files get corrupted. Is there anything to help minimize this or prevent it? It's not very ssd friendly to keep erasing and rewriting files....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
I was just looking at block target and is 60 seconds why? ETH is 16 seconds.

The reason I pushed the confirmation time to 60 seconds rather than ETH's 16 seconds is to give more time for block propagation and lower the amount of orphans created by the network.

Another issue I personally experience is, sometime the DAG files get corrupted. Is there anything to help minimize this or prevent it? It's not very ssd friendly to keep erasing and rewriting files....

I havnt had this issue but I also use a standard harddrive, i'll look it up and when I find the answer ill get back to you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 06:41:45 PM
When are you guys going to give up on creating new coins and just continue to work on the 10+ you've already created?

Yet another Franko shitcoin.

How many coins do you think Christopher Franko has m8? He has released 3, FRK (which is still actively supported), ADN (a tribute to his first born son), and MIM (a parody). Expanse is a platform he is going to use for his exp.life project which also incorporates FRK. Is the water under your bridge a bit nippy today?

Franko/Defaced is a trusted dev, I've mined and traded both FRK and ADN in the past. Sure, the coins aren't doing great in the financial sense, but he still supports them compared to other devs.

Take a look at XQN aka Joe M, the dev ditches the project and make his last update an unnecessary 32-bit wallet, instead of updating the latest bitcoin core for security reasons. That's an example of a bad dev.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 06:43:25 PM
I was just looking at block target and is 60 seconds why? ETH is 16 seconds.

The reason I pushed the confirmation time to 60 seconds rather than ETH's 16 seconds is to give more time for block propagation and lower the amount of orphans created by the network.

Another issue I personally experience is, sometime the DAG files get corrupted. Is there anything to help minimize this or prevent it? It's not very ssd friendly to keep erasing and rewriting files....

I havnt had this issue but I also use a standard harddrive, i'll look it up and when I find the answer ill get back to you.

Sometimes I'll be mining 2 to 4 days straight with no issue, then all of a sudden the DAGs don't work and I need to regenerate them.

Also, if a pool(s) are eventually created, could make sure they implement stratum instead of getwork. I guess the miner could get forked to do stratum mining also.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 08, 2015, 06:44:00 PM
When are you guys going to give up on creating new coins and just continue to work on the 10+ you've already created?

Yet another Franko shitcoin.

How many coins do you think Christopher Franko has m8? He has released 3, FRK (which is still actively supported), ADN (a tribute to his first born son), and MIM (a parody). Expanse is a platform he is going to use for his exp.life project which also incorporates FRK. Is the water under your bridge a bit nippy today?

I came up with the branding of Expanse and EXP for the ticker, and it turned out Franko was already working on something called exp.life for Franko, so it was a perfect fit when we talked about it. I know first hand he plans on supporting and updating Franko over time, and devs that stick around and support their communities for years are a rare thing on Bitcointalk. So I think that adds a lot of value to this project, that we will be here for the long haul.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: monsanto on September 08, 2015, 06:56:50 PM
Detailed linux instructions for mining install will be greatly appreciated  :) (don't want to screw up my eth miner already there)

Looking forward to trying the testnet.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 07:04:28 PM
Detailed linux instructions for mining install will be greatly appreciated  :) (don't want to screw up my eth miner already there)

Looking forward to trying the testnet.

Of course we will have detailed instructions. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 08, 2015, 07:10:38 PM
Finally the moment we've been waiting for! Bring it on. I can't wait for the main/official release. It will be epic  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 08, 2015, 08:07:25 PM

Sometimes I'll be mining 2 to 4 days straight with no issue, then all of a sudden the DAGs don't work and I need to regenerate them.

Also, if a pool(s) are eventually created, could make sure they implement stratum instead of getwork. I guess the miner could get forked to do stratum mining also.


The DAG file is completely regenerated with entirely different contents every 30000 blocks (~100 hours). It needs to be generated (and takes time to do so) each 30,000 block cycle. DAG's can however be pre-generated, avoiding the need for the delay in generating one between each 30,000 block epoch. It seems there are a few comments/concerns related to DAG files, optimized configuration, space issues related to them, etc, So I will try to write a lengthier post explaining them, how they are used, and how to configure your environment to help clear up everyone's understanding.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NorrisK on September 08, 2015, 08:32:41 PM
This one will be interesting! Definitely bookmarking this thread, will keep a close eye on the launch :) Time to kick ethereum a little bit ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hexdump on September 08, 2015, 08:38:54 PM
eye candy  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Maverick69 on September 08, 2015, 08:42:38 PM
Keeping an eye on this...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 08, 2015, 10:12:56 PM

Sometimes I'll be mining 2 to 4 days straight with no issue, then all of a sudden the DAGs don't work and I need to regenerate them.

Also, if a pool(s) are eventually created, could make sure they implement stratum instead of getwork. I guess the miner could get forked to do stratum mining also.


The DAG file is completely regenerated with entirely different contents every 30000 blocks (~100 hours). It needs to be generated (and takes time to do so) each 30,000 block cycle. DAG's can however be pre-generated, avoiding the need for the delay in generating one between each 30,000 block epoch. It seems there are a few comments/concerns related to DAG files, optimized configuration, space issues related to them, etc, So I will try to write a lengthier post explaining them, how they are used, and how to configure your environment to help clear up everyone's understanding.

That would be nice to know how to pre-regenerate them and relocate them to another drive to be read, especially people running ssds.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 08, 2015, 11:42:28 PM

Sometimes I'll be mining 2 to 4 days straight with no issue, then all of a sudden the DAGs don't work and I need to regenerate them.

Also, if a pool(s) are eventually created, could make sure they implement stratum instead of getwork. I guess the miner could get forked to do stratum mining also.


The DAG file is completely regenerated with entirely different contents every 30000 blocks (~100 hours). It needs to be generated (and takes time to do so) each 30,000 block cycle. DAG's can however be pre-generated, avoiding the need for the delay in generating one between each 30,000 block epoch. It seems there are a few comments/concerns related to DAG files, optimized configuration, space issues related to them, etc, So I will try to write a lengthier post explaining them, how they are used, and how to configure your environment to help clear up everyone's understanding.

That would be nice to know how to pre-regenerate them and relocate them to another drive to be read, especially people running ssds.

I know you can change gexp's datadrive but not ethash's, I suppose a workaround would be to create a dir on another drive, than link it to ~/.ethash


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 09, 2015, 12:58:41 AM

Sometimes I'll be mining 2 to 4 days straight with no issue, then all of a sudden the DAGs don't work and I need to regenerate them.

Also, if a pool(s) are eventually created, could make sure they implement stratum instead of getwork. I guess the miner could get forked to do stratum mining also.


The DAG file is completely regenerated with entirely different contents every 30000 blocks (~100 hours). It needs to be generated (and takes time to do so) each 30,000 block cycle. DAG's can however be pre-generated, avoiding the need for the delay in generating one between each 30,000 block epoch. It seems there are a few comments/concerns related to DAG files, optimized configuration, space issues related to them, etc, So I will try to write a lengthier post explaining them, how they are used, and how to configure your environment to help clear up everyone's understanding.

That would be nice to know how to pre-regenerate them and relocate them to another drive to be read, especially people running ssds.

I know you can change gexp's datadrive but not ethash's, I suppose a workaround would be to create a dir on another drive, than link it to ~/.ethash

So, create a soft link on the dir?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 01:06:34 AM
8:00 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2015
observing Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)

Just to clarify in case anyone is confused about UTC time, this will be next Sunday Night 8pm EDT for the Main Launch.

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/expanse-main-launch-countdown-clock


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MickyCOB on September 09, 2015, 01:24:03 AM
8:00 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2015
observing Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)

Just to clarify in case anyone is confused about UTC time, this will be next Sunday Night 8pm EDT for the Main Launch.

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/expanse-main-launch-countdown-clock

Waiting on this looks like it could be a good coin  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Qbanow on September 09, 2015, 01:59:02 AM
8:00 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2015
observing Eastern Daylight Time (EDT)

Just to clarify in case anyone is confused about UTC time, this will be next Sunday Night 8pm EDT for the Main Launch.

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/expanse-main-launch-countdown-clock

Thanks for the new main launch time, Sunday sounds great!! :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 09, 2015, 04:03:10 AM
so today we get test mining?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 09, 2015, 04:45:59 AM

The Main Launch will take place 9/14/2015 12:00am UTC.




I'm in. SHF didn't turn out too well. The SHF devs are anonymous and are being greedy with bounties. This looks way better.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 09, 2015, 04:47:50 AM
Looking forward to this, perfect launch time for us that are in AUS :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 09, 2015, 05:09:33 AM



Will the test launch mine real coins on the 10th? I want in from block 1.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 09, 2015, 06:30:03 AM
The new launch time means I miss it. Good luck i guess.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 09, 2015, 06:32:27 AM
This project looks very good, as someone said the shift didn`t turn out to be a good project because of greedy dev, but this looks great i`m in from start. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 09, 2015, 07:24:17 AM
 Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

Edit: Shift target is 11 seconds, so math is slightly off, but you get the picture.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Joint Force on September 09, 2015, 07:31:33 AM

I sent out a tweet to support this project:
https://twitter.com/jessecouch/status/641478187575152640

Feel free to retweet or like it. It will make it popular enough that it will show up in my followers feeds.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: trid on September 09, 2015, 07:39:03 AM
Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 million available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

you right

at the same time "shift didn`t turn out to be a good project because of greedy dev, but this looks great"  and 12 days and more than 2 year.
someone do not like math :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 09, 2015, 07:45:42 AM
Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 million available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

you right

at the same time "shift didn`t turn out to be a good project because of greedy dev, but this looks great"  and 12 days and more than 2 year.
someone do not like math :)


This project has 3 real people putting their identities behind this one. I think it will work out well. SHF is most likely going to do really well also. I wouldnt want to miss either of them.

If I had to pick... I would guess this one will do better.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 09, 2015, 08:03:15 AM
Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 million available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

you right

at the same time "shift didn`t turn out to be a good project because of greedy dev, but this looks great"  and 12 days and more than 2 year.
someone do not like math :)


This project has 3 real people putting their identities behind this one. I think it will work out well. SHF is most likely going to do really well also. I wouldnt want to miss either of them.

If I had to pick... I would guess this one will do better.


I agree with you a think the shf dev is but greedy, but this one looks very good.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 09, 2015, 09:06:25 AM
Let's compare:

Expanse, 11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 million available immediately. Block target 1 minute and 8 EXP block reward. 4,207,680 EXP mined per year. Time to match premine = 2 years, 7 1/2 months

Ethereum, 72,000,000 premine to prerelease investors, devs, contributors, and their foundation. Block target 15 seconds and 5 Ether block reward. 10,519,200 Ether mined (and staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 6 years 10 months

Shift, 250,000 premine. Block target 12 seconds (in theory, its first post says average blocktime is higher) and 3 SHF block reward. 7,889,400 (theoretical) mined (or staked in future) per year. Time to match premine = 12 days.

you right

at the same time "shift didn`t turn out to be a good project because of greedy dev, but this looks great"  and 12 days and more than 2 year.
someone do not like math :)


This project has 3 real people putting their identities behind this one. I think it will work out well. SHF is most likely going to do really well also. I wouldnt want to miss either of them.

If I had to pick... I would guess this one will do better.


I agree with you a think the shf dev is but greedy, but this one looks very good.

First we have to see all the ETH clones stabilize first before we can make a final judgment on them. But if say within 3 to 6 months, nothing improves than you can exit investments...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ZonedOutSpace on September 09, 2015, 09:24:30 AM
I have faith in this, will surely out perform Shift lol.
Shift is nothing but Joey lying and braking agreements..

+1 for EXP


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 09, 2015, 10:25:43 AM



Will the test launch mine real coins on the 10th? I want in from block 1.




No. Test net coins do not carry over into the main launch. Please see the FAQ at the end of the ANN.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 09, 2015, 10:30:25 AM



Will the test launch mine real coins on the 10th? I want in from block 1.




No. Test net coins do not carry over into the main launch. Please see the FAQ at the end of the ANN.

Sometimes I think people don't read ANN completely. One thing to skim whitepapers, but a simple one page on ANN is a simple read.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: shojayxt on September 09, 2015, 10:41:15 AM
So this has turned into just another cloned coin with an outrageous premine. 

Have fun.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 09, 2015, 12:56:31 PM
11M PREMINE are you serious? ;D
Cloned coin with so much premine = next shit coin

How much coins from premine available at start to dump?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: trid on September 09, 2015, 02:14:55 PM
11M PREMINE are you serious? ;D
Cloned coin with so much premine = next shit coin

How much coins from premine available at start to dump?

"11,000,000 premine with 1,100,000 available immediately"

it's 3 month of all emission from 2.5 year emission premine  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sleepdog on September 09, 2015, 03:23:06 PM
The new launch time means I miss it. Good luck i guess.

Me too. I guess we should have spoken up when those 2 people requested it to be changed..  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 03:48:39 PM
The new launch time means I miss it. Good luck i guess.

Me too. I guess we should have spoken up when those 2 people requested it to be changed..  :)

Sunday Night USA most people are free to mine, that is when the Main Launch is set for. Lots of requests for the change right away when we posted the announcement, here, Slack, and Facebook. So we moved it up to Sunday night from Monday afternoon.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 04:05:11 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

If a "premine" deters you from using this platform, you could use FRK. FRK is a low inflation 0 premine alternative that has been up and running for nearly 3 years. Since FRK embodies your values i'll expect to see you in active in the frk community from now on.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: trid on September 09, 2015, 04:29:26 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

vote, ok. who will can vote? random accounts on bitcointalk, twitter FB etc?
hashpower like on bitcoin? coinholders in proportion to the contribution? please specify


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 04:34:22 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

vote, ok. who will can vote? random accounts on bitcointalk, twitter FB etc?
hashpower like on bitcoin? coinholders in proportion to the contribution? please specify

We are creating a ternary form of governance. The 3 divisions will each have their own sub-daos, votes and governing bodies. For any vote to pass, there has to be a 2/3 majority.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 04:41:16 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

vote, ok. who will can vote? random accounts on bitcointalk, twitter FB etc?
hashpower like on bitcoin? coinholders in proportion to the contribution? please specify

If you read the announcement there are some basic details for it, but in essence it will be controlled using smart contracts, code itself, rather than just by the team. The core team will have a 1/3 vote, 1/3 will be those that mine or buy it, and 1/3 will be a board of advisors nominated by both the team and the community at large. (some flow charts and such are on the way explaining this in more detail)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 09, 2015, 05:11:23 PM
Testnet Launch on 9/10/2015
you can specify the time?
will there be support CPU mining for a pool and solo?
will there be support for Windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 09, 2015, 05:20:14 PM

will there be support CPU mining for a pool and solo?


If there would be support for CPU mining, it would be pretty cool considering the fact that you don't need to own an ASIC or GPU. This is something that I would like to see  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 09, 2015, 05:27:40 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

There ain't no such thing as communities fund. This is cryptocurrency, not credit union.





Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 05:45:53 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

There ain't no such thing as communities fund. This is cryptocurrency, not credit union.





There is now. As it will be controlled with smart contracts the community literally controls it. For example, someone wants to make some DAPP and be paid for it in EXP, or someone wants to add on something of value to Expanse, that would be up to the community to vote for it to happen (be paid for) or not. Let's say the community wants changes to the design, again, up to the community. Not just with words, but with contracts.

As we can assist with marketing, people might also be able to make a DAPP and get paid for it, and get free marketing in addition. Since that would be mutually beneficial to holders of Expanse.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 09, 2015, 05:52:10 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

There ain't no such thing as communities fund. This is cryptocurrency, not credit union.





There is now. As it will be controlled with smart contracts the community literally controls it. For example, someone wants to make some DAPP and be paid for it in EXP, or someone wants to add on something of value to Expanse, that would be up to the community to vote for it to happen (be paid for) or not. Let's say the community wants changes to the design, again, up to the community. Not just with words, but with contracts.

As we can assist with marketing, people might also be able to make a DAPP and get paid for it, and get free marketing in addition. Since that would be mutually beneficial to holders of Expanse.



Please elaborate how this voting would look like. I guess I might find an answer in ethereum docs, but I want to understand it ASAP as it sounds really interesting.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 09, 2015, 05:53:46 PM

I sent out a tweet to support this project:
https://twitter.com/jessecouch/status/641478187575152640

Feel free to retweet or like it. It will make it popular enough that it will show up in my followers feeds.





Looks good. Let's get a big community right from the beginning and make this stronger than Ethereum.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 06:17:41 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

There ain't no such thing as communities fund. This is cryptocurrency, not credit union.





There is now. As it will be controlled with smart contracts the community literally controls it. For example, someone wants to make some DAPP and be paid for it in EXP, or someone wants to add on something of value to Expanse, that would be up to the community to vote for it to happen (be paid for) or not. Let's say the community wants changes to the design, again, up to the community. Not just with words, but with contracts.

As we can assist with marketing, people might also be able to make a DAPP and get paid for it, and get free marketing in addition. Since that would be mutually beneficial to holders of Expanse.

Please elaborate how this voting would look like. I guess I might find an answer in ethereum docs, but I want to understand it ASAP as it sounds really interesting.


Smart contracts would control the release of funds for 90% of the reserve. The Expanse Organization would vote on the use of all of these funds released slowly over time. The team gets a 1/3 vote, Holders (not the team) gets a 1/3 vote counted per EXP held, and the Advisor Board nominated and voted in by the team and the holders gets a 1/3 vote. Dan and Franko will go into more detail about the contracts later, but it will be code that prevents just the team using this a certain way, or just the holders, or just the advisor board. It would take 2 out of 3 sections to pass. Anyone can suggest an idea to be voted on, even those not holding Expanse.

http://s3.postimg.org/hb6l9v19f/EXPANSE.png


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 06:31:45 PM
One idea will be to create a way for expanse pull request to be merged by vote too. The sky is the limit with smart contracts.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 06:33:23 PM
Testnet Launch on 9/10/2015
you can specify the time?
will there be support CPU mining for a pool and solo?
will there be support for Windows?

Ethash uses dagger, which supports cpu and gpu, though gpu would be better.

Testnet is already up, but the official launch is tomorrow. We probably wont have windows for testnet unless someone wants to take some time to compile it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 06:38:04 PM
Testnet Launch on 9/10/2015
you can specify the time?
will there be support CPU mining for a pool and solo?
will there be support for Windows?

Ethash uses dagger, which supports cpu and gpu, though gpu would be better.

Testnet is already up, but the official launch is tomorrow. We probably wont have windows for testnet unless someone wants to take some time to compile it.

Franko is looking into compiling it for windows for the Test Launch as well, just spoke with him.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Blawpaw on September 09, 2015, 06:38:56 PM
Real cool project! I'm in. I would like to give my contribute as well!

Will I be able to mine it, run a node or manage a pool or something like that?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 09, 2015, 06:39:33 PM
Holders (not the team) gets a 1/3 vote counted per EXP held, and the Advisor Board nominated and voted in by the team and the holders gets a 1/3 vote.

Is it possible to distinguish between core team premined coins (10% of reserve) and mined coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
Holders (not the team) gets a 1/3 vote counted per EXP held, and the Advisor Board nominated and voted in by the team and the holders gets a 1/3 vote.

Is it possible to distinguish between core team premined coins (10% of reserve) and mined coins?

I believe by address, yes, but Dan Conway should have more information explaining exactly how that works later. Obviously anyone could buy Expanse and vote with their expanse, but the initial reserve for the team will be publicly available with addresses. We will definitely be holding most and only selling small amounts as needed. The design is such that we believe we can increase the value over time for traders and miners, and of course for the team.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 09, 2015, 06:50:31 PM
Holders (not the team) gets a 1/3 vote counted per EXP held, and the Advisor Board nominated and voted in by the team and the holders gets a 1/3 vote.

Is it possible to distinguish between core team premined coins (10% of reserve) and mined coins?

Yes, they can easily be determined by their origin, but the reality of such is trivial: dev coins could be sold to an exchange and new coins bought... In that case regular users have dev coins and devs have normal ones, the end result adding complication without much value.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 06:53:26 PM
Real cool project! I'm in. I would like to give my contribute as well!

Will I be able to mine it, run a node or manage a pool or something like that?

If you have a GPU that can mine Ethereum you will be able to mine Expanse. As for managing a pool that would be like normal, there will be pools that others provide I am sure, and if you could set one up that would be welcome.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Blawpaw on September 09, 2015, 07:11:19 PM
Real cool project! I'm in. I would like to give my contribute as well!

Will I be able to mine it, run a node or manage a pool or something like that?

If you have a GPU that can mine Ethereum you will be able to mine Expanse. As for managing a pool that would be like normal, there will be pools that others provide I am sure, and if you could set one up that would be welcome.

Yes, I have some GPUs and I'm willing to mine it. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get my GPUs to mine ether :\

do you have any tutorial for windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 07:16:13 PM
Real cool project! I'm in. I would like to give my contribute as well!

Will I be able to mine it, run a node or manage a pool or something like that?

If you have a GPU that can mine Ethereum you will be able to mine Expanse. As for managing a pool that would be like normal, there will be pools that others provide I am sure, and if you could set one up that would be welcome.

Yes, I have some GPUs and I'm willing to mine it. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get my GPUs to mine ether :\

do you have any tutorial for windows?

We will have instructions soon and a test launch, so you should be able to test everything in advance ahead of the main launch Sunday night. The Test Launch will be tomorrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 09, 2015, 07:52:42 PM
I believe by address, yes, but Dan Conway should have more information explaining exactly how that works later. Obviously anyone could buy Expanse and vote with their expanse, but the initial reserve for the team will be publicly available with addresses. We will definitely be holding most and only selling small amounts as needed. The design is such that we believe we can increase the value over time for traders and miners, and of course for the team.
Well those funds will cover initial development costs at launch so I guess they will not frozen anyhow. It means that for many many months whole reserve will be FULLY controlled by core team.
If you want a community fund, release (hardcoded block reward & recipient) those funds a year (or even more) after genesis. Otherwise it will be 90%+ premine like many others. I have removed math from this post to do not create a FUD, however, current model looks really bad.









Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 09, 2015, 08:45:31 PM
Remove the 11 million premine, and reduce it to a grand total of 1 million, all but 5% of that 1 million locked up in smart contracts that must be voted on by the community to unlock each portion of when the dates arrive. Set your greed aside and practice what you have preached for so long. Or keep it as is and be dead on arrival. Who would be dumb enough to place a buy order with over 3 months worth of coin hanging over the market...Get real.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MidwestMiner on September 09, 2015, 09:01:46 PM
Common, of course you can trust the team! The main dev is the hero behind the super successful and widely used Franko that was totally not a pump and dump... http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/franko/

Oh wait.. "Maybe" it's a total retard idea to think that a bunch of script kiddies should be trusted with 11 million coins as a 'community fund'...just MAYBE!

But then again, if you take a 100% copy-paste coin seriously, maybe you have bigger issues. Though seriously, this one is dead pre-launch even as a pump and dump with that premine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 09:12:53 PM
I believe by address, yes, but Dan Conway should have more information explaining exactly how that works later. Obviously anyone could buy Expanse and vote with their expanse, but the initial reserve for the team will be publicly available with addresses. We will definitely be holding most and only selling small amounts as needed. The design is such that we believe we can increase the value over time for traders and miners, and of course for the team.
Well those funds will cover initial development costs at launch so I guess they will not frozen anyhow. It means that for many many months whole reserve will be FULLY controlled by core team.
If you want a community fund, release (hardcoded block reward & recipient) those funds a year (or even more) after genesis. Otherwise it will be 90%+ premine like many others. I have removed math from this post to do not create a FUD, however, current model looks really bad.









As for the reserve, 90% will be locked and released slowly over time no matter what, and this will be controlled by the Expanse Organization as a whole, not just the team. The time frame for this could be one year, five years, or whatever the community thinks is best. I personally think one year isn't long enough as it is likely funds will be spent as available on bounties and this could create an issue a year down the line, even if it is a year away. Although it is possible POS or something else might be implemented later, or perhaps voluntary mining percentage going to the community fund later. This would be up to the Expanse Organization as a whole. I personally prefer keeping it proof of work as many might not find out about this until years later, and I would like them to be able to mine it even then, but that is just my own view.

We are certainly open to suggestions on what time frame the community funds should be dispersed over, and it is critical that the community has control of them as laid out in the Organization plans. That is the point of smart contracts and having everything transparent.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 09, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Common, of course you can trust the team! The main dev is the hero behind the super successful and widely used Franko that was totally not a pump and dump... http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/franko/

Oh wait.. "Maybe" it's a total retard idea to think that a bunch of script kiddies should be trusted with 11 million coins as a 'community fund'...just MAYBE!

But then again, if you take a 100% copy-paste coin seriously, maybe you have bigger issues. Though seriously, this one is dead pre-launch even as a pump and dump with that premine.

FRK? A pump n dump m8? You must be new here.

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#franko

Christopher Franko is one of the most trusted people in this community.

https://www.bitrated.com/defaced

trollhardernub


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
Common, of course you can trust the team! The main dev is the hero behind the super successful and widely used Franko that was totally not a pump and dump... http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/franko/

Oh wait.. "Maybe" it's a total retard idea to think that a bunch of script kiddies should be trusted with 11 million coins as a 'community fund'...just MAYBE!

But then again, if you take a 100% copy-paste coin seriously, maybe you have bigger issues. Though seriously, this one is dead pre-launch even as a pump and dump with that premine.

No moderated thread, no ICO, and we are using the reserve to have some funding for development and for the DAO. We are not having a ninja launch, no instamine, and that is actually more unfair in many cases. In fact we are having a test launch to make this fair for people that are not pro miners, with instructions and everything available in advance. You are free not to mine if you don't like it, and you are free to be critical and speak your mind here. I think we will prove the value of this over time however.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 09, 2015, 09:40:18 PM

As for the reserve, 90% will be locked and released slowly over time no matter what, and this will be controlled by the Expanse Organization as a whole, not just the team. The time frame for this could be one year, five years, or whatever the community thinks is best. I personally think one year isn't long enough as it is likely funds will be spent as available on bounties and this could create an issue a year down the line, even if it is a year away. Although it is possible POS or something else might be implemented later, or perhaps voluntary mining percentage going to the community fund later. This would be up to the Expanse Organization as a whole. I personally prefer keeping it proof of work as many might not find out about this until years later, and I would like them to be able to mine it even then, but that is just my own view.

We are certainly open to suggestions on what time frame the community funds should be dispersed over, and it is critical that the community has control of them as laid out in the Organization plans. That is the point of smart contracts and having everything transparent.




Just remove it. Let core team take premine they want and that's all. You can't guarantee that reserve will be community reserve so it will be considered as more or less hidden premine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 09, 2015, 09:41:01 PM
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52715056.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 09:43:14 PM

As for the reserve, 90% will be locked and released slowly over time no matter what, and this will be controlled by the Expanse Organization as a whole, not just the team. The time frame for this could be one year, five years, or whatever the community thinks is best. I personally think one year isn't long enough as it is likely funds will be spent as available on bounties and this could create an issue a year down the line, even if it is a year away. Although it is possible POS or something else might be implemented later, or perhaps voluntary mining percentage going to the community fund later. This would be up to the Expanse Organization as a whole. I personally prefer keeping it proof of work as many might not find out about this until years later, and I would like them to be able to mine it even then, but that is just my own view.

We are certainly open to suggestions on what time frame the community funds should be dispersed over, and it is critical that the community has control of them as laid out in the Organization plans. That is the point of smart contracts and having everything transparent.




Just remove it. Let core team take premine they want and that's all. You can't guarantee that reserve will be community reserve so it will be considered as more or less hidden premine.

Actually you can. :)

Code:
contract token { mapping (address => uint) public coinBalanceOf;   function token() { }   function sendCoin(address receiver, uint amount) returns(bool sufficient) {  } }


contract Democracy {

    uint public minimumQuorum;
    uint public debatingPeriod;
    token public voterShare;
    address public founder;
    Proposal[] public proposals;
    uint public numProposals;

    event ProposalAdded(uint proposalID, address recipient, uint amount, bytes32 data, string description);
    event Voted(uint proposalID, int position, address voter);
    event ProposalTallied(uint proposalID, int result, uint quorum, bool active);

    struct Proposal {
        address recipient;
        uint amount;
        bytes32 data;
        string description;
        uint creationDate;
        bool active;
        Vote[] votes;
        mapping (address => bool) voted;
    }

    struct Vote {
        int position;
        address voter;
    }

    function Democracy(token _voterShareAddress, uint _minimumQuorum, uint _debatingPeriod) {
        founder = msg.sender; 
        voterShare = token(_voterShareAddress);
        minimumQuorum = _minimumQuorum || 10;
        debatingPeriod = _debatingPeriod * 1 minutes || 30 days;
    }


    function newProposal(address _recipient, uint _amount, bytes32 _data, string _description) returns (uint proposalID) {
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0) {
            proposalID = proposals.length++;
            Proposal p = proposals[proposalID];
            p.recipient = _recipient;
            p.amount = _amount;
            p.data = _data;
            p.description = _description;
            p.creationDate = now;
            p.active = true;
            ProposalAdded(proposalID, _recipient, _amount, _data, _description);
            numProposals = proposalID+1;
        }
    }

    function vote(uint _proposalID, int _position) returns (uint voteID){
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0 && (_position >= -1 || _position <= 1 )) {
            Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
            if (p.voted[msg.sender] == true) return;
            voteID = p.votes.length++;
            p.votes[voteID] = Vote({position: _position, voter: msg.sender});
            p.voted[msg.sender] = true;
            Voted(_proposalID,  _position, msg.sender);
        }
    }

    function executeProposal(uint _proposalID) returns (int result) {
        Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
        /* Check if debating period is over */
        if (now > (p.creationDate + debatingPeriod) && p.active){   
            uint quorum = 0;
            /* tally the votes */
            for (uint i = 0; i <  p.votes.length; ++i) {
                Vote v = p.votes[i];
                uint voteWeight = voterShare.coinBalanceOf(v.voter);
                quorum += voteWeight;
                result += int(voteWeight) * v.position;
            }
            /* execute result */
            if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result > 0 ) {
                p.recipient.call.value(p.amount)(p.data);
                p.active = false;
            } else if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result < 0) {
                p.active = false;
            }
            ProposalTallied(_proposalID, result, quorum, p.active);
        }
    }
}

This is just the basic example provided by Ethereum.. and not to cast stones or anything but... even the Ethereum reserve contract doesnt use a DAO like we are.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Zackgeno96 on September 09, 2015, 09:50:19 PM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 09:53:32 PM
And Ethereum had 12m ETH in their simple multisig premine reserve contract.. which they have already withdrew 7m :x

Our DAO contract limits the withdraw to 1% of the total contract balance per 24 hours.

Furthermore, Anyone trying to discredit our network by claiming its just a clone blahblahbalh is painfully ignorant to the nature of the ETH codebase. ETH was specifically designed to give anyone the ability to create their own chain with relative ease. They even encourage users to create their own private network (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Setting-up-private-network-or-local-cluster) if ETH's parameters dont fit their needs.. and ETH doesnt fit my needs so I'm creating EXP.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 09, 2015, 09:54:32 PM
1. Mine as much as you can
2. Dump when price pumps
3. Next clone please

Lots of money will be made. It's like we are back in 2013 with all the litecoin clones.

That's just how i see it, don't get mad at me ;D.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 09, 2015, 09:54:54 PM
And Ethereum had 12m ETH in their simple multisig premine reserve contract.. which they have already withdrew 7m :x

Our DAO contract limits the withdraw to 1% of the total contract balance per 24 hours.

Furthermore, Anyone trying to discredit our network by claiming its just a clone blahblahbalh is painfully ignorant to the nature of the ETH codebase. ETH was specifically designed to give anyone the ability to create their own chain with relative ease. They even encourage users to create their own private network (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Setting-up-private-network-or-local-cluster) if ETH's parameters dont fit their needs.. and ETH doesnt fit my needs so I'm creating EXP.

And taking a ridiculous premine which will stun the growth of the coin.  We don't care how you hold it.  The fact of the matter is that you're being greedy.  End of story.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 10:03:29 PM
And Ethereum had 12m ETH in their simple multisig premine reserve contract.. which they have already withdrew 7m :x

Our DAO contract limits the withdraw to 1% of the total contract balance per 24 hours.

Furthermore, Anyone trying to discredit our network by claiming its just a clone blahblahbalh is painfully ignorant to the nature of the ETH codebase. ETH was specifically designed to give anyone the ability to create their own chain with relative ease. They even encourage users to create their own private network (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Setting-up-private-network-or-local-cluster) if ETH's parameters dont fit their needs.. and ETH doesnt fit my needs so I'm creating EXP.

And taking a ridiculous premine which will stun the growth of the coin.  We don't care how you hold it.  The fact of the matter is that you're being greedy.  End of story.

1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 09, 2015, 10:14:57 PM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 09, 2015, 10:20:22 PM
And Ethereum had 12m ETH in their simple multisig premine reserve contract.. which they have already withdrew 7m :x

Our DAO contract limits the withdraw to 1% of the total contract balance per 24 hours.

Furthermore, Anyone trying to discredit our network by claiming its just a clone blahblahbalh is painfully ignorant to the nature of the ETH codebase. ETH was specifically designed to give anyone the ability to create their own chain with relative ease. They even encourage users to create their own private network (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Setting-up-private-network-or-local-cluster) if ETH's parameters dont fit their needs.. and ETH doesnt fit my needs so I'm creating EXP.

And taking a ridiculous premine which will stun the growth of the coin.  We don't care how you hold it.  The fact of the matter is that you're being greedy.  End of story.

1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

Then why are you posting in the "Alternate cryptocurrencies" section?  It's a fucking altcoin.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 09, 2015, 10:24:30 PM

As for the reserve, 90% will be locked and released slowly over time no matter what, and this will be controlled by the Expanse Organization as a whole, not just the team. The time frame for this could be one year, five years, or whatever the community thinks is best. I personally think one year isn't long enough as it is likely funds will be spent as available on bounties and this could create an issue a year down the line, even if it is a year away. Although it is possible POS or something else might be implemented later, or perhaps voluntary mining percentage going to the community fund later. This would be up to the Expanse Organization as a whole. I personally prefer keeping it proof of work as many might not find out about this until years later, and I would like them to be able to mine it even then, but that is just my own view.

We are certainly open to suggestions on what time frame the community funds should be dispersed over, and it is critical that the community has control of them as laid out in the Organization plans. That is the point of smart contracts and having everything transparent.




Just remove it. Let core team take premine they want and that's all. You can't guarantee that reserve will be community reserve so it will be considered as more or less hidden premine.

Actually you can. :)

Code:
contract token { mapping (address => uint) public coinBalanceOf;   function token() { }   function sendCoin(address receiver, uint amount) returns(bool sufficient) {  } }


contract Democracy {

    uint public minimumQuorum;
    uint public debatingPeriod;
    token public voterShare;
    address public founder;
    Proposal[] public proposals;
    uint public numProposals;

    event ProposalAdded(uint proposalID, address recipient, uint amount, bytes32 data, string description);
    event Voted(uint proposalID, int position, address voter);
    event ProposalTallied(uint proposalID, int result, uint quorum, bool active);

    struct Proposal {
        address recipient;
        uint amount;
        bytes32 data;
        string description;
        uint creationDate;
        bool active;
        Vote[] votes;
        mapping (address => bool) voted;
    }

    struct Vote {
        int position;
        address voter;
    }

    function Democracy(token _voterShareAddress, uint _minimumQuorum, uint _debatingPeriod) {
        founder = msg.sender; 
        voterShare = token(_voterShareAddress);
        minimumQuorum = _minimumQuorum || 10;
        debatingPeriod = _debatingPeriod * 1 minutes || 30 days;
    }


    function newProposal(address _recipient, uint _amount, bytes32 _data, string _description) returns (uint proposalID) {
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0) {
            proposalID = proposals.length++;
            Proposal p = proposals[proposalID];
            p.recipient = _recipient;
            p.amount = _amount;
            p.data = _data;
            p.description = _description;
            p.creationDate = now;
            p.active = true;
            ProposalAdded(proposalID, _recipient, _amount, _data, _description);
            numProposals = proposalID+1;
        }
    }

    function vote(uint _proposalID, int _position) returns (uint voteID){
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0 && (_position >= -1 || _position <= 1 )) {
            Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
            if (p.voted[msg.sender] == true) return;
            voteID = p.votes.length++;
            p.votes[voteID] = Vote({position: _position, voter: msg.sender});
            p.voted[msg.sender] = true;
            Voted(_proposalID,  _position, msg.sender);
        }
    }

    function executeProposal(uint _proposalID) returns (int result) {
        Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
        /* Check if debating period is over */
        if (now > (p.creationDate + debatingPeriod) && p.active){   
            uint quorum = 0;
            /* tally the votes */
            for (uint i = 0; i <  p.votes.length; ++i) {
                Vote v = p.votes[i];
                uint voteWeight = voterShare.coinBalanceOf(v.voter);
                quorum += voteWeight;
                result += int(voteWeight) * v.position;
            }
            /* execute result */
            if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result > 0 ) {
                p.recipient.call.value(p.amount)(p.data);
                p.active = false;
            } else if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result < 0) {
                p.active = false;
            }
            ProposalTallied(_proposalID, result, quorum, p.active);
        }
    }
}

This is just the basic example provided by Ethereum.. and not to cast stones or anything but... even the Ethereum reserve contract doesnt use a DAO like we are.



