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Title: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 12, 2015, 10:23:52 AM

So since Razerglass it's ignoring my pm's I decided to open this thread and to ask you guys , an apology makes a scammer more trustable?
I have shown proofs that he scammed me but he doesn't have red tag yet, what you're waiting guys ? Another scam accusation against him?

PS All proofs are in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173574.0) ,if it's needed I can rewrite them here


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: shorena on September 12, 2015, 11:27:37 AM

So since Razerglass it's ignoring my pm's I decided to open this thread and to ask you guys , an apology makes a scammer more trustable?
I have shown proofs that he scammed me but he doesn't have red tag yet, what you're waiting guys?

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?

Another scam accusation against him?

Do not open other another thread for an already existing topic.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 12, 2015, 05:44:13 PM
Don't know what your end goal is here my friend, you are unhappy with ANY outcome suggested by the community.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 12, 2015, 05:48:32 PM
Don't know what your end goal is here my friend, you are unhappy with ANY outcome suggested by the community.


he is happy with one solution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173574.msg12394565#msg12394565) suggested by the community.
I think you are the unhappy one.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 12, 2015, 06:59:01 PM
Don't know what your end goal is here my friend, you are unhappy with ANY outcome suggested by the community.

And again you act like a victim...I've sent you yesterday a PM but you didn't respond

https://i.gyazo.com/635ceae28406847a2fd759dd79272d3d.png

Seeying that you ignore me ,feedback was left accordingly.

Read (again) my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173574.msg12394565#msg12394565


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 12, 2015, 07:33:04 PM

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?


This was also a communication problem?



Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Scam Investigator on September 12, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
Try not to get frustrated Coinnosaurus

I have pointed out many bad things but the people of this site seem brainwashed at times

They won't leave bad trust for someone who seems bad


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 12, 2015, 07:39:03 PM

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?


This was also a communication problem?




I guess so.

You sent the code after I said I would be willing to pay you 0.035 for your example.

https://i.imgur.com/81QjO22.png


You said 0.125 for your work and i asked for a example. I got lower offers with the same message sent to everyone. Everyone "got started" on the example for me. You said you started on the example. I said I will be willing to pay 0.035 for the finished product as thats the lowest rate for better quality work. you replied acknowledging my standing 0.035 offer. you delivered the code, I paid my 0.035 like I said I would.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 12, 2015, 08:59:01 PM

I guess so.

You sent the code after I said I would be willing to pay you 0.035 for your example.

I started to work after you said OK (specially for you (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK)) and I said that the signature was ALMOST DONE BEFORE you sent me that message saying that you have another offers.
I said I will be willing to pay 0.035 for the finished product as thats the lowest rate for better quality work. you replied acknowledging my standing 0.035 offer. you delivered the code, I paid my 0.035 like I said I would.

Seriously ?? Then why you wrote here (https://i.gyazo.com/91a05431f413f8442456d05dc1a61708.png) 0.125 ?


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 12, 2015, 10:09:51 PM
if you want to focus on the trust we have both since withdrawn..

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: allyouracid on September 12, 2015, 10:59:32 PM

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?


This was also a communication problem?




I guess so.

You sent the code after I said I would be willing to pay you 0.035 for your example.

https://i.imgur.com/81QjO22.png


You said 0.125 for your work and i asked for a example. I got lower offers with the same message sent to everyone. Everyone "got started" on the example for me. You said you started on the example. I said I will be willing to pay 0.035 for the finished product as thats the lowest rate for better quality work. you replied acknowledging my standing 0.035 offer. you delivered the code, I paid my 0.035 like I said I would.
May I ask what kind of work you get for a measly rate of 0.03 BTC? I wouldn't even open my IDE for that.

.edit:
Just saw that it's about a signature. 0.12 seems more appropriate.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 12, 2015, 11:05:07 PM
if you want to focus on the trust we have both since withdrawn..

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?



https://i.imgur.com/VGs0boN.png


This is the message that is causing all the problems. I thought this was a example? It looks like it was photoshop/mspaint. I mean look at all the white spots in it?

How am I supposed to think that this is NOT a example?





Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 13, 2015, 05:45:08 AM
if you want to focus on the trust we have both since withdrawn..

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?



https://i.imgur.com/VGs0boN.png


This is the message that is causing all the problems. I thought this was a example? It looks like it was photoshop/mspaint. I mean look at all the white spots in it?

How am I supposed to think that this is NOT a example?