Some people just don't understand how much better Ethereum is than BitCoin.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
And Ethereum had 12m ETH in their simple multisig premine reserve contract.. which they have already withdrew 7m :x

Our DAO contract limits the withdraw to 1% of the total contract balance per 24 hours.

Furthermore, Anyone trying to discredit our network by claiming its just a clone blahblahbalh is painfully ignorant to the nature of the ETH codebase. ETH was specifically designed to give anyone the ability to create their own chain with relative ease. They even encourage users to create their own private network (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Setting-up-private-network-or-local-cluster) if ETH's parameters dont fit their needs.. and ETH doesnt fit my needs so I'm creating EXP.

And taking a ridiculous premine which will stun the growth of the coin.  We don't care how you hold it.  The fact of the matter is that you're being greedy.  End of story.

1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

Then why are you posting in the "Alternate cryptocurrencies" section?  It's a fucking altcoin.

Because there isnt a "dapp platform" section. You should send Theymos a section if it hurts your feelings so bad.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 09, 2015, 11:25:54 PM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)

No time set for the test launch, but once everything is ready tomorrow. It should run for a couple days so there is no rush trying to test mine first. As this is just a test there is no value with anything mined with it, so don't worry about being early.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Zackgeno96 on September 09, 2015, 11:50:09 PM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)

No time set for the test launch, but once everything is ready tomorrow. It should run for a couple days so there is no rush trying to test mine first. As this is just a test there is no value with anything mined with it, so don't worry about being early.
ya, i know there is basically no point to joining the test mine, but it gives me the chance to make sure i have my miners set up properly, when i tried to mine eth i struggled for a few days and just gave up, hoping this will be a lot smoother and hopefully me and my pea sized brain will be able to figure it out  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 09, 2015, 11:54:03 PM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)

No time set for the test launch, but once everything is ready tomorrow. It should run for a couple days so there is no rush trying to test mine first. As this is just a test there is no value with anything mined with it, so don't worry about being early.
ya, i know there is basically no point to joining the test mine, but it gives me the chance to make sure i have my miners set up properly, when i tried to mine eth i struggled for a few days and just gave up, hoping this will be a lot smoother and hopefully me and my pea sized brain will be able to figure it out  ;D

Well there is a point, to do exactly what you said ^_^ get your mining gear ready and everything.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Rage19420 on September 10, 2015, 02:09:57 AM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)

No time set for the test launch, but once everything is ready tomorrow. It should run for a couple days so there is no rush trying to test mine first. As this is just a test there is no value with anything mined with it, so don't worry about being early.
ya, i know there is basically no point to joining the test mine, but it gives me the chance to make sure i have my miners set up properly, when i tried to mine eth i struggled for a few days and just gave up, hoping this will be a lot smoother and hopefully me and my pea sized brain will be able to figure it out  ;D

Here a tutorial for solo mining ether coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg12306597#msg12306597

It has bat files too.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Zackgeno96 on September 10, 2015, 02:13:55 AM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)

No time set for the test launch, but once everything is ready tomorrow. It should run for a couple days so there is no rush trying to test mine first. As this is just a test there is no value with anything mined with it, so don't worry about being early.
ya, i know there is basically no point to joining the test mine, but it gives me the chance to make sure i have my miners set up properly, when i tried to mine eth i struggled for a few days and just gave up, hoping this will be a lot smoother and hopefully me and my pea sized brain will be able to figure it out  ;D

Here a tutorial for solo mining ether coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg12306597#msg12306597

It has bat files too.


thanks that really helps!, but when i was trying to mine eth there was only 30 gigs on the network, last time i checked there was 400GH+? im not sure if it's still as high but that's pretty insane for cpu power only.... so i stopped bothering with it, the one random pool feature really boggled my mind somuch $ invested into a project without a dedicated mining pool/server...  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Rage19420 on September 10, 2015, 02:17:59 AM
what time will the test net launch be happening tomorrow, looking forward to test mining this kinda had a hard time setting up miners for eth hopefully this will be more clear and a little simpler  ;)

No time set for the test launch, but once everything is ready tomorrow. It should run for a couple days so there is no rush trying to test mine first. As this is just a test there is no value with anything mined with it, so don't worry about being early.
ya, i know there is basically no point to joining the test mine, but it gives me the chance to make sure i have my miners set up properly, when i tried to mine eth i struggled for a few days and just gave up, hoping this will be a lot smoother and hopefully me and my pea sized brain will be able to figure it out  ;D

Here a tutorial for solo mining ether coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1155284.msg12306597#msg12306597

It has bat files too.


thanks that really helps!, but when i was trying to mine eth there was only 30 gigs on the network, last time i checked there was 400GH+? im not sure if it's still as high but that's pretty insane for cpu power only.... so i stopped bothering with it

suprnova pool really helps for when the diff is gets too high. You basically just have to run the gpuminer and that's it. I struggled as well but i think I have it worked out pretty well now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: forzendiablo on September 10, 2015, 02:40:15 AM
this doesnt look like secure investment


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Zackgeno96 on September 10, 2015, 02:56:39 AM
this doesnt look like secure investment
what do you mean by that it's not like there asking for crowdfunding nor any ICO funds, so you really plan on not spending a few hours on what these talented people of the crypto community have to bring to the table? i would be ashamed if i missed another great project such as this i for one am excited as hell....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 10, 2015, 04:27:13 AM
this doesnt look like secure investment

whats a secure investment to you m8? bot, exclusive coin, mapcoin, and negativity?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kadrek on September 10, 2015, 06:13:22 AM
Anyone have a link to a miner for AMD cards, and a guide about how to mine with a pool/solo?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 10, 2015, 06:24:38 AM
Anyone have a link to a miner for AMD cards, and a guide about how to mine with a pool/solo?

http://cryptomining-blog.com/5344-quick-guide-on-solo-gpu-mining-ethereum-on-windows/

I think this guide is really good.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 10, 2015, 06:27:37 AM
Test launch started  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 10, 2015, 06:31:49 AM
Anyone have a link to a miner for AMD cards, and a guide about how to mine with a pool/solo?

http://cryptomining-blog.com/5344-quick-guide-on-solo-gpu-mining-ethereum-on-windows/

I think this guide is really good.

Yes that one is a good guide, on this site you have all build version for ethereum https://build.ethdev.com/builds/


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lcall7 on September 10, 2015, 07:11:23 AM
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop (https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop)

LOL. This guy aint no coder. Embarrassing.

You must have worked really hard Franko. hah. One of your 4 other coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 07:17:39 AM
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop (https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop)

LOL. This guy aint no coder. Embarrassing.

You must have worked really hard Franko. hah. One of your 4 other coins.

Sure, you've created a coin yourself....Trolling with a new account, that's genius...Not...lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lcall7 on September 10, 2015, 07:23:44 AM
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop (https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop)

LOL. This guy aint no coder. Embarrassing.

You must have worked really hard Franko. hah. One of your 4 other coins.

Sure, you've created a coin yourself....Trolling with a new account, that's genius...Not...lol

Yeah i got thousands of other coins in me sleeve yeah just like franko  https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop (https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop)

His funny commits like "test change lol"

Cryptoclub are you proud of franko haha............ what are you paying him?



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 07:26:55 AM
Anyone have a link to a miner for AMD cards, and a guide about how to mine with a pool/solo?

http://cryptomining-blog.com/5344-quick-guide-on-solo-gpu-mining-ethereum-on-windows/

I think this guide is really good.
Anyone have a link to a miner for AMD cards, and a guide about how to mine with a pool/solo?

That is a good guide, but beware to use the latest geth and ethminer, otherwise you might fork, if you mining ETH. Only thing that will work for EXP is the ethminer and the GUI wallet, you will need the geth CLI/Daemon for EXP.

Latest ETH wallet: https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases/tag/v1.1.2
Latest OpenCL miner: http://cryptomining-blog.com/5612-updated-ethminer-0-9-41-opencl-and-cuda-for-windows/
Simple GUI wallet: http://www.etherwall.com/
Note of GUI wallet, you must run the geth CLI/Daemon wallet to make it work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 08:01:58 AM
this doesnt look like secure investment

whats a secure investment to you m8? bot, exclusive coin, mapcoin, and negativity?

Reality check, nothing is a secure investment. Stock, shares, bonds, mutual funds, savings account, etc....None are secure, if minimal at most.....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 10, 2015, 09:48:12 AM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 10, 2015, 10:37:00 AM
There should be no premine. If devs want coins they can start mining when we all start mining.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kinley88 on September 10, 2015, 10:42:53 AM
There should be no premine. If devs want coins they can start mining when we all start mining.
Agree all premined coins are scams


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 10, 2015, 11:34:50 AM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: heinried on September 10, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
this doesnt look like secure investment

Instead of just posting bullshit why dont you backup your claims by supplying some sort of opinion and/or evidence in this statement?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 10, 2015, 11:51:40 AM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



I think it`s ok to for devs to have primine but not too much.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: solid12345 on September 10, 2015, 01:16:22 PM
There should be no premine. If devs want coins they can start mining when we all start mining.

I'll jive in as the guy who contributed the logo and graphics for the project, personally, i'm also a human with bills to pay like everybody else. As excited as I am over Expanse and the talent behind it, I still can't afford to work for free and I doubt neither can James, Dan or Christopher.  I honestly would not dedicate my time to it if I knew there wasn't a bounty coming or the chance to get coins early on. It's not that I don't value the project, but my time is valuable too, I got a 40 hour a week deadend job like everybody else so if I am going to step up and contribute I hope to get some kind of return. I don't have the necessary equipment to mine and I also don't believe I should have to sacrifice and make the big miner farms rich while I am left with having to buy off an exchange at rising prices when I am the one contributing blood and sweat to the project, something busy bodies on here can't say.

Unfortunately in my almost 2 years in crypto now I think the issue of premines are the most dramatic issue people have ever made a deal out of. Of all the scam coins I've been through and can count off the top of my head, the vast bulk have never been problems with devs dumping premines but devs just frankly abandoning the coin after 30 days to go create another coin, rinse and repeat. Frankly most don't even need premines as most just ninja launch with their big miner buddies and gobble up all the coins in the first day anyway. Trust me, a 0% premine has never EVER prevented or insured against a coin from being a scam, all it does is drain resources or incentives for honest developers.

Which would you rather have, a developer team with the necessary resources to stick around in the long-term or a fly-by-night crew just looking for a quick pump and dump? Now I do agree a premine shouldn't be exorbitant or obscene but a respectable amount that even if dumped immediately overnight on an exchange wouldn't completely collapse the price of an asset.





Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Zombier0 on September 10, 2015, 01:27:22 PM
Says fair launch, but then we find out thrre is premine. Funny howmyou cheated that part between no ico and other stuff :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 10, 2015, 01:28:50 PM
Test launch live or not  ??? Can't see info anywhere...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 01:29:53 PM
Test launch live or not  ??? Can't see info anywhere...

Setting up some servers now, ill report back in just a few :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
Says fair launch, but then we find out thrre is premine. Funny howmyou cheated that part between no ico and other stuff :)


Whats unfair about a community driven DAO thats built into a smart contract?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 10, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
Will there be a mining pool right from the start of the coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 01:38:35 PM
Will there be a mining pool right from the start of the coin?

I'm not certain, supernova said they will probably be providing one.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 10, 2015, 01:40:16 PM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 01:45:58 PM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.

The source is open, why dont you make your own with qualities that fit your needs?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 01:49:53 PM
Install deps and make gexp

Code:
apt-get install git binutils bison gcc make libgmp3-dev
bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)
go install go1.4
gvm use go1.4 [--default]
git clone -b develop http://www.github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse.git 
cd go-expanse
make gexp

From here you start the client with the genesis file

Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis test_genesis.json

ctrc+c out then create your first account

Code:
build/bin/gexp account new

Then start it up with a bootnode

Code:
./gexp --bootnodes "enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786" --rpc console 2>exp.log

Check and see if you are connected to any nodes

Code:
admin.peers
turn on mining

Code:
miner.start()
miner.stop()
Once you mine a few blocks, check your balance like this

Code:
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

If you are having trouble finding nodes give it a second and then follow the guide below

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 10, 2015, 01:51:53 PM
No windows builds  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 02:02:02 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 10, 2015, 02:19:38 PM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.

The source is open, why dont you make your own with qualities that fit your needs?
Hmm... all who wants to trade altcoins need to make his own clone? Pls Do not change subject of our discuss.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 02:29:03 PM


1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.

The source is open, why dont you make your own with qualities that fit your needs?
Hmm... all who wants to trade altcoins need to make his own clone? Pls Do not change subject of our discuss.

I'm merely saying that if you want a crypto that fits your agenda then you should probably learn to make your own.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 10, 2015, 02:39:52 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

This is too hard for me  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 02:43:55 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

This is too hard for me  :'(

give a man a fish,he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. I have faith in you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MidwestMiner on September 10, 2015, 03:05:13 PM
The fact that the development team compares this coin and it's massive premine to Ethereum and somehow thinks that people are going to swallow 11 million coin premine based on 'It's just like Ethereum they also premined' (But without the team, vision, 20k BTC ICO and corporate projects) is a joke. What part of 11 MILLION premine killing the coin don't you get? No one cares if it's 'community owned', it's 100% unnecessary, and the 'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.

With the 4x longer block time than Ether, and literally NO word on what makes this coin 'better for your purposes' than Ether a Premine over 100k is a complete no-go for most people. Look at what happened to Shift (the first Ether copy-paste) and block-times, price and premine. Yeah, it's pretty much dead already because there is NO profit to be made from mining with 250k coins hanging in the air and price tanking.

TLDR: 'Fairly distributed' , 11 million coin premine. ROTFL!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 03:22:26 PM
Quote
blockchains with fast confirmation times currently suffer from reduced security due to a high stale rate - because blocks take a certain time to propagate through the network, if miner A mines a block and then miner B happens to mine another block before miner A's block propagates to B, miner B's block will end up wasted and will not contribute to network security.

That is taken from Ethereums own whitepaper.

They claim that their modified GHOST implementation solves the problem, which it does for the most part, but there is still a huge orphan rate that is drastically lowered by the incredibly simple solution of making blocks take a little longer. We also increased the amount of GAS a DAPP can use which will also benefit from a slightly longer block time.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: solid12345 on September 10, 2015, 03:29:15 PM
'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.


What else is crypto but flipping on your miners and minting yourself free money? But the fact is coins would not be worth anything in the first place without the work of developers giving value to a project.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 10, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

It's been couple of hours. Did you by any chance build some win executable?
Do you plan to have windows binary available on official launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 04:03:01 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

It's been couple of hours. Did you by any chance build some win executable?
Do you plan to have windows binary available on official launch?

official launch will have binaries. I'm working on setting up cross compiling atm.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 10, 2015, 04:05:12 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.


I've got to the end and I'm not finding a git checkout develop && godep go install under the c:\godev\......\gexp, or do I need to run go git in command?


I've found the checkout and develop but what's wit the && godep, godep is not found Maybe, try to reword the last line to me? I'm also helping my daughter, whom is homeschooled, out with this as a project. She is running everything while I check her work. So far, everything has bee a breeze. Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 05:26:16 PM
No windows builds  ???

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.


I've got to the end and I'm not finding a git checkout develop && godep go install under the c:\godev\......\gexp, or do I need to run go git in command?


I've found the checkout and develop but what's wit the && godep, godep is not found Maybe, try to reword the last line to me? I'm also helping my daughter, whom is homeschooled, out with this as a project. She is running everything while I check her work. So far, everything has bee a breeze. Thank you.

give me a little while, watching my kids while my wife runs to the store, ill work it out and see what I come up with. Its amazing though you got your daughter doing this! Thats exactly what we need in crypto. +9001 internets for that.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 10, 2015, 05:30:22 PM
No worries, she is on Khan Academy doing math currently. Just let us know when you get around to it.


I wouldn't have it any other way...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 05:32:34 PM
No worries, she is on Khan Academy doing math currently. Just let us know when you get around to it.


I wouldn't have it any other way...

Khan academy and services like it are the future. I love how they have everything gamified.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
After "bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)", I was asked to re-start the terminal, which I did; but then, when I start a new Terminal, I got this in the first line: "n[[: command not found", then the bash prompt.

And when I tried to run "go install go1.4", I got this message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

I'm using Ubuntu 15.04, thanks in advance


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 06:39:47 PM
After "bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)", I was asked to re-start the terminal, which I did; but then, when I start a new Terminal, I got this in the first line: "n[[: command not found", then the bash prompt.

And when I tried to run "go install go1.4", I got this message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

I'm using Ubuntu 15.04, thanks in advance

you have to set it as your default

gvm use go1.4 --default


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 07:01:07 PM
After "bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)", I was asked to re-start the terminal, which I did; but then, when I start a new Terminal, I got this in the first line: "n[[: command not found", then the bash prompt.

And when I tried to run "go install go1.4", I got this message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

I'm using Ubuntu 15.04, thanks in advance

you have to set it as your default

gvm use go1.4 --default

Thanks for response, but I get:

ubu@ubu:~$ gvm use go1.4 [--default]
No command 'gvm' found, but there are 18 similar ones
gvm: command not found

And as I said, I can't past from ""go install go1.4", because of the error message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 07:06:01 PM
After "bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)", I was asked to re-start the terminal, which I did; but then, when I start a new Terminal, I got this in the first line: "n[[: command not found", then the bash prompt.

And when I tried to run "go install go1.4", I got this message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

I'm using Ubuntu 15.04, thanks in advance

you have to set it as your default

gvm use go1.4 --default

Thanks for response, but I get:

ubu@ubu:~$ gvm use go1.4 [--default]
No command 'gvm' found, but there are 18 similar ones
gvm: command not found

And as I said, I can't past from ""go install go1.4", because of the error message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

did you restart your terminal session?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 07:07:25 PM
After "bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)", I was asked to re-start the terminal, which I did; but then, when I start a new Terminal, I got this in the first line: "n[[: command not found", then the bash prompt.

And when I tried to run "go install go1.4", I got this message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

I'm using Ubuntu 15.04, thanks in advance

you have to set it as your default

gvm use go1.4 --default

Thanks for response, but I get:

ubu@ubu:~$ gvm use go1.4 [--default]
No command 'gvm' found, but there are 18 similar ones
gvm: command not found

And as I said, I can't past from ""go install go1.4", because of the error message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

did you restart your terminal session?

I restarted the whole computer :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 07:10:19 PM
gvm install go1.4

I had a typo in the instructions im sorry


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 10, 2015, 07:21:35 PM
gvm install go1.4 is working for me :)
can u update your instructions so everybody can install it like this?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 07:24:43 PM
gvm install go1.4 is working for me :)
can u update your instructions so everybody can install it like this?

I updated the OP :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 07:30:17 PM
After bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer) I get "n[[: command not found" whenever I start a terminal and I have restated the computer and still, so the package broke my bash? Also getting " No command 'gvm' found, but there are 18 similar ones
gvm: command not found" when trying to install go1.4

Help plz


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 07:32:45 PM
https://github.com/moovweb/gvm

this is the repo we are using and might help a little more.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
Nvm fixed it myself :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 08:09:02 PM
Nvm fixed it myself :)

I'm having the same issue, how did you fixed it?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nix_on on September 10, 2015, 08:09:46 PM
How can you call it "Fair launch " without windows wallet ?
You should use antonym of a word "fair"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 10, 2015, 08:11:42 PM
ok admin.peers get me null.
howto add some peers? with admin.getpeers?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Odd Thomas on September 10, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
Need a compiled windows build.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 08:16:48 PM
Nvm fixed it myself :)

I'm having the same issue, how did you fixed it?

Okay once you run the install command " bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)" It will mess up you .bachrc file in the home/YOURUSER/ directory. Open that .bachrc life and scroll down till you find

#THIS MUST BE AT THE END OF THE FILE FOR GVM TO WORK!!!
export GVM_DIR="/home/YOURUSER/.gvm"
[[ -s "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/bin/gvm-init.sh" ]] && source "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/bin/gvm-init.sh"
/n[[ -s "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/scripts/gvm" ]] && source "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/scripts/gvm"

Delete the "/n" and now gvm should work and also recolonize go1.4
 


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 08:23:11 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")


once you have it up and running and at the console


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 10, 2015, 08:25:44 PM
Need a compiled windows build.

Second that


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 10, 2015, 08:26:36 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 08:27:19 PM
also you could give me your node url and i could add it from my nodes. In the release version we will have hard coded nodes. :)

Code:
admin.nodeInfo

http://i.imgur.com/OmZnUkG.png (http://imgur.com/OmZnUkG)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 08:36:31 PM
also you could give me your node url and i could add it from my nodes. In the release version we will have hard coded nodes. :)
DiscPort: 42786,
  IP: "",
  ListenAddr: "[::]:42786",
  Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
  NodeID: "25bf61212436189a39034cf379a9863794710e4fb6e3ef616f404b85d86c7378cd6de0a763cd2f2 98a49a80e8b58605f5384a02d17696c5211d0fea6ad47ffeb",
  NodeUrl: "enode://25bf61212436189a39034cf379a9863794710e4fb6e3ef616f404b85d86c7378cd6de0a763cd2f298a49a80e8b58605f5384a02d17696c5211d0fea6ad47ffeb@:42786",
  TCPPort: 42786,
  Td: "134184960"
}


cant seem to add any nodes :(
0 peers


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 08:44:54 PM
Try adding my other one too

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 08:48:01 PM
Try adding my other one too

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")



Okay now I see you :) 1 peer


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
Nvm fixed it myself :)

I'm having the same issue, how did you fixed it?

Okay once you run the install command " bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)" It will mess up you .bachrc file in the home/YOURUSER/ directory. Open that .bachrc life and scroll down till you find

#THIS MUST BE AT THE END OF THE FILE FOR GVM TO WORK!!!
export GVM_DIR="/home/YOURUSER/.gvm"
[[ -s "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/bin/gvm-init.sh" ]] && source "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/bin/gvm-init.sh"
/n[[ -s "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/scripts/gvm" ]] && source "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/scripts/gvm"

Delete the "/n" and now gvm should work and also recolonize go1.4
 

Thank you very much, it worked!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
Nvm fixed it myself :)

I'm having the same issue, how did you fixed it?

Okay once you run the install command " bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)" It will mess up you .bachrc file in the home/YOURUSER/ directory. Open that .bachrc life and scroll down till you find

#THIS MUST BE AT THE END OF THE FILE FOR GVM TO WORK!!!
export GVM_DIR="/home/YOURUSER/.gvm"
[[ -s "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/bin/gvm-init.sh" ]] && source "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/bin/gvm-init.sh"
/n[[ -s "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/scripts/gvm" ]] && source "/home/YOURUSER/.gvm/scripts/gvm"

Delete the "/n" and now gvm should work and also recolonize go1.4
 

Thank you very much, it worked!

Np, try starting a node


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 10, 2015, 09:05:33 PM
The fact that the development team compares this coin and it's massive premine to Ethereum and somehow thinks that people are going to swallow 11 million coin premine based on 'It's just like Ethereum they also premined' (But without the team, vision, 20k BTC ICO and corporate projects) is a joke. What part of 11 MILLION premine killing the coin don't you get? No one cares if it's 'community owned', it's 100% unnecessary, and the 'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.

With the 4x longer block time than Ether, and literally NO word on what makes this coin 'better for your purposes' than Ether a Premine over 100k is a complete no-go for most people. Look at what happened to Shift (the first Ether copy-paste) and block-times, price and premine. Yeah, it's pretty much dead already because there is NO profit to be made from mining with 250k coins hanging in the air and price tanking.

TLDR: 'Fairly distributed' , 11 million coin premine. ROTFL!

I have to agree with this, and I could be wrong but I don't think Shift's 250k premine has had that much of an effect on the market. Without a block explorer that can show info on accounts it's hard to tell.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 10, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
so when it goes live, will I be able to GPU mine in ethminer ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 09:10:07 PM
The fact that the development team compares this coin and it's massive premine to Ethereum and somehow thinks that people are going to swallow 11 million coin premine based on 'It's just like Ethereum they also premined' (But without the team, vision, 20k BTC ICO and corporate projects) is a joke. What part of 11 MILLION premine killing the coin don't you get? No one cares if it's 'community owned', it's 100% unnecessary, and the 'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.

With the 4x longer block time than Ether, and literally NO word on what makes this coin 'better for your purposes' than Ether a Premine over 100k is a complete no-go for most people. Look at what happened to Shift (the first Ether copy-paste) and block-times, price and premine. Yeah, it's pretty much dead already because there is NO profit to be made from mining with 250k coins hanging in the air and price tanking.

TLDR: 'Fairly distributed' , 11 million coin premine. ROTFL!

I have to agree with this, and I could be wrong but I don't think Shift's 250k premine has had that much of an effect on the market. Without a block explorer that can show info on accounts it's hard to tell.

I'm sorry y'all feel that way.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 09:10:17 PM
so when it goes live, will I be able to GPU mine in ethminer ?

Yes :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Bagdar13 on September 10, 2015, 09:31:12 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc. 


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 09:32:50 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc. 

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 10, 2015, 09:34:22 PM
The fact that the development team compares this coin and it's massive premine to Ethereum and somehow thinks that people are going to swallow 11 million coin premine based on 'It's just like Ethereum they also premined' (But without the team, vision, 20k BTC ICO and corporate projects) is a joke. What part of 11 MILLION premine killing the coin don't you get? No one cares if it's 'community owned', it's 100% unnecessary, and the 'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.

With the 4x longer block time than Ether, and literally NO word on what makes this coin 'better for your purposes' than Ether a Premine over 100k is a complete no-go for most people. Look at what happened to Shift (the first Ether copy-paste) and block-times, price and premine. Yeah, it's pretty much dead already because there is NO profit to be made from mining with 250k coins hanging in the air and price tanking.

TLDR: 'Fairly distributed' , 11 million coin premine. ROTFL!

I have to agree with this, and I could be wrong but I don't think Shift's 250k premine has had that much of an effect on the market. Without a block explorer that can show info on accounts it's hard to tell.

Some ideas like waiting 3 months for any payment sound nice if you don't think about it, but that also means we would have less incentive to be competitive until 3 months later. (no incentive actually) Which means it is a terrible idea. We will be revealing more in the future and the first months are critical.

We are quite experienced in cryptos, and whatever FUD people might want to use to trick people into not mining or buying it, just be aware they have their own agendas. Make your own choices and do your own research, but people are wasting time if they think we will change the project as they would design it. If they want to change it later, that option is available by holding Expanse and voting, or proving they have the talent to join the Advisor Board.

I don't really want to compare projects or FUD other efforts, but there is a critical flaw for those not having enough funding for development for any long term project. If people don't understand that, that is ok, I can assure you we have a lot of experience with this and the plan is solid for the long term. Once again, just wait if you have doubts or fears, you should be able to mine or buy it in the future just fine and have lots more data to go on.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: gioma on September 10, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
Graphic style is awesome in this release!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 10, 2015, 09:39:23 PM
there is a miner for the CPU or only from the wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
there is a miner for the CPU or only from the wallet?

cpu and gpu will work


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lcall7 on September 10, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
there is a miner for the CPU or only from the wallet?

cpu and gpu will work

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop

Funny guy ;) coder (probably not) that also runs windows ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 10, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
Hey all,

I'm stuck right here for more than 15 minutes now

Quote
21321 nat.go:111] mapped network port udp:42786 -> 42786 (expanse discovery) using UPNP IGDv1-PPP1

can someone help please? Thanks a lot! :)



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
Hey all,

I'm stuck right here for more than 15 minutes now

Quote
21321 nat.go:111] mapped network port udp:42786 -> 42786 (expanse discovery) using UPNP IGDv1-PPP1

can someone help please? Thanks a lot! :)



sometimes it just takes a while to finish loading


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 10, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
Ok.. so I'm gonna wait a little while then haha!
Thanks for the (very) quick answer ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 09:52:00 PM
I'm getting this error when I try to add peers:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786"'

Same with the other peer:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786"'


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 09:53:51 PM
I'm getting this error when I try to add peers:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786"'

Same with the other peer:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786"'

you have to be at the console so

in go-expanse

Code:
build/bin/gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

it will load the console for you, then you can run the gexp js console command there.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 10, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
there is a miner for the CPU or only from the wallet?

cpu and gpu will work

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop

Funny guy ;) coder (probably not) that also runs windows ;)

http://memecrunch.com/meme/20X3/nuthugger-jimmy/image.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 10:09:15 PM
So, the launch will be 5pm PST on 9/13?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 10, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
Makes 30 minutes now, is there anything I can try?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 10:13:29 PM
Makes 30 minutes now, is there anything I can try?

ctrl+c out and reopen it


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 10, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
So, the launch will be 5pm PST on 9/13?

Yes, that is correct. The test launch is running now so you can also test any settings in advance if you like.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
I'm getting this error when I try to add peers:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786"'

Same with the other peer:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786"'

you have to be at the console so

in go-expanse

Code:
build/bin/gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

it will load the console for you, then you can run the gexp js console command there.

Thanks, I could only add your peer, defaced, the other one doesn't show.

I already started the miner, but how do I know is working? or how do I figure out the hash rate?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 10:17:53 PM
So, the launch will be 5pm PST on 9/13?

Yes, that is correct. The test launch is running now so you can also test any settings in advance if you like.

Thanks, cool...

I'm confident enoug when the official launch to just point the miners with the proper settings... 8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 10:20:20 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea to have images with a guide/wiki to set up on different platforms: OSX, Windows and Linux....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 10, 2015, 10:22:08 PM
Finally I'm mining:

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
16

Now, can I try ethminer here in Testnet? or that only will work until launch day?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 10:25:18 PM
I'm getting this error when I try to add peers:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786"'

Same with the other peer:

ubu@ubu:~/go-expanse$ admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `"enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786"'

you have to be at the console so

in go-expanse

Code:
build/bin/gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

it will load the console for you, then you can run the gexp js console command there.

Thanks, I could only add your peer, defaced, the other one doesn't show.

I already started the miner, but how do I know is working? or how do I figure out the hash rate?

Lots of commands

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/JavaScript-Console



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 10:26:21 PM
Finally I'm mining:

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
16

Now, can I try ethminer here in Testnet? or that only will work until launch day?

good work man! you mined 2 blocks. Hell yea :D

ethminer should work and I encourage you to try it out and report back if anything strange happens.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 10, 2015, 10:26:26 PM


It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

You forgot the 1.1 million coins you will have at launch. If you want trust, remove that part. Or dodge that question again.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 10, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea to have a images with a guide/wiki to set up on different platforms: OSX, Windows and Linux....

I agree, that is a good idea. I believe Dan is working on something, but I forwarded your suggestion as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 10, 2015, 10:28:44 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea to have a images with a guide/wiki to set up on different platforms: OSX, Windows and Linux....

I agree, that is a good idea. I believe Dan is working on something, but I forwarded your suggestion as well.

If time permits, maybe even videos.... 8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Odd Thomas on September 10, 2015, 10:29:32 PM
In both Eth and Shift you dont have to generate the genesis block. Each of them also have compiled windows binaries. Will you clone from the more recent code and provide compiled windows binaries at launch? Many people want to help you test and cant right now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 10, 2015, 10:30:18 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea to have a images with a guide/wiki to set up on different platforms: OSX, Windows and Linux....

I agree, that is a good idea. I believe Dan is working on something, but I forwarded your suggestion as well.

If time permits, maybe even videos.... 8)

Well, might not be time for videos as some other things are in progress, but eventually that is something that would be nice on the website.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 10, 2015, 10:32:28 PM


lol i'll only have 1 million. But I like the sound of 1.1. Guess im a little low on evasion today.

125,000 blocks worth to dump right at launch? At 60 second block time it will take miners how long to match that? Why don't you show people the math of that one.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 10, 2015, 10:41:53 PM
Makes 30 minutes now, is there anything I can try?

ctrl+c out and reopen it

Done and still the same :-/
Is there a way to compile without UPNP?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Odd Thomas on September 10, 2015, 10:44:05 PM
When will compiled windows binary be provided for testing?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 10:44:22 PM
In both Eth and Shift you dont have to generate the genesis block. Each of them also have compiled windows binaries. Will you clone from the more recent code and provide compiled windows binaries at launch? Many people want to help you test and cant right now.

This is also a testnet and we will also have those things too :)

I'll rebase with the latest eth changes aswell.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 10:44:44 PM
Makes 30 minutes now, is there anything I can try?

ctrl+c out and reopen it

Done and still the same :-/
Is there a way to compile without UPNP?


what cmd are you using to start gexp?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 10, 2015, 10:45:24 PM
Ubuntu 14.04
Terminal -­> go1.4


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Ubuntu 14.04
Terminal -­> go1.4

did you load the genesis and everything?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 10, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
Ubuntu 14.04
Terminal -­> go1.4

did you load the genesis and everything?

This is the line I'm getting a problem with :
Quote
build/bin/gexp --genesis test_genesis.json


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Odd Thomas on September 10, 2015, 11:33:14 PM


This is also a testnet and we will also have those things too :)

I'll rebase with the latest eth changes aswell.

Will the release code and compiled windows binary be tested prior to launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 11:41:27 PM


This is also a testnet and we will also have those things too :)

I'll rebase with the latest eth changes aswell.

Will the release code and compiled windows binary be tested prior to launch?

Yes it will be.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Bagdar13 on September 10, 2015, 11:45:04 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 10, 2015, 11:52:55 PM
ok i have still no peers, port is forwarded (udp) and i added both peers.
Can u add me maybe with my nodeurl?

"enode://a70a1af4753758ac65faafe849faa1bb030cda10749692bf4cf48f1240f9e38927c19bf6019c66b0664ed6037128d6554c70af056781404fc36145804718dbf9@85.127.45.88:42786",

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 11:57:41 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.


We are exploring other ideas. One idea that has popped up in our slack chat was to take the 1.1m we are getting up front and locking up 1m in a founders dao and have it drip to us on a regularly basis that way the community funds are spent completely democratically and independently of the founders reserve. Which would leave 100k initially to pay bounties with.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 10, 2015, 11:58:37 PM
ok i have still no peers, port is forwarded (udp) and i added both peers.
Can u add me maybe with my nodeurl?

"enode://a70a1af4753758ac65faafe849faa1bb030cda10749692bf4cf48f1240f9e38927c19bf6019c66b0664ed6037128d6554c70af056781404fc36145804718dbf9@85.127.45.88:42786",

thanks

you should have a couple peers now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 11, 2015, 12:00:26 AM
working :) thanks man


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 12:01:07 AM
working :) thanks man

try to break it :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 11, 2015, 12:03:45 AM
so can i mine ethereum with this too?? same algo and such ... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 11, 2015, 01:23:25 AM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.


We are exploring other ideas. One idea that has popped up in our slack chat was to take the 1.1m we are getting up front and locking up 1m in a founders dao and have it drip to us on a regularly basis that way the community funds are spent completely democratically and independently of the founders reserve. Which would leave 100k initially to pay bounties with.

I like it, we would be holding most anyway with the original plan as this is a long term project, but this way people should have *much* less concern since it would be enforced by smart contracts. (I disagree about having an ICO, but I think releasing the founders reserve slowly over time would be a good change and help with trust)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Zackgeno96 on September 11, 2015, 01:25:04 AM
has there been a window release yet? if so can someone quote me to the post, thanks in advance  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Wicked Sick on September 11, 2015, 01:32:40 AM
Where windows compile?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 11, 2015, 01:40:41 AM
has there been a window release yet? if so can someone quote me to the post, thanks in advance  ;)

I believe Franko was getting it ready, I will forward the question to him.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Shame_Game on September 11, 2015, 02:13:08 AM
Day of testing down and still no windows.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 11, 2015, 04:17:06 AM
Day of testing down and still no windows.



Testing went fine for Linux and Windows is coming soon. (This is just testing)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 11, 2015, 05:02:46 AM


Testing went fine for Linux and Windows is coming soon. (This is just testing)

Windows needs at least as much testing as Linux if not more. If you cant compile windows you need to delay the launch.





 


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: yudhistira on September 11, 2015, 05:03:39 AM
Why every new crypto run under linux first ???
most of miners used windows

just waiting for windows compiled


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TrinityCoin on September 11, 2015, 05:06:29 AM
Why every new crypto run under linux first ???
most of miners used windows

just waiting for windows compiled

I believe they said this is just the testing phase not the actual release


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 11, 2015, 06:14:48 AM
Why every new crypto run under linux first ???
most of miners used windows

just waiting for windows compiled

I believe they said this is just the testing phase not the actual release

Yes, this is just testing, and we will have windows testing as well in advance. Don't worry. :)



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 11, 2015, 06:48:25 AM
When will you compile for windows testing?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Jerry S on September 11, 2015, 07:05:25 AM
i still dont get what the test means? is it to test the wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 11, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
i still dont get what the test means? is it to test the wallet?


Yes, and also

to set-up an army of amazon AWS instances
to have the wallet perfectly synced and "peered" and switch from testnet to the real genesis block in a second after the launch, while you're still waiting the compiled win wallet with hard coded peers and auto-genesis block.
Maybe to ban some IP range during the first minutes too lol

Then it will take several hours for you to sync, you will se "I can't sync !!!! no peers !!!! I mined the wrong chain whyyyyyyy ???"  everywhere here ..at least during 150 pages.


Maybe you'll find a block at the end of the day ... then switch to this super new pool ... but mine nothing because ddos during 3 days !

finaly, after 3 days wihtout sleep and 24 EXP in your wallet , you'll buy on exchanges ...


of course i'm jocking, it's satirical, i'm a troll ... ^^


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 11:09:35 AM


Testing went fine for Linux and Windows is coming soon. (This is just testing)

Windows needs at least as much testing as Linux if not more. If you cant compile windows you need to delay the launch.
 

Who cant compile the windows wallet?

http://i.imgur.com/cdrpVAk.png (http://imgur.com/cdrpVAk)

Anyone can.. and there is even 2 guides.

How to cross compile
with Docker and xgo

Code:
go get github.com/karalabe/xgo
git clone https://www.github.com/karalabe/xgo.git
cd xgo
docker build -t karalabe/xgo-base ./docker/base
docker build -t karalabe/xgo-1.5.1 ./docker/go-1.5.1
xgo --go 1.5.1 --pkg=cmd/gexp --branch=develop --deps=https://gmplib.org/download/gmp/gmp-6.0.0a.tar.bz2 github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Billyboy402 on September 11, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
will you be running the shift GUI wallet ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 11:34:21 AM
will you be running the shift GUI wallet ?

Dan is working on a beautiful gui wallet, not sure if it will be ready by launch time but Iknow it shouldnt be too far off.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 11:34:46 AM
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP

Builds for every os guys, have fun!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 11, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP

Builds for every os guys, have fun!

This is great news! Now I can finally check it out on my Windows laptop. This is going to be epic!!  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 12:09:33 PM
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP

Builds for every os guys, have fun!

This is great news! Now I can finally check it out on my Windows laptop. This is going to be epic!!  :D

Glad you are excited :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 11, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
I got it
start C:\wallet\gexp-windows-amd64.exe --rpc --rpcaddr "127.0.0.1" --rpcport 9659 console
http://i.imgur.com/LOcT24f.png
cd C:\wallet
gexp-windows-amd64.exe account new
http://i.imgur.com/sRzNMFy.png
http://i.imgur.com/a9mnj8H.png
I did everything correctly?
what's next?
how to start mining on the CPU?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: OzDigger on September 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Start Etherminer........ point it at the gexp-windows............. ip and port.

I have 110m mining atm, gives errors Invalid header on a mined block so nothing added to the wallet etc.

if you want to check your balance ( after you have created a new account) use the following command line in the console.

web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase), "expanse")

Will wait for release as no benefit in mining atm.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
Start Etherminer........ point it at the gexp-windows............. ip and port.

I have 110m mining atm, gives errors Invalid header on a mined block so nothing added to the wallet etc.

if you want to check your balance ( after you have created a new account) use the following command line in the console.

web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase), "expanse")

Will wait for release as no benefit in mining atm.

hmmm interesting


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:29:20 PM
I got it
start C:\wallet\gexp-windows-amd64.exe --rpc --rpcaddr "127.0.0.1" --rpcport 9659 console
http://i.imgur.com/LOcT24f.png
cd C:\wallet
gexp-windows-amd64.exe account new
http://i.imgur.com/sRzNMFy.png
http://i.imgur.com/a9mnj8H.png
I did everything correctly?
what's next?
how to start mining on the CPU?

have you mined any blocks yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:30:32 PM
Me GPU mining on windows to a linux daemon on my local network

http://i.imgur.com/AxQx4et.png (http://imgur.com/AxQx4et)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 11, 2015, 03:38:21 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.


We are exploring other ideas. One idea that has popped up in our slack chat was to take the 1.1m we are getting up front and locking up 1m in a founders dao and have it drip to us on a regularly basis that way the community funds are spent completely democratically and independently of the founders reserve. Which would leave 100k initially to pay bounties with.

I think this solution is a better one and I hope you go through with it. A stronger market for the Expanse token means a stronger Expanse network.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 11, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
I got it
start C:\wallet\gexp-windows-amd64.exe --rpc --rpcaddr "127.0.0.1" --rpcport 9659 console
http://i.imgur.com/LOcT24f.png
cd C:\wallet
gexp-windows-amd64.exe account new
http://i.imgur.com/sRzNMFy.png
http://i.imgur.com/a9mnj8H.png
I did everything correctly?
what's next?
how to start mining on the CPU?

have you mined any blocks yet?
no. don't know how to start mining!
ethminer suitable for mining on the CPU?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:40:53 PM
I think this solution is a better one and I hope you go through with it. A stronger market for the Expanse token means a stronger Expanse network.

It is what we are going to do.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: mirny on September 11, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
I got it
start C:\wallet\gexp-windows-amd64.exe --rpc --rpcaddr "127.0.0.1" --rpcport 9659 console
http://i.imgur.com/LOcT24f.png
cd C:\wallet
gexp-windows-amd64.exe account new
http://i.imgur.com/sRzNMFy.png
http://i.imgur.com/a9mnj8H.png
I did everything correctly?
what's next?
how to start mining on the CPU?

for CPU try this: ethminer.exe -C -t 2 -F http://localhost:9659


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:42:47 PM
ethminer suitable for mining on the CPU?

yes it is


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
anyone who has their node up, give me your enode:// address


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ZonedOutSpace on September 11, 2015, 03:44:01 PM
anyone who has their node up, give me your enode:// address

I'll bring up 3 test nodes give me 5


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 03:48:26 PM
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93d b7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.107:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "84.79.205.80:52076"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e984746694 73c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.107:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "91.178.168.226:51371"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783 bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.107:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-452e263d/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.217.136:46933"
}]


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ZonedOutSpace on September 11, 2015, 03:51:50 PM
anyone who has their node up, give me your enode:// address

I'll bring up 3 test nodes give me 5

awesome

First: enode://d970f159edd85e4d8b1                                                                                        f13882cd25f09b5814c8d31f10e15bea651d03eb43a0f1a5d2b604f798bb34b1ce4adfaf0cd0b30 7                                                                  abd04d4879491e243ec542afc3876

Second: enode://74c6e666cb4486d9f45                                                                                        e4382db9d053028c68419fcdea3b1486fbc63a9ece5c83ae4d44f5c18b96564883401c2ac05bb84 b                                                                                        7b0282638c0d38d60d9b15bc56c23


Third: enode://142c16a5a479ee90d32                                                                                        66fc372f9f6251c8c8d1cbc3ffcec5e4985e4caada8cab9654bc3550eade1db1c1abcb6f3773947 f                                                                                        6f27528fb4571d812b40ba9c84973


Any blocks found?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MrEggman on September 11, 2015, 03:55:35 PM
anyone who has their node up, give me your enode:// address

I'll bring up 3 test nodes give me 5

awesome

First: enode://d970f159edd85e4d8b1                                                                                        f13882cd25f09b5814c8d31f10e15bea651d03eb43a0f1a5d2b604f798bb34b1ce4adfaf0cd0b30 7                                                                  abd04d4879491e243ec542afc3876

admin.addPeer("enode://d970f159edd85e4d8b1f13882cd25f09b5814c8d31f10e15bea651d03eb43a0f1a5d2b604f798bb34b1ce4adfaf0cd0b307abd04d4879491e243ec542afc3876@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 11, 2015, 04:34:45 PM
when i try to send coins

> exp.coinbase
"0xaa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213"
> exp.coinbase
"0xaa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213"
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
1408
> exp.sendTransaction({from:"0xaa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213", to:"0xa19c50a7b01dabc3655fc76cd61d483c2ef79693", value: 100})
Unlock account aa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213
Passphrase:
Exceeds block gas limit
    at InvalidResponse (<anonymous>:-81335:-134)
    at send (<anonymous>:-154754:-134)
    at sendTransaction (<anonymous>:-131919:-134)
    at <anonymous>:1:1


post some adress pls


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 04:43:45 PM
when i try to send coins

> exp.coinbase
"0xaa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213"
> exp.coinbase
"0xaa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213"
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
1408
> exp.sendTransaction({from:"0xaa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213", to:"0xa19c50a7b01dabc3655fc76cd61d483c2ef79693", value: 100})
Unlock account aa3c52e3ff93e02eaae32d5630ae2cdd91c19213
Passphrase:
Exceeds block gas limit
    at InvalidResponse (<anonymous>:-81335:-134)
    at send (<anonymous>:-154754:-134)
    at sendTransaction (<anonymous>:-131919:-134)
    at <anonymous>:1:1


post some adress pls

0x656a2b5ed407c26e7c04d9e5449edd3109c99506


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 11, 2015, 05:00:40 PM
Start Etherminer........ point it at the gexp-windows............. ip and port.

How do you do that? what is the command for that?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 11, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
Will you provide windows binaries at official launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 11, 2015, 05:05:02 PM


More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.



I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.


We are exploring other ideas. One idea that has popped up in our slack chat was to take the 1.1m we are getting up front and locking up 1m in a founders dao and have it drip to us on a regularly basis that way the community funds are spent completely democratically and independently of the founders reserve. Which would leave 100k initially to pay bounties with.

I think this solution is a better one and I hope you go through with it. A stronger market for the Expanse token means a stronger Expanse network.

Yes, I agree, we had gone over this stuff internally before and it doesn't matter to the team as we trust each other, but it would help with outsiders that don't know us. I think this is pretty much a done deal, 100k at start for the team, rest slowly over time. It would be a much smaller available reserve at start, but over the long run it would still be fair for us. This would give more spaced out funding over time and should also remove concerns people might have over the team having too many votes too soon. I also like that the smart contracts are almost like a time locked safe with many doors, and that keeps the reserves of EXP totally safe from anything that could potentially go wrong, which means everyone involved is more secure and safe.

EDIT: FAQ is updated with this change, 100k only at launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 11, 2015, 05:30:02 PM
Will you provide windows binaries at official launch?

Yes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 11, 2015, 06:00:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VY6WYhW.png
what and how to connect the nodes?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 11, 2015, 07:18:14 PM
Me GPU mining on windows to a linux daemon on my local network

http://i.imgur.com/AxQx4et.png (http://imgur.com/AxQx4et)

How can I GPU mine?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 11, 2015, 07:20:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VY6WYhW.png
what and how to connect the nodes?

Try adding this node:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 11, 2015, 07:39:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VY6WYhW.png
what and how to connect the nodes?

Try adding this node:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
http://i.imgur.com/2o4qjSr.png
not added
I don't understand is mined or not


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 11, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VY6WYhW.png
what and how to connect the nodes?

Try adding this node:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
http://i.imgur.com/2o4qjSr.png
not added
I don't understand is mined or not


You're mining, you already have mined 2 blocks, hence your balance of 16. The weird thing is that doesn't show the peers, but as far that I can tell, you are mining.

Edit: Unless you already had those 16 tokens


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 11, 2015, 08:41:12 PM
Could anyone post list of nodes? I see one node but it doesn't synchronizing the blocks.

For the live launch:

1. will there be a new "go-expanse"/gexp to install?

2. will we have to manually add nodes, or few nodes are already entred in the code?

3. Do we have to delete some "test" files when we go live, or the will be overwrite?

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 08:49:50 PM
Could anyone post list of nodes? I see one node but it doesn't synchronizing the blocks.

For the live launch:

1. will there be a new "go-expanse"/gexp to install?

2. will we have to manually add nodes, or few nodes are already entred in the code?

3. Do we have to delete some "test" files when we go live, or the will be overwrite?

Thanks!

Shouldnt have to delete anything, there will be a new build with some bootnodes hardcoded, a new genesis etc.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 08:50:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VY6WYhW.png
what and how to connect the nodes?

Try adding this node:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
http://i.imgur.com/2o4qjSr.png
not added
I don't understand is mined or not


You're mining, you already have mined 2 blocks, hence your balance of 16. The weird thing is that doesn't show the peers, but as far that I can tell, you are mining.

Edit: Unless you already had those 16 tokens

yall are connected to someone, not me, it says you are on block 3. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 08:54:03 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 11, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")


Any idea why i see only

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "10.0.1.8:37763",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 11, 2015, 09:00:10 PM
Could anyone post list of nodes? I see one node but it doesn't synchronizing the blocks.

For the live launch:

1. will there be a new "go-expanse"/gexp to install?

2. will we have to manually add nodes, or few nodes are already entred in the code?

3. Do we have to delete some "test" files when we go live, or the will be overwrite?

Thanks!

Shouldnt have to delete anything, there will be a new build with some bootnodes hardcoded, a new genesis etc.

And where can we download the new genesis block in real time?
I mean the real real time ? here ? https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 11, 2015, 09:05:52 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")


Any idea why i see only

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "10.0.1.8:37763",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


same here
I can only see the node "f944c67..."


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 11, 2015, 09:19:43 PM
I tried to mine with ethminer:

ethminer -G -F localhost:42786

got error

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  23:18:19|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 52

The server is running. What's wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 09:25:09 PM
same here
I can only see the node "f944c67..."

thats my node so atleast you can find that one :)

Makes me wonder why yall arnt finding each other though.. and why my node isnt gossiping.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 11, 2015, 09:26:49 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")


Any idea why i see only

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "10.0.1.8:37763",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


same here
I can only see the node "f944c67..."

This is normal, the network is not large enough. You can do what you want the problem will be fixed only when there'll be enough nodes.
it looks like the c++ nodes discovery neighbours packets are discarded because the timeout for discovery packets is too low.
this is why the ETH launch was international and not so easy ...
It will run better with more nodes.

But maybe i'm talking shit , i'm still a troll


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
I tried to mine with ethminer:

ethminer -G -F localhost:42786

got error

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  23:18:19|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 52

The server is running. What's wrong?


42786 is the port, try connecting to the rpc port 9656

I set my own rpcport when starting.

Code:
./gexp --rpc --rpcport 1337 console 2>exp.log


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 09:28:58 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")


Any idea why i see only

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "10.0.1.8:37763",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


same here
I can only see the node "f944c67..."

This is normal, the network is not large enough. You can do what you want the problem will be fixed only when there'll be enough nodes.
it looks like the c++ nodes discovery neighbours packets are discarded because the timeout for discovery packets is too low.
this is why the ETH launch was international and not so easy ...
It will run better with more nodes.

But maybe i'm talking shit , i'm still a troll

That's actually a good point. I think what the best thing for me to do is spin up like 5 droplets all around the world, have them all connect to each other then hardcode them.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 11, 2015, 09:52:19 PM
I tried to mine with ethminer:

ethminer -G -F localhost:42786

got error

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  23:18:19|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 52

The server is running. What's wrong?


42786 is the port, try connecting to the rpc port 9656

I set my own rpcport when starting.

Code:
./gexp --rpc --rpcport 1337 console 2>exp.log

if you take the correct port, it works well  ;)

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 11, 2015, 10:01:39 PM
I tried to mine with ethminer:

ethminer -G -F localhost:42786

got error

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  23:18:19|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 52

The server is running. What's wrong?


42786 is the port, try connecting to the rpc port 9656

I set my own rpcport when starting.

Code:
./gexp --rpc --rpcport 1337 console 2>exp.log

if you take the correct port, it works well  ;)

Thanks

you're welcome


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 11, 2015, 10:39:01 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")


The first and the last nodes are the same.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 11, 2015, 10:41:00 PM
I tried to mine with ethminer:

ethminer -G -F localhost:42786

got error

JSON-RPC problem. Probably couldn't connect. Retrying in 1...
miner  23:18:19|ethminer  Getting work package...
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Failed to submit hashrate.
  ✘  23:18:24|ethminer  Dynamic exception type: jsonrpc::JsonRpcException
std::exception::what: Exception -32003 : Client connector error: libcurl error: 52

The server is running. What's wrong?


42786 is the port, try connecting to the rpc port 9656

I set my own rpcport when starting.

Code:
./gexp --rpc --rpcport 1337 console 2>exp.log

if you take the correct port, it works well  ;)

Thanks

So, which port did you used?

Edit: NVM, I just realized that using the suggestion defaced made, it works out, thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Qbanow on September 11, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
I got this message installing go1.4 "Stop! go1.4 is not a valid candidate" How can I solve this problem, I'm using ubunto 15.04 OS
help please!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 12:16:08 AM
How do you generate the genesis block in console? What I used on original ethereum doesn't work on this one.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 12:24:37 AM
How do you generate the genesis block in console? What I used on original ethereum doesn't work on this one.

gexp --genesis test_genesis.json


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 12:29:43 AM
How do you generate the genesis block in console? What I used on original ethereum doesn't work on this one.

gexp --genesis test_genesis.json

I get fatal error- the system cannot find the file specified



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoSiD on September 12, 2015, 12:41:13 AM
How do you generate the genesis block in console? What I used on original ethereum doesn't work on this one.

gexp --genesis test_genesis.json

I get fatal error- the system cannot find the file specified



--genesis is loading a genesis block file, need to download one first, dev didn't provide a link for it?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 01:05:46 AM
Figured it out through genesis and account creation, thanks.

Can't get node to work as yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 01:43:26 AM
Added all working nodes posted, no dice.

net.listening true
net.peerCount still 0 every time.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 12, 2015, 01:52:04 AM
Added all working nodes posted, no dice.

net.listening true
net.peerCount still 0 every time.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

Have you checked everything in here?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 02:01:59 AM
Added all working nodes posted, no dice.

net.listening true
net.peerCount still 0 every time.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

Have you checked everything in here?

Yup, nothing has resolved it.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 02:05:52 AM
Added all working nodes posted, no dice.

net.listening true
net.peerCount still 0 every time.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

Have you checked everything in here?

Yup, nothing has resolved it.



Same problem.
Adding nodes still gives null answer.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 02:09:52 AM
Added all working nodes posted, no dice.

net.listening true
net.peerCount still 0 every time.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

Have you checked everything in here?

Yup, nothing has resolved it.



Same problem.
Adding nodes still gives null answer.

I tried adding static-nodes.json in the roaming folder with the nodes in there, no change, still 0 nodes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jadedjack on September 12, 2015, 02:52:52 AM
Added all working nodes posted, no dice.

net.listening true
net.peerCount still 0 every time.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

Have you checked everything in here?

Yup, nothing has resolved it.



Same problem.
Adding nodes still gives null answer.

I tried adding static-nodes.json in the roaming folder with the nodes in there, no change, still 0 nodes.

try these two
Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://753d7d97ffc944edf42b676731b28e059d669484eb16e4526778f83e72d35922dee01b2967722e640a4a210e923aecdb4e4962b2d70fd2ca5dc2d911590e0737@[::]:42786")

admin.addPeer("enode://5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 03:17:03 AM
No luck.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoSiD on September 12, 2015, 07:22:44 AM
> {eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
true
> {9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
true
> {1afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
true
> {0850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
true
> {eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
true
> admin.peers
null
> admin.peers
null
> admin.peers
null
> admin.peers
null
> {1afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
true
> admin.peers
null
> admin.peers
null
> {ee01b2967722e640a4a210e923aecdb4e4962b2d70fd2ca5dc2d911590e0737@[::]:42786")
true
>
> {88d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@[::]:42786")
true
> admin.peers
null
>


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 12, 2015, 07:45:48 AM
Can i just get confirmation that the launch in the OP is correct still?  12am Midnight Sunday UTC? making it 10am Monday in Aus?




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: yudhistira on September 12, 2015, 07:49:48 AM
working well on win64
mined my first block

I hope dev have a bright future for this coin

http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/1442043814716.jpg (http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/1442043814716.jpg)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 12, 2015, 07:51:42 AM
working well on win64
mined my first block

I hope dev have a bright future for this coin

http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/1442043814716.jpg (http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/1442043814716.jpg)

Great now i know it`s working and going to set solo mining :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: yudhistira on September 12, 2015, 08:05:22 AM
What's the "remote agent" means ??

http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/1442045089820.jpg (http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/1442045089820.jpg)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 12, 2015, 08:18:26 AM
working well on win64
mined my first block

I hope dev have a bright future for this coin




Dev said nodes aren't working on win exe. How did you get it to work?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 12, 2015, 12:08:35 PM
Not syncing here either on Windows...


-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 12, 2015, 12:26:47 PM
fuck why not connect the nodes on win 64?
anyone connected to the network test on windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 12:36:26 PM
fuck why not connect the nodes on win 64?
anyone connected to the network test on windows?


windows or linux, it does not matter, the problem is elsewhere ...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Launch of the coin should be postponed until the node connection issue is resolved.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 12, 2015, 12:56:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VY6WYhW.png
what and how to connect the nodes?

Try adding this node:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


This node works for me.  I'm synced now.  Thanks.

-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 01:28:04 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 01:32:33 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 01:39:20 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.

I'll talk with the others about it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 01:42:42 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.

I'll talk with the others about it.

Thanks!

We want the launch to be FAIR. Doesn't look like much testing was done.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 01:45:30 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.

I'll talk with the others about it.

Thanks!

We want the launch to be FAIR. Doesn't look like much testing was done.

Wait.. what? Lol.. thats what we are doing right now man.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 12, 2015, 01:59:48 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.

I'll talk with the others about it.

Thanks!

We want the launch to be FAIR. Doesn't look like much testing was done.

Wait.. what? Lol.. thats what we are doing right now man.

I'm mining on testnet right now...  I'm ready.   ;D

-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.

I'll talk with the others about it.

Thanks!

We want the launch to be FAIR. Doesn't look like much testing was done.

Wait.. what? Lol.. thats what we are doing right now man.

I'm mining on testnet right now...  I'm ready.   ;D

-tb-

how many nodes are you connected too?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: yudhistira on September 12, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
what is nodes?
how to mining with nodes?
whether the miners I've been running correctly?
if my coin will be lost at launch?

http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/144206866370.jpg (http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3h/144206866370.jpg)



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 02:41:16 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

First launch clean node (without peers connected or admin.addPeer("enode:// ... or bootnodes)
launch this node with --vmodule=udp=6,server=6,downloader=6 console


 >>> then try to add 'problematic node' for ex admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")


I0912 10:27:40.704880    2840 server.go:624] dyn dial conn 0055fd5099543df0 [::1
]:42786 failed checkpoint posthandshake: Connected to self

>>> Now try with the working node : this one admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


> I0912 10:29:05.517708    2840 server.go:475] <-posthandshake: static dial conn
 f944c6702a78a0cb 74.196.59.103:42786
I0912 10:29:05.519694    2840 server.go:481] <-addpeer: static dial conn f944c67
02a78a0cb 74.196.59.103:42786
I0912 10:29:05.520124    2840 server.go:670] Added Peer f944c6702a78a0cb 74.196.
59.103:42786
I0912 10:29:05.520515    2840 server.go:465] <-taskdone: static dial f944c6702a7
8a0cb 74.196.59.103:42786
I0912 10:29:05.624936    2840 downloader.go:215] Registering peer f944c6702a78a0
cb
I0912 10:29:08.564406    2840 server.go:465] <-taskdone: discovery lookup (1 res
ults)
I0912 10:29:08.564950    2840 server.go:431] new task: discovery lookup
I0912 10:29:11.954980    2840 downloader.go:237] Attempting synchronisation: f94
4c6702a78a0cb, head 0x6b5c6511, TD 70648672834
I0912 10:29:11.955575    2840 downloader.go:278] Block synchronisation started
I0912 10:29:11.956055    2840 downloader.go:322] Synchronizing with the network
using: f944c6702a78a0cb, exp/61


No error for this one.

So conclusion : Encryption handshake problem.

What it coulb be? lot of reasons ...




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 12, 2015, 02:49:57 PM
how many nodes are you connected too?

I'm connected to only one node, but tried all the other nodes mentioned in this thread.

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:33095",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 12, 2015, 02:52:03 PM
2 minutes later (with the same running server instance):

> admin.peers
null
> admin.peers
null
> admin.peers
null
> I0912 16:48:19.542541   29792 chain_manager.go:661] imported 0 block(s) (0 queued 1 ignored) including 0 txs in 9.543578ms. #888 [1dd75bcd / 1dd75bcd]
> admin.peers
null
>


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 12, 2015, 02:56:43 PM
Now again:
> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:34810",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


Could it be that the nodes given in the OP have not network port (42786) opened in the firewall ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 12, 2015, 02:57:17 PM
Something i'm noticing is that my mainnode, the one all yall are connecting too, is getting tons of connections. My other nodes however are only connecting to my main node and nothing else. I didnt change anything about how nodes gossip with each other, or peer discovery, which then makes me wonder why this is happening.

I'm connected to both linux and windows nodes.

Please delay the launch by 48 hours until the issue is resolved.

I'll talk with the others about it.

Thanks!

We want the launch to be FAIR. Doesn't look like much testing was done.

Wait.. what? Lol.. thats what we are doing right now man.

I'm mining on testnet right now...  I'm ready.   ;D

-tb-

how many nodes are you connected too?

Just the one I added manually.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 12, 2015, 03:03:17 PM
The running peer (ID: "f944c6702a78a...") has an IP (74.196.59.103) in the ID peer address, all other only [::] (IPv6 broadcast?)

How should my client connect the peer in a decentralized network?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 03:15:02 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://0055fd5099543df005a13ea5bec103def47340de81a6c1b0ba20f8ef756a7fe575b362976b1a52c9f561dda95321700a1c9e769004d25278ce53d2d6aa0b65b7@80.240.138.173:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 03:16:33 PM
Everyone admin.peers and see if you are connected to others now.. Also remember to portforward all UDP traffic for port 42786 for the machine hosting the node.

Also, everyone on linux

Code:
git pull origin
make gexp

then restart your node and see if you find some more peers ;)

I'll remake the windows binaries soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://0055fd5099543df005a13ea5bec103def47340de81a6c1b0ba20f8ef756a7fe575b362976b1a52c9f561dda95321700a1c9e769004d25278ce53d2d6aa0b65b7@80.240.138.173:42786")

this one will work 100% sure

just type admin.peers to confirm


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 03:41:30 PM
admin.addPeer("enode://0055fd5099543df005a13ea5bec103def47340de81a6c1b0ba20f8ef756a7fe575b362976b1a52c9f561dda95321700a1c9e769004d25278ce53d2d6aa0b65b7@80.240.138.173:42786")

this one will work 100% sure

just type admin.peers to confirm

Yes that works fine.
It is odd. I have three nodes.
Two nodes recognize each other and the third node as peers.
The third node does not recognize the other two nodes as peers.


I was noticing the same sort of behavior also. It is strange. Whats strange about it is, the behavior is inherited from ETH since I didnt change that stuff at all. I found though that once I forwarded all UDP traffic on my nodes, everything started working alot smoother.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
Everyone admin.peers and see if you are connected to others now.. Also remember to portforward all UDP traffic for port 42786 for the machine hosting the node.

Also, everyone on linux

Code:
git pull origin
make gexp

then restart your node and see if you find some more peers ;)

I'll remake the windows binaries soon.

Done that admin.peers   is null.

Did you hardcode nodes or we have to enter them maunaly?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 03:55:01 PM
Everyone admin.peers and see if you are connected to others now.. Also remember to portforward all UDP traffic for port 42786 for the machine hosting the node.

Also, everyone on linux

Code:
git pull origin
make gexp

then restart your node and see if you find some more peers ;)

I'll remake the windows binaries soon.

Done that admin.peers   is null.

Did you hardcode nodes or we have to enter them maunaly?


hardcoded like 6 of them. Did you set up your router to port forward?

Also you are on the develop branch right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: skunk on September 12, 2015, 04:08:40 PM
everything works fine here on lan without port forwarding:
Code:
instance: Gexp/v1.1.3-df8d5237/linux/go1.4.2
 datadir: /home/skunk/.expanse
coinbase: 0xe3d38133565af3acf698bb6f193a7c9d9269a8b3
at block: 905 (Sat, 12 Sep 2015 17:47:00 CEST)
modules: admin:1.0 db:1.0 debug:1.0 exp:1.0 miner:1.0 net:1.0 personal:1.0 shh:1.0 txpool:1.0 web3:1.0
> net.peerCount
4
> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.100.246:50910",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.100.246:45994",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-df8d5237/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.217.136:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.100.246:55798",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-ec3fb93c/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "138.128.169.51:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "6806712796f1e84b868d895c2f63b59ef90a7ae28ac3ce8a5dd4bf534778468652473882c9a0e0259ba0e7fb80257992031b5b5ed4f902f8dadc3bd0fe576732",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.100.246:53369",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-ec3fb93c/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "212.18.233.114:42786"
}]
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
240
will:
Code:
git pull
make
./build/bin/gexp account new
./build/bin/gexp --rpc
suffice on launch? or should i do something else?
thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Updated the windows builds.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP/gexp1.1.3-go1.5.1


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 04:32:02 PM
Everyone admin.peers and see if you are connected to others now.. Also remember to portforward all UDP traffic for port 42786 for the machine hosting the node.

Also, everyone on linux

Code:
git pull origin
make gexp

then restart your node and see if you find some more peers ;)

I'll remake the windows binaries soon.

Done that admin.peers   is null.

Did you hardcode nodes or we have to enter them maunaly?


hardcoded like 6 of them. Did you set up your router to port forward?

Also you are on the develop branch right?

Thanks for answering.

What is the port number for router forwarding? 42786?

I mined Etherum without the need for router setup.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 12, 2015, 04:44:49 PM
Updated the windows builds.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP/gexp1.1.3-go1.5.1
not working for me
the nodes are not connected


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 04:47:49 PM
Updated the windows builds.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP/gexp1.1.3-go1.5.1
not working for me
the nodes are not connected

Same here...

Windows and Linux installs. looking into router issues.

What is the port/s thats need to be open on my router?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 04:48:08 PM
Updated the windows builds.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP/gexp1.1.3-go1.5.1
not working for me
the nodes are not connected

Same here...

Windows and Linux installs. looking into router issues.

What is the port/s thats need to be open on my router?

just 42786 UDP


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 05:23:06 PM
42786 UDP

Still not working for me  ???

I opened it at my router.

I was able to mine Ethereum with no router setup. Did you make any changes to the way it connecting to peers?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Qbanow on September 12, 2015, 05:31:01 PM
These nodes are working:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@45.55.217.136:42786")



admin.addPeer("enode://5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@138.128.169.51:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://6806712796f1e84b868d895c2f63b59ef90a7ae28ac3ce8a5dd4bf534778468652473882c9a0e0259ba0e7fb80257992031b5b5ed4f902f8dadc3bd0fe576732@212.18.233.114:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 08:14:46 PM
Can some one able to connect to peers on the windows client please post the exact syntax, character for character, you are using upon startup?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 08:33:54 PM
Could we test mining with GPU or its only cpu for now?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
These nodes are working:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@45.55.217.136:42786")



admin.addPeer("enode://5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@138.128.169.51:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://6806712796f1e84b868d895c2f63b59ef90a7ae28ac3ce8a5dd4bf534778468652473882c9a0e0259ba0e7fb80257992031b5b5ed4f902f8dadc3bd0fe576732@212.18.233.114:42786")

Linux: after start up NULL nodes . Entered manually the above, only 3 show.

Windows: after startup NULL nodes. Entered manually the above NULL nodes.

Both are connected to the same router.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:40:28 PM
These nodes are working:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@45.55.217.136:42786")



admin.addPeer("enode://5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@138.128.169.51:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://6806712796f1e84b868d895c2f63b59ef90a7ae28ac3ce8a5dd4bf534778468652473882c9a0e0259ba0e7fb80257992031b5b5ed4f902f8dadc3bd0fe576732@212.18.233.114:42786")

Linux: after start up NULL nodes . Entered manually the above, only 3 show.

Windows: after startup NULL nodes. Entered manually the above NULL nodes.

Both are connected to the same router.

linux and windows both start for me with out having to add nodes. same router.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 08:42:25 PM
These nodes are working:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@45.55.217.136:42786")



admin.addPeer("enode://5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@138.128.169.51:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://6806712796f1e84b868d895c2f63b59ef90a7ae28ac3ce8a5dd4bf534778468652473882c9a0e0259ba0e7fb80257992031b5b5ed4f902f8dadc3bd0fe576732@212.18.233.114:42786")

Linux: after start up NULL nodes . Entered manually the above, only 3 show.

Windows: after startup NULL nodes. Entered manually the above NULL nodes.

Both are connected to the same router.

linux and windows both start for me with out having to add nodes. same router.

any idae what might cause the problems?

Router?
firewall?
Antivirus?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Wicked Sick on September 12, 2015, 08:43:29 PM
win wallet no peers


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 12, 2015, 08:44:01 PM
These nodes are working:

admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@45.55.217.136:42786")



admin.addPeer("enode://5da15ed702057b08c841857226a532b4169c3e248189a26585d4c7812887c8a2588d4e30092ebacdbaf2893acdae0910db92fd91b8c7df10ef7fd4a8b05b543f@138.128.169.51:42786")


admin.addPeer("enode://6806712796f1e84b868d895c2f63b59ef90a7ae28ac3ce8a5dd4bf534778468652473882c9a0e0259ba0e7fb80257992031b5b5ed4f902f8dadc3bd0fe576732@212.18.233.114:42786")

Linux: after start up NULL nodes . Entered manually the above, only 3 show.

Windows: after startup NULL nodes. Entered manually the above NULL nodes.

Both are connected to the same router.

linux and windows both start for me with out having to add nodes. same router.

Damn, you must have reaaaly nice router. What is it, so I can go buy the same to test mine expanse....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:44:42 PM
No idea because ive just tried it on 4 machines all find peers as soon as I load the newly compiled wallet that is on the repo.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:46:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5WYyZfR.png (http://imgur.com/5WYyZfR)

as you can see im connected to linux and windows nodes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 12, 2015, 08:51:23 PM
Peers only seem to be working at your house dev.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:53:29 PM
Peers only seem to be working at your house dev.



except... that server isnt located at my house ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:54:40 PM
This one is at my house

http://i.imgur.com/OVU7HRC.png (http://imgur.com/OVU7HRC)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 08:56:42 PM
Can some one able to connect to peers on the windows client please post the exact syntax, character for character, you are using upon startup?

Anyone able to do this? It could be something in the .bat that those with peers are using that the rest of us are not.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:59:22 PM
Quote
Common problems with connectivity:

Sometimes you just can't get connected. The most common reasons are as follows:
•Your local time might be incorrect. An accurate clock is required to participate in the Ethereum network. Check your OS for how to resync your clock (example sudo ntpdate -s time.nist.gov) because even 12 seconds too fast can lead to 0 peers.
•Some firewall configurations can prevent UDP traffic from flowing. You can use the static nodes feature or  admin.addPeer()  on the console to configure connections by hand.

To start geth without the discovery protocol, you can use the  --nodiscover  parameter. You only want this is you are running a test node or an experimental test network with fixed nodes.

from eth's wiki on connectivity


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
Can some one able to connect to peers on the windows client please post the exact syntax, character for character, you are using upon startup?