Thats why I said that the signature was almost done , the underline was not finished and I edited it paint to see if he likes it or I have to remove/change something.

and understood very well what I meant after I sent you this message.
https://i.gyazo.com/171ed509a837a4767f78ad25f37a1a07.png



They won't leave bad trust for someone who seems bad
for them...


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 13, 2015, 06:29:34 AM

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?
Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen (https://i.gyazo.com/fe44decbafff19f9c6972b44ac29eb1b.png))and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 06:31:26 AM

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?
Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen (https://i.gyazo.com/fe44decbafff19f9c6972b44ac29eb1b.png))and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment


So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 13, 2015, 07:31:21 AM

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?
Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen (https://i.gyazo.com/fe44decbafff19f9c6972b44ac29eb1b.png))and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment


So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.
1. You told you would pay 0.035 to another guy after I almost finished the design
2. I didn't care about what offers you had from another guys because we had our deal
3. You said that my design was much better
4. This screens proves that a day before you changed your mind and tried to fool me to keep public donations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657601.msg12337448#msg12337448) for your self, you owe me 0.125BTC

https://i.gyazo.com/9f2d8687cf828314ed37150d3960f141.png
https://i.gyazo.com/80efe3d0ec16fb8e4cc2f16c869b8ab6.png

What excuses do you have now?


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 07:36:47 AM

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?
Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen (https://i.gyazo.com/fe44decbafff19f9c6972b44ac29eb1b.png))and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment


So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.
1. You told you would pay 0.035 to another guy
2. I didn't care about what offers you had from another guys because we had our deal
3. You said that my design was much better
4. This screens proves that a day before you changed your mind and tried to fool me to keep public donations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657601.msg12337448#msg12337448) for your self, you owe me 0.125BTC



Public donations, No sir. I am holding off on the competition till this gets resolved.

You keep trying to redirect this conversation around the point that I said 0.035 Is my offer and you quoted me and said you were almost done and sent the code after. I never agreed to accepting your work for 0.125, I agreed to you giving me a example of what 0.125 work would look like. and before you send me the finished product I said, 0.035 is the going rate I am willing to pay for this. you had no complaint with that, you sent me the code after quoting me acknowledging that I would pay you 0.035. you even left me trusted feedback.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 13, 2015, 08:04:10 AM

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?
Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen (https://i.gyazo.com/fe44decbafff19f9c6972b44ac29eb1b.png))and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment


So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.
1. You told you would pay 0.035 to another guy
2. I didn't care about what offers you had from another guys because we had our deal
3. You said that my design was much better
4. This screens proves that a day before you changed your mind and tried to fool me to keep public donations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657601.msg12337448#msg12337448) for your self, you owe me 0.125BTC



Public donations, No sir. I am holding off on the competition till this gets resolved.

You keep trying to redirect this conversation around the point that I said 0.035 Is my offer and you quoted me and said you were almost done and sent the code after. I never agreed to accepting your work for 0.125, I agreed to you giving me a example of what 0.125 work would look like. and before you send me the finished product I said, 0.035 is the going rate I am willing to pay for this. you had no complaint with that, you sent me the code after quoting me acknowledging that I would pay you 0.035. you even left me trusted feedback.
It's obvious that you agreed and wanted to pay me 0.125 (look again at the risked BTC amount please)
https://i.gyazo.com/9f2d8687cf828314ed37150d3960f141.png
You didn't said that you will pay me 0.035 ,you said you had another offer and yes I made a mistake when I left you positive feedback.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 08:12:01 AM

I had never said I would pay you 0.125
That was your assumption because I acknowledged your price and asked for a example.

I never asked you to do it for 0.125

I did say I would take it for 0.035  and have more work for you. This was the opportunity to decline or accept



Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 08:12:53 AM


Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  :). Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book. I believe that guy sent over the code without verifying just to force Razerglass to pay him and evade the contest while he is at it. Like the famous quote from the X-files said 'trust no one' Razerglass.


Also Coinosaurus  If you werent happy with 0.035 why did you send him the code without double checking to make sure you would get 0.125 and not 0.035 like he said??

Yes exactly. Thats a good point, one I've been trying to get across.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 13, 2015, 08:32:30 AM


Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  :). Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book. I believe that guy sent over the code without verifying just to force Razerglass to pay him and evade the contest while he is at it. Like the famous quote from the X-files said 'trust no one' Razerglass.


Also Coinosaurus  If you werent happy with 0.035 why did you send him the code without double checking to make sure you would get 0.125 and not 0.035 like he said??