Anyone able to do this? It could be something in the .bat that those with peers are using that the rest of us are not.



gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 12, 2015, 09:02:12 PM
No idea because ive just tried it on 4 machines all find peers as soon as I load the newly compiled wallet that is on the repo.
Can you please list all your steps for an expanse-virgin Windows client?
Check mine - delete  ../Roaming/Expanse folder and following:
Code:
C:\_Mining\exp-windows-amd64>gexp-windows-amd64.exe account new
=======================================
Disclaimer....
.....
Do you accept this agreement? [y/N] y

Your new account is locked with a password. Please give a password. Do not forget this password.
Passphrase:
Repeat Passphrase:
Address: {284c2c30635f6924e6c0528454ba34389f2353b0}

C:\_Mining\exp-windows-amd64>gexp-windows-amd64.exe --rpc console 2>exp.log
instance: Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2
 datadir: C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Expanse
coinbase: 0x284c2c30635f6924e6c0528454ba34389f2353b0
at block: 0 (Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 EST)
modules: admin:1.0 db:1.0 debug:1.0 exp:1.0 miner:1.0 net:1.0 personal:1.0 shh:1.0 txpool:1.0 web3:1.0
> admin.peers
null
>









Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 12, 2015, 09:03:12 PM
- updated my gexp version from github
- port 45789 UDP is open
--> same behavior as before: no peers
- adding ID: "f944c67.." is successfull, other peers from OP not.

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:45789",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]

- adding node from herbitcoins admin.addPeer("enode://0055fd5099543df005a13ea5bec103def47340de81a6c1b0ba20f8ef756a7fe575b362976b1a52c9f561dda95321700a1c9e769004d25278ce53d2d6aa0b65b7@80.240.138.173:42786")
was successful, but now it seems to be offline

Could it be, that the IP address is mandatory ???



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 09:04:43 PM


gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

Still no peers.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 12, 2015, 09:05:19 PM
I tried to shiftcoin and soilcoin(also on the test network)
everything works perfectly
and you have a problem


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 09:07:36 PM
I tried to shiftcoin and soilcoin(also on the test network)
everything works perfectly
and you have a problem

soilcoin isnt a fork but ethereum on a different network_id

I didnt change anything to do with peer discovery.. My nodes also dont have a problem and if memory and the past post history serves this discussion well, you are the one who cant sync. :/


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 09:17:52 PM
I tried to shiftcoin and soilcoin(also on the test network)
everything works perfectly
and you have a problem

soilcoin isnt a fork but ethereum on a different network_id

I didnt change anything to do with peer discovery.. My nodes also dont have a problem and if memory and the past post history serves this discussion well, you are the one who cant sync. :/

This is not because the nodes are now hard coded that the problem is fixed.
you just added some adress on a list...
they are all blind ...
Also new nodes will not be discovered etc ...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
Think I found the problem that fixed the node issue in Linux!

it was router setup.

Ublock incoming IPv6 connections

net.peerCount
9

What protocol gexp is using IP4, IP6?

I still have the problem with Windows. Strange since both pc's are connected to the same router.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 12, 2015, 09:34:36 PM
Think I found the problem that fixed the node issue in Linux!

it was router setup.

Ublock incoming IPv6 connections

net.peerCount
9

What protocol gexp is using IP4, IP6?

I still have the problem with Windows. Strange since both pc's are connected to the same router.

They are going to get some .bat files and such going to make it really easy for windows users. In process.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
Could we test mining with GPU or its only cpu for now?

Yes you can, for example i mined more than 600 block in a few min with only 3 gpu, just for the test.

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
5262.75

This is why the first minutes/hours are important. During the first minutes, you can mine thousands or even hundreds of thousands...this is called instamine.

especially if other ppl are not synced , or the nodes are crappy ... and the genesis block should be released with a countdown, and start with a high diff.


A real fair launch




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 12, 2015, 09:40:59 PM
Does the countdown remain still the same:

"https://countingdownto.com/countdown/expanse-main-launch-countdown-clock"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
Could we move the launch date by a day or two?

That will allow us to resolve all issues.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 12, 2015, 09:41:57 PM
Could we test mining with GPU or its only cpu for now?

Yes you can, for example i mined more than 600 block in a few min with only 3 gpu, just for the test.

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
5262.75

This is why the first minutes/hours are important. During the first minutes, you can mine thousands or even hundreds of thousands...this is called instamine.



When network works you wont get anything near that much.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
Could we test mining with GPU or its only cpu for now?

Yes you can, for example i mined more than 600 block in a few min with only 3 gpu, just for the test.

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
5262.75

This is why the first minutes/hours are important. During the first minutes, you can mine thousands or even hundreds of thousands...this is called instamine.



When network works you wont get anything near that much.

When it works ...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 12, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
Does the countdown remain still the same:

"https://countingdownto.com/countdown/expanse-main-launch-countdown-clock"

Yes, the launch should remain the same and this is just testing to make sure it is working for as many people as possible in advance. Sunday is better than weekdays for most people.

They are making some .bat files to make it easier for some people with windows, and there will also very likely be a pool soon after launch and most people won't have to solo mine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 09:50:10 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 12, 2015, 09:54:04 PM
Everyone admin.peers and see if you are connected to others now.. Also remember to portforward all UDP traffic for port 42786 for the machine hosting the node.

Also, everyone on linux

Code:
git pull origin
make gexp

then restart your node and see if you find some more peers ;)

I did just that and I got 4 peers almost right away. Linux 15.04 here.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kondiomir on September 12, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
Could we move the launch date by a day or two?

That will allow us to resolve all issues.

I think this is a good idea. Also the time is about 3 AM in the morning in Europe... :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 12, 2015, 09:59:11 PM
Could we move the launch date by a day or two?

That will allow us to resolve all issues.

I think this is a good idea. Also the time is about 3 AM in the morning in Europe... :(

Yeah I agree , its will be good to set it for an appropriate time for most of the timezones...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 10:08:47 PM
Tried the new download including the batch files, followed the directions. Still no nodes.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: herbitcoins on September 12, 2015, 10:09:09 PM
Could we move the launch date by a day or two?

That will allow us to resolve all issues.

I think this is a good idea. Also the time is about 3 AM in the morning in Europe... :(

Yeah I agree , its will be good to set it for an appropriate time for most of the timezones...

I think they don't care ...
Also I repeat the prob is not fixed ..2cent DIY
I lost 2 days with this coin ...



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Wicked Sick on September 12, 2015, 10:14:40 PM
node still not work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 12, 2015, 10:28:50 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaNGJwdGFSSTNobUE/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Still no peers


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 12, 2015, 10:43:13 PM
Still no peers fair launch for linux only.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 12, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
Works fine for me, and I tested it on windows 10. I am someone that just uses pools to mine normally, well, always. I just wanted to try the .bat files out to see if I had any issues. No problems here. (other than the password entry is invisible, but you just have to type it, hit enter, and type it again and hit enter one more time.)

I would try the obvious things like a system restart, or testing on another machine if you have one available.

Step-1 new account (passwords are invisible, enter password, hit enter, enter password again, hit enter)
Step-2 genesis (just click that)
Step-3 Start Expanse
Step-4 gpu_mining_solo

Then just restart if need be, but that is about it.

http://s8.postimg.org/lji94gx91/11143345_492400597603605_4628218927452456023_n.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 10:53:19 PM
What version of Windows is everyone who can't find peers using?



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 12, 2015, 11:02:57 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaNGJwdGFSSTNobUE/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Thanks, that is what I meant with step-by-step instructions. Windows 7 x64 here.
You might want to change in STEP_2 "geth.exe" to "gexp.exe".

After going through these bat files It started with 4 nodes and it all looks fine. Will test mining now.
P.S. Thanks for changing environment colors. It's so nice when somebody else does it for you. ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 12, 2015, 11:04:25 PM
Works fine for me, and I tested it on windows 10. I am someone that just uses pools to mine normally, well, always. I just wanted to try the .bat files out to see if I had any issues. No problems here. (other than the password entry is invisible, but you just have to type it, hit enter, and type it again and hit enter one more time.)

I would try the obvious things like a system restart, or testing on another machine if you have one available.

Step-1 new account (passwords are invisible, enter password, hit enter, enter password again, hit enter)
Step-2 genesis (just click that)
Step-3 Start Expanse
Step-4 gpu_mining_solo

Then just restart if need be, but that is about it.

http://s8.postimg.org/lji94gx91/11143345_492400597603605_4628218927452456023_n.jpg
Mining works, but there are no nodes, so it is not actually working


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 11:07:19 PM
Works fine for me, and I tested it on windows 10. I am someone that just uses pools to mine normally, well, always. I just wanted to try the .bat files out to see if I had any issues. No problems here. (other than the password entry is invisible, but you just have to type it, hit enter, and type it again and hit enter one more time.)

I would try the obvious things like a system restart, or testing on another machine if you have one available.

Step-1 new account (passwords are invisible, enter password, hit enter, enter password again, hit enter)
Step-2 genesis (just click that)
Step-3 Start Expanse
Step-4 gpu_mining_solo

Then just restart if need be, but that is about it.

http://s8.postimg.org/lji94gx91/11143345_492400597603605_4628218927452456023_n.jpg
Mining works, but there are no nodes, so it is not actually working

It doesnt mine unless its synced.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 12, 2015, 11:07:55 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaNGJwdGFSSTNobUE/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Thanks, that is what I meant with step-by-step instructions. Windows 7 x64 here.
You might want to change in STEP_2 "geth.exe" to "gexp.exe".

After going through these bat files It started with 4 nodes and it all looks fine. Will test mining now.
P.S. Thanks for changing environment colors. It's so nice when somebody else does it for you. ;)
Now it finally works


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 12, 2015, 11:10:20 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaNGJwdGFSSTNobUE/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Thanks, that is what I meant with step-by-step instructions. Windows 7 x64 here.
You might want to change in STEP_2 "geth.exe" to "gexp.exe".

After going through these bat files It started with 4 nodes and it all looks fine. Will test mining now.
P.S. Thanks for changing environment colors. It's so nice when somebody else does it for you. ;)
Now it finally works

Yeah, defaced tried to make it reaaaly "user friendly" (point and click) but I don't start a single bat file without looking what's in there first... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 12, 2015, 11:11:18 PM
Is this launched now or not ?!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 11:11:29 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaNGJwdGFSSTNobUE/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Thanks, that is what I meant with step-by-step instructions. Windows 7 x64 here.
You might want to change in STEP_2 "geth.exe" to "gexp.exe".

After going through these bat files It started with 4 nodes and it all looks fine. Will test mining now.
P.S. Thanks for changing environment colors. It's so nice when somebody else does it for you. ;)
Now it finally works

Yeah, defaced tried to make it reaaaly "user friendly" (point and click) but I don't start a single bat file without looking what's in there first... ;)

smart man, good work too btw. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 11:11:52 PM
Is this launched now or not ?!

negative, still in testing, should be released tomorrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 12, 2015, 11:12:48 PM
Is this launched now or not ?!

We are just testing now, Launch is scheduled for 8pm EDT tomorrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 12, 2015, 11:13:28 PM
Is this launched now or not ?!

We are just testing now, Launch is scheduled for 8pm EDT tomorrow.

Ok, i will add a Pool as soon as everything is working and settled


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 12, 2015, 11:15:09 PM
Is this launched now or not ?!

We are just testing now, Launch is scheduled for 8pm EDT tomorrow.

Ok, i will add a Pool as soon as everything is working and settled

Great thanks, looks like Linux is fine, but getting some issues worked out for Windows. Should be fine by then.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jthor on September 12, 2015, 11:23:39 PM
It's working, on Win7 64 bit, solo cpu mining using laptop :)...would be nice when ocminer set a pool for this.

Quote
> miner.start()
> admin.nodeInfo
{
  DiscPort: 42786,
  IP: "x.x.x.x",
  ListenAddr: "[::]:42786",
  Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
  NodeID: "44de2ec0aab88b3746957b64f925ab1a26fe4254a03051e3b18490d232ef1b3ed9a9e
b5d96a1e27295e47a2da56013d8be4c139aadfae7ac0a0d62119d3dd83b",
  NodeUrl: "enode://44de2ec0aab88b3746957b64f925ab1a26fe4254a03051e3b18490d232ef
1b3ed9a9eb5d96a1e27295e47a2da56013d8be4c139aadfae7ac0a0d62119d3dd83b@x.x.x.x:42786",
  TCPPort: 42786,
  Td: "158750276992"
}
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
21
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
21
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
21
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
29
>


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 12, 2015, 11:24:33 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaNGJwdGFSSTNobUE/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Thanks, that is what I meant with step-by-step instructions. Windows 7 x64 here.
You might want to change in STEP_2 "geth.exe" to "gexp.exe".

After going through these bat files It started with 4 nodes and it all looks fine. Will test mining now.
P.S. Thanks for changing environment colors. It's so nice when somebody else does it for you. ;)
Now it finally works

Yeah, defaced tried to make it reaaaly "user friendly" (point and click) but I don't start a single bat file without looking what's in there first... ;)

smart man, good work too btw. :)

It looks like something is wrong - I am mining to the wallet, but every and I mean EVERY SINGLE block is mine.
I guess I am  mining on my "own" blockchain... Still connected to 4 peers.
http://i.imgur.com/Jc08v77.png


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 12, 2015, 11:33:48 PM
I finally got it to synch with the step2 bat. The other steps do not synch and still have no peers. I also cannot solo mine it, I get no connection. For reference: I solo mine from a rig to a VM on another machine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 12, 2015, 11:39:48 PM
....
It looks like something is wrong - I am mining to the wallet, but every and I mean EVERY SINGLE block is mine.
I guess I am  mining on my "own" blockchain... Still connected to 4 peers.

Or maybe nobody else is mining?!...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 11:41:13 PM
....
It looks like something is wrong - I am mining to the wallet, but every and I mean EVERY SINGLE block is mine.
I guess I am  mining on my "own" blockchain... Still connected to 4 peers.

Or maybe nobody else is mining?!...

That's what i was about to say haha


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lcall7 on September 12, 2015, 11:43:08 PM
obvious that this dev can not code golang nor make this work as it should.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 12, 2015, 11:44:05 PM
obvious that this dev can not code golang nor make this work as it should.

lol thanks for all the free bumps.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 12, 2015, 11:54:18 PM


It looks like something is wrong - I am mining to the wallet, but every and I mean EVERY SINGLE block is mine.
I guess I am  mining on my "own" blockchain... Still connected to 4 peers.
http://i.imgur.com/Jc08v77.png


Whats wrong is a lot cant connect.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 12, 2015, 11:55:13 PM
Could we move the launch date by a day or two?

That will allow us to resolve all issues.


I have no issues with the latest binaries.  Getting 8 peers...


-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MrEggman on September 13, 2015, 12:01:20 AM
connect many node from china  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 12:02:57 AM
Hey defaced, is genesis  file needed for initial sync? I don't recall doing that for any other alts I've dealt with.
It would be nice if that step is not necessary for the official launch. Talking of which... How does a timed launch really work?
At the launch time wallets will be available for download and we set them up and start mining or it will be in some other way?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 12:06:03 AM
Hey defaced, is genesis  file needed for initial sync? I don't recall doing that for any other alts I've dealt with.
It would be nice if that step is not necessary for the official launch. Talking of which... How does a timed launch really work?
At the launch time wallets will be available for download and we set them up and start mining or it will be in some other way?


Since the test wallet is pretty much there, ill release a new genesis block. One would then restart their wallet with the genesis. After people have connected to each other and blocks have been mined ill push a commit to the repo that hardcodes the genesis.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 12:14:13 AM
Hey defaced, is genesis  file needed for initial sync? I don't recall doing that for any other alts I've dealt with.
It would be nice if that step is not necessary for the official launch. Talking of which... How does a timed launch really work?
At the launch time wallets will be available for download and we set them up and start mining or it will be in some other way?


Since the test wallet is pretty much there, ill release a new genesis block. One would then restart their wallet with the genesis. After people have connected to each other and blocks have been mined ill push a commit to the repo that hardcodes the genesis.
I see. When the time comes step by step guide would be appreciated again - like:
1. Exit gexp if ruinning
2. Download gexp-genesis.json from (wherever...)
3. Run gexp.exe --genesis gexp-genesis.json
4. Exit gexp
5. Run gexp.exe --rpc --rpcaddress LOCALIPADRESS console


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 12:20:52 AM
I finally got it to synch with the step2 bat. The other steps do not synch and still have no peers. I also cannot solo mine it, I get no connection. For reference: I solo mine from a rig to a VM on another machine.
Did you make it work - make sure the VM is in the same network as your miner (i.e. their IP addresses are both 192.168.1.xxx).
If not - you have to figure out how to forward the port on your VM host machine to the VM...
Which would be a PITA that I would not go for without being forced to.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 12:23:35 AM
Hey defaced, is genesis  file needed for initial sync? I don't recall doing that for any other alts I've dealt with.
It would be nice if that step is not necessary for the official launch. Talking of which... How does a timed launch really work?
At the launch time wallets will be available for download and we set them up and start mining or it will be in some other way?


Since the test wallet is pretty much there, ill release a new genesis block. One would then restart their wallet with the genesis. After people have connected to each other and blocks have been mined ill push a commit to the repo that hardcodes the genesis.
I see. When the time comes step by step guide would be appreciated again - like:
1. Exit gexp if ruinning
2. Download gexp-genesis.json from (wherever...)
3. Run gexp.exe --genesis gexp-genesis.json
4. Exit gexp
5. Run gexp.exe --rpc --rpcaddress LOCALIPADRESS console

bingo


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 13, 2015, 12:25:36 AM
Cant you wait a couple days to dump?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ImI on September 13, 2015, 12:31:25 AM

which exchanges will offer exp/btc at the launch??


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 13, 2015, 12:37:32 AM

which exchanges will offer exp/btc at the launch??

mtgox m8! Arise chikun arise!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 01:15:37 AM

which exchanges will offer exp/btc at the launch??

To be announced after the launch once it is official.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 13, 2015, 01:34:05 AM
i can't get step 3 to run. it just flashes. the log file shows blockchain db err: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 13, 2015, 01:36:29 AM
been at this for hours, mining ether/shift like a champ. this just wont work


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 01:37:47 AM
i can't get step 3 to run. it just flashes. the log file shows blockchain db err: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.

Open a console first and start step 3.
Make a screenshot and post it here.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 13, 2015, 01:49:31 AM
step 2 is in red.
step 3 is below.

i have tried editing the step 3 bat removing the logging, adding rpc port etc. still same results.

http://s29.postimg.org/82i6av8dj/expanse.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Wicked Sick on September 13, 2015, 02:08:24 AM
stuck block 3536


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 03:10:14 AM
step 2 is in red.
step 3 is below.

i have tried editing the step 3 bat removing the logging, adding rpc port etc. still same results.

http://s29.postimg.org/82i6av8dj/expanse.jpg

Dude, you have to exit from stop step 2 before executing step 3!

1. Exit gexp if ruinning
2. Run gexp.exe --genesis genesis.json
3. Exit gexp
4. Run gexp.exe --rpc --rpcaddress LOCALIPADRESS console

Wtc hout for typos!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 13, 2015, 04:01:45 AM
step 2 is in red.
step 3 is below.

i have tried editing the step 3 bat removing the logging, adding rpc port etc. still same results.

http://s29.postimg.org/82i6av8dj/expanse.jpg

The error message, "The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process." says that the chainstate is being accessed by something else. This is Likely step 2. You need to close step 2 (press ctrl+c multiple times on it) after it is done building the genesis.

We rushed out the bat's to help users get going easier that were having trouble from the command line, so we may have named them a little confusingly, we will make the bats and process clearer and provide more documentation in the morning. To clarify the current bat process:

You only need to run Step 1 and 2 once, before the first time you run expanse. They are to setup and configure Expanse chain and your initial account. After Step 2 completes press ctrl+c to close the application.


Step 3. Runs Expanse, It should be run whenever you want to run expanse.
gpu_mininsolo.bat Starts mining. Expanse should already be running when you launch it.

So to clarify: Run Step 1 and 2 the first time you install expanse to get setup.

Then when you want to mine Run Step 3 if Expanse is not already running then gpu_mining_solo.bat ; If expanse is already running, you can just run gpu_mining_solo.bat. If you don't know if Expanse is running, try opening the Task manager and looking for 'gexp.exe'.

We will simplify and clarify this process further prior to launch.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Jerry S on September 13, 2015, 04:57:32 AM
its not the main launch yet right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 13, 2015, 05:00:57 AM
step 2 is in red.
step 3 is below.

i have tried editing the step 3 bat removing the logging, adding rpc port etc. still same results.

http://s29.postimg.org/82i6av8dj/expanse.jpg

The error message, "The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process." says that the chainstate is being accessed by something else. This is Likely step 2. You need to close step 2 (press ctrl+c multiple times on it) after it is done building the genesis.

We rushed out the bat's to help users get going easier that were having trouble from the command line, so we may have named them a little confusingly, we will make the bats and process clearer and provide more documentation in the morning. To clarify the current bat process:

You only need to run Step 1 and 2 once, before the first time you run expanse. They are to setup and configure Expanse chain and your initial account. After Step 2 completes press ctrl+c to close the application.


Step 3. Runs Expanse, It should be run whenever you want to run expanse.
gpu_mininsolo.bat Starts mining. Expanse should already be running when you launch it.

So to clarify: Run Step 1 and 2 the first time you install expanse to get setup.

Then when you want to mine Run Step 3 if Expanse is not already running then gpu_mining_solo.bat ; If expanse is already running, you can just run gpu_mining_solo.bat. If you don't know if Expanse is running, try opening the Task manager and looking for 'gexp.exe'.

We will simplify and clarify this process further prior to launch.



Do I need to run step 2 with final launch? Nodes will be the same?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ivcelmik on September 13, 2015, 05:43:41 AM
I've found a block but was not accepted http://i.imgur.com/VtRYy2v.jpg it's normal?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ivcelmik on September 13, 2015, 05:56:57 AM
I've got one accepted http://i.imgur.com/JB4wo13.jpg but the mining program stops after that not mining


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 13, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
Are you still want make 1.1M premine available from start? Or have changes in this option?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: benjy33 on September 13, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
hello could someone explain how it is mined in windows would appreciate gpu


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: benjy33 on September 13, 2015, 08:08:23 AM
I've got one accepted http://i.imgur.com/JB4wo13.jpg but the mining program stops after that not mining


hello you could explain me as I appreciate mine


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MakingBubbles on September 13, 2015, 08:41:26 AM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

If a "premine" deters you from using this platform, you could use FRK. FRK is a low inflation 0 premine alternative that has been up and running for nearly 3 years. Since FRK embodies your values i'll expect to see you in active in the frk community from now on.

hell yes may i add crypto is about freedom but franko is about family


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hoze on September 13, 2015, 08:49:31 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Yeees...now connected and working.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 08:57:23 AM
Working for me :)

exp.accounts
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase), "expanse")

Balance is shown in red, i think it's normal cause we are in testnet?
---->>>> Seems i didn't fully synchronize blocks. When do i know it's finished?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MakingBubbles on September 13, 2015, 09:04:50 AM
BIG TIME

https://40.media.tumblr.com/6097b97a8808a73d81b888630a290b68/tumblr_ntyivoz4S61qmvd5co1_1280.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 13, 2015, 09:08:17 AM
So it`s still testnet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: benjy33 on September 13, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Yeees...now connected and working.


hello help me please?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ivcelmik on September 13, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Yeees...now connected and working.


hello help me please?

Download this from https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing
 and then

Step-1 new account (passwords are invisible, enter password, hit enter, enter password again, hit enter)
Step-2 genesis (just click that) but u have to edit the file and replace geth with gexp then u close it with CTRL+C
Step-3 Start Expanse
Step-4 gpu_mining_solo


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 13, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
I received two nodes
but why not sync?
http://i.imgur.com/XIi9Cvd.png


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 13, 2015, 10:29:37 AM
Will the main network remains CPU - only , or we will mine with GPU such as ethereum miner , as well ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 10:34:30 AM
Will the main network remains CPU - only , or we will mine with GPU such as ethereum miner , as well ?

GPU. Never heard of a CPU only network.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hoze on September 13, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Yeees...now connected and working.


hello help me please?

Just download and follow steps...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 13, 2015, 11:29:38 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Yeees...now connected and working.


hello help me please?

Download this from https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing
 and then

Step-1 new account (passwords are invisible, enter password, hit enter, enter password again, hit enter)
Step-2 genesis (just click that) but u have to edit the file and replace geth with gexp then u close it with CTRL+C
Step-3 Start Expanse
Step-4 gpu_mining_solo

Followed this - SO BLOODY EASY!

Thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 13, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
p.s like thecolours compared to simple white text...simple yet different and make looking at screens all day that tiny bit more interesting


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 11:35:20 AM
Status Ubuntu 14.04 x64; Dual Stack (IPv4/IPv6);  Port 41356 UDP open (both IPv6 and IPv4)

After updating from github no change:
- no peer automatically found
- adding manually f944 successful
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
- adding peers given in OP failed
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")

==> it seemed that only peers could be added manually, which contained an IPv4 address
==> peers given by the unspecified IPv6 addresss [::] were not found

So I tested to disable the IPv6 Stack:
bingo:

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc1270 01f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:41356",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "68.197.12.14:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783 bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:60407",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-df8d5237/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.217.136:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:57212",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]

It seems, if IPv6 stack is enabled, the node tries to find peers using IPv6 only.
This will fail, because no peer is listening on an open IPv6 port.

Strange:
After reenabling the IPv6 Stack all is working well.
Seems that the node is caching known peers (like bitcon (peers.dat)

I cannot check this now, but perhaps this will help:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@0.0.0.0:42786")




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 13, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
Okay since we sync the testnet now , by the time of the launch - there will be brand new network to sync on , right ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 12:15:25 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?

right

But at least i know it works ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
Okay since we sync the testnet now , by the time of the launch - there will be brand new network to sync on , right ?

No, another genesis block only (I think)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 13, 2015, 12:17:10 PM
Okay since we sync the testnet now , by the time of the launch - there will be brand new network to sync on , right ?

No, another genesis block only (I think)

It makes sense, yeah , thanks...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Q_R_V on September 13, 2015, 12:18:26 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?
Well, you can send me few coins to test yours and mine wallet >> exp_test: 0xc10a75b703247198bbd7a52fabbc677892161da3

Okay since we sync the testnet now , by the time of the launch - there will be brand new network to sync on , right ?
Yes, we will have to start from a new genesis block.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 12:29:00 PM
90% of the "premine" is owned by the community, and will be stored in a democratic DAO.. again.. ran by the community. They are the communities funds, and the community will vote on how they are spent.

If a "premine" deters you from using this platform, you could use FRK. FRK is a low inflation 0 premine alternative that has been up and running for nearly 3 years. Since FRK embodies your values i'll expect to see you in active in the frk community from now on.

hell yes may i add crypto is about freedom but franko is about family


non nobis solum, sed omnibus my brother.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 12:35:32 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?
Well, you can send me few coins to test yours and mine wallet >> exp_test: 0xc10a75b703247198bbd7a52fabbc677892161da3

Okay since we sync the testnet now , by the time of the launch - there will be brand new network to sync on , right ?
Yes, we will have to start from a new genesis block.

I have sent 100 coins. Hope it worked.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Q_R_V on September 13, 2015, 12:54:12 PM
Yes, it worked! I will send it back when i figure out how to check transactions list  ;D

edit: Just received 2.74 from 0x2a7040cc2b11f472e8db8501085e2d4acfca8f3a
edit2: Just send back to 0x2a7040cc2b11f472e8db8501085e2d4acfca8f3a


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
Thank yall for helping.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: shutaru1985 on September 13, 2015, 01:22:21 PM
how to check balance and txs?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hoze on September 13, 2015, 01:22:42 PM
..hmmm...strange...I hashing with ~25Mhs and no block was found...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamara163 on September 13, 2015, 01:29:54 PM
1. disabled antivirus
2.disabled the windows firewall
3. unplugged the router
4.connected directly to the network
5.launched wallet
6.added two nodes
got two connections
http://i.imgur.com/i57d4GR.png
http://i.imgur.com/RjsjGOr.png
why not sync?
help me


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 13, 2015, 01:40:58 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Q_R_V on September 13, 2015, 01:45:55 PM
how to check balance and txs?

Wallet adress: web3.exp.accounts
Balance: "web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))" or "web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance("your_adress"))"
Pending transactions: "exp.pendingTransactions"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 13, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.

Was waiting to today to try as I have been busy over the weekend.

On Windows 7 64 bit.

Tried this and I have no connection. Says I am block 0.

Step 2 or 3 have no connection to network.

Could the Ethereum be conflicting even though they are on different ports?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: shutaru1985 on September 13, 2015, 01:57:01 PM
how to check balance and txs?

Wallet adress: web3.exp.accounts
Balance: "web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))" or "web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance("your_adress"))"
Pending transactions: "exp.pendingTransactions"


thanks alot!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 13, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
Anyone is overclocking their GPU's?

Any change in hashing power?

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
Anyone is overclocking their GPU's?

Any change in hashing power?

Thanks!

Yes, R9 290 @ 1200 MHz brings a lot more hashrate than stock.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Dave5 on September 13, 2015, 02:02:42 PM
Anyone is overclocking their GPU's?

Any change in hashing power?

Thanks!

Yes, R9 290 @ 1200 MHz brings a lot more hashrate than stock.

Thanks!

1200 MHz for gpu speed or MEM speed?

What are your setup?

I have R9 290x

Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 02:25:02 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?

The only use for the testnet coins is to help get issues worked out ahead of the main launch, to test things, and so people can get their systems ready and tested in advance.

The main launch tonight will be the real deal. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ivcelmik on September 13, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?

The only use for the testnet coins is to help get issues worked out ahead of the main launch, to test things, and so people can get their systems ready and tested in advance.

The main launch tonight will be the real deal. :)

Any cowntdown


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 13, 2015, 02:27:29 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 02:30:30 PM
So, i mined 1000 coins, but they are useless, right?

The only use for the testnet coins is to help get issues worked out ahead of the main launch, to test things, and so people can get their systems ready and tested in advance.

The main launch tonight will be the real deal. :)

Any cowntdown

https://countingdownto.com/countdown/expanse-main-launch-countdown-clock

Here is one for you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 02:32:52 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?  :-\

"nodes should be the same"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Q_R_V on September 13, 2015, 02:38:49 PM
Ok, but what about received/send transactions? How to check them?
In theory you can run something similar to:
Code:
var blockNumber = web3.exp.blockNumber;
for(i=blockNumber; i>0; i--){web3.exp.getBlock(i)}
and check every block for your adress in it.
But only displayed block is the last one in the loop, and there must be a better way to do it. This method is just ridiculous.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 13, 2015, 02:48:02 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?  :-\

"nodes should be the same"

What about step 2 genesis? Do I need to run it at launch? There will be other genesis block right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 02:57:27 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?  :-\

"nodes should be the same"

What about step 2 genesis? Do I need to run it at launch? There will be other genesis block right?

There will be a new genesis to run, and we will provide clear instructions in advance of the launch to make it as simple as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 13, 2015, 03:01:19 PM
Are you still want make 1.1M premine available from start? Or have changes in this option?
Bump... my question


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 13, 2015, 03:01:38 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?  :-\

"nodes should be the same"

What about step 2 genesis? Do I need to run it at launch? There will be other genesis block right?

There will be a new genesis to run, and we will provide clear instructions in advance of the launch to make it as simple as possible.

What about nodes?

Still can't connect.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 03:33:26 PM
Are you still want make 1.1M premine available from start? Or have changes in this option?
Bump... my question

Check the main post it has been updated:

"...with only 100k of that total available at launch to help with development and pay for initial bounties, with the rest of the foundation reserve to be slowly distributed to the team over a year using smart contracts"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 03:39:26 PM
So it`s still testnet?

Yes, tonight at 8pm EDT will the Main Launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 03:41:55 PM
Do I need to run step 2 at final launch? Nodes will be the same?  :-\

"nodes should be the same"

What about step 2 genesis? Do I need to run it at launch? There will be other genesis block right?

There will be a new genesis to run, and we will provide clear instructions in advance of the launch to make it as simple as possible.

What about nodes?

Still can't connect.

Dan Conway is going to make step by step instructions available before launch to try and clarify any confusion. (I think he has to focus on that stuff for a bit now) Worst case if you just can't get it going for some reason, Suprnova will have a pool.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: mv1986 on September 13, 2015, 04:07:31 PM
Is there any way to participate with a rented rig? Just found out about this and didn't read through all the pages.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Rage19420 on September 13, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
Is there any way to participate with a rented rig? Just found out about this and didn't read through all the pages.

Nope


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: mv1986 on September 13, 2015, 04:15:35 PM
Is there any way to participate with a rented rig? Just found out about this and didn't read through all the pages.

Nope

ok, thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 13, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
Is there any way to participate with a rented rig? Just found out about this and didn't read through all the pages.

I can rent you one of my rigs... 60 MH/s per Rig..  currently got 6 running. I just need to find the right price per hour per rig as there is quite no comparison yet...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ivcelmik on September 13, 2015, 04:28:03 PM
Hi Oc when you will set a pool?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 04:29:21 PM
Hi Oc when you will set a pool?
He could goahead and get everything setup, find peers and such, then when the new genesis comes out launch it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ivcelmik on September 13, 2015, 04:39:37 PM
Hi Oc when you will set a pool?
He could goahead and get everything setup, find peers and such, then when the new genesis comes out launch it.

Ok thx


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
Status Ubuntu 14.04 x64; Dual Stack (IPv4/IPv6);  Port 41356 UDP open (both IPv6 and IPv4)

After updating from github no change:
- no peer automatically found
- adding manually f944 successful
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
- adding peers given in OP failed
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")

==> it seemed that only peers could be added manually, which contained an IPv4 address
==> peers given by the unspecified IPv6 addresss [::] were not found

So I tested to disable the IPv6 Stack:
bingo:

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc1270 01f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:41356",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "68.197.12.14:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783 bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:60407",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-df8d5237/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.217.136:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:57212",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]

It seems, if IPv6 stack is enabled, the node tries to find peers using IPv6 only.
This will fail, because no peer is listening on an open IPv6 port.

Strange:
After reenabling the IPv6 Stack all is working well.
Seems that the node is caching known peers (like bitcon (peers.dat)

I cannot check this now, but perhaps this will help:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@0.0.0.0:42786")




@defaced
any comments?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 05:25:34 PM
Status Ubuntu 14.04 x64; Dual Stack (IPv4/IPv6);  Port 41356 UDP open (both IPv6 and IPv4)

After updating from github no change:
- no peer automatically found
- adding manually f944 successful
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
- adding peers given in OP failed
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")

==> it seemed that only peers could be added manually, which contained an IPv4 address
==> peers given by the unspecified IPv6 addresss [::] were not found

So I tested to disable the IPv6 Stack:
bingo:

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc1270 01f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:41356",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "68.197.12.14:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783 bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:60407",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-df8d5237/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.217.136:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.0.101:57212",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]

It seems, if IPv6 stack is enabled, the node tries to find peers using IPv6 only.
This will fail, because no peer is listening on an open IPv6 port.

Strange:
After reenabling the IPv6 Stack all is working well.
Seems that the node is caching known peers (like bitcon (peers.dat)

I cannot check this now, but perhaps this will help:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@0.0.0.0:42786")




@defaced
any comments?

That seems like an accurate description of what is happening


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 06:00:24 PM
That seems like an accurate description of what is happening

And what could be the solution for the average inexperienced user?
I think the client discover peers using IPv6 and IPv4 connections or it should prevent IPv6 connections.
And that should take place before the main launch, to allow a fair distribution!!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 13, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
hi, i'm CryptoBeef !

http://i.imgur.com/ibYzNuG.png

let's go ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 13, 2015, 06:29:49 PM
Me GPU mining on windows to a linux daemon on my local network

http://i.imgur.com/AxQx4et.png (http://imgur.com/AxQx4et)

What miner is it?  And how do you point the miner towards your daemon?
I can only use ethminer on the same box that's running the daemon. I tried using my local ip address and several rpc ports but it can't connect


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 07:02:42 PM
please update the Linux instructions in OP (needed installing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04)

sudo apt-get install git binutils bison gcc make libgmp3-dev curl
touch ~/.bashrc             (if file not exist, the installer creates no entry and gvm will not be found)
bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)
<logout><login>      (to take change in .bashrc in effect)
gvm install go1.4
gvm use go1.4 --default
git clone -b develop http://www.github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse.git 
cd go-expanse
make gexp


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: benjy33 on September 13, 2015, 07:19:52 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing

Everyone on windows having problems give this zip a try.

It comes with 64 bit version of gexp and bat files that make the process smooth as possible.

Report back please.


Yeees...now connected and working.


hello help me please?

Download this from https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing
 and then

Step-1 new account (passwords are invisible, enter password, hit enter, enter password again, hit enter)
Step-2 genesis (just click that) but u have to edit the file and replace geth with gexp then u close it with CTRL+C
Step-3 Start Expanse
Step-4 gpu_mining_solo

ok thank you very much and it seems that this undermining and how I see my balance as is transferred thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 13, 2015, 07:28:31 PM
Pool is ready for pre-reg:

https://exp.suprnova.cc

I'll launch the pool approx 6-8 hours after coin launch, so there is plenty of time for you guys to solo and get the rigs etc. running


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 13, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
please update the Linux instructions in OP (needed installing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04)

sudo apt-get install git binutils bison gcc make libgmp3-dev curl
touch ~/.bashrc             (if file not exist, the installer creates no entry and gvm will not be found)
bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)
<logout><login>      (to take change in .bashrc in effect)
gvm install go1.4
gvm use go1.4 --default
git clone -b develop http://www.github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse.git 
cd go-expanse
make gexp

That works! thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kondiomir on September 13, 2015, 07:30:54 PM
Anyone knows how to check my wallet balance ? :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 13, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
Pool is ready for pre-reg:

https://exp.suprnova.cc

I'll launch the pool approx 6-8 hours after coin launch, so there is plenty of time for you guys to solo and get the rigs etc. running

Awesome! I will switch to the pool after some hours or days of solo mining.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: arloseb on September 13, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
Much more interesting then the other scam eth fork coin out some weeks ago with big premine.

And there is also a legit dev here.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: anderson705 on September 13, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
Anyone knows how to check my wallet balance ? :)
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))   


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 13, 2015, 07:38:04 PM
I finish the guide with step 3 , with that console :

Code:
instance: Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2
 datadir: C:\Users\Joro\AppData\Roaming\Expanse
coinbase: 0x7b19037db71f10bd38c9a5e1608e6f50e7af2a87
at block: 7785 (Sun, 13 Sep 2015 22:35:33 EEST)
modules: admin:1.0 db:1.0 debug:1.0 exp:1.0 miner:1.0 net:1.0 personal:1.0 shh:1
.0 txpool:1.0 web3:1.0
>


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 13, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
Much more interesting then the other scam eth fork coin out some weeks ago with big premine.

And there is also a legit dev here.



Pity this premine is 44x larger than Shifts.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kondiomir on September 13, 2015, 07:56:06 PM
Anyone knows how to check my wallet balance ? :)
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))   


What a command. Thanks a lot btw ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BitcoinForumator on September 13, 2015, 07:56:57 PM
Couple of noob issues for Win 64:

Step 1 new account - OK
Step 2 - OK I guess
Step 3 - I get "Fatal: blockchain db err: The process cannot access the file..."
Step 4 -



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 08:01:23 PM
Couple of noob issues for Win 64:

Step 1 new account - OK
Step 2 - Should text be all in red or does that indicate errors? Probably just text color?
Step 3 - I get "Fatal: blockchain db err: The process cannot access the file..."

What needs to be changed?

Step 2: The different colors of the 3 steps should help to distinguish it, no error
Step 3: Seems another gexp process is running, please close the step2 window (Ctrl+C)



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BitcoinForumator on September 13, 2015, 08:04:03 PM
Couple of noob issues for Win 64:

Step 1 new account - OK
Step 2 - Should text be all in red or does that indicate errors? Probably just text color?
Step 3 - I get "Fatal: blockchain db err: The process cannot access the file..."

What needs to be changed?

Step 2: The different colors of the 3 steps should help to distinguish it, no error
Step 3: Seems another gexp process is running, please close the step2 window (Ctrl+C)



OK yes, it works. Mining fine (testnet?). Should any text be changed in the files once we launch or is everything setup already?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 08:08:22 PM
I finish the guide with step 3 , with that console :

Code:
instance: Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2
 datadir: C:\Users\Joro\AppData\Roaming\Expanse
coinbase: 0x7b19037db71f10bd38c9a5e1608e6f50e7af2a87
at block: 7785 (Sun, 13 Sep 2015 22:35:33 EEST)
modules: admin:1.0 db:1.0 debug:1.0 exp:1.0 miner:1.0 net:1.0 personal:1.0 shh:1
.0 txpool:1.0 web3:1.0
>

All fine. Now you can...
check the peer nodes: admin.peers
show your accounts: exp.accounts
start cpu mining: miner.start()
check your balance: web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.accounts[0]))  
...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 08:45:35 PM
Much more interesting then the other scam eth fork coin out some weeks ago with big premine.

And there is also a legit dev here.



Pity this premine is 44x larger than Shifts.



What % did these devs determine they will premine? I'm fine giving devs some premine. There is no ICO so they will not be paid for this project except for in EXP. You have to look at % of premine, not # of coins premined.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 13, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running? Or, does it not need to be touched?I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 08:49:26 PM
This crazy premine is a fact. No matter how interesting devs gonna explain it. That's their choice. It will take years to let community be a part of this premine beneficiary group so forget about any excuses.
 



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 08:50:19 PM
Much more interesting then the other scam eth fork coin out some weeks ago with big premine.

And there is also a legit dev here.



Pity this premine is 44x larger than Shifts.



What % did these devs determine they will premine? I'm fine giving devs some premine. There is no ICO so they will not be paid for this project except for in EXP. You have to look at % of premine, not # of coins premined.




We get 1% at the start for all of our initial work and cost, the rest goes into DAO's that pay out over time.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 08:52:19 PM

Do not create a war between SHF and EXP

It will just make both look bad.


Promote these first two coins as the best Ethereum clones.


The most likely scenario is both go up, or both go down. It's highly unlikely that 1 will do substantially better based on people putting down the other coins. Do not make this a competition. Anyone who has cloned ethereum already clearly has skills.


I would like to see the scenario where everyone is positive and both ethereum clones becomes really big.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 13, 2015, 08:52:52 PM
This crazy premine is a fact. No matter how interesting devs gonna explain it. That's their choice. It will take years to let community be a part of this premine beneficiary group so forget about any excuses.
 



you have 3 options m8.

make your own , use something else or have a little trust


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 08:53:37 PM

Do not create a war between SHF and EXP

It will just make both look bad.


Promote these first two coins as the best Ethereum clones.


The most likely scenario is both go up, or both go down. It's highly unlikely that 1 will do substantially better based on people putting down the other coins. Do not make this a competition. Anyone who has cloned ethereum already clearly has skills.


I would like to see the scenario where everyone is positive and both ethereum clones becomes really big.






If you MUST troll on a coin, go troll on Ethereum. They are the ones who ran a shady ICO, took salaries and then also premined ETH.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ImI on September 13, 2015, 08:55:31 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 08:56:34 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?



If you only own a CPU then it of course makes sense.

OCminer released the MPOS open source Ethereum mining pool code. Where are all the pools? Remember back in the day when there was like 10 pools before launch set up... and then remember when half of them were scams and stole your coins. LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DeCrypterManiac on September 13, 2015, 08:59:04 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?



If you only own a CPU then it of course makes sense.

OCminer released the MPOS open source Ethereum mining pool code. Where are all the pools? Remember back in the day when there was like 10 pools before launch set up... and then remember when half of them were scams and stole your coins. LOL

He posted it on the last page:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:00:57 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?



If you only own a CPU then it of course makes sense.

OCminer released the MPOS open source Ethereum mining pool code. Where are all the pools? Remember back in the day when there was like 10 pools before launch set up... and then remember when half of them were scams and stole your coins. LOL

He posted it on the last page:

https://exp.suprnova.cc



AMAZING! Is there a windows 10 64-bit miner available for dagger-hashimoto algorithm yet?



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 09:03:08 PM
Much more interesting then the other scam eth fork coin out some weeks ago with big premine.

And there is also a legit dev here.



Pity this premine is 44x larger than Shifts.



What % did these devs determine they will premine? I'm fine giving devs some premine. There is no ICO so they will not be paid for this project except for in EXP. You have to look at % of premine, not # of coins premined.




100k reserve for the team and for initial bounties at launch, then 1 million slowly over one years time for the team with smart contracts. This means only 100k at launch available for the team.

10 million for the community DAO released slowly over time. This is not for the team, but for whatever the community votes on using the DAO, future development, bounties for DAPPs and so on.

This will only have value if we develop and bring value to it, so this actually means this there is likely some stability here over the long run, and potentially increasing value with more development over time. We can't release everything at once, but there is more to come and we feel this project will have value over time and last.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:04:42 PM
Much more interesting then the other scam eth fork coin out some weeks ago with big premine.

And there is also a legit dev here.



Pity this premine is 44x larger than Shifts.



What % did these devs determine they will premine? I'm fine giving devs some premine. There is no ICO so they will not be paid for this project except for in EXP. You have to look at % of premine, not # of coins premined.




100k reserve for the team and for initial bounties at launch, then 1 million slowly over one years time for the team with smart contracts. This means only 100k at launch available for the team.

10 million for the community DAO released slowly over time. This is not for the team, but for whatever the community votes on using the DAO, future development, bounties for DAPPs and so on.

This will only have value if we develop and bring value to it, so this actually means this there is likely some stability here over the long run, and potentially increasing value with more development over time. We can't release everything at once, but there is more to come and we feel this project will have value over time and last.




This sounds amazing. I will be making DApps. I hope to be able to claim some of those EXP.

This may also lead me to hiring full time software developers! This would be just so cool. Hiring developers. Managing them. Making money by releasing open source DApps.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:05:03 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?



If you only own a CPU then it of course makes sense.

OCminer released the MPOS open source Ethereum mining pool code. Where are all the pools? Remember back in the day when there was like 10 pools before launch set up... and then remember when half of them were scams and stole your coins. LOL

He posted it on the last page:

https://exp.suprnova.cc



AMAZING! Is there a windows 10 64-bit miner available for dagger-hashimoto algorithm yet?




Check out here for more info:
https://exp.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=gettingstarted




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 09:05:14 PM

100k reserve for the team and for initial bounties at launch, then 1 million slowly over one years time for the team with smart contracts. This means only 100k at launch available for the team.

10 million for the community DAO released slowly over time.

Proof please.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 09:05:22 PM

Do not create a war between SHF and EXP

It will just make both look bad.


Promote these first two coins as the best Ethereum clones.


The most likely scenario is both go up, or both go down. It's highly unlikely that 1 will do substantially better based on people putting down the other coins. Do not make this a competition. Anyone who has cloned ethereum already clearly has skills.


I would like to see the scenario where everyone is positive and both ethereum clones becomes really big.




One thing ive learned after 5 years in cryptoland is the amount of ego floating around here is staggering. Alot of people in this community see competition as opposition, as its us vs them. Competition is a good thing, its healthy, its what makes people release good products and good product support. However, opposition is the catalyst for FUD slinging sock puppets. Its the precursor to bent egos. The fact is, we can all co-exist and help each other be better. Thats going to happen regardless so why waste the time to create a new fud slinger when they could be using that time to work on the betterment of their own projects...? I think thats a mystery that will never be solved.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldenEye on September 13, 2015, 09:08:47 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running?
yes

I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?
The console output is redirected to exp.log (see bat-file). Besides you can check the hashrate (miner.hashrate). For all this you don't need the ethminer.
If you want to mine with ethminer, stop cpu mining (miner.stop()).
Call (for GPU-Mining):
ethminer -G -F http://127.0.0.1:9656


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 09:09:46 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running?
yes

I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?
The console output is redirected to exp.log (see bat-file). Besides you can check the hashrate (miner.hashrate). For all this you don't need the ethminer.
If you want to mine with ethminer, stop cpu mining (miner.stop()).
Call (for GPU-Mining):
ethminer -G -F http://127.0.0.1:9656


thank you for being helpful


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ImI on September 13, 2015, 09:10:21 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?



If you only own a CPU then it of course makes sense.

sold my gpu-rigs a long time ago. only thing left gaming-pc with Nvidia GTX 970...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 13, 2015, 09:13:38 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running?
yes

I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?
The console output is redirected to exp.log (see bat-file). Besides you can check the hashrate (miner.hashrate). For all this you don't need the ethminer.
If you want to mine with ethminer, stop cpu mining (miner.stop()).
Call (for GPU-Mining):
ethminer -G -F http://127.0.0.1:9656


Got it, thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 13, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
So this is the correct bat file?
@echo off
color 0A
"ethminer.exe" -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/proctologic.1/25


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 13, 2015, 09:16:02 PM
So this is the correct bat file?
@echo off
color 0A
"ethminer.exe" -G -F http://exp.suprnova.cc:3000/proctologic.1/25

Yes, but remove the "


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 09:19:43 PM

One thing ive learned after 5 years in cryptoland is the amount of ego floating around here is staggering. Alot of people in this community see competition as opposition, as its us vs them. Competition is a good thing, its healthy, its what makes people release good products and good product support. However, opposition is the catalyst for FUD slinging sock puppets. Its the precursor to bent egos. The fact is, we can all co-exist and help each other be better. Thats going to happen regardless so why waste the time to create a new fud slinger when they could be using that time to work on the betterment of their own projects...? I think thats a mystery that will never be solved.


If it's the way you wanna explain this crazy premine - you do it wrong.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 09:20:23 PM

100k reserve for the team and for initial bounties at launch, then 1 million slowly over one years time for the team with smart contracts. This means only 100k at launch available for the team.

10 million for the community DAO released slowly over time.

Proof please.




Proof will be provided and should be out before the first exchange is announced and it is tradable. They are very busy right now, but I can assure you this will be proven with smart contracts and there is nothing to worry about. We are not anonymous devs and this is a long term project.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 09:20:30 PM

A suggestion to the devs: Make a windows step-by-step guide and put it on the first page.
You can do it now and only change the official release genesis block later (if that is what you intend to do).
You will eliminate a ton of people's time and nerves to go through all the pages. Unless you are after more "bumps"...

Suggested guide format (similar to what you did with linux instructions:

1. Start gexp and create your own account with typing this:
gexp should get you a new address and prompt (C:\) is being shown again after you run it
Code:
gexp.exe account new


2. Download genesis file (link) and make sure you put it in same folder gexp is.
Import the genesis block and exit after that (ctrl+c)
Code:
gexp.exe --genesis exp-genesis.json
DON'T FORGET TO EXIT GEXP!


3.... bla-bla more explanation
Code:
code to run
...
etc


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 09:22:13 PM
Proof will be provided and should be out before the first exchange is announced and it is tradable. They are very busy right now, but I can assure you this will be proven with smart contracts and there is nothing to worry about. We are not anonymous devs and this is a long term project.

Is it a joke? Launch tommorow.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 09:23:08 PM

A suggestion to the devs: Make a windows step-by-step guide and put it on the first page.
You can do it now and only change the official release genesis block later (if that is what you intend to do).
You will eliminate a ton of people's time and nerves to go through all the pages. Unless you are after more "bumps"...

Suggested guide format (similar to what you did with linux instructions:

1. Start gexp and create your own account with typing this:
gexp should get you a new address and prompt (C:\) is being shown again after you run it
Code:
gexp.exe account new


2. Download genesis file (link) and make sure you put it in same folder gexp is.
Import the genesis block and exit after that (ctrl+c)
Code:
gexp.exe --genesis exp-genesis.json
DON'T FORGET TO EXIT GEXP!


3.... bla-bla more explanation
Code:
code to run
...
etc


I forwarded that message to them as they are working on that stuff now, thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 13, 2015, 09:23:25 PM
Proof will be provided and should be out before the first exchange is announced and it is tradable. They are very busy right now, but I can assure you this will be proven with smart contracts and there is nothing to worry about. We are not anonymous devs and this is a long term project.

Is it a joke? Launch tommorow.


Actually, launch is in 2.5 hours.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 09:27:53 PM

A suggestion to the devs: Make a windows step-by-step guide and put it on the first page.
You can do it now and only change the official release genesis block later (if that is what you intend to do).
You will eliminate a ton of people's time and nerves to go through all the pages. Unless you are after more "bumps"...

Suggested guide format (similar to what you did with linux instructions:

1. Start gexp and create your own account with typing this:
gexp should get you a new address and prompt (C:\) is being shown again after you run it
Code:
gexp.exe account new


2. Download genesis file (link) and make sure you put it in same folder gexp is.
Import the genesis block and exit after that (ctrl+c)
Code:
gexp.exe --genesis exp-genesis.json
DON'T FORGET TO EXIT GEXP!


3.... bla-bla more explanation
Code:
code to run
...
etc


I forwarded that message to them as they are working on that stuff now, thank you.

Also include mining instructions as if mining and running the wallet will be on different hosts (solo).
What I mean is omit the fact that ethminer mines by default to localhost.
Pool mining will just say "wallet setup not necessary" or somethig


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 13, 2015, 09:29:46 PM
So if i mine this it will auto switch genesis when launch?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/veiy24a699qc6f1/EXP.PNG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/veiy24a699qc6f1/EXP.PNG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/veiy24a699qc6f1/EXP.PNG)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:30:57 PM

One thing ive learned after 5 years in cryptoland is the amount of ego floating around here is staggering. Alot of people in this community see competition as opposition, as its us vs them. Competition is a good thing, its healthy, its what makes people release good products and good product support. However, opposition is the catalyst for FUD slinging sock puppets. Its the precursor to bent egos. The fact is, we can all co-exist and help each other be better. Thats going to happen regardless so why waste the time to create a new fud slinger when they could be using that time to work on the betterment of their own projects...? I think thats a mystery that will never be solved.


If it's the way you wanna explain this crazy premine - you do it wrong.






They explained it already. Summarized version is:

Devs need money. Miners don't get 100% of this coins.



I like the idea because I'm a developer. Devs need money, miners need money. Why not go 50/50 split?




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 09:31:13 PM
So if i mine this it will auto switch genesis when launch?

How the heck did you come up with this?! ;)
They said earlier another genesis block will need to be imported.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:31:42 PM



Where is everyone downloaded "ethminer.exe" from?




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 13, 2015, 09:33:06 PM



Where is everyone downloaded "ethminer.exe" from?




it's the windows version comes with the package.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 13, 2015, 09:33:19 PM
Devs need incentive to dev, period.  NOBODY works for free.  They just need to be held accountable for it.

Give it up already.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 13, 2015, 09:33:28 PM



Where is everyone downloaded "ethminer.exe" from?






First post


Binaries
https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/tree/develop/BUILDS-GEXP

Win64 with bats - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6-zgS8gYXFaRmtfeEpLZTFqZzA/view?usp=sharing


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 13, 2015, 09:33:57 PM
So if i mine this it will auto switch genesis when launch?

How the heck did you come up with this?! ;)
They said earlier another genesis block will need to be imported.

how is this done?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 09:34:25 PM

I like the idea because I'm a developer. Devs need money, miners need money. Why not go 50/50 split?


It's fine that devs need money. However, at this moment premine is >90%.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:43:53 PM

I like the idea because I'm a developer. Devs need money, miners need money. Why not go 50/50 split?


It's fine that devs need money. However, at this moment premine is >90%.





I actually have no idea how much the premine is. I doubt it's 90%.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 09:52:07 PM

I like the idea because I'm a developer. Devs need money, miners need money. Why not go 50/50 split?


It's fine that devs need money. However, at this moment premine is >90%.





I actually have no idea how much the premine is. I doubt it's 90%.






Block Reward: 8
Gas Limit: 31415926
Block Target: 60 seconds
Listen Port: 60606
RPC Port: 9659
Reserve: 11 Million (Community Managed)


Premine: 11M

after 1st day: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 = 11M + 11520, premine is 99.9%
after 1st week: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 7 = 11M + 80640, premine is 99.3%
after 1st month: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 30.5 = 11M + 351360, premine is 96.8%
after 1st quarter: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 30.5 * 3 = 11M + 1054080, premine is 90.4%
after 1st year: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 365 = 11M + 4204800, premine is 61.8%

Call it however you want.





Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 09:59:32 PM

I like the idea because I'm a developer. Devs need money, miners need money. Why not go 50/50 split?


It's fine that devs need money. However, at this moment premine is >90%.





I actually have no idea how much the premine is. I doubt it's 90%.






Block Reward: 8
Gas Limit: 31415926
Block Target: 60 seconds
Listen Port: 60606
RPC Port: 9659
Reserve: 11 Million (Community Managed)


Premine: 11M

after 1st day: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 = 11M + 11520, premine is 99.9%
after 1st week: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 7 = 11M + 80640, premine is 99.3%
after 1st month: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 30.5 = 11M + 351360, premine is 96.8%
after 1st quarter: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 30.5 * 3 = 11M + 1054080, premine is 90.4%
after 1st year: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 365 = 11M + 4204800, premine is 61.8%

Call it however you want.







That seems a bit excessive. Especially if Ethereum clones go PoS with minimal new coin generation in less than a year from today. Using this distribution method, this coin may end up being DApp heavy. DAPp are probably the most important thing. More important than miners, especially once it goes PoS.


I have no idea which distribution method is the best so I'm going to support this coin. I will mine it, buy it and hopefully develop a DApp for it.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
We talk about different things.
Premine is one thing.
PoS is second thing.
Dapps are yet another thing.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 10:03:55 PM
So if i mine this it will auto switch genesis when launch?

How the heck did you come up with this?! ;)
They said earlier another genesis block will need to be imported.

how is this done?

Don't take what I say for granted, but after release they will provide new genesis.
You import it with:
Code:
gexp.exe --genesis genesis.json
(genesis.json being the genesis file)

Personally I will completely delete %userprofile%\Appdata\Roaming\Expanse folder
(it is usually c:\users\YOURUSERPROFILE\Appdata\Roaming\Expanse)
regardless if they put it in the instructions or not - that will require creating a new EXP address.
Actually I think a new required anyway (I highly doubt if you can use a testnet address in the main network)



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 10:07:29 PM

I like the idea because I'm a developer. Devs need money, miners need money. Why not go 50/50 split?


It's fine that devs need money. However, at this moment premine is >90%.





I actually have no idea how much the premine is. I doubt it's 90%.






Block Reward: 8
Gas Limit: 31415926
Block Target: 60 seconds
Listen Port: 60606
RPC Port: 9659
Reserve: 11 Million (Community Managed)


Premine: 11M

after 1st day: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 = 11M + 11520, premine is 99.9%
after 1st week: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 7 = 11M + 80640, premine is 99.3%
after 1st month: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 30.5 = 11M + 351360, premine is 96.8%
after 1st quarter: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 30.5 * 3 = 11M + 1054080, premine is 90.4%
after 1st year: 11M  + 8 * 60 * 24 * 365 = 11M + 4204800, premine is 61.8%

Call it however you want.


Nice maths! Except you conviently left out the entire DAO that house those figures.

11m is the initial reserve
----------------------
10m goes into a ternary community DAO contract (where no central authority can spend them)
1m goes into a multisig founder/developer DAO that is slowly released over time
100k is awarded to developers up front for their initial contributions.

100k of 10m == 0.9090909090909091%

I look forward to your next post.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MakingBubbles on September 13, 2015, 10:08:16 PM

Do not create a war between SHF and EXP

It will just make both look bad.


Promote these first two coins as the best Ethereum clones.


The most likely scenario is both go up, or both go down. It's highly unlikely that 1 will do substantially better based on people putting down the other coins. Do not make this a competition. Anyone who has cloned ethereum already clearly has skills.


I would like to see the scenario where everyone is positive and both ethereum clones becomes really big.



+100K


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 13, 2015, 10:12:43 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running?
yes

I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?
The console output is redirected to exp.log (see bat-file). Besides you can check the hashrate (miner.hashrate). For all this you don't need the ethminer.
If you want to mine with ethminer, stop cpu mining (miner.stop()).
Call (for GPU-Mining):
ethminer -G -F http://127.0.0.1:9656


thank you for being helpful

I think the rpcport is 9659


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 10:13:10 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running?
yes

I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?
The console output is redirected to exp.log (see bat-file). Besides you can check the hashrate (miner.hashrate). For all this you don't need the ethminer.
If you want to mine with ethminer, stop cpu mining (miner.stop()).
Call (for GPU-Mining):
ethminer -G -F http://127.0.0.1:9656


thank you for being helpful

I think the rpcport is 9659

its 9656 :P


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 10:15:14 PM



are we less than 2 hours away from mining launch?




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 10:17:26 PM



are we less than 2 hours away from mining launch?




yes


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 10:17:39 PM

11m is the initial reserve
----------------------
10m goes into a ternary community DAO contract (where no central authority can spend them)


Again, PROOF please how you gonna guarantee it. Don't tell me devs are well known, because I don't say they are scammers.



Also you shares in community will base on funds held
Basically devs will hold most of supply for many months
So no matter how you call it, devs will control 90% supply for many months




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 13, 2015, 10:19:02 PM
Do we start ethminer.exe while step 3 is running?
yes

I don't see it mining, I type miner.start() and it said "true"?
The console output is redirected to exp.log (see bat-file). Besides you can check the hashrate (miner.hashrate). For all this you don't need the ethminer.
If you want to mine with ethminer, stop cpu mining (miner.stop()).
Call (for GPU-Mining):
ethminer -G -F http://127.0.0.1:9656


thank you for being helpful

I think the rpcport is 9659

its 9656 :P

Yes, it is!, but then the OP is wrong, it says 9659 :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 10:21:04 PM

11m is the initial reserve
----------------------
10m goes into a ternary community DAO contract (where no central authority can spend them)


Again, PROOF please how you gonna guarantee it. Don't tell me devs are well known, because I don't say they are scammers.



Also you shares in community will base on funds held
Basically devs will hold most of supply for many months
So no matter how you call it, devs will control 90% supply for many months


How exactly do you want proof again?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 10:24:20 PM
An example of a DAO contract

Code:
contract token { mapping (address => uint) public coinBalanceOf;   function token() { }   function sendCoin(address receiver, uint amount) returns(bool sufficient) {  } }


contract Democracy {

    uint public minimumQuorum;
    uint public debatingPeriod;
    token public voterShare;
    address public founder;
    Proposal[] public proposals;
    uint public numProposals;

    event ProposalAdded(uint proposalID, address recipient, uint amount, bytes32 data, string description);
    event Voted(uint proposalID, int position, address voter);
    event ProposalTallied(uint proposalID, int result, uint quorum, bool active);

    struct Proposal {
        address recipient;
        uint amount;
        bytes32 data;
        string description;
        uint creationDate;
        bool active;
        Vote[] votes;
        mapping (address => bool) voted;
    }

    struct Vote {
        int position;
        address voter;
    }

    function Democracy(token _voterShareAddress, uint _minimumQuorum, uint _debatingPeriod) {
        founder = msg.sender; 
        voterShare = token(_voterShareAddress);
        minimumQuorum = _minimumQuorum || 10;
        debatingPeriod = _debatingPeriod * 1 minutes || 30 days;
    }


    function newProposal(address _recipient, uint _amount, bytes32 _data, string _description) returns (uint proposalID) {
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0) {
            proposalID = proposals.length++;
            Proposal p = proposals[proposalID];
            p.recipient = _recipient;
            p.amount = _amount;
            p.data = _data;
            p.description = _description;
            p.creationDate = now;
            p.active = true;
            ProposalAdded(proposalID, _recipient, _amount, _data, _description);
            numProposals = proposalID+1;
        }
    }

    function vote(uint _proposalID, int _position) returns (uint voteID){
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0 && (_position >= -1 || _position <= 1 )) {
            Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
            if (p.voted[msg.sender] == true) return;
            voteID = p.votes.length++;
            p.votes[voteID] = Vote({position: _position, voter: msg.sender});
            p.voted[msg.sender] = true;
            Voted(_proposalID,  _position, msg.sender);
        }
    }

    function executeProposal(uint _proposalID) returns (int result) {
        Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
        /* Check if debating period is over */
        if (now > (p.creationDate + debatingPeriod) && p.active){   
            uint quorum = 0;
            /* tally the votes */
            for (uint i = 0; i <  p.votes.length; ++i) {
                Vote v = p.votes[i];
                uint voteWeight = voterShare.coinBalanceOf(v.voter);
                quorum += voteWeight;
                result += int(voteWeight) * v.position;
            }
            /* execute result */
            if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result > 0 ) {
                p.recipient.call.value(p.amount)(p.data);
                p.active = false;
            } else if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result < 0) {
                p.active = false;
            }
            ProposalTallied(_proposalID, result, quorum, p.active);
        }
    }
}


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 13, 2015, 10:31:08 PM
An example of a DAO contract

Code:
contract token { mapping (address => uint) public coinBalanceOf;   function token() { }   function sendCoin(address receiver, uint amount) returns(bool sufficient) {  } }


contract Democracy {

    uint public minimumQuorum;
    uint public debatingPeriod;
    token public voterShare;
    address public founder;
    Proposal[] public proposals;
    uint public numProposals;

    event ProposalAdded(uint proposalID, address recipient, uint amount, bytes32 data, string description);
    event Voted(uint proposalID, int position, address voter);
    event ProposalTallied(uint proposalID, int result, uint quorum, bool active);

    struct Proposal {
        address recipient;
        uint amount;
        bytes32 data;
        string description;
        uint creationDate;
        bool active;
        Vote[] votes;
        mapping (address => bool) voted;
    }

    struct Vote {
        int position;
        address voter;
    }

    function Democracy(token _voterShareAddress, uint _minimumQuorum, uint _debatingPeriod) {
        founder = msg.sender; 
        voterShare = token(_voterShareAddress);
        minimumQuorum = _minimumQuorum || 10;
        debatingPeriod = _debatingPeriod * 1 minutes || 30 days;
    }


    function newProposal(address _recipient, uint _amount, bytes32 _data, string _description) returns (uint proposalID) {
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0) {
            proposalID = proposals.length++;
            Proposal p = proposals[proposalID];
            p.recipient = _recipient;
            p.amount = _amount;
            p.data = _data;
            p.description = _description;
            p.creationDate = now;
            p.active = true;
            ProposalAdded(proposalID, _recipient, _amount, _data, _description);
            numProposals = proposalID+1;
        }
    }

    function vote(uint _proposalID, int _position) returns (uint voteID){
        if (voterShare.coinBalanceOf(msg.sender)>0 && (_position >= -1 || _position <= 1 )) {
            Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
            if (p.voted[msg.sender] == true) return;
            voteID = p.votes.length++;
            p.votes[voteID] = Vote({position: _position, voter: msg.sender});
            p.voted[msg.sender] = true;
            Voted(_proposalID,  _position, msg.sender);
        }
    }

    function executeProposal(uint _proposalID) returns (int result) {
        Proposal p = proposals[_proposalID];
        /* Check if debating period is over */
        if (now > (p.creationDate + debatingPeriod) && p.active){   
            uint quorum = 0;
            /* tally the votes */
            for (uint i = 0; i <  p.votes.length; ++i) {
                Vote v = p.votes[i];
                uint voteWeight = voterShare.coinBalanceOf(v.voter);
                quorum += voteWeight;
                result += int(voteWeight) * v.position;
            }
            /* execute result */
            if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result > 0 ) {
                p.recipient.call.value(p.amount)(p.data);
                p.active = false;
            } else if (quorum > minimumQuorum && result < 0) {
                p.active = false;
            }
            ProposalTallied(_proposalID, result, quorum, p.active);
        }
    }
}



Great job with creating this Democracy contract.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 13, 2015, 10:34:13 PM
My body is ready !!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 10:42:14 PM
...

First of all, seems like you don't understand that I am programmer.
Second, this contract proofs nothing.
Third, devs will control most of supply for many months therefore whole premine will be under their control.

Basically TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS MOMENT TO ACHIEVE GUARANTED COMMUNITY RESERVE YOU CLAIM TO CREATE.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 13, 2015, 10:45:37 PM

does CPU mining make sense with EXP?



If you only own a CPU then it of course makes sense.

OCminer released the MPOS open source Ethereum mining pool code. Where are all the pools? Remember back in the day when there was like 10 pools before launch set up... and then remember when half of them were scams and stole your coins. LOL

He posted it on the last page:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


AMAZING! Is there a windows 10 64-bit miner available for dagger-hashimoto algorithm yet?


64bit ethminer runs on windows 10. The one provided here for exp ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 10:49:25 PM
...

First of all, seems like you don't understand that I am programmer.
Second, this contract proofs nothing.
Third, devs will control most of supply for many months therefore whole premine will be under their control.

Basically TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS MOMENT TO ACHIEVE GUARANTED COMMUNITY RESERVE YOU CLAIM TO CREATE.


First of all, seems like you don't understand that I am a programmer.
Second, if this contract doesnt prove anything to you then you are just begging the question and no proof will satisfy you.
Third, the contract that holds the dev funds cant vote. O_O, so you are only partially correct.. For 11 days lol we will have the majority vote with our initial release of funds.

If you feel like I *cant* have enough proof for you then now is a good time for you to move on to something else. Since you are a programmer, start your own fork that embodies your desires.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 13, 2015, 10:55:04 PM
...

First of all, seems like you don't understand that I am programmer.
Second, this contract proofs nothing.
Third, devs will control most of supply for many months therefore whole premine will be under their control.

Basically TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THIS MOMENT TO ACHIEVE GUARANTED COMMUNITY RESERVE YOU CLAIM TO CREATE.




It is technically possible to create contracts that release funds over time. I am not sure why you think that would be abused when everything will be public, and we are not anonymous and would be held accountable, but only a small amount will be available at a time and it won't be abused as that makes no sense, and would ruin the value of the developers funds that will be released over time as well. Your fears or FUD is misplaced, but if you have doubts just wait and see how it goes over time, and you can always mine or trade it later once you have enough proof to satisfy you. Obviously some people will never be happy, but why would we ruin a project that is funding us over a year? (or longer if the community votes for it later, or there is POS on our coins... and so on) We wouldn't do that, that makes no sense.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 13, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
If you dont like it - dont mine it...  It's as simple as that


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 13, 2015, 10:59:54 PM
If you dont like it - dont mine it...  It's as simple as that

that is pretty much what it boils down to m8


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 11:01:40 PM
If you feel like I *cant* have enough proof for you then now is a good time for you to move on to something else. Since you are a programmer, start your own fork that embodies your desires.

Basically there's no proof at all. Also I have no need to embody anything here, I just believe that 90+ % premine has negative impact, also claiming that 90% of it goes community is false. Nothing else, I am here because I find this project very interesting.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 11:05:18 PM
It is technically possible to create contracts that release funds over time. I am not sure why you think that would be abused when everything will be public, and we are not anonymous and would be held accountable, but only a small amount will be available at a time and it won't be abused as that makes no sense, and would ruin the value of the developers funds that will be released over time as well. Your fears or FUD is misplaced, but if you have doubts just wait and see how it goes over time, and you can always mine or trade it later once you have enough proof to satisfy you. Obviously some people will never be happy, but why would we ruin a project that is funding us over a year? (or longer if the community votes for it later, or there is POS on our coins... and so on) We wouldn't do that, that makes no sense.


Who talk about an abuse or you being anon / scammers? It's just a matter or making math proofs not human proofs. Ethereum is a fresh wave in crypto world and you remind old premine crap from the past.



If you dont like it - dont mine it...  It's as simple as that
I don't think you should comment it this way. So many scams behind, right?




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 13, 2015, 11:13:24 PM
I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 13, 2015, 11:14:13 PM
I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?
No, they will be fine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 11:14:37 PM
I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

accounts and everything hold, even your enode address, the only thing that changes is the chain. If you want to be super cautious you can run this cmd on linux.

Code:
rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 13, 2015, 11:15:44 PM
I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

accounts and everything hold, even your enode address, the only thing that changes is the chain. If you want to be super cautious you can run this cmd on linux.

Code:
rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}

And what happens to the "test" coins that are already in those accounts?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 13, 2015, 11:16:04 PM
so howto start this?
Is there a new genesis block to download but same software as test-mining?
Where will the new genesis-block published too?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 13, 2015, 11:25:00 PM
I guess we are gonna have to create a new account after the new genesis has released, right? the accounts from the testnet wont hold, right?

accounts and everything hold, even your enode address, the only thing that changes is the chain. If you want to be super cautious you can run this cmd on linux.

Code:
rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}

And what happens to the "test" coins that are already in those accounts?