Yes exactly. Thats a good point, one I've been trying to get across.
I repeat, he said that he will pay another guy 0.035 ,thats why I sent him the code


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 08:33:59 AM

Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  :). Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book.

Wrong are you my friend . The signature it's not photoshoped ,it's real and matches 100% with that picture ,you can check it by your self

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Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: subSTRATA on September 13, 2015, 08:42:30 AM

Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  :). Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book.

Wrong are you my friend . The signature it's not photoshoped ,it's real and matches 100% with that picture ,you can check it by your self




You gave the work out for free now. You have solved our problem.
pretty much what happened through pm  as well, razerglass never agreed to actually buy the sig code for .125, and coinnosaurus simply sent without confirming that he would be selling it.



Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  :). Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book. I believe that guy sent over the code without verifying just to force Razerglass to pay him and evade the contest while he is at it. Like the famous quote from the X-files said 'trust no one' Razerglass.


Also Coinosaurus  If you werent happy with 0.035 why did you send him the code without double checking to make sure you would get 0.125 and not 0.035 like he said??

Yes exactly. Thats a good point, one I've been trying to get across.
I repeat, he said that he will pay another guy 0.035 ,thats why I sent him the code
you jumped the gun, and im assuming you were thinking that "if i send him the code now without him saying 'yes i will buy this from you for x price' he will HAVE to pay me instead of the other guy." youre overreacting to your own mistake from what i see.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 13, 2015, 08:43:52 AM

Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  :). Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book.

Wrong are you my friend . The signature it's not photoshoped ,it's real and matches 100% with that picture ,you can check it by your self

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You gave the work out for free now. You have solved our problem.

I did this because many of you think that I made this signature in photoshop..
I gave you the work almost for free also and the problem it's not solved.

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Coinosaurus is a scammer!

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(https://goo.gl/cvWwxW)
Nice one.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 08:51:08 AM
You took that message the wrong way and jumped the gun on work that I hadn't really asked for. "Example != Job"

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

you jumped the gun, and im assuming you were thinking that "if i send him the code now without him saying 'yes i will buy this from you for x price' he will HAVE to pay me instead of the other guy." youre overreacting to your own mistake from what i see.

You forsure jumped the gun. Never did I say I would take the work/example for your price.

 I sent you a counteroffer.

 And you had nothing to say about it then.

I'm sure you will keep pasting the pictures of the trust we left each other.
But don't forget the risked amount is meaningless, you left trust first I copied and pasted the risked amount you had already put. When no payment was received, you actually LIED by saying I paid the agreed amount. Is that all you can come up with? Just accept the fact we both should of confirmed the job and payment before payment and code was exchanged. Lesson learned for us both.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: michael23 on September 13, 2015, 09:09:03 AM
I also talked to razerglass about this signature in PM, he did asked me for example. Unfortunately I don't have much time to work on this one so I didn't send him anything.
I have joined so many signature contests here, and I also work with people through PM. The major problem here is razerglass ask every designers to make a sample for his logo, that is pretty much to tell designer to work for you and you will only pay the one you chose, there is no problem with that if you run it in a open contest with bounty amount stated up front. But here, you compare the works of the designers submissions and bidding the best result with lowest rate (which we don't know the design result).
Lesson learned here, best is to ask only designers past works, if you feel you interested with their works go with them. You don't want to gamble with just 1 designer, run a contest with some bounty. That's all I can say.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: jbrnt on September 13, 2015, 08:34:17 PM
I repeat, he said that he will pay another guy 0.035 ,thats why I sent him the code

He wants you to lower your price for your design. I think there is no "another guy" who would make a nice sign for 0.035btc. You should have called his bluff and let him pay "another guy" the 0.035btc.

The major problem here is razerglass ask every designers to make a sample for his logo, that is pretty much to tell designer to work for you and you will only pay the one you chose

This is precisely the case. He wants the best signature and not promise to pay anything.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 08:38:27 PM
I also talked to razerglass about this signature in PM, he did asked me for example. Unfortunately I don't have much time to work on this one so I didn't send him anything.
I have joined so many signature contests here, and I also work with people through PM. The major problem here is razerglass ask every designers to make a sample for his logo, that is pretty much to tell designer to work for you and you will only pay the one you chose, there is no problem with that if you run it in a open contest with bounty amount stated up front. But here, you compare the works of the designers submissions and bidding the best result with lowest rate (which we don't know the design result).
Lesson learned here, best is to ask only designers past works, if you feel you interested with their works go with them. You don't want to gamble with just 1 designer, run a contest with some bounty. That's all I can say.