They are not in the account per se...
They are in the network and are "unlockable" (being able to be sent) with your account's private key.
The new network will have different instance of your account's address and will be "unlockable" with the same account's private key.
Ergo - the account is the same (address and key), but the coins are different because it's a different network.
Analogy (loose):
The account's address is like a template - a plate with holes that lets you see certain amount of information.
If you put the template over a book page you will see some characters through the holes. If you point it at different page
characters will be different, but the template hasn't changed.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 11:25:12 PM
so howto start this?
Is there a new genesis block to download but same software as test-mining?
Where will the new genesis-block published too?


yes thats exactly, im writing easy to understand instructions


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 13, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
so howto start this?
Is there a new genesis block to download but same software as test-mining?
Where will the new genesis-block published too?




get setup as first post u wait to new genesis block


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 13, 2015, 11:30:20 PM
Pool is ready for pre-reg:

https://exp.suprnova.cc

I'll launch the pool approx 6-8 hours after coin launch, so there is plenty of time for you guys to solo and get the rigs etc. running

Ocminer

Can you launch pool at beginning?

There are still issues where some of us still can't connect and will not be able to solo mine.

No guarantee that issue will be fixed at launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 13, 2015, 11:36:06 PM
So, we have to create a new account after the launch? We can't use the one create via testnet? Will the new genesis block available slightly before launch or we have to wait until after the launch? Is the rpc port 9656 for the live network? Will you make etherwall GUI version compatible with EXP?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 11:39:27 PM
So, we have to create a new account after the launch? We can't use the one create via testnet? Will the new genesis block available slightly before launch or we have to wait until after the launch? Is the rpc port 9656 for the live network? Will you make etherwall GUI version compatible with EXP?

With the bat files you only have to run the genesis step. You dont have to create new accounts or anything.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 13, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 13, 2015, 11:41:49 PM
What about Linux? Will we only have to run build/bin/gexp with another genesis file?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 13, 2015, 11:42:53 PM
will the .bat file be released here in the thread, or on the main (1) page?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 11:43:27 PM
How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?

Again, you will turn those nodes off,  then start them with the new genesis.

which means you wll run this cmd on linux

Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kadrek on September 13, 2015, 11:44:49 PM
Guide for mining on windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antho281 on September 13, 2015, 11:45:28 PM
How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?

Again, you will turn those nodes off,  then start them with the new genesis.

which means you wll run this cmd on linux

Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 13, 2015, 11:45:35 PM
How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?

Just put the ip address of the computer running the wallet with the rpc port.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 13, 2015, 11:47:57 PM
Guide for mining on windows?

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 13, 2015, 11:49:16 PM


its 9656 :P

Not 42786?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 13, 2015, 11:50:28 PM

Saw the same thing...not able to mine on the test myself.  Can't connect.

Cmon ocminer!!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 13, 2015, 11:50:35 PM
How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?

Just put the ip address of the computer running the wallet with the rpc port.

OK so i would put the internal ip address of the comp thats on my LAN (point it to my main comp) and the :9656 port?

What about a computer NOT on my lan (in my office?)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 13, 2015, 11:51:35 PM
Just to clarify...we can keep our entire Test install right now, including account. We just need to delete genesis.json, get new genesis.json at launch, and rerun step 2 and we're good to go for live chain?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 13, 2015, 11:52:33 PM
Just to clarify...we can keep our entire Test install right now, including account. We just need to delete genesis.json, get new genesis.json at launch, and rerun step 2 and we're good to go for live chain?

correct

9656 is rpc-port
42786 is p2p-port


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kashking on September 13, 2015, 11:59:40 PM
slack link isn't working btw


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 14, 2015, 12:00:29 AM
slack link isn't working btw

Thanks, you can pm me an email address for an invite if you want.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 12:00:46 AM
How To Update for Linux

Stop your node if its running!
Code:
exit

remove old chain
Code:
rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}


Create genesis.json
Code:
nano genesis.json

Copy and paste this new genesis into genesis.json
Code:
{
    "nonce": "0x214652414e4b4f21",
    "timestamp": "0x0",
    "parentHash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "extraData": "0x4672616e6b6f497346726565646f6d",
    "gasLimit": "0x1388",
    "difficulty": "0x40000000",
    "mixhash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "coinbase": "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898",
    "alloc": {
        "0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
        "0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},
    "0xc075fa11f85bda3aaba67106226aaf086ac16f4e": { "balance": "100000000000000000000000"},
    "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000"}
    }
}

Start GEXP with new genesis
Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json

exit GEXP (ctrl+c)

Start GEXP
Code:
build/bin/gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

Just for safety add some nodes
Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")

Update For windows

Download the new binaries

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64/archive/master.zip

Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat


Add peers from above just incase..

Doubleclick Start_Mining.bat


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 14, 2015, 12:01:56 AM
How do we solo mine if we are using multiple computers?

Im presuming the address's aren't all going to be the same so?

I have the testnet working fine just dont know how to get it to mine the true coin when it launches?


ethminer.exe -G -F http://ip.to.your.expance:9656


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 14, 2015, 12:03:28 AM



I can't connect to the suprnova pool




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 14, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
hey guys, I mined the block #1 ^^


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kashking on September 14, 2015, 12:06:27 AM
woot, got a block :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proletariat on September 14, 2015, 12:07:06 AM
hey guys, I mined the block #1 ^^

It's all downhill from here. Totally bad karma to mine block 1


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:07:28 AM



I can't connect to the suprnova pool



It will be available in 6-8 hours...

BTW Smoothest launch ever


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:08:29 AM
Creating DAG for 2min, crapy PC :(

other PC mined 57... I hope I am on right chain


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 12:09:29 AM
when i click start expanse it just flash and close?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:09:40 AM
So small reward compared to premine  :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
when i click start expanse it just flash and close?

do you have the genesis bat still open?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 12:10:54 AM
when i click start expanse it just flash and close?

do you have the genesis bat still open?

yes

i use win7 64bit,
clicked on 1 to make new account, 2 ant it stay opet and when click on  setup step 2 genezis it just flash and close


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:11:28 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 14, 2015, 12:11:48 AM
What block are we on?


-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 14, 2015, 12:12:42 AM
I tough the reward was 8:

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance("0x3a0380a46a1bf95ef0176cb74157ad55045ba928"))
7

How come is this possible?  (Just curious)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:12:46 AM
Block time is 1 minute I believe so that would make this at block 12 now.

This didn't install for me. do I need a genesis.json file?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 12:13:18 AM
The program cant start because MSVCR120.dll missing :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:13:55 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
73
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
65

WTF is goning on  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:14:12 AM
Ok, I'm using my account created during testnet and was told it's fine for the live network. I erase everything except the wallet dat and ran the genesis for the live network. I started the wallet and it just sits idle. What's going on?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kashking on September 14, 2015, 12:14:54 AM
anyone know the command that's similar to getinfo on a qt wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:15:08 AM
The program cant start because MSVCR120.dll missing :(

You need virtual C++ 2013 redistributable from MS to be installed...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:15:14 AM
when i click start expanse it just flash and close?

do you have the genesis bat still open?

yes

i use win7 64bit,
clicked on 1 to make new account, 2 ant it stay opet and when click on  setup step 2 genezis it just flash and close
After 2nd step close this window , and than step 3


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:15:24 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 14, 2015, 12:15:58 AM
Is the main launch ready yet? I've found out that the countdown timer is set to zero but I haven't seen any updates yet. Is Expanse stable enough to use now  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 12:16:12 AM
when i click start expanse it just flash and close?

do you have the genesis bat still open?

yes

i use win7 64bit,
clicked on 1 to make new account, 2 ant it stay opet and when click on  setup step 2 genezis it just flash and close
After 2nd step close this window , and than step 3

thanks it work :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
ok. im up and mining. blocks are being found fast. Is there a block explorer yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:18:14 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:19:03 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

orphan or uncle is lees!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:19:22 AM
Is the main launch ready yet? I've found out that the countdown timer is set to zero but I haven't seen any updates yet. Is Expanse stable enough to use now  ???

Yes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173722.msg12412842#msg12412842


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: therealbigcoin on September 14, 2015, 12:19:50 AM
i cant get any peers :( howto show my nodeurl so u can add me?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nix_on on September 14, 2015, 12:19:58 AM
Dev
What's the actual block and what is the command to check it?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:20:05 AM
nice. I mined a block! woohoo. if only I have more GPU power. I would be taking in so many coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: soulistyce on September 14, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
admin.peers gives me null  ??? ???
not syncing


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 12:20:14 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

I'm noticing the same.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:20:36 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

orphan or uncle is lees!

Oh... Thanks!

Launch is a way better than shift then! Smooth and with instructions  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lcall7 on September 14, 2015, 12:20:51 AM
How To Update for Linux

Stop your node if its running!
Code:
exit

remove old chain
Code:
rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}


Create genesis.json
Code:
nano genesis.json

Copy and paste this new genesis into genesis.json
Code:
{
    "nonce": "0x214652414e4b4f21",
    "timestamp": "0x0",
    "parentHash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "extraData": "0x4672616e6b6f497346726565646f6d",
    "gasLimit": "0x1388",
    "difficulty": "0x40000000",
    "mixhash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "coinbase": "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898",
    "alloc": {
        "0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
        "0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},
    "0xc075fa11f85bda3aaba67106226aaf086ac16f4e": { "balance": "100000000000000000000000"},
    "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000"}
    }
}

Start GEXP with new genesis
Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json

exit GEXP (ctrl+c)

Start GEXP
Code:
build/bin/gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

Just for safety add some nodes
Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")

Update For windows

Download the new binaries

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64/archive/master.zip

Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat


Add peers from above just incase..

Doubleclick Start_Mining.bat



Just heard from someone that you do not know how generate a hardcoded genesisblock in default_genesis.go, so you are using a json file which should be used in test networks only. Youre a funny guy


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:20:57 AM
Dev
What's the actual block and what is the command to check it?

It's easier to get this information by searching on google for Ethereum and the same questions. Then replace "eth" with "exp" and it should work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:21:11 AM
looks like me was on wrong chain my balance droped from 200 to 60 :(

pls MORE peers!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

orphan or uncle is lees!

Oh... Thanks!

Launch is a way better than shift then! Smooth and with instructions  :)

I mined SHF. I think it was smoother but nvm both were really smooth. I'm just typing this to keep bumping the thread up.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 12:23:00 AM
How To Update for Linux

Stop your node if its running!
Code:
exit

remove old chain
Code:
rm -rf ~/.expanse/{chaindata,dapp,history}


Create genesis.json
Code:
nano genesis.json

Copy and paste this new genesis into genesis.json
Code:
{
    "nonce": "0x214652414e4b4f21",
    "timestamp": "0x0",
    "parentHash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "extraData": "0x4672616e6b6f497346726565646f6d",
    "gasLimit": "0x1388",
    "difficulty": "0x40000000",
    "mixhash": "0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
    "coinbase": "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898",
    "alloc": {
        "0xbb94f0ceb32257275b2a7a9c094c13e469b4563e": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000000" },
        "0x15656715068ab0dbdf0ab00748a8a19e40f28192": { "balance": "1000000000000000000000000"},
    "0xc075fa11f85bda3aaba67106226aaf086ac16f4e": { "balance": "100000000000000000000000"},
    "0x93decab0cd745598860f782ac1e8f046cb99e898": { "balance": "10000000000000000000000"}
    }
}

Start GEXP with new genesis
Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis genesis.json

exit GEXP (ctrl+c)

Start GEXP
Code:
build/bin/gexp --rpc console 2>exp.log

Just for safety add some nodes
Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")

Update For windows

Download the new binaries

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64/archive/master.zip

Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat


Add peers from above just incase..

Doubleclick Start_Mining.bat


How to add peers?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:23:37 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Yes , my balance is also lowering. Never seen this before.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:23:59 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

orphan or uncle is lees!

Oh... Thanks!

Launch is a way better than shift then! Smooth and with instructions  :)

I mined SHF. I think it was smoother but nvm both were really smooth. I'm just typing this to keep bumping the thread up.

SHIFT was hard to start without instructions to newbies like me :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 14, 2015, 12:24:14 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

orphan or uncle is lees!

Oh... Thanks!

Launch is a way better than shift then! Smooth and with instructions  :)

lol yes but it's hard ... just lost 2/3 of my mined EXP !!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 14, 2015, 12:24:53 AM
looks like me was on wrong chain my balance droped from 200 to 60 :(

pls MORE peers!

Same here... 


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:24:59 AM
Ok, I'm using my account created during testnet and was told it's fine for the live network. I erase everything except the wallet dat and ran the genesis for the live network. I started the wallet and it just sits idle. What's going on?

Nevermind, I got it going. Forgot the wallet log command put the block info in it...lol

Block are coming super fast at the moment... 8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BChydro on September 14, 2015, 12:25:06 AM
Balance keeps dancing around like crazy, lol never thought I'd want to see difficulty increase before


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:25:53 AM
I have no much EXP. This isn't possible. Is there a problem with difficulty adjustment? I know SHF had a problem with difficulty adjustment. I'm at block 500 in only 25 minutes. I thought blocks were going to be solved every minute?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 14, 2015, 12:26:20 AM
Is the main launch ready yet? I've found out that the countdown timer is set to zero but I haven't seen any updates yet. Is Expanse stable enough to use now  ???

Yes. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173722.msg12412842#msg12412842

I followed the steps mentioned to start expanse, but when I start the genesis block/server I get this message on the cmd. It says synchronization failed. Am I doing something wrong?  ???

http://i62.tinypic.com/215vl3.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:26:28 AM
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
56
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
64
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
71
> web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))
60

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

That is normal, diff is low and ppl jumping in... some block got rewritten... soon diff in 1-2h will gooo WAY up and there will be less orphant/uncles which are paid in ethereum/expanse network

I mean reward is not always 8...

orphan or uncle is lees!

Oh... Thanks!

Launch is a way better than shift then! Smooth and with instructions  :)

lol yes but it's hard ... just lost 2/3 of my mined EXP !!!!

I lost 30% at this moment but diff seems growing fast already.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:27:38 AM
NEW NODE add for less orphans!
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 12:27:57 AM
How to add nodes please?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:28:14 AM
NEW NODE add for less orphans!
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864
895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")

HAHAHAAHHAHAHA no way man. You're not going to be the #1 fork. I am!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:28:47 AM
How to add nodes please?


just type in console:
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:29:06 AM
looks like me was on wrong chain my balance droped from 200 to 60 :(

pls MORE peers!

Same here... 

The network isn't stable...When from 440 to 89 EXP....Wowzer!!!  :-\ :P


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:30:12 AM
NEW NODE add for less orphans!
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864
895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")

HAHAHAAHHAHAHA no way man. You're not going to be the #1 fork. I am!

you are late so far have 8 nodes connected already :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:30:13 AM
How to add nodes please?


just type in console:
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864
895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")

You need to remove this enter

admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:30:56 AM
looks like me was on wrong chain my balance droped from 200 to 60 :(

pls MORE peers!

Same here... 

The network isn't stable...When from 440 to 89 EXP....Wowzer!!!  :-\ :P

89 is pretty good still. Do you only have 1 card? I have about the same with my 1 GPU card. Someone with like 10 cards is really taking in some good EXP totals.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
NEW NODE add for less orphans!
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864
895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")

HAHAHAAHHAHAHA no way man. You're not going to be the #1 fork. I am!

you are late so far have 8 nodes connected already :)

I only have 1 GPU. I was just joking around. How do I check if I am connected to you?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:32:17 AM
Fixed!  822 mined 800Mhs my chain is MAIN! addme
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: litecoin111 on September 14, 2015, 12:32:45 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
WTF? over 300 exp and now 0

186 exp and then 0 again..  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:33:30 AM
I have 4x750Ti and got only 68  :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 12:33:37 AM
How to add nodes please?


just type in console:
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@[::]:42786")

Fatal blockchain db error by doing that.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:33:56 AM
WTF? over 300 exp and now 0

186 exp and then 0 again..  ???

you were on wrong chain just add my node! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:34:07 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 12:34:30 AM
Im using this to connect to my main computer so i dont have different accounts

is this correct because it wont connect

@echo off
color 0A
"ethminer.exe" -G -F http://192.168.0.34:9656


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 12:36:16 AM
I am attempting to solo mine using Windows (x64) and followed the following instructions:

Quote
Update For windows

Download the new binaries

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64/archive/master.zip

Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat

I downloaded the package, and ran them in order. However, the Expanse.bat file when running (green) looks like it is throwing errors.

http://i.imgur.com/29DsPXX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9kf9ww5.jpg

As you can guess I am not great when it comes to mining, and figured that the instructions sounded a bit too simple to actually work.

If someone can point me in the right direction, that would be appreciated.

Regards,

Richard


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:36:29 AM
im only connected to 2 peers. I added your node but still only says 2


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:37:16 AM
ETH also used a genesis.json file... which you had to load in yourself.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 12:37:20 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: litecoin111 on September 14, 2015, 12:37:44 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

where do I enter that? on windows


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:37:49 AM
im only connected to 2 peers. I added your node but still only says 2


duno, I have forwarded the port :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

where do I enter that?

gepx console


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 12:38:10 AM
Great launch guys, and apologies for my previous snarky comment although I'm still not a fan of the huge premine.

Make it worth our while and we'll all be here to support you and do what we can to help.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:38:12 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: soulistyce on September 14, 2015, 12:38:59 AM
WTF? over 300 exp and now 0

186 exp and then 0 again..  ???

you were on wrong chain just add my node! :)
same here coins just disapear


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:39:14 AM
We need a block explorer!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 12:39:42 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:39:52 AM
So what would be the process of allowing part of the premine to be given to someone to make a bock explorer


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:40:14 AM


Just heard from someone that you do not know how generate a hardcoded genesisblock in default_genesis.go, so you are using a json file which should be used in test networks only. Youre a funny guy dev

 lol suck a dick, please say it 10 more times sock puppet, doesnt make it any more true than the first time you said it.

Oh dang, please keep it civil. You are the dev and just brush comments like that off.

On more serious note, I only have 4 peers shown when I check with "admin.peers". Some people are getting 8, I hope I'm not forking to the wrong chain...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:40:37 AM
I hope my fork wins! I'm really getting a lot of coins. It makes me feel like I'm on the wrong fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 12:40:58 AM
I take it the adding nodes is done from gexp attach?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 14, 2015, 12:41:06 AM
F**ck my internet provider ...
Lost my connection during precious minutes then I had a db blockchain error , i had to restart my box grrrr.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:41:13 AM


Just heard from someone that you do not know how generate a hardcoded genesisblock in default_genesis.go, so you are using a json file which should be used in test networks only. Youre a funny guy dev

 lol suck a dick, please say it 10 more times sock puppet, doesnt make it any more true than the first time you said it.

Oh dang, please keep it civil. You are the dev and just brush comments like that off.

On more serious note, I only have 4 peers shown when I check with "admin.peers". Some people are getting 8, I hope I'm not forking to the wrong chain...

I have 4 also. Don't let that other person with 10 win! argh


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:41:33 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work
Wow, you were very lucky. I have much greater power, and much less coins....mining from first seconds :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 14, 2015, 12:41:58 AM
Im using this to connect to my main computer so i dont have different accounts

is this correct because it wont connect

@echo off
color 0A
"ethminer.exe" -G -F http://192.168.0.34:9656


I'm having the same problem since testnet, but in Linux


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: lcall7 on September 14, 2015, 12:42:12 AM


Just heard from someone that you do not know how generate a hardcoded genesisblock in default_genesis.go, so you are using a json file which should be used in test networks only. Youre a funny guy dev

 lol suck a dick, please say it 10 more times sock puppet, doesnt make it any more true than the first time you said it.

It is true. Your teenage reaction to it tells. Why are you using a json file with the default ethereum genesis still hardcoded?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:42:31 AM
I hope my fork wins! I'm really getting a lot of coins. It makes me feel like I'm on the wrong fork.

I had 440, but it went down to 89 and now it back up at 246. Seems like it stabilizing and on the right chain, I really hope. Would suck to lose the EXP, if on the wrong chain.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:42:33 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

Wow I have much less with 4x750 Ti  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:43:15 AM
a lot of people are going to be mad because not everyone is connected to each other.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: proctologic on September 14, 2015, 12:44:25 AM
I am attempting to solo mine using Windows (x64) and followed the following instructions:

Quote
Update For windows

Download the new binaries

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64/archive/master.zip

Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat

I downloaded the package, and ran them in order. However, the Expanse.bat file when running (green) looks like it is throwing errors.

http://i.imgur.com/29DsPXX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9kf9ww5.jpg

As you can guess I am not great when it comes to mining, and figured that the instructions sounded a bit too simple to actually work.

If someone can point me in the right direction, that would be appreciated.

Regards,

Richard





Make sure libcurl.dll is there


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:44:26 AM
Better do a relaunch...

Encode this genesis block thing just to shut that guy up. Then fix the difficulty adjustment. Something is seriously wrong. blocks are still being solved every 2 seconds.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 12:45:09 AM
a lot of people are going to be mad because not everyone is connected to each other.

Shit. I'd be happy to just connect.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 12:45:18 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

Wow I have much less with 4x750 Ti  :o

I think im on the bloody testnet still...at block 6637 :(

Other computret say at block 657....
\



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nhutphan on September 14, 2015, 12:45:29 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

You have to run: gexp --rpc --rpcaddr xxx --rpcport 9656 on your Miner 01 (xxx is your IP address of Miner 01)

Miner 01: ethminer -G -F http://xxx

Miner 02: ethminer -G -F http://xxx


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 12:46:05 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

Wow I have much less with 4x750 Ti  :o

I think im on the bloody testnet still...at block 6637 :(

Other computret say at block 657....
\



what command to check blocks?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 14, 2015, 12:46:11 AM
Is there a GUI wallet for Expanse? (you know beginner like) Because it is somewhat complicated to set up everything via commands  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:46:29 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

Wow I have much less with 4x750 Ti  :o

I think im on the bloody testnet still...at block 6637 :(

Other computret say at block 657....
\


I am on ~ block #1090


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 12:46:42 AM
Better do a relaunch...

Encode this genesis block thing just to shut that guy up. Then fix the difficulty adjustment. Something is seriously wrong. blocks are still being solved every 2 seconds.

haha ill get right on that..


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:47:30 AM
Better do a relaunch...

Encode this genesis block thing just to shut that guy up. Then fix the difficulty adjustment. Something is seriously wrong. blocks are still being solved every 2 seconds.

haha ill get right on that..

What's wrong with the difficulty for real though? 1100 blocks already solved and it isn't slowing down.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:47:39 AM
Better do a relaunch...

Encode this genesis block thing just to shut that guy up. Then fix the difficulty adjustment. Something is seriously wrong. blocks are still being solved every 2 seconds.

Relaunch, that's an evil word in cryptos....lol

The genesis json can be installed in an updated version, not really a concern right now.

More worrisome part is the network block times and possible forks all over the place.....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 12:48:07 AM
Something is seriously wrong with the difficulty... or not?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: rossr1 on September 14, 2015, 12:48:19 AM
tried to install 3 times on windows 10,  keep getting  "program can't start because MSVCR120.dll is missing"  any ideas how to fix pls?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nix_on on September 14, 2015, 12:48:27 AM
Somthing is fucked up
can't connect to any of your peers.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:48:47 AM
block 1144


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BChydro on September 14, 2015, 12:48:55 AM
I liked the way genesis block was launched... The Ethereum launch was super convoluted and a massive fuck around. Sure, it was secure, but all of Vitalik's nerd friends got first dibs on the easy blocks. This way was much more fair


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 12:49:23 AM
I am attempting to solo mine using Windows (x64) and followed the following instructions:

Quote
Update For windows

Download the new binaries

https://github.com/expanse-org/EasyExpanseWin64/archive/master.zip

Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat

I downloaded the package, and ran them in order. However, the Expanse.bat file when running (green) looks like it is throwing errors.

http://i.imgur.com/29DsPXX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9kf9ww5.jpg

As you can guess I am not great when it comes to mining, and figured that the instructions sounded a bit too simple to actually work.

If someone can point me in the right direction, that would be appreciated.

Regards,

Richard





Make sure libcurl.dll is there

Thanks for the reply

libcurl.dll is in the folder.

http://i.imgur.com/jZ9Bhqt.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 12:49:48 AM
Something is seriously wrong with the difficulty... or not?

diff need time to adjust, maybe 3-5h or more


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:50:16 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

Wow I have much less with 4x750 Ti  :o

I think im on the bloody testnet still...at block 6637 :(

Other computret say at block 657....
\


I am on ~ block #1090

The log file says I'm on 1169...Hope that's right....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kashking on September 14, 2015, 12:50:48 AM
won't connect to any peers, this sucks :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: soulistyce on September 14, 2015, 12:51:11 AM
somethings really wrong... download genesis, turn on gexp console, add peers and still says admin.peers null.....started mining got fork....better redirect my 100mhs to a real coin eth....
f.....this


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 14, 2015, 12:51:27 AM
I have these nodes:

> admin.peers
[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "96d3919b903e7f5ad59ac2f73c43be9172d9d27e2771355db03fd194732b795829a31fe2ea6de10 9d0804786c39a807e155f065b4b94c6fce167becd0ac02383",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.65:52316",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-73897d7f/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.22.34:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc1270 01f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.65:42219",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "68.197.12.14:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "beef3f7262f4be4eee4bc236628f033dfe55cee7dd62a176e19b4419f1985f8c6365fd58c31d1cf cc44fc9db0f4822af2976c5a7e9d8fec3a89c055eb8aec779",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.65:42169",
    Name: "Gexp/HELLO TEAM EXPANSE :) - By the CryptoBeef/v1.1.3-164a9acc/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "14586b1946935117bf45d7694055c66c2e4590f8c993711ba96d960b8f09299098350d88f500b6b 491863d6ab7519c2985c79bf1def2f409f666837601dfaac2",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.65:56519",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-164a9acc/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "52.8.158.133:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e3 97ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1",
    LocalAddress: "192.168.1.65:42025",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.2-74cee8c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:42786"
}]


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 12:51:59 AM
For anyone who cares you can git pull origin and get the hard coded genesis.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/blob/master/core/default_genesis.go#L30


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 12:52:10 AM
block 1208?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
Something is seriously wrong with the difficulty... or not?

diff need time to adjust, maybe 3-5h or more

I could see why ocminer wanted to wait 3 hours or more before launching the pool. Let the network stabilize a bit.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: LieTOme on September 14, 2015, 12:52:53 AM
a lot of people are going to be mad because not everyone is connected to each other.

you will lose a lot of hope if not connected. this ruling


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nhutphan on September 14, 2015, 12:54:28 AM
I found a block so fast. Hope everything right.

Block # 1304 with 2514.75 exps now


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 14, 2015, 12:54:41 AM
everything is fine, lot of peers for me, at least 20.


this launch was perfect.

want some ? sorry for the big list :

[{
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9 e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:57561",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "18.97.7.22:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443 d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "85.217.235.15:63117"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44c bed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-b0f7a5c3/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "54.72.197.108:46741"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "61b016b1e1c4d529c266270fd56620ed9bccf5bf4f1ba2cf5a00b1c9ef045066a5097a33bd7fcda baa0e1af8aa58d6d6b03888143334f94a85267a48ef91e867",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "5.12.18.104:49317"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc1270 01f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:45547",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "68.197.12.14:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d 4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "71.62.31.72:49568"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "222b558cc174e204312a3c2d44d00d1d70512d09f5624220ed4d53ebf881721e3f75f5abfc86e23 daacc0b244c8cb81c644f3f60456733bbbe3d56303e678c6d",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "78.69.188.169:64887"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "f65bd9e9e1bb235fa5d3370f6f581a32b5d7a4ec69104ecf3b0b72261ec58f1e14b02ef4612076b d7358944ce1a5913e917bd5177b3b1825c92c1ce62e0c6b99",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "74.196.59.103:58308"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "14586b1946935117bf45d7694055c66c2e4590f8c993711ba96d960b8f09299098350d88f500b6b 491863d6ab7519c2985c79bf1def2f409f666837601dfaac2",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:57324",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-164a9acc/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "52.8.158.133:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "192c2cdc2d022d7875428b520ac6693d3ec30137842e87a259e5f49581632972e771dba844dd7e6 fc3f379a021fed726b98d5136def0f49e2fcdd421455f1599",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "91.76.107.143:51244"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "faaf9570e771b68946b94925f0ded6ed87540470474d815a0f58ea1f426cad8ad4a2f9609fe12cc 174dc89a311c1725b28518098e71a998000727db8e7a9f3ea",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-164a9acc/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "108.56.186.215:55332"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "2ad2cd661b54315c9eac66c2021c57e3b0dbbc7028189276513a41e5f6b953b12d5d0356f18103f ea6e73590419501fb007c84048ce49168d9b64f950aaeef2f",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-b0f7a5c3/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "52.18.217.16:54159"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "aea9674bebbf9f7c75587857444602f746390414edbb51f3bb6c47d9d46eea4299ce7e7fee114ff 5a808ab616885071d48ac0f7bfc5bc79ee9a25b51783c8a3e",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-164a9acc/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "84.79.205.80:58719"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "63f7d60b7747093671c0c59e9cf0d6188af4f7cc464ed945041fd3d3e82f053d7e0648225d9ab2e 0a9fe6f0992972b298d7bd5723fc20cd4c26583788d9a2bab",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "50.67.167.108:52459"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "64674671a3ded38b3a009e6474e0777c89f3ea09973ce350e060e40ad8b056dde79e29843fc4baf b93d9bf8c7dcef67d6143062f25d2c57dd456d4cb979b5603",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "54.175.211.118:52987"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "9506c1d6a49768863ae2df75feb329a0c340c6bf7d89da3dc0459c13cf92d23eece708e52886f2d fa6fdd3d491c16cab2aa0ac58cfbf527ac15d9810fc244780",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-b0f7a5c3/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "52.19.217.216:58781"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "7d602522230726e1d99351096cc197110f3a9913c95ed0bf140854ac3c1f181cb23c3964922f9c5 65d2cc2c2ef409e6cb0077e5f11a3671936f3f663c7dd39a7",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-b0f7a5c3/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "54.72.197.243:41550"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "7841cd74d1a65a87501c6f3c35dbdceaf9775f51fdf373f0d7310fa59d11cbb3bd8c245cc0e87ee 3648bb4910b0e1b955cc34671272569997dd616b4654efa7a",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3/windows/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "86.132.38.121:62288"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "96d3919b903e7f5ad59ac2f73c43be9172d9d27e2771355db03fd194732b795829a31fe2ea6de10 9d0804786c39a807e155f065b4b94c6fce167becd0ac02383",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:60113",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-73897d7f/linux/go1.4.2",
    RemoteAddress: "45.55.22.34:42786"
}, {
    Caps: "exp/60, exp/61",
    ID: "78cea42c00e54d51a444991b1d88b2cb1b2829e2f9d7bbf23e8d29e87399de60833ce51415d48eb 4d2fe8a7adacafd6bc0354a1edaa0cface7d7ae0e7325e354",
    LocalAddress: "104.236.72.142:42786",
    Name: "Gexp/v1.1.3-b0f7a5c3/linux/go1.4",
    RemoteAddress: "37.48.74.42:55881"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: rossr1 on September 14, 2015, 12:55:45 AM
tried to install 3 times on windows 10,  keep getting  "program can't start because MSVCR120.dll is missing"  any ideas how to fix pls?

4 installs.... Anybody??


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 12:56:08 AM
For anyone who cares you can git pull origin and get the hard coded genesis.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/blob/master/core/default_genesis.go#L30

Why not just create this and put it for down load for those of us who don't know how so we have a working gexp.exe to start mining?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:56:24 AM
I found a block so fast. Hope everything right.

Block # 1304 with 2514.75 exps now

How much hash power do you have? I only have 412.25 EXP with 3 hd 7907 at 74 MHS. I'm guessing you have 300 mhs.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 14, 2015, 12:57:10 AM
How to open wallet and check balance? Also how to make sure not on test net?
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

I get a red 288 - does that sound right?


Congratulations! What hardware do you have?

1 x R9 380....

I have another computer im trying to connect to the same account but i cant get it to work

You have to run: gexp --rpc --rpcaddr xxx --rpcport 9656 on your Miner 01 (xxx is your IP address of Miner 01)

Miner 01: ethminer -G -F http://xxx

Miner 02: ethminer -G -F http://xxx

You are my hero, man! Thanks a lot!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: cgt99 on September 14, 2015, 12:58:23 AM
tried to install 3 times on windows 10,  keep getting  "program can't start because MSVCR120.dll is missing"  any ideas how to fix pls?

Yes, ethminer needs MSVCR120.dll and msvcp120.dll which is missing.

download from here:
http://cryptomining-blog.com/5684-updated-ethminer-0-9-41-nvidia-cuda-version-for-windows-2/


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Abiky on September 14, 2015, 12:58:47 AM
It makes me wonder on what exchanges will Expanse be? I'm just going to buy some instead of mining them. I think it is much easier for me now that I don't have good hashrate. Would like to see Expanse on Cryptsy exchange  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 12:58:56 AM
everything is fine, lot of peers for me, at least 20.

Wow, I only have 3 peers, adding new doesn't help


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 12:59:21 AM
I give up i have 1 computer  R9 380 getting like 100 coins i min is now up to over 700
another compurer 2 x R9 290x getting coins slowly and is up to 288
and a 3rd computer R9 270x getting coins same speed as the 2 x 290x

all running the same details so im assuming i have 3 different accounts?

How do i know if im connect to the right chain or blocks or even bloody coin?

Win 10 btw


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 12:59:32 AM
For anyone who cares you can git pull origin and get the hard coded genesis.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/blob/master/core/default_genesis.go#L30

The genesis json issue is really a major thing, we know you'll incorporate it in a future update.

We really do need a real-time block explorer asap, would be really helpful.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 14, 2015, 01:00:02 AM
I found a block so fast. Hope everything right.

Block # 1304 with 2514.75 exps now

Sounds like you found many blocks!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MakingBubbles on September 14, 2015, 01:00:21 AM
For anyone who cares you can git pull origin and get the hard coded genesis.

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/blob/master/core/default_genesis.go#L30

Why not just create this and put it for down load for those of us who don't know how so we have a working gexp.exe to start mining?

that would eliminate the inside advantage----- i cant get this thing to start ----  i keep getting a hexcode


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 14, 2015, 01:01:18 AM
god this is such a circus. like watching an episode of the keystone cops. how is any of this fair?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:02:24 AM
It makes me wonder on what exchanges will Expanse be? I'm just going to buy some instead of mining them. I think it is much easier for me now that I don't have good hashrate. Would like to see Expanse on Cryptsy exchange  ;D

We need a block explorer before an exchange would take the coin. Preferably Poloniex, which I honest think is the best current exchange out there. Crypsty can be slow during high volume trading. Bittrex and C-Cex take on some maybe scam coins, but that's just my opinion and observations.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 01:04:40 AM
Not getting many answers but hopefully this will.

Ran the new gexp but it says connecting to port 42786. Isn't this the test port?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 01:05:12 AM
We need a pool up so its fair atleast to a point for those noobs like me


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 14, 2015, 01:07:35 AM
hmm... why each founded block give me only 2 coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: DudeAtWork420 on September 14, 2015, 01:08:00 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Ey77OJF.jpg

why, what? is this right?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:08:20 AM
We need a pool up so its fair atleast to a point for those noobs like me


ocminer will hopefully have the pool up in 5-7 hours from now at https://exp.suprnova.cc .


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:09:10 AM
hmm... why each founded block give me only 2 coins?

you found uncles


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:09:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Ey77OJF.jpg

why, what? is this right?

Looks like you need to erase your DAG files and regenerate.

Using the miner command on the wallet will do cpu mining.

Use ethminer to gpu mine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 01:10:22 AM
block 1268?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:10:46 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 01:11:33 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MickGhee on September 14, 2015, 01:12:51 AM
What am I doing wrong at block 0 when l
I run miner I get unable to start correctly then a hex code


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 01:13:08 AM
what is the command for seeing block?

and noob info how to add peers?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:13:41 AM
block 1268?

I'm on block 1797.


Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

I have the same four and seem stable for me, could be wrong.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BChydro on September 14, 2015, 01:13:51 AM
Difficulty 2.6 G now. Started at 1.0 G


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 14, 2015, 01:13:58 AM
We need a pool up so its fair atleast to a point for those noobs like me


ocminer will hopefully have the pool up in 5-7 hours from now at https://exp.suprnova.cc .

If he wants to bring the pool up sooner that would be nice, but it is his pool and up to him. (Although you can pre register and get ready)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 14, 2015, 01:15:03 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

same here


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 01:15:09 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here
For me too


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:15:48 AM
So without peers solo mining is worthless...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 01:16:18 AM
We need a pool up so its fair atleast to a point for those noobs like me


ocminer will hopefully have the pool up in 5-7 hours from now at https://exp.suprnova.cc .

If he wants to bring the pool up sooner that would be nice, but it is his pool and up to him. (Although you can pre register and get ready)

Would be awesome if he did. He makes a few from everyone so he gets something from it


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:16:39 AM
Difficulty 2.6 G now. Started at 1.0 G

That's why the blocks are still coming fast.

We need a pool up so its fair atleast to a point for those noobs like me


ocminer will hopefully have the pool up in 5-7 hours from now at https://exp.suprnova.cc .

If he wants to bring the pool up sooner that would be nice, but it is his pool and up to him. (Although you can pre register and get ready)

I could understand from his perspective, he wants the pool to run smooth. Letting the network settle before staring it would minimize the issues.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 01:16:56 AM
I give up i have 1 computer  R9 380 getting like 100 coins i min is now up to over 700
another compurer 2 x R9 290x getting coins slowly and is up to 288
and a 3rd computer R9 270x getting coins same speed as the 2 x 290x

all running the same details so im assuming i have 3 different accounts?

How do i know if im connect to the right chain or blocks or even bloody coin?

Win 10 btw

ho wmuch hashrate you have with 1x R9 380?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:18:30 AM
So without peers solo mining is worthless...

Without peers, you can not update to the latest block/chain, which in turn you can not solo mine and/or send or receive EXP.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 01:18:32 AM
Are there any clear and concise instruction on how to mine using Windows? (x64) I have tried following the instructions for Windows and it just doesn't work.

In the updated instructions, it starts with:

Quote
Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat

Then:

Quote
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat

and finally:

Quote
Doubleclick Start_Mining.bat

I do all the above in sequence and nothing happens. If I run any of them as administrator, it just flashed up the cmd window and then disappears.

Also, and this may not have anything to do with it at all, but if I run Setup_Step_1_new_account.bat (which aren't in the instructions) It will allow me to type y/n for the terms etc, but when it asks me to type in a passphrase, it won't let me type anything?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 01:18:50 AM
I give up i have 1 computer  R9 380 getting like 100 coins i min is now up to over 700
another compurer 2 x R9 290x getting coins slowly and is up to 288
and a 3rd computer R9 270x getting coins same speed as the 2 x 290x

all running the same details so im assuming i have 3 different accounts?

How do i know if im connect to the right chain or blocks or even bloody coin?

Win 10 btw

ho wmuch hashrate you have with 1x R9 380?

380 = ~19
270x = ~ 17.9
2 x 290x = ~ 51

From what I'm seeing


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: andyatcrux on September 14, 2015, 01:19:05 AM
Dang, I missed the launch  :D. Well, mining now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 01:19:10 AM
So without peers solo mining is worthless...
YES, you get coins, but they are worthless. Many users mining on test net , and think they have a lot of coins. Launch was not so smooth after all, but everything looks smooth :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:19:36 AM
Who lost peer`s just restart expanse

I still have two from the start

pool is not advised in first 12h or more, get used! if fork ppl will just blame pool and everthing


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:21:01 AM
Are there any clear and concise instruction on how to mine using Windows? (x64) I have tried following the instructions for Windows and it just doesn't work.

In the updated instructions, it starts with:

Quote
Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat

Then:

Quote
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat

and finally:

Quote
Doubleclick Start_Mining.bat

I do all the above in sequence and nothing happens. If I run any of them as administrator, it just flashed up the cmd window and then disappears.

Also, and this may not have anything to do with it at all, but if I run Setup_Step_1_new_account.bat (which aren't in the instructions) It will allow me to type y/n for the terms etc, but when it asks me to type in a passphrase, it won't let me type anything?

You have to make sure to close the genesis bat after you run it. Also, make sure no other instances of the wallet is running.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 14, 2015, 01:21:16 AM
So how do i know i'm correctly connected and not mining on my own chain?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Bagdar13 on September 14, 2015, 01:21:22 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

Not sure if this will help but just fire off this command

I took the other user's nodes and put them into the proper format for copypasta

admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")
admin.addPeer("enode://faaf9570e771b68946b94925f0ded6ed87540470474d815a0f58ea1f426cad8ad4a2f9609fe12cc174dc89a311c1725b28518098e71a998000727db8e7a9f3ea@108.56.186.215:55332")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:22:23 AM
I give up i have 1 computer  R9 380 getting like 100 coins i min is now up to over 700
another compurer 2 x R9 290x getting coins slowly and is up to 288
and a 3rd computer R9 270x getting coins same speed as the 2 x 290x

all running the same details so im assuming i have 3 different accounts?

How do i know if im connect to the right chain or blocks or even bloody coin?

Win 10 btw

ho wmuch hashrate you have with 1x R9 380?

380 = ~19
270x = ~ 17.9
2 x 290x = ~ 51

From what I'm seeing


I get ~74 to 76~ off of 3x HD 7970, that's about 24~25 each gpu. 7970 is the same like the 280x


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:22:33 AM
Block 2108?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Bagdar13 on September 14, 2015, 01:23:37 AM
Block 2108?
Ya or at least now its 2149...50..err 54 err back to 52


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:24:38 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

Not sure if this will help but just fire off this command

I took the other user's nodes and put them into the proper format for copypasta

admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")
admin.addPeer("enode://faaf9570e771b68946b94925f0ded6ed87540470474d815a0f58ea1f426cad8ad4a2f9609fe12cc174dc89a311c1725b28518098e71a998000727db8e7a9f3ea@108.56.186.215:55332")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")

Great! 3 peers now  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: GoldTiger69 on September 14, 2015, 01:24:47 AM
block 1268?

I'm on block 1797.


Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

I have the same four and seem stable for me, could be wrong.

I'm on block 2040+


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 14, 2015, 01:25:12 AM
i went from having nodes to null now to 2. my coin count dropped in half


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:26:02 AM
Block 2108?
Ya or at least now its 2149...50..err 54 err back to 52

2190 from the last time I checked with me...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 14, 2015, 01:26:13 AM
is this forked? my coin count is going up and down.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:26:15 AM
i went from having nodes to null now to 2. my coin count dropped in half


Same here...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:26:33 AM
added nodes to the OP.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: YourMom420 on September 14, 2015, 01:26:39 AM
290 coins to 10 :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 01:26:43 AM
Are there any clear and concise instruction on how to mine using Windows? (x64) I have tried following the instructions for Windows and it just doesn't work.

In the updated instructions, it starts with:

Quote
Doubleclick Setup_Step2_genesis.bat

Then:

Quote
Doubleclick Start_Expanse.bat

and finally:

Quote
Doubleclick Start_Mining.bat

I do all the above in sequence and nothing happens. If I run any of them as administrator, it just flashed up the cmd window and then disappears.

Also, and this may not have anything to do with it at all, but if I run Setup_Step_1_new_account.bat (which aren't in the instructions) It will allow me to type y/n for the terms etc, but when it asks me to type in a passphrase, it won't let me type anything?

You have to make sure to close the genesis bat after you run it. Also, make sure no other instances of the wallet is running.

Excellent. Something is happening now:

Quote
Creating DAG. 26% done

I take it that I don't need to create an account then? Also, what about not being able to input a passphrase in Setup_Step_1_new_account.bat? Can I just ignore that step?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 14, 2015, 01:26:49 AM
now down to 1 peer. lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:27:14 AM
Block 2269


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:27:22 AM
is this forked? my coin count is going up and down.

there will be alot of minor forks due to the swift block time, the closer it gets to 1min the less forks, orphans, uncles we will see.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: rossr1 on September 14, 2015, 01:28:27 AM
where do i see if i have any coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 01:29:27 AM
Who lost peer`s just restart expanse

I still have two from the start

pool is not advised in first 12h or more, get used! if fork ppl will just blame pool and everthing
I restarted wallet few times, also started genesis few times more, and now I have 4 nodes finally....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 01:29:40 AM
command to see block?

and how to add nodes? dont sday i have to write all this to command line


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:29:46 AM
is this forked? my coin count is going up and down.

there will be alot of minor forks due to the swift block time, the closer it gets to 1min the less forks, orphans, uncles we will see.

I have 4 peers, do I need to add the node from the OP to get more peer?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: YourMom420 on September 14, 2015, 01:30:22 AM
why do balances keep changing negatively?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:30:33 AM
pls someone try to add me and report, looks like I missed to include IP
admin.addPeer("enode://378b5e49f7b1764c3bdbfb2b2bc18e4f40760adfc923c26899091cb25864895e905256f56eba8db9dda0c0cd750050d37311b6451345f6d320befa157d23e68e@188.2.33.179:42786")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:30:34 AM
Seems like solo is done for me... no blocks a long time, diff is high for my rig


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 01:31:07 AM
What should the correct port displayed?

42786 or 9656?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hazcat on September 14, 2015, 01:31:32 AM
Any simple instructions on how to check which block you are on to see if its the correct one?  as in command or something?  On windaows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:33:36 AM
What should the correct port displayed?

42786 or 9656?

42786 is right port for expanse network

RPC is 9656 or any you set to use in your local network


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 01:34:24 AM
Block Target: 60 seconds More like 3 second blocks  :-X


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 01:35:09 AM
command to see block?

and how to add nodes? dont sday i have to write all this to command line
LOL. Just copy this in the console:
Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kashking on September 14, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
Any simple instructions on how to check which block you are on to see if its the correct one?  as in command or something?  On windaows?


exp.blockNumber


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 01:36:26 AM
Need block explorer!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:36:30 AM
Block Target: 60 seconds More like 3 second blocks  :-X

The diff is rising slowly but surely, we should see 1min sometime tomorrow morning probably.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Rexxxem on September 14, 2015, 01:39:19 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

Not sure if this will help but just fire off this command

I took the other user's nodes and put them into the proper format for copypasta

admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")
admin.addPeer("enode://faaf9570e771b68946b94925f0ded6ed87540470474d815a0f58ea1f426cad8ad4a2f9609fe12cc174dc89a311c1725b28518098e71a998000727db8e7a9f3ea@108.56.186.215:55332")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")

Holy shit dude thank you. Added every peer that popped up with no avail. Added these and blam! Now on the right chain. Went from 1000s of exp to a flat 0 but atleast im on the right chain! Thanks again


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 01:42:37 AM
command to see block?

and how to add nodes? dont sday i have to write all this to command line
LOL. Just copy this in the console:
Code:
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d4ad71ef4251c4d7b07424526dea7a4205b19e24cdb3c44e22ece9e48a38c57f1eb917df67cc93db7a21e9d2aafa016601d0787f200ddac2804608f6c740fe94@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://6a1e4409f358ba71622f9573d4f1eefd922040c11f860d613a0b6183701bc4a5a9314e98474669473c30efca7d821ae1904e31eb0326579bca34daabe7e01d52@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://d98e814b2310bef6b07ca6d72b1982938c13702336e9a0c6004a562d6b8c2f5360850df714143c28f65c0d690d90341bbc72f953e232cf5673cc7b7db7fd665c@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")

Last question from me. Do I add this in the gexp attach console?

If so with the gexp closed then run or add with it open and running?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BChydro on September 14, 2015, 01:42:50 AM
I swear those nodes in the OP keep making my blockchain sync fail. Every time I add them, the sync fails seconds after


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:43:02 AM
Had 3 peers at least but now..

> admin.peers
null

 ???

same here

Not sure if this will help but just fire off this command

I took the other user's nodes and put them into the proper format for copypasta

admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")
admin.addPeer("enode://faaf9570e771b68946b94925f0ded6ed87540470474d815a0f58ea1f426cad8ad4a2f9609fe12cc174dc89a311c1725b28518098e71a998000727db8e7a9f3ea@108.56.186.215:55332")
admin.addPeer("enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://f944c6702a78a0cbcd6505b76daff069dad2e45ff88896c475da2bef47091c88e5b4042211233e397ad958be998003a2674151e60719c5fdeeff5f8cc2c231a1@74.196.59.103:42786")

Holy shit dude thank you. Added every peer that popped up with no avail. Added these and blam! Now on the right chain. Went from 1000s of exp to a flat 0 but atleast im on the right chain! Thanks again

I added those node, went from 4 peers to null to now at 2 peers....lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 01:43:10 AM
Block Target: 60 seconds More like 3 second blocks  :-X

The diff is rising slowly but surely, we should see 1min sometime tomorrow morning probably.

;) .. Nice time for my HDD on my 2nd mining PC to take a dump :(


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 01:44:31 AM
There is definitely an issue maintaining peers even AFTER all of the nodes are added.

I keep going null and have to restart.  What gives?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 01:44:51 AM
My miner seems to be stuck on, 'Getting work package'

When I check my exp.log file, I see:

Quote
Cannot start mining without etherbase address: etherbase address must be explicitly specified
I0914 02:28:56.998071   11212 backend.go:483]

Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 01:45:08 AM
There is definitely an issue maintaining peers even AFTER all of the nodes are added.

I keep going null and have to restart.  What gives?

Ports blocked ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:45:44 AM
I too must agree Expanse start nodes are a MESS!

keep going on wrong work and loosing nodes... it should be from start at least 8 nodes hard coded in europe, usa, asia, etc... now only ppl near main node will get most from the start


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: red5standingby on September 14, 2015, 01:45:44 AM
I swear those nodes in the OP keep making my blockchain sync fail. Every time I add them, the sync fails seconds after

me too
 then my balance changes, then i get null nodes.  then i get 1 node, then my coin count is reduced. this should have been tested more.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 01:45:59 AM
Block 2660+

Forwarding port 42786 on my router really helped to connect to peers!
Make sure you have port 42786 on your "realworld" (the one that shows on http:/wimi.com (http://http:/wimi.com)) IP forwarded on your router to your wallet machine IP.

To these that are asking what the ports are:

42786 -  this is the port where all wallets (mine, yours, john's and mary's and everybody else's) "talk" to each other

9656 - the port where your miner connects to mine. or you can connect and run commands to your miner from another PC from you LAN
For security reasons the latter should NOT be forwarded. Otherwise is like you are letting somebody else to sit on your computer with the wallet running.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 01:46:35 AM
My miner seems to be stuck on, 'Getting work package'

When I check my exp.log file, I see:

Quote
Cannot start mining without etherbase address: etherbase address must be explicitly specified
I0914 02:28:56.998071   11212 backend.go:483]

Any ideas?

./gexp account new


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 01:46:55 AM
I might be on a fork, can someone do debug.printBlock(2800);

My output starts with this:
"Block(#2800): Size: 513.00 B TD: 6419825011057 {\nMinerHash: 29b462a6576f074b94a2663e902a58330261b39e3862a9a0002aa4fe6315e4f2

Am I in the right spot? :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 01:46:58 AM


Thanks, didnt try that   ;D



block 2829


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Chevyvegass on September 14, 2015, 01:47:07 AM
Ok on block 510
 Is it normal


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:47:30 AM
I too must agree Expanse start nodes are a MESS!

keep going on wrong work and loosing nodes... it should be from start at least 8 nodes hard coded in europe, usa, asia, etc... now only ppl near main node will get most from the start

thats what sht did, I hard coded like 5 nodes from around the world, ill hardcode some more in the morning.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 01:47:35 AM
My miner seems to be stuck on, 'Getting work package'

When I check my exp.log file, I see:

Quote
Cannot start mining without etherbase address: etherbase address must be explicitly specified
I0914 02:28:56.998071   11212 backend.go:483]

Any ideas?
You probably don't have an account created with (windows):

Code:
gexp.exe account new


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 01:48:04 AM
I too must agree Expanse start nodes are a MESS!

keep going on wrong work and loosing nodes... it should be from start at least 8 nodes hard coded in europe, usa, asia, etc... now only ppl near main node will get most from the start

I went from 4 to null to 2 and now at 3, after putting those nodes in. I hope this helps out and not put me on the wrong chain....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 01:48:11 AM
Ok on block 510
 Is it normal

I0913 21:47:44.108493   16916 chain_manager.go:661] imported 1 block(s) (0 queued 0 ignored) including 0 txs in 2.008396ms. #2874 [79ce08c8 / 79ce08c8]


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
last 20min I am loosing all new mined, nodes are CRAP!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:48:44 AM
I swear those nodes in the OP keep making my blockchain sync fail. Every time I add them, the sync fails seconds after

me too
 then my balance changes, then i get null nodes.  then i get 1 node, then my coin count is reduced. this should have been tested more.

How do you think we should have tested it more?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:50:25 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

now I have 20 peers and less block -> null!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 01:50:47 AM
You guys have to make sure your ports are forwarded

net
{
  listening: true,
  peerCount: 25,
  version: "1",
  addPeer: function(),
  getListening: function(),
  getPeerCount: function(),
  getVersion: function()
}


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 01:50:52 AM
My miner seems to be stuck on, 'Getting work package'

When I check my exp.log file, I see:

Quote
Cannot start mining without etherbase address: etherbase address must be explicitly specified
I0914 02:28:56.998071   11212 backend.go:483]

Any ideas?

./gexp account new

Thank you for the reply, but where do I type that? I tried typing that line into the top window (as shown below, but nothing happens)

http://i.imgur.com/wTus37x.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:51:38 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 01:53:30 AM
My miner seems to be stuck on, 'Getting work package'

When I check my exp.log file, I see:

Quote
Cannot start mining without etherbase address: etherbase address must be explicitly specified
I0914 02:28:56.998071   11212 backend.go:483]

Any ideas?

./gexp account new

Thank you for the reply, but where do I type that? I tried typing that line into the top window (as shown below, but nothing happens)

http://i.imgur.com/wTus37x.jpg

dude, remove the ./ from the command


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:55:10 AM
dude, remove the ./ from the command

good eye man.. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 01:56:19 AM
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start

D: I'm sorry to hear that.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 01:57:25 AM
I might be on a fork, can someone do debug.printBlock(2800);

My output starts with this:
"Block(#2800): Size: 513.00 B TD: 6419825011057 {\nMinerHash: 29b462a6576f074b94a2663e902a58330261b39e3862a9a0002aa4fe6315e4f2

Am I in the right spot? :)

defaced I assume you're on the prime chain :P can you check this for me?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 01:57:37 AM
Code:
debug.printBlock(3000);

Block(#3000): Size: 1.03 kB TD: 7303265854897 {\nMinerHash: 69d3e8b2025acc809c8866794d8fb4ca3727de5650bca32b87a35b5320693ced...

anyone with the same hash?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 01:58:08 AM
dude, remove the ./ from the command

good eye man.. :)
Not only the ./
This is windows.

You have to open CMD in the wallet folder.
C:\expanse-walet-whatever\>
Then type
gexp.exe account new


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 01:58:46 AM
Code:
debug.printBlock(3000);

Block(#3000): Size: 1.03 kB TD: 7303265854897 {\nMinerHash: 69d3e8b2025acc809c8866794d8fb4ca3727de5650bca32b87a35b5320693ced...

anyone with the same hash?
"Block(#3000): Size: 1.03 kB TD: 7303265854897 {\nMinerHash: 69d3e8b2025acc809c8866794d8fb4ca3727de5650bca32b87a35b5320693ced

if we're forked we're in this together :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: TheGift73 on September 14, 2015, 01:58:56 AM
dude, remove the ./ from the command

good eye man.. :)

Removed the ./ but still no joy?

I read in the git for initial setup instructions, that I needed to run Setup_Step_1_new_account.bat but when ever I tried to run that it wouldn't let me type anything for a passphrase?

Quote
** Initial Setup **
*******************

- Double Click "Setup_Step_1_new_account.bat"
- When the cmd prompt opens, enter in a password, hit enter, retype password hit enter again
- Double Click "Setup_Step_2_genesis.bat"
- Double Click "Start_Expanse.bat"

TADA! You have successfully completed all the steps.

From now on anytime you want to start expanse just double click "start_expanse.bat"

http://i.imgur.com/Lg6IpWf.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 01:59:20 AM
Code:
debug.printBlock(3000);

Block(#3000): Size: 1.03 kB TD: 7303265854897 {\nMinerHash: 69d3e8b2025acc809c8866794d8fb4ca3727de5650bca32b87a35b5320693ced...

anyone with the same hash?

yes


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MakingBubbles on September 14, 2015, 01:59:57 AM
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start

D: I'm sorry to hear that.

idk i got past block 0 at least lol miner just crashes and gives me a hex code


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 02:00:43 AM
I might be on a fork, can someone do debug.printBlock(2800);

My output starts with this:
"Block(#2800): Size: 513.00 B TD: 6419825011057 {\nMinerHash: 29b462a6576f074b94a2663e902a58330261b39e3862a9a0002aa4fe6315e4f2

Am I in the right spot? :)

defaced I assume you're on the prime chain :P can you check this for me?

I got the same.
defaced?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kampretkabur on September 14, 2015, 02:00:51 AM
is it launched?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 14, 2015, 02:00:56 AM
Some More Potential peers

admin.addPeer("enode://261da6789b8720fc61a17c532022f9ac8d25c82680caeaf3f68f67e723deac190000847f276dfa9e4ac503b6d8c13bd77aae724b263479cafc8808ede0f1deb9@18.97.7.22:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://2444ddb2aa1c34d55f9b28a1e2b57f1d6c381250776574432381db6984996a2a05f560f0a751443d5a5df4c608a8dc6acc0bdb19bea5905edf643d2c9b44d159@85.217.235.15:63117")
admin.addPeer("enode://f3223bf8ea731e569a27318f00f4cc3696ec7d45005604f2731efc21f95028d230671dfc907f44cbed3f7fa0033e1111ffd8f9db1286b3721641d77afd500ade@54.72.197.108:46741")
admin.addPeer("enode://61b016b1e1c4d529c266270fd56620ed9bccf5bf4f1ba2cf5a00b1c9ef045066a5097a33bd7fcdabaa0e1af8aa58d6d6b03888143334f94a85267a48ef91e867@5.12.18.104:49317")
admin.addPeer("enode://15a6ddec7c2e7fc67686557975b41c6308525a69c8ce56747d6ae9c7e9dc8910a4624443ffc127001f72f8f8fca4a67d04906e72d725d7b39dbff4454b8b2b28@68.197.12.14:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://25b8304b5a7977e5478057e5f60f3a7f0da32702f0e5d0174c84ab2a9fb270fb37ef73aba2c682d4283d617e073fdc61e082d7f277474ea64fde055e17d86814@71.62.31.72:49568")
admin.addPeer("enode://222b558cc174e204312a3c2d44d00d1d70512d09f5624220ed4d53ebf881721e3f75f5abfc86e23daacc0b244c8cb81c644f3f60456733bbbe3d56303e678c6d@78.69.188.169:64887")
admin.addPeer("enode://f65bd9e9e1bb235fa5d3370f6f581a32b5d7a4ec69104ecf3b0b72261ec58f1e14b02ef4612076bd7358944ce1a5913e917bd5177b3b1825c92c1ce62e0c6b99@74.196.59.103:58308")
admin.addPeer("enode://192c2cdc2d022d7875428b520ac6693d3ec30137842e87a259e5f49581632972e771dba844dd7e6fc3f379a021fed726b98d5136def0f49e2fcdd421455f1599@91.76.107.143:51244")
admin.addPeer("enode://faaf9570e771b68946b94925f0ded6ed87540470474d815a0f58ea1f426cad8ad4a2f9609fe12cc174dc89a311c1725b28518098e71a998000727db8e7a9f3ea@108.56.186.215:55332")
admin.addPeer("enode://2ad2cd661b54315c9eac66c2021c57e3b0dbbc7028189276513a41e5f6b953b12d5d0356f18103fea6e73590419501fb007c84048ce49168d9b64f950aaeef2f@52.18.217.16:54159")
admin.addPeer("enode://aea9674bebbf9f7c75587857444602f746390414edbb51f3bb6c47d9d46eea4299ce7e7fee114ff5a808ab616885071d48ac0f7bfc5bc79ee9a25b51783c8a3e@84.79.205.80:58719")
admin.addPeer("enode://63f7d60b7747093671c0c59e9cf0d6188af4f7cc464ed945041fd3d3e82f053d7e0648225d9ab2e0a9fe6f0992972b298d7bd5723fc20cd4c26583788d9a2bab@50.67.167.108:52459")
admin.addPeer("enode://64674671a3ded38b3a009e6474e0777c89f3ea09973ce350e060e40ad8b056dde79e29843fc4bafb93d9bf8c7dcef67d6143062f25d2c57dd456d4cb979b5603@54.175.211.118:52987")
admin.addPeer("enode://9506c1d6a49768863ae2df75feb329a0c340c6bf7d89da3dc0459c13cf92d23eece708e52886f2dfa6fdd3d491c16cab2aa0ac58cfbf527ac15d9810fc244780@52.19.217.216:58781")
admin.addPeer("enode://7d602522230726e1d99351096cc197110f3a9913c95ed0bf140854ac3c1f181cb23c3964922f9c565d2cc2c2ef409e6cb0077e5f11a3671936f3f663c7dd39a7@54.72.197.243:41550")
admin.addPeer("enode://7841cd74d1a65a87501c6f3c35dbdceaf9775f51fdf373f0d7310fa59d11cbb3bd8c245cc0e87ee3648bb4910b0e1b955cc34671272569997dd616b4654efa7a@86.132.38.121:62288")
admin.addPeer("enode://96d3919b903e7f5ad59ac2f73c43be9172d9d27e2771355db03fd194732b795829a31fe2ea6de109d0804786c39a807e155f065b4b94c6fce167becd0ac02383@45.55.22.34:42786")
admin.addPeer("enode://78cea42c00e54d51a444991b1d88b2cb1b2829e2f9d7bbf23e8d29e87399de60833ce51415d48eb4d2fe8a7adacafd6bc0354a1edaa0cface7d7ae0e7325e354@37.48.74.42:55881")


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:01:03 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jasonhopper2412 on September 14, 2015, 02:01:21 AM
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start
Fuckin hilarious. I see you are trying to shift blame but what exactly for? Your own incompetents and lack of planning? Take that bs elsewhere.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoClub on September 14, 2015, 02:01:46 AM
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start

That video card should still work, although I would never suggest anyone to buy a video card for any launch.

At least you have a card now though, and can just join a pool later when it is easier.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 02:02:07 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:04:18 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:08:31 AM
Code:
debug.printBlock(3000);

Block(#3000): Size: 1.03 kB TD: 7303265854897 {\nMinerHash: 69d3e8b2025acc809c8866794d8fb4ca3727de5650bca32b87a35b5320693ced...

anyone with the same hash?

Im on the same. I hope its the right chain


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:08:45 AM
Hey defaced, any plans to put upnp in the wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:10:19 AM
Code:
debug.printBlock(3000);

Block(#3000): Size: 1.03 kB TD: 7303265854897 {\nMinerHash: 69d3e8b2025acc809c8866794d8fb4ca3727de5650bca32b87a35b5320693ced...

anyone with the same hash?

Im on the same. I hope its the right chain

Same here too....Hopefully we are on the right chain....Otherwise, this is testnet 2.0...lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 02:11:08 AM
Port forwarding did the job :D 11 nodes and counting


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 02:11:21 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...
Sorry, I didn't get the fact you are pointing it out. I guess it's not required, but it is highly recommended. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 02:11:46 AM
Back to SHIFT, didn't have NEARLY the problems with that as I've had trying to stay connected to this network...

Good luck, hopefully you can figure it out when you finally admit there's a problem that both ETH and SHIFT didn't have.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:12:41 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...
Sorry, I didn't get the fact you are pointing it out. I guess it's not required, but it is highly recommended. :)

All good...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:12:53 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

everyones routers are different and they will have to google that on their own


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: techbytes on September 14, 2015, 02:13:11 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...

Maybe you should put that in your signature so we all know you are stating the facts...


-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: MakingBubbles on September 14, 2015, 02:14:43 AM
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start

That video card should still work, although I would never suggest anyone to buy a video card for any launch.

At least you have a card now though, and can just join a pool later when it is easier.

yea it'll be all right
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start
Fuckin hilarious. I see you are trying to shift blame but what exactly for? Your own incompetents and lack of planning? Take that bs elsewhere

dude i keep getting a hex so fuck u  i can mine drk with my setup s0o E_A_D  it worked on testnet but now the program failed to start and i get a hex normally means something is misconfigured and since NOONE has experience running this shit noone can help its a fucking curveball so i guess i will start by examining the drivers because that is what it looks like  yea im disapointed  so let me fuciking cry and i hope u are on a fork and go to 0 u cockmonkey


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: litecoin111 on September 14, 2015, 02:15:21 AM
How to tell if you have peers on windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:15:51 AM
How to tell if you have peers on windows?

admin.peers


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kadrek on September 14, 2015, 02:16:51 AM
Did this launch already...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 02:16:59 AM
Deface - please confirm block 2800. It looks like we are mainly mining on one chain.

I have this showing in gexp:
Code:
...
I0913 22:06:47.519842    4104 worker.go:322] ??  Mined block (#3337 / 3476c68d). Wait 5 blocks for confirmation
I0913 22:06:47.522846    4104 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 3338 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 2.0022ms
I0913 22:06:47.524848    4104 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 3338 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 1.0009ms
I0913 22:06:47.989654    4104 worker.go:322] ??  Mined stale block (#3337 / 9f151a33).
I0913 22:06:47.990655    4104 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 3338 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 1.0013ms
I0913 22:06:48.020451    4104 remote_agent.go:132] Work was submitted for f24269650ea34e96dc835914465b2f33d9e5dfd1827849679348cd7bccce1b3f but no pending work found
...

So does stale block mean I got an uncle?
Also what does "but no pending work found" mean?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: litecoin111 on September 14, 2015, 02:17:09 AM
got null, how to add peers on windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:18:01 AM
got null, how to add peers on windows?

the same place you just did admin.peers

add some of the nodes from the OP


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:18:39 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

everyones routers are different and they will have to google that on their own

True. But some people might be paranoid to forward ports...lol

On the serious side, people probably don't know which port numbers to forward, you might want to point that out. Just a suggestion.

How's the progress on the block explorer?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:18:51 AM
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start

That video card should still work, although I would never suggest anyone to buy a video card for any launch.

At least you have a card now though, and can just join a pool later when it is easier.

yea it'll be all right
Dammit Franko , James  I am out I wasted 2 hrs and  100 bucks on this. ( I went out and bought a video card). sucks I been looking forward to this and it Sux.  Miner won't start
Fuckin hilarious. I see you are trying to shift blame but what exactly for? Your own incompetents and lack of planning? Take that bs elsewhere

dude i keep getting a hex so fuck u  i can mine drk with my setup s0o E_A_D  it worked on testnet but now the program failed to start and i get a hex normally means something is misconfigured and since NOONE has experience running this shit noone can help its a fucking curveball so i guess i will start by examining the drivers because that is what it looks like  yea im disapointed  so let me fuciking cry and i hope u are on a fork and go to 0 u cockmonkey


MickGhee is having problems :P sucker!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 02:19:17 AM
got null, how to add peers on windows?

the same place you just did admin.peers

add some of the nodes from the OP

And it really helps to have your port 42786 open to the world... (forward it if you have a router)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Scrappy Do on September 14, 2015, 02:19:42 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...

Maybe you should put that in your signature so we all know you are stating the facts...


-tb-

 Damn Tech.. take it easy on kid.. he got a CCNA, he knows better right?


 Oh yea, I got that too, and 6 other certs. I didn't know we were slinging certs!

Scrapp'


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:20:48 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...

Maybe you should put that in your signature so we all know you are stating the facts...


-tb-

 Damn Tech.. take it easy on kid.. he got a CCNA, he knows better right?


 Oh yea, I got that too, and 6 other certs. I didn't know we were slinging certs!

Scrapp'

I got my CCNA too.. all the answers were on google.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
what was the block time supposed to be?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: litecoin111 on September 14, 2015, 02:21:18 AM
got null, how to add peers on windows?

the same place you just did admin.peers

add some of the nodes from the OP

Ok so if I had null prior to adding peers and I added nodes now, are the coins I have worthless? I still show around the same balance?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: xtrembash on September 14, 2015, 02:21:53 AM
wich block atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:22:16 AM
Anyone having problems should search on google or ask on the ethereum board. This is the exact same thing as ethereum. different ports and data directory.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:23:09 AM
wich bloc atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

i get this
>debug.printBlock(3687);
Block(#3687): Size: 515.00 B TD: 11087602426811


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 02:23:39 AM
Such a sad day for the Franko team supporters.

This was one of this least successful launches in recent history, congrats guys.  

Premine + failed launch = doomed

Try again.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 02:24:22 AM
wich block atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

exp.blockNumber


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:24:28 AM
looks like I had to forward TCP and UDP ports! ond not only UDP to get more nodes!

yup, I could of swore I said that before. Glad you figured it out, now that you have TCP and UDP open, anyone connecting to you will be able to gossip with your node to get more.

It's not specified on the OP and how to do it.

Google "how to forward a port on my router" (without the quotes)

Um, I have a CCNA cert...I know how to program Cisco routers/switch(layer 2 and layer 3), WAN, LAN, VPN, etc..Cisco is in 70~80% of the internet's infrastructure....I'm just stating the facts...

Maybe you should put that in your signature so we all know you are stating the facts...


-tb-

 Damn Tech.. take it easy on kid.. he got a CCNA, he knows better right?


 Oh yea, I got that too, and 6 other certs. I didn't know we were slinging certs!

Scrapp'

Sure, I need to be a drone and put a damn sig to be a hipster here....lol

I'm not trying to flaunt or show off my certs, but it seems he assume I didn't know how to forward ports, especially on a home router. Not as hard as putting a dlci command for a frame relay and stuff like that..lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:24:52 AM
Such a sad day for the Franko team supporters.

This was one of this least successful launches in recent history, congrats guys.  

Premine + failed launch = doomed

Try again.

lol ok ill restart the chain and we can try again tomorrow :trollface:


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:25:10 AM
Such a sad day for the Franko team supporters.

This was one of this least successful launches in recent history, congrats guys.  

Premine + failed launch = doomed

Try again.

It was alright. They claimed for a simple mining experience but didn't do much better than ethereum.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 02:25:32 AM
Such a sad day for the Franko team supporters.

This was one of this least successful launches in recent history, congrats guys.  

Premine + failed launch = doomed

Try again.

lol ok ill restart the chain and we can try again tomorrow :trollface:

tomorrow will be too early.  you need to figure out what you're doing first.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:26:14 AM
Such a sad day for the Franko team supporters.

This was one of this least successful launches in recent history, congrats guys.  

Premine + failed launch = doomed

Try again.

lol ok ill restart the chain and we can try again tomorrow :trollface:

tomorrow will be too early.  you need to figure out what you're doing first.

If only all I had to do was post fud all day on a forum from sock puppet accounts <3


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:27:02 AM
wich bloc atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

i get this
>debug.printBlock(3687);
Block(#3687): Size: 515.00 B TD: 11087602426811

can someone confirm this is the working fork?

We really need a block explorer...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 02:28:02 AM
Anyone having problems should search on google or ask on the ethereum board. This is the exact same thing as ethereum. different ports and data directory.

Except there was not this mass issue of non working gexp for half the people with Ethereum or Shift at launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: litecoin111 on September 14, 2015, 02:28:09 AM
got null, how to add peers on windows?

the same place you just did admin.peers

add some of the nodes from the OP

Ok so if I had null prior to adding peers and I added nodes now, are the coins I have worthless? I still show around the same balance?

Anybody know how to check testnet coins vs real?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 02:28:43 AM
wich bloc atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

i get this
>debug.printBlock(3687);
Block(#3687): Size: 515.00 B TD: 11087602426811

can someone confirm this is the working fork?

We really need a block explorer...

Confirmed.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:28:47 AM
Anyone having problems should search on google or ask on the ethereum board. This is the exact same thing as ethereum. different ports and data directory.

Except there was not this mass issue of non working gexp for half the people with Ethereum or Shift at launch.

I mined ethereum. There was all kinds of problems. It took me over 24 hours to get ethereum to mine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 02:28:55 AM
wich bloc atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

i get this
>debug.printBlock(3687);
Block(#3687): Size: 515.00 B TD: 11087602426811

can someone confirm this is the working fork?

We really need a block explorer...

It is...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 02:29:49 AM
wich bloc atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

i get this
>debug.printBlock(3687);
Block(#3687): Size: 515.00 B TD: 11087602426811

can someone confirm this is the working fork?

We really need a block explorer...

yup, same info here :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:30:13 AM
When will there be a block explorer?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: jjjordan on September 14, 2015, 02:31:27 AM
Deface - please confirm block 2800. It looks like we are mainly mining on one chain.