Yeah the decision was made to hold a competition after I had created the thread asking for designers, a handful of people replied in the thread telling me that a competition is the best course of action. That also corresponds with the same time me asking the designers if they would like to use their entry in the competition. This is my first venture seeking out service. And lots of lessons have been learned. I'm sure for both parties.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: jbrnt on September 13, 2015, 08:49:05 PM
Yeah the decision was made to hold a competition after I had created the thread asking for designers, a handful of people replied in the thread telling me that a competition is the best course of action.

It's going to cost you more than 0.035btc to hold a design contest. The best designers like medUSA and roslinpl wouldn't design for less than 0.2btc. I think Coinnosaurus's design is a bargain at 0.125btc and you have already paid part of it.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 13, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
Yeah the decision was made to hold a competition after I had created the thread asking for designers, a handful of people replied in the thread telling me that a competition is the best course of action.

It's going to cost you more than 0.035btc to hold a design contest. The best designers like medUSA and roslinpl wouldn't design for less than 0.2btc. I think Coinnosaurus's design is a bargain at 0.125btc and you have already paid part of it.

Yes sir I am well aware now, the community has donated appropriate funds to compensate the winner(s) and the runoffs.

Holding a public competition with a community vote is a overall much better way to ask for service when it is FOR a community instead of going on a private solo venture.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 15, 2015, 06:47:48 AM
Yeah the decision was made to hold a competition after I had created the thread asking for designers, a handful of people replied in the thread telling me that a competition is the best course of action.

It's going to cost you more than 0.035btc to hold a design contest. The best designers like medUSA and roslinpl wouldn't design for less than 0.2btc. I think Coinnosaurus's design is a bargain at 0.125btc and you have already paid part of it.

Yes sir I am well aware now, the community has donated appropriate funds to compensate the winner(s) and the runoffs.

Holding a public competition with a community vote is a overall much better way to ask for service when it is FOR a community instead of going on a private solo venture.

So now you agree that you didn't paid me fully.I hope you'll make the right decision and I'll remove the feedback



Im having so much fun over here  ;D that signature looks so weird. But for realz... the gun was jumped in my book too by Scamosaurus... Thanks for the code too


Not sure why you're so happy my young friend since you said that the signature looks weird ,anyway you're welcome .


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 15, 2015, 06:52:01 AM
Yeah the decision was made to hold a competition after I had created the thread asking for designers, a handful of people replied in the thread telling me that a competition is the best course of action.

It's going to cost you more than 0.035btc to hold a design contest. The best designers like medUSA and roslinpl wouldn't design for less than 0.2btc. I think Coinnosaurus's design is a bargain at 0.125btc and you have already paid part of it.

Yes sir I am well aware now, the community has donated appropriate funds to compensate the winner(s) and the runoffs.

Holding a public competition with a community vote is a overall much better way to ask for service when it is FOR a community instead of going on a private solo venture.

So now you agree that you didn't paid me fully.I hope you'll make the right decision and I'll remove the feedback



Bud you gave the code out for free. Why would I pay for that freeware?

Look at the history, you jumped the gun and sent me work knowing full well my standing offer was 0.035. You got paid in full. and then you shared my code with the public. You kinda screwed me here.



Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 15, 2015, 06:58:21 AM
Yeah the decision was made to hold a competition after I had created the thread asking for designers, a handful of people replied in the thread telling me that a competition is the best course of action.

It's going to cost you more than 0.035btc to hold a design contest. The best designers like medUSA and roslinpl wouldn't design for less than 0.2btc. I think Coinnosaurus's design is a bargain at 0.125btc and you have already paid part of it.

Yes sir I am well aware now, the community has donated appropriate funds to compensate the winner(s) and the runoffs.

Holding a public competition with a community vote is a overall much better way to ask for service when it is FOR a community instead of going on a private solo venture.

So now you agree that you didn't paid me fully.I hope you'll make the right decision and I'll remove the feedback



Bud you gave the code out for free.



I gave it to you almost for free , sooner or later it would have been open for public
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Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 15, 2015, 07:01:00 AM
You took that message the wrong way and jumped the gun on work that I hadn't really asked for. "Example != Job"

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

you jumped the gun, and im assuming you were thinking that "if i send him the code now without him saying 'yes i will buy this from you for x price' he will HAVE to pay me instead of the other guy." youre overreacting to your own mistake from what i see.

You forsure jumped the gun. Never did I say I would take the work/example for your price.

 I sent you a counteroffer.

 And you had nothing to say about it then.

I'm sure you will keep pasting the pictures of the trust we left each other.
But don't forget the risked amount is meaningless, you left trust first I copied and pasted the risked amount you had already put. When no payment was received, you actually LIED by saying I paid the agreed amount. Is that all you can come up with? Just accept the fact we both should of confirmed the job and payment before payment and code was exchanged. Lesson learned for us both.



You keep trying to pull in pictures I already posted as if its something new. I'm sorry bud but the code I paid for when I decided to give it to the public was my decision, but you jumped the gun on that too. Just like everything else seen above. There is no value in it anymore. It cannot be used as the example for the competition.

You should refund me my bitcoin. For giving out the signature I purchased from you for free.

 


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 15, 2015, 07:12:43 AM
You took that message the wrong way and jumped the gun on work that I hadn't really asked for. "Example != Job"

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

you jumped the gun, and im assuming you were thinking that "if i send him the code now without him saying 'yes i will buy this from you for x price' he will HAVE to pay me instead of the other guy." youre overreacting to your own mistake from what i see.

You forsure jumped the gun. Never did I say I would take the work/example for your price.

 I sent you a counteroffer.

 And you had nothing to say about it then.

I'm sure you will keep pasting the pictures of the trust we left each other.
But don't forget the risked amount is meaningless, you left trust first I copied and pasted the risked amount you had already put. When no payment was received, you actually LIED by saying I paid the agreed amount. Is that all you can come up with? Just accept the fact we both should of confirmed the job and payment before payment and code was exchanged. Lesson learned for us both.



You keep trying to pull in pictures I already posted as if its something new. I'm sorry bud but the code I paid for when I decided to give it to the public was my decision, but you jumped the gun on that too. Just like everything else seen agove. There is no value in it anymore. It cannot be used as the example for the competition.

 
I will keep posting pictures because you seems to forget or don't want to remeber what you said.
I didn't jumped the gun ,we agreed at 0.125 and I thought you remeber that.
We both did mistakes thats why I accepted community's suggestion which is a middle price.



You should refund me my bitcoin. For giving out the signature I purchased from you for free.

 
You have to pay my spent time
I gave it to you almost for free , sooner or later it would have been open for public
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Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 15, 2015, 07:17:02 AM
I will keep posting pictures because you seems to forget or don't want to remeber what you said.
I didn't jumped the gun ,we agreed at 0.125 and I thought you remeber that.
We both did mistakes thats why I accepted community's suggestion which is a middle price.

I never agreed to 0.125, we can keep arguing over this until you are a hero member.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 15, 2015, 07:20:12 AM
You have given the signature out for free. You OWE me my money back. This entire escapade is a waste of time now that the public has seen the code. Thanks to you giving it out without my concent.

You have my bitcoin address. do the right thing.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Coinnosaurus on September 15, 2015, 07:22:28 AM
I will keep posting pictures because you seems to forget or don't want to remeber what you said.
I didn't jumped the gun ,we agreed at 0.125 and I thought you remeber that.
We both did mistakes thats why I accepted community's suggestion which is a middle price.

I never agreed to 0.125, we can keep arguing over this until you are a hero member.

You have given the signature out for free. You OWE me my money back. This entire escapade is a waste of time now that the public has seen the code. Thanks to you giving it out without my concent.

You have my bitcoin address. do the right thing.
It's useless to talk with you ,it's a double waste of time . My feedback will not be removed ,let the people know what ass you are.


Title: Re: An apology makes a scammer more trustable?
Post by: Razerglass on September 15, 2015, 07:23:19 AM
I will keep posting pictures because you seems to forget or don't want to remeber what you said.
I didn't jumped the gun ,we agreed at 0.125 and I thought you remeber that.
We both did mistakes thats why I accepted community's suggestion which is a middle price.

I never agreed to 0.125, we can keep arguing over this until you are a hero member.

You have given the signature out for free. You OWE me my money back. This entire escapade is a waste of time now that the public has seen the code. Thanks to you giving it out without my concent.

You have my bitcoin address. do the right thing.
It's useless to talk with you ,it's a double waste of time . My feedback will not be removed ,let the people know that ass you are.

Fair enough. You have my bitcoin address if you ever have a change of heart my friend.