I have this showing in gexp:
Code:
...
I0913 22:06:47.519842    4104 worker.go:322] ??  Mined block (#3337 / 3476c68d). Wait 5 blocks for confirmation
I0913 22:06:47.522846    4104 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 3338 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 2.0022ms
I0913 22:06:47.524848    4104 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 3338 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 1.0009ms
I0913 22:06:47.989654    4104 worker.go:322] ??  Mined stale block (#3337 / 9f151a33).
I0913 22:06:47.990655    4104 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 3338 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 1.0013ms
I0913 22:06:48.020451    4104 remote_agent.go:132] Work was submitted for f24269650ea34e96dc835914465b2f33d9e5dfd1827849679348cd7bccce1b3f but no pending work found
...

So does stale block mean I got an uncle?
Also what does "but no pending work found" mean?

Got an answer on the first question:
You might also see geth say “Mined stale block #xxxxx”. Unlike other coins you could mine, stale blocks are actually worth something, so if you see stales that just means someone found the block before you did (but you still contributed). You’ll still receive a partial block reward in this case.
Source (not sure if it's reliable) https://medium.com/@timothyjcoulter/mining-ethereum-on-windows-55f3f4f2217c (https://medium.com/@timothyjcoulter/mining-ethereum-on-windows-55f3f4f2217c)


Still the second question remains: What is Work was submitted for xxxx...xxxxxx but no pending work found


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:31:37 AM
Anyone having problems should search on google or ask on the ethereum board. This is the exact same thing as ethereum. different ports and data directory.

Except there was not this mass issue of non working gexp for half the people with Ethereum or Shift at launch.

What if, because eth, sht, and exp are all using the same p2p network to try and find peers everything is going haywire. With bitcoin there are the magicbytes that help keep nodes from speaking.

Shot in the dark.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 14, 2015, 02:32:53 AM
wich block atm ?
i dont know if i m on the right fork..

I have 3913


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 02:32:56 AM
Anyone having problems should search on google or ask on the ethereum board. This is the exact same thing as ethereum. different ports and data directory.

Except there was not this mass issue of non working gexp for half the people with Ethereum or Shift at launch.

I mined ethereum. There was all kinds of problems. It took me over 24 hours to get ethereum to mine.

Hmm. Sorry. I was up and running after reading up. No issues at all with connections or mining.

Well the 750ti issue but that is it.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 14, 2015, 02:33:59 AM
This network is still fucked just like it was in beta.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: randywald on September 14, 2015, 02:35:18 AM
This network is still fucked just like it was in beta.

What? It works perfectly for me.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:35:29 AM
Anyone having problems should search on google or ask on the ethereum board. This is the exact same thing as ethereum. different ports and data directory.

Except there was not this mass issue of non working gexp for half the people with Ethereum or Shift at launch.

I mined ethereum. There was all kinds of problems. It took me over 24 hours to get ethereum to mine.

ETH did have a kind of testnet/live network during the olympic period where it would give 1/10th of the full block until Frontier was released. Plus they also had a regular testnet too....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:36:03 AM
I did nothing with my router. I just type "make" on ubuntu 14.04. Then I use the same ethminer that came with ethereum. If you know how to mine ethereum its the same with a different port #. I never lost coins. I was always on the correct chain.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: abstractednerve on September 14, 2015, 02:37:28 AM
This network is still fucked just like it was in beta.

Why are you still bumping the thread then m8? "I hate this coin and the dev so i'm going to bump the thread over 9000 times!" Go back to shit if its so bad here. The network works fine for me maybe you are just to stupid to get it to work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:37:42 AM
VERY IMPORTANT! Write down your password! You don;t want to get locked out of your coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nesic1 on September 14, 2015, 02:37:53 AM
4010 block number


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Hix on September 14, 2015, 02:37:58 AM
Why so much uncle blocks mined?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 02:38:06 AM
http://i.imgur.com/LnVJVF4.png

over 2 hours mining, a lot of issues but i guess i'm in the right chain (Hopefully :D )
120MH/s here.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:38:15 AM
I did nothing with my router. I just type "make" on ubuntu 14.04. Then I use the same ethminer that came with ethereum. If you know how to mine ethereum its the same with a different port #. I never lost coins. I was always on the correct chain.

Open port 47286 and didn't get any more peers, just the 3 peers for the past hour. I mined both ETH and SHF ok from the start. This one is ok, just the issue with getting more peers.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Scrappy Do on September 14, 2015, 02:38:35 AM
I did nothing with my router. I just type "make" on ubuntu 14.04. Then I use the same ethminer that came with ethereum. If you know how to mine ethereum its the same with a different port #. I never lost coins. I was always on the correct chain.

 Sense you do not make.

 For in the beginning of ANY coin as long as I have mined, Orphans happen.

Scrapp'


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 02:38:49 AM
VERY IMPORTANT! Write down your password! You don;t want to get locked out of your coins.

Solid advice.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
VERY IMPORTANT! Write down your password! You don;t want to get locked out of your coins.

Solid advice.

Save it in 3 locations at least, different from the mining machine, one off site (ie. safe box, a trust friend/relative's house, etc...) at least.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 02:43:53 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+set+up+port+forwarding


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 02:45:13 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+set+up+port+forwarding

learn to spell you troll. "setup"


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+set+up+port+forwarding

learn to spell you troll. "setup"

Setup is one word when it is a noun (e.g., “it was a setup!”) or an adjective (e.g., “follow the setup instructions”). It is two words—set up—when it functions as a verb (e.g., “I’m going to set up the computer”).

Good try.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 14, 2015, 02:48:26 AM



I can't connect to the suprnova pool



It will be available in 6-8 hours...

BTW Smoothest launch ever


That sucks




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 02:51:31 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+set+up+port+forwarding

learn to spell you troll. "setup"

Setup is one word when it is a noun (e.g., “it was a setup!”) or an adjective (e.g., “follow the setup instructions”). It is two words—set up—when it functions as a verb (e.g., “I’m going to set up the computer”).

Good try.

The issue is, some routers don't have NAT redirection and/or it isn't working properly or the manufacture doesn't chose to fix it with a new firmware. I just found out my router has that issue of it not working properly: Linksys EA6300. That's kind of suck, but at least I'm connected to 3 peers for the past 2 hours...But upnp works fine on it...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 14, 2015, 03:14:43 AM
Here are some guide to help people having problems with port forwarding: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/

Make sure uPNP is also enabled.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 14, 2015, 03:18:41 AM
If you are having problems, please try increasing the verbosity -verbosity=4 or 5 (up to 10) and see if it provides additional information.  
Please check the exp.log in the exp directory.

If you see an issue but don't understand it, please paste in on a pastebin (www.pastebin.com) and link it in your post and we will take a look. Please do not post them directly to the thread.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: kohonez on September 14, 2015, 03:28:12 AM
what's the command to send exp from my wallet to another address?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 03:33:52 AM
Hmm google is your friend > http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

Forward UDP and TCP

Really people....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 03:38:29 AM
Hmm google is your friend > http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

Forward UDP and TCP

Really people....

Some people have hardware issues that the manufacture don't fix in an firmware update. Keep that in mind, not everyone's hardware works perfect and not the fault of the end user all the time.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: yudhistira on September 14, 2015, 03:39:36 AM
40 pages and still busy with testnet ??

 ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 03:40:52 AM
40 pages and still busy with testnet ??

 ??? ??? ???

It's been the live network for about 3 hours and 40 minutes...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Cobra on September 14, 2015, 03:42:13 AM
From the testing I have done the lack of peers seems related to Windows 10. I can't get connected to more than 2 peers even with adding many manually.
I have noticed similar behavior with other coins on this OS as well with lack of peers and have not found a solution. (even with firewall disabled on machine)

When I do the same thing on Win 8.1 I have no problems getting peers with the same config, TCP and UDP port 47286 forwarded.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 03:45:08 AM
From the testing I have done the lack of peers seems related to Windows 10. I can't get connected to more than 2 peers even with adding many manually.
I have noticed similar behavior with other coins on this OS as well with lack of peers and have not found a solution. (even with firewall disabled on machine)

When I do the same thing on Win 8.1 I have no problems getting peers with the same config, TCP and UDP port 47286 forwarded.


I run Windows 10 on all my machines, except one that runs Ubuntu Linux. Seems, like an issue with Windows 10.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Chevyvegass on September 14, 2015, 03:47:12 AM
this is my node
205d91ae71b4e8f5218317889a068707ea6e01a33e6d39753775fe0f9d755a2b7e841e5466b19bd cda17132a98ad86d169b202a5db8bd408d20cb142bb9ac12b


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Cobra on September 14, 2015, 03:47:37 AM
From the testing I have done the lack of peers seems related to Windows 10. I can't get connected to more than 2 peers even with adding many manually.
I have noticed similar behavior with other coins on this OS as well with lack of peers and have not found a solution. (even with firewall disabled on machine)

When I do the same thing on Win 8.1 I have no problems getting peers with the same config, TCP and UDP port 47286 forwarded.


I run Windows 10 on all my machines, except one that runs Ubuntu Linux. Seems, like an issue with Windows 10.

I have 4 peers now on Win10. I don't think the node discovery works as well on this OS and the manual additions do not have an immediate impact like on 8.1.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Sir_Astral on September 14, 2015, 03:49:17 AM
What price should be per 1 EXP?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 03:49:57 AM
From the testing I have done the lack of peers seems related to Windows 10. I can't get connected to more than 2 peers even with adding many manually.
I have noticed similar behavior with other coins on this OS as well with lack of peers and have not found a solution. (even with firewall disabled on machine)

When I do the same thing on Win 8.1 I have no problems getting peers with the same config, TCP and UDP port 47286 forwarded.


I run Windows 10 on all my machines, except one that runs Ubuntu Linux. Seems, like an issue with Windows 10.

I have 4 peers now on Win10. I don't think the node discovery works as well on this OS and the manual additions do not have an immediate impact like on 8.1.

I've been going back and forth between 3 to 4 peers, after the nodes are added. Could be something with the default network configurations of Windows 10.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamdc on September 14, 2015, 03:52:12 AM
I only can connect to 1 node with IP : 188.2.33.179. This is right or wrong chain?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 03:55:41 AM
I only can connect to 1 node with IP : 188.2.33.179. This is right or wrong chain?

right  ;D

block 5439


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: OzDigger on September 14, 2015, 03:58:56 AM
WARNING...... WALLETS loose coins......

just lost 800 coins ( a couple hours mining)  ??? not happy..

same crap as with shiftcoin, the wallets loose the coins..... or back door access.....

URGENT UPDATE........ required guys and yes I am using the V3 version.....

cheers


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Cobra on September 14, 2015, 04:00:36 AM
From the testing I have done the lack of peers seems related to Windows 10. I can't get connected to more than 2 peers even with adding many manually.
I have noticed similar behavior with other coins on this OS as well with lack of peers and have not found a solution. (even with firewall disabled on machine)

When I do the same thing on Win 8.1 I have no problems getting peers with the same config, TCP and UDP port 47286 forwarded.


I run Windows 10 on all my machines, except one that runs Ubuntu Linux. Seems, like an issue with Windows 10.

I have 4 peers now on Win10. I don't think the node discovery works as well on this OS and the manual additions do not have an immediate impact like on 8.1.

I've been going back and forth between 3 to 4 peers, after the nodes are added. Could be something with the default network configurations of Windows 10.

Just out of curiosity......are these the nodes you seem to be connected to? I wonder if only Win10 machines are connecting to each other.
18.97.7.22:42786
54.72.37.197:40308
74.196.59.103:42786
68.197.12.14:42786





Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 04:01:41 AM
WARNING...... WALLETS loose coins......

just lost 800 coins ( a couple hours mining)  ??? not happy..

same crap as with shiftcoin, the wallets loose the coins..... or back door access.....

URGENT UPDATE........ required guys and yes I am using the V3 version.....

cheers

You prolly was on wrong chain and mined alone.... check block number, also check numbers  peers and port forward

shift coin had ZERO problems!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: vindyne8 on September 14, 2015, 04:02:02 AM
Hmm google is your friend > http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

Forward UDP and TCP

Really people....

Still peer issues.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 04:02:36 AM
Fork check:

"Block(#5500): Size: 515.00 B TD: 29988735007845 {\nMinerHash: 6226291973fb57316f73d30de6bfea74566e0ed3a92d3860837a0ae1c32c30ba

use the command debug.printBlock(5500); to see if you have the same result


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 04:04:16 AM
Fork check:

"Block(#5500): Size: 515.00 B TD: 29988735007845 {\nMinerHash: 6226291973fb57316f73d30de6bfea74566e0ed3a92d3860837a0ae1c32c30ba

use the command debug.printBlock(5500); to see if you have the same result

Yeah fine


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: defaced on September 14, 2015, 04:04:54 AM
WARNING...... WALLETS loose coins......

just lost 800 coins ( a couple hours mining)  ??? not happy..

same crap as with shiftcoin, the wallets loose the coins..... or back door access.....

URGENT UPDATE........ required guys and yes I am using the V3 version.....

cheers

orrrrr your chain got orphaned.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: reb0rn21 on September 14, 2015, 04:08:12 AM
@defaced

You should know ethereum have problem with missing transactions (TX don`t show on blockchain), you should check shift github and work together for solution (they have some just now updated)... will be better for both forks...

ethereum dev I don`t like, they do not communicate with ppl nor care


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 04:09:41 AM
Fork check:

"Block(#5500): Size: 515.00 B TD: 29988735007845 {\nMinerHash: 6226291973fb57316f73d30de6bfea74566e0ed3a92d3860837a0ae1c32c30ba

use the command debug.printBlock(5500); to see if you have the same result

Yeah fine

Have the same result, even with just 3~4 peers connected only..


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 04:12:11 AM
If people are having issues with the windows version you can always set up a Digitalocean VPS with Ubuntu 14.04 and run EXP on it and mine to it ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 14, 2015, 04:22:45 AM
If people are having issues with the windows version you can always set up a Digitalocean VPS with Ubuntu 14.04 and run EXP on it and mine to it ;)

Or they could fix the fucking windows version. Fair launch for linux users shit for the rest.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 04:43:01 AM
If people are having issues with the windows version you can always set up a Digitalocean VPS with Ubuntu 14.04 and run EXP on it and mine to it ;)

Or they could fix the fucking windows version. Fair launch for linux users shit for the rest.

Most of these cryptos are developed under Linux environment. Also, it's cheaper to use Linux and most of the time easier to debug. Windows is a whole different thing to debug with and takes more time, but can be made to work well if the programmer is skilled enough.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CowboyKiller on September 14, 2015, 04:50:27 AM

Most of these cryptos are developed under Linux environment. Also, it's cheaper to use Linux and more of the time easier to debug. Windows is a whole different thing to debug with and takes more time, but can be made to work well if the programmer is skilled enough.

this team is taking a whole lot more premine than the other eth coins youd think they could deliver a working network but nope. shift and soil windows networks work great.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: OzDigger on September 14, 2015, 04:52:22 AM


You prolly was on wrong chain and mined alone.... check block number, also check numbers  peers and port forward

shift coin had ZERO problems!
[/quote]

Shift coin wallet does have issues !   if you have your server ( solo mining) connected directly to your modem you will loose coins !!   big time!  I had to move it behind another router and yes the shift team knows about it.



As for Expanse I only started mining it a couple hours ago etc, will check the tips above ( thanks guys), gets frustrating as power costs are killing me and when you loose your days mining .....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 05:03:54 AM


You prolly was on wrong chain and mined alone.... check block number, also check numbers  peers and port forward

shift coin had ZERO problems!

Shift coin wallet does have issues !   if you have your server ( solo mining) connected directly to your modem you will loose coins !!   big time!  I had to move it behind another router and yes the shift team knows about it.



As for Expanse I only started mining it a couple hours ago etc, will check the tips above ( thanks guys), gets frustrating as power costs are killing me and when you loose your days mining .....
[/quote]

Feel you about the power costs. I live in California, one of the worst price per kwh in the US and most parts of Calfornia have tier pricing. If electricity was 10 cent or less, it wouldn't be too bad. Even a computer at idle waste about 100~250 watts, depending on setup.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nhutphan on September 14, 2015, 05:11:17 AM
25 peers now on Ubuntu

Block 64xx

I had too much problem when I switched to Ubuntu from Windows to mine Ethereum with GTX750ti. Now, I feel very smooth with this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Shame_Game on September 14, 2015, 05:23:11 AM
Windows with no peers yes have done port forwarding and added nodes manually it dont work. If anyone has fix for windows no peers problem please share  and spare me the lolz get linux suggestions thx.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 05:35:43 AM
Windows with no peers yes have done port forwarding and added nodes manually it dont work. If anyone has fix for windows no peers problem please share  and spare me the lolz get linux suggestions thx.
Same here. Lost all nodes during night, I was getting 25 nodes, now null. Have to restart wallet, now 4 nodes. Honestly this is pre alpha coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: truerue on September 14, 2015, 05:36:06 AM
0 peers on windows


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 05:39:41 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: OzDigger on September 14, 2015, 05:46:51 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

for your client ( shift) what is in the bat file?     --rpc  etc etc etc



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 05:48:03 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

Make sure you use --rpc eg: gexp.exe --port "42786" --rpc --rpcaddr "192.168.1.x" --rpcport 9656 --rpccorsdomain "*" console


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BitcoinForumator on September 14, 2015, 05:48:53 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

exp.blockNumber = 33

Balance = 264 (which is good if I was the only one  :))


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 05:50:26 AM
> exp.blockNumber
6895


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 05:52:54 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 05:59:13 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P

Ok  :) But what could also be an issue if you add about 20 nodes and still get null?

You can try to port forwarding on your router/gateway, but it didn't work for me. Might have to install Linux on my mining rig. I'm getting 3 to 4 peers and still seem to be on the right chain on Windows 10. I guess as long as I'm on the right chain, I shouldn't complain....lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NextGenCrypto on September 14, 2015, 05:59:33 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

exp.blockNumber = 33

Balance = 264 (which is good if I was the only one  :))


Look back a page and you will find the answer to your problem.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 06:02:29 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

exp.blockNumber = 33

Balance = 264 (which is good if I was the only one  :))


Look back a page and you will find the answer to your problem.
I already said that I forwarded port 42786..., it does not help in a long term(few hours)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: truerue on September 14, 2015, 06:06:08 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

exp.blockNumber = 33

Balance = 264 (which is good if I was the only one  :))


Look back a page and you will find the answer to your problem.
I already said that I forwarded port 42786...

same problem, 0 peers, port forwarded, nodes added, genesis block generated, haven't got any problems with ethereum and shift

EDIT: got 1 node now, mining, chain at 7110 block now


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: BChydro on September 14, 2015, 06:17:46 AM
Why was a block time of 1 min chosen?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 06:56:31 AM
What price should be per 1 EXP?

can't tell yet. mining is amazing. people will dump for cheap. If I had to guess I would say 1/8 of what SHF is going for. so like... 2k satoshi max on bittrex. I wouldn't sell my EXP for this cheap. I would wait a month and see what happens. If difficulty increases a bunch and the block time becomes 1 minute the price should go up to 10k or more.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: hankman on September 14, 2015, 06:58:26 AM
What price should be per 1 EXP?

can't tell yet. mining is amazing. people will dump for cheap. If I had to guess I would say 1/8 of what SHF is going for. so like... 2k satoshi max on bittrex. I wouldn't sell my EXP for this cheap. I would wait a month and see what happens. If difficulty increases a bunch and the block time becomes 1 minute the price should go up to 10k or more.

If the price is 2k on bittrex I will buy a bunch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 07:04:12 AM
I'll pass for now with the pool - too much trouble/problems - even I have big problems getting connected and everything seems quite "hacked"..

I'll add it once everything is settled and working.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 14, 2015, 07:09:22 AM
Were those issues present on testnet?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 07:12:30 AM
Were those issues present on testnet?

On main net  >:( but every coin which had problems during launch was pumped hard, so I expect moon in a few months  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: 8-bit-Party on September 14, 2015, 07:14:52 AM
Were those issues present on testnet?

On main net  >:( but every coin which had problems during launch was pumped hard, so I expect moon in a few months  ;)
Yes, I see them on mainnet that's why I ask what about testnet.
Anyway launch without bunch of reliable nodes and block explorer was not a good idea.



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 14, 2015, 07:17:21 AM



It might have been code for "solo mining is too amazing to let more people in with easy pool mining" :P LOL jk. These coins are brand new and have lots of problems with them. It's very difficult stuff.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 14, 2015, 07:18:55 AM
What price should be per 1 EXP?

can't tell yet. mining is amazing. people will dump for cheap. If I had to guess I would say 1/8 of what SHF is going for. so like... 2k satoshi max on bittrex. I wouldn't sell my EXP for this cheap. I would wait a month and see what happens. If difficulty increases a bunch and the block time becomes 1 minute the price should go up to 10k or more.

If the price is 2k on bittrex I will buy a bunch.


I would definitely pay 2k but hey if people want to sell for lower I will let them.

There will probably be a big sell off since all of these coins are so cheap to mine. I won;t sell mine either. Too dumb. Easy come shouldn't mean easy sell.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 07:23:33 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

Make sure you use --rpc eg: gexp.exe --port "42786" --rpc --rpcaddr "192.168.1.x" --rpcport 9656 --rpccorsdomain "*" console

Thank you, the --rpcaddr switch seemed to get it to connect, however it doesn't seem to get work from the gexp client and just sits there saying [timestamp] gpuminer0 workLoop 1 #00000000... #00000000

Currently googling and searching for an answer, but one here would be appreciated :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: fartbags on September 14, 2015, 07:27:21 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

Make sure you use --rpc eg: gexp.exe --port "42786" --rpc --rpcaddr "192.168.1.x" --rpcport 9656 --rpccorsdomain "*" console

Thank you, the --rpcaddr switch seemed to get it to connect, however it doesn't seem to get work from the gexp client and just sits there saying [timestamp] gpuminer0 workLoop 1 #00000000... #00000000

Currently googling and searching for an answer, but one here would be appreciated :)


I had that happen with Ethereum. I reinstalled everything and it fixed it.




Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

Make sure you use --rpc eg: gexp.exe --port "42786" --rpc --rpcaddr "192.168.1.x" --rpcport 9656 --rpccorsdomain "*" console

Thank you, the --rpcaddr switch seemed to get it to connect, however it doesn't seem to get work from the gexp client and just sits there saying [timestamp] gpuminer0 workLoop 1 #00000000... #00000000

Currently googling and searching for an answer, but one here would be appreciated :)

You probably have no peers connected, or have not made a mining address. looks like no peers to me no blockchain downloaded it cant give work if it has no blocks to mine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamdc on September 14, 2015, 07:53:19 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

Make sure you use --rpc eg: gexp.exe --port "42786" --rpc --rpcaddr "192.168.1.x" --rpcport 9656 --rpccorsdomain "*" console

Thank you, the --rpcaddr switch seemed to get it to connect, however it doesn't seem to get work from the gexp client and just sits there saying [timestamp] gpuminer0 workLoop 1 #00000000... #00000000

Currently googling and searching for an answer, but one here would be appreciated :)

The same with me but I can found block
It's OK, keep mining :)

More information : https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2574/seedhash-is-always-0


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 07:55:22 AM
you should see something like this

Code:
I0914 03:54:42.127388   16916 worker.go:540] commit new work on block 7994 with 0 txs & 0 uncles. Took 341.365µs
I0914 03:54:42.543620   16916 chain_manager.go:661] imported 0 block(s) (1 queued 0 ignored) including 0 txs in 4.01798ms. #7994 [4dbc09a9 / 4dbc09a9]


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nhutphan on September 14, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
Anyone know the trick to mining from a computer to an EXP client running on another computer? I'm doing "ethminer -F http://192.168.1.x:9656 -G" and its giving me a "libcurl error 7: Could not connect to http://192..."

Make sure you use --rpc eg: gexp.exe --port "42786" --rpc --rpcaddr "192.168.1.x" --rpcport 9656 --rpccorsdomain "*" console

Thank you, the --rpcaddr switch seemed to get it to connect, however it doesn't seem to get work from the gexp client and just sits there saying [timestamp] gpuminer0 workLoop 1 #00000000... #00000000

Currently googling and searching for an answer, but one here would be appreciated :)

Are you running Ethminer on Windows 7 or 8.1 or Ubuntu?

In my exp:

Win 7: run WELL with Radeon cards and just OK with Nvidia cards (1 card is normal, more than 2 will slow down)

Win 8.1: run OK with Radeon cards but start up very long. Like Win 7, 1 card is OK, more than 2 will not run or run very slow.

Ubuntu: run very SMOOTH and STABLE with both Radeon and Nvidia cards. Plus, could be overclocked.

If you like to run Ethminer on Ubuntu, you can take a look at https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/p16

You can see a setup instruction and some command lines to help you fix many problem.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 08:07:58 AM
Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Both machines are running on Ubuntu, and the machine hosting gexp is mining as well. On the host machine I have ethminer 0.9.38 installed which seems to work fine, only it does not report hashrate to the go client. This allows me to use miner.hashrate in gexp however to see that the other machine is reporting some hashrate to it:

> miner.hashrate
3744483963011968000

However I can't be sure if the latest ethminer (--version reports 0.9.92) I got using apt-get is actually mining or not because its not giving proper output in the console. Plus I want to see the damn average hashrate for tweaking. I've tried to figure out how to get an older version of ethminer that correctly reports hashrate and new work but I can't come up with what versioning they use for the PPA to do "sudo apt-get install ethminer=(old version)"  Anyone know how to do that or build an old version from github?

This is more frustrating than I thought it'd be. For now I am going to use a second gexp client running on the second machine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 08:20:12 AM
OK I finally got the pool synched after deleting everything from tesnet and doing a full reinstall.

Pool is now open and active:

https://exp.suprnova.cc



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: nhutphan on September 14, 2015, 08:20:28 AM
Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Both machines are running on Ubuntu, and the machine hosting gexp is mining as well. On the host machine I have ethminer 0.9.38 installed which seems to work fine, only it does not report hashrate to the go client. This allows me to use miner.hashrate in gexp however to see that the other machine is reporting some hashrate to it:

> miner.hashrate
3744483963011968000

However I can't be sure if the latest ethminer (--version reports 0.9.92) I got using apt-get is actually mining or not because its not giving proper output in the console. Plus I want to see the damn average hashrate for tweaking. I've tried to figure out how to get an older version of ethminer that correctly reports hashrate and new work but I can't come up with what versioning they use for the PPA to do "sudo apt-get install ethminer=(old version)"  Anyone know how to do that or build an old version from github?

This is more frustrating than I thought it'd be. For now I am going to use a second gexp client running on the second machine.

Just use miner.hashrate command when you mine directly on geth. It doesn't work with Ethminer. If you use Radeon, you can just install Ethminer from PPA. If you use Nvidia, you should build your own Ethminer to fit your cards.

Go to https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/p16, find Phantom's post. You will see a instruction to compile Ethminer in Ubuntu for Nvidia cards.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 08:38:18 AM
OK I finally got the pool synched after deleting everything from tesnet and doing a full reinstall.

Pool is now open and active:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


Nice. Net hashrate 327 Gh/s ??? Real or not?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 08:41:37 AM
OK I finally got the pool synched after deleting everything from tesnet and doing a full reinstall.

Pool is now open and active:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


Nice. Net hashrate 327 Gh/s ??? Real or not?

not real - fixing this soon


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 14, 2015, 08:46:29 AM
OK I finally got the pool synched after deleting everything from tesnet and doing a full reinstall.

Pool is now open and active:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


Nice. Net hashrate 327 Gh/s ??? Real or not?

not real - fixing this soon

It was quite huge hashrate so quickly :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamdc on September 14, 2015, 08:46:42 AM
Hi Dev, we need block explorer.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: P-Funk on September 14, 2015, 08:47:00 AM
Thanks all for your help and suggestions. Both machines are running on Ubuntu, and the machine hosting gexp is mining as well. On the host machine I have ethminer 0.9.38 installed which seems to work fine, only it does not report hashrate to the go client. This allows me to use miner.hashrate in gexp however to see that the other machine is reporting some hashrate to it:

> miner.hashrate
3744483963011968000

However I can't be sure if the latest ethminer (--version reports 0.9.92) I got using apt-get is actually mining or not because its not giving proper output in the console. Plus I want to see the damn average hashrate for tweaking. I've tried to figure out how to get an older version of ethminer that correctly reports hashrate and new work but I can't come up with what versioning they use for the PPA to do "sudo apt-get install ethminer=(old version)"  Anyone know how to do that or build an old version from github?

This is more frustrating than I thought it'd be. For now I am going to use a second gexp client running on the second machine.

I figured this shit out. I think whoever is developing ethminer isn't bothering to test their own code because they've broken text output almost completely it seems. I copied the binary from the miner with a working version (0.9.38) to the 2nd machine, chowned it and now its working as it should. Software is supposed to get better with revision, not worse Ethereum devs.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: wildduck on September 14, 2015, 08:57:52 AM
OK I finally got the pool synched after deleting everything from tesnet and doing a full reinstall.

Pool is now open and active:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


Nice. Net hashrate 327 Gh/s ??? Real or not?

not real - fixing this soon

Ocminer you put global hashrate like 1.82 MHs i think it shuold be in GHs


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 09:03:16 AM
OK I finally got the pool synched after deleting everything from tesnet and doing a full reinstall.

Pool is now open and active:

https://exp.suprnova.cc


Nice. Net hashrate 327 Gh/s ??? Real or not?

not real - fixing this soon

Ocminer you put global hashrate like 1.82 MHs i think it shuold be in GHs

Thanks, fixed !


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
Good luck with the pool OC i think the blocks are a little fast for a pool at the moment


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 09:17:56 AM
Good luck with the pool OC i think the blocks are a little fast for a pool at the moment

Yes - whats the blocktime ? 5s ? :)



Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: Xdragon on September 14, 2015, 09:18:14 AM
wow EXP already surpassed Shift in terms of net hashrate


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamdc on September 14, 2015, 09:18:35 AM
@ocminer : Can you post your node here? Right now I only have 1 connection. Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: NRPatten on September 14, 2015, 09:20:45 AM
Good luck with the pool OC i think the blocks are a little fast for a pool at the moment

Yes - whats the blocktime ? 5s ? :)



lol yeah on average about that


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 09:23:38 AM
@ocminer : Can you post your node here? Right now I only have 1 connection. Thanks!

Looks strange, maybe it works:

enode://5ad2a7493a6be9daa417668c074398554884ed42950a35a361d3869367b9da16b093b41b6e9c7ca9835cb96af4f142428204ba527acf1eccf8c0dabc989d376b@[::]:42000


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 14, 2015, 09:51:13 AM
I saw some people had problem syncing. How do we know we are on the right fork ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 14, 2015, 10:03:54 AM
I saw some people had problem syncing. How do we know we are on the right fork ?

Same problem cant get it to sync.

nvm its syncing but really slow.....


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: sjenja on September 14, 2015, 10:17:29 AM
I saw some people had problem syncing. How do we know we are on the right fork ?

Same problem cant get it to sync.

nvm its syncing but really slow.....

Seems like it work now, mining now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Any plans to create a GUI wallet? Etherwall could be ported to work: http://etherwall.com/ .

Any progress on a real-time block explorer?


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: altcoinex on September 14, 2015, 10:47:52 AM
Any plans to create a GUI wallet? Etherwall could be ported to work: http://etherwall.com/ .

Any progress on a real-time block explorer?


We have a nice GUI wallet that will be out in a day or so. Block Explorer coming soon but no exact time. I believe we also determined the bug that is causing some people to only connect to 2-3 nodes. It seems this bug present in the stable releases of ethereum but not the cutting edge release. Those having trouble please use the pool provided by OC Miner until we release an update late today. Thanks ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 10:55:33 AM
Any plans to create a GUI wallet? Etherwall could be ported to work: http://etherwall.com/ .

Any progress on a real-time block explorer?


We have a nice GUI wallet that will be out in a day or so. Block Explorer coming soon but no exact time. I believe we also determined the bug that is causing some people to only connect to 2-3 nodes. It seems this bug present in the stable releases of ethereum but not the cutting edge release. Those having trouble please use the pool provided by OC Miner until we release an update late today. Thanks ;D

I was connecting back and forth between 3 to 4 peers, but now stable at 4 peers and seem to be on the right chain.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: ocminer on September 14, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
Guys I have problems with the peers too, please make absolutely sure the pool is on the right chain if you throw a lot of hash on it - unfortunately I cannot watch the pool all the time, but I'll try to keep an eye on it as I can.

Please understand that - with all those problems - ITS A high risk GAMBLE and I cannot be held responsible for coins lost on a fork - this is unlikely for me - but I usually never have concerns when I launch a pool.

I know there is no official block explorer yet, so its probably best to either solo mine or compare your block height with the pools block height.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 11:11:29 AM
Guys I have problems with the peers too, please make absolutely sure the pool is on the right chain if you throw a lot of hash on it - unfortunately I cannot watch the pool all the time, but I'll try to keep an eye on it as I can.

Please understand that - with all those problems - ITS A high risk GAMBLE and I cannot be held responsible for coins lost on a fork - this is unlikely for me - but I usually never have concerns when I launch a pool.

I know there is no official block explorer yet, so its probably best to either solo mine or compare your block height with the pools block height.

So far my block height in solo mining is matching your pool's block height...


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 14, 2015, 11:14:53 AM
Any plans to create a GUI wallet? Etherwall could be ported to work: http://etherwall.com/ .

Any progress on a real-time block explorer?


We have a nice GUI wallet that will be out in a day or so. Block Explorer coming soon but no exact time. I believe we also determined the bug that is causing some people to only connect to 2-3 nodes. It seems this bug present in the stable releases of ethereum but not the cutting edge release. Those having trouble please use the pool provided by OC Miner until we release an update late today. Thanks ;D

I thought the problem was the digitalocean droplets ... because you deplyed first nodes on it but without the ipv6 option.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 11:22:02 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Thewre was testing done for what, 3 or 4 days?

With the issues that was present then and still at the end of test net period then the coin should have been delayed on launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 11:28:19 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Thewre was testing done for what, 3 or 4 days?

With the issues that was present then and still at the end of test net period then the coin should have been delayed on launch.

I'm neither for or against a relaunch. If the relaunch isn't possible, maybe a fork and reset the diff.

Truly, can't say the launch is completely fair if a good number of people had issues that weren't related to their setups and hardware.

I guess ETH was resourceful at doing an semi live network with the olympic period of mining, maybe EXP should have been done like that after the testnet to get the kinks out.

All coins have some sort of hitch during launch, that's the reality and there will never be a fair/perfect launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: CryptoBeef on September 14, 2015, 11:29:01 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Thewre was testing done for what, 3 or 4 days?

With the issues that was present then and still at the end of test net period then the coin should have been delayed on launch.
it's enought. Most ppl interested by the project (at least miners) mined ETH first. That was a good training...
You had several weeks to set-up and test mining on ETH.

In fact clone coins are more easy ..see the .bat files


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: antonio8 on September 14, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Thewre was testing done for what, 3 or 4 days?

With the issues that was present then and still at the end of test net period then the coin should have been delayed on launch.
it's enought. Most ppl interested by the project (at least miners) mined ETH first. That was a good training...
You had several weeks to set-up and test mining on ETH.

In fact clone coins are more easy ..see the .bat files

I've been mining Eth for the last few weeks.  There was NO issue with connections. Not even Shift.

I am not the only one on Windows who has connection issues. It has been stated many times.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: SpeedDemon13 on September 14, 2015, 11:34:29 AM
Even after adding all the nodes I still get "admin.peers" = null

This coin is still in pre pre pre alpha stage, so, it is normal  :P  I had over 20 nodes, woke up this morning and - null

Edit: We need pools ASAP, so those problems with loosing all the nodes will not happen

Thewre was testing done for what, 3 or 4 days?

With the issues that was present then and still at the end of test net period then the coin should have been delayed on launch.
it's enought. Most ppl interested by the project (at least miners) mined ETH first. That was a good training...
You had several weeks to set-up and test mining on ETH.

In fact clone coins are more easy ..see the .bat files

I've been mining Eth for the last few weeks.  There was NO issue with connections. Not even Shift.

I am not the only one on Windows who has connection issues. It has been stated many times.

This is all too common in the crypto world. People that have things running smoothly, just assume that people are stupid that have issues and what not, that's the blunt truth, sad to say. Instead of helping and being community oriented in solving issues, some people don't have a humanitarian side to them.


Title: Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum
Post by: tamdc on September 14, 2015, 11:38:45 AM