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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: JeemFromBoston on September 18, 2015, 11:01:58 AM



Title: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: JeemFromBoston on September 18, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
Hi guys

Just thought I should make this post to assure everyone stays away from this scam site.

They say everything is regulated but it is pretty clear that it is not.

On August 7, I deposited 0.5 btc and cashed out a good amount  (2.4 btc) from running good in the live casino.

Since then, I have made 10 deposits for a total of 5 btc.

During this time, I have mainly used the computer blackjack due to being on the mobile site.  In this aspect, t shows what cheats these guys are.

I have played over 1000 hands of blackjack.  Since I cashed out, I have won just 29% of the hands including 25% on double downs.

I have had a situation where I could double with a 10 or 11 126 times.  I got a face card in this situation just 29 times.  The most common card was 7,

The dealer has been in the same situation 153 times with a 10 or 11, and received a face cars 93 times.

It's amazing what has happened after I won


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Tschai on September 18, 2015, 11:04:57 AM
Ahhh...the I-SHOULD-HAVE-STOPPED-AFTER-MY-(BIG)-WIN syndrome... ::)


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: JeemFromBoston on September 18, 2015, 11:08:03 AM
2 bitcoins is not a big win.

The statistics are alarming


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: zeraTunerse on September 18, 2015, 11:09:07 AM
That's very usual with these gambling sites , you must know when to stop as these gambling sites are made to suck the Last drop you have , they eventually lure you and then Scam you with what all you have and what they gave you and call them-self as fair.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: JeemFromBoston on September 18, 2015, 11:12:29 AM
Losing doesn't bother me as I am an advantage player who moves money around sites on a daily basis.

What bothers me is when a company cheats.

I have taken advantage of there bonuses repeatedly and I have never seen statistics as bad as I have seen with this site since August 7,


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: zeraTunerse on September 18, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
Losing doesn't bother
What bothers me is when a company cheats.


Before saying anything Unjust I would suggest you to Message their support , moreover their official thread is here on BCTalk , You can PM him and say about the incident.
Hope they will not Ruin their Reputation for just 2 BTC.
Till then please Lock the thread.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: JeemFromBoston on September 18, 2015, 11:37:55 AM
I will make it my point to ruin there reputation

They have straight up stolen from me


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Tschai on September 18, 2015, 11:42:37 AM
I will make it my point to ruin there reputation

They have straight up stolen from me
So it's not about solving the issue, if there is any...
So it's not about proving their system is/is not provably fair...
So it's not about contacting them and getting in touch with them...
So it's not about you having proof for the Bitcoin gambling community here, that they're actually scam...

It's only about 'ruin there reputation'...


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Winalunt on September 18, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
I will make it my point to ruin there reputation

They have straight up stolen from me
I doubt it can be the case ,they had run their signature campaign for some months and its cost could not be less than 30 coins.
why would they such thing for 2 coins won by you ?

better try support as mentioned above,.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: FanEagle on September 18, 2015, 11:59:17 AM
I played there for 1 straight here and only this year i won in 3 days 4 bitcoins, but after that my total loss is been like 100 mbtc. So how they cheat?
I don't use anymore their blackjack because I don't like it, but with their roulette I won a lot.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: ndnh on September 18, 2015, 12:04:08 PM
To be honest, when it is not provably fair there is no way anyone knows what is really happening...

May be they are, may be they aren't. My advice is for Blackjack (and Roulette, etc.) please stick to provably fair sites as far as possible.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Phildo on September 18, 2015, 12:11:25 PM
What kind of advantage player would play online blackjack to clear a bonus?

I can't even get the casino games to load, so I can't look at the details, but I can almost guarantee there are better options than blackjack to clear a bonus.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Pro Gamers on September 18, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
To be honest, when it is not provably fair there is no way anyone knows what is really happening...

May be they are, may be they aren't. My advice is for Blackjack (and Roulette, etc.) please stick to provably fair sites as far as possible.

I honestly dont understand about the whole conversation here since i dont play blackjack and i should not come in theres nothing i can say to OP but i was interested with your post, i play direct dice and the site says provably fair but im not yet good enough to know if its true, can you advise me any tested provably site with game direct dice you know?


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Erza on September 18, 2015, 12:25:47 PM
2 bitcoins is not a big win.

The statistics are alarming

2 btc is great when you just only deposit 0.5 btc that is around 200% winning already so it is worth enough. But sometimes people are just getting greedy thats why you lose all of it. This is just common things when winning big people say this is luck when lose they will blame the site said that they are scam


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Altcoin4life on September 18, 2015, 12:27:36 PM
To be honest, when it is not provably fair there is no way anyone knows what is really happening...

May be they are, may be they aren't. My advice is for Blackjack (and Roulette, etc.) please stick to provably fair sites as far as possible.

The fact people still play at these non provably fair sites and use bitcoin in itself is astonishing.  People if u want to be ripped off by casinos that aren't provably fair just use fiat sites.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: JeemFromBoston on September 18, 2015, 02:21:23 PM
2 bitcoins is not a big win.

The statistics are alarming

2 btc is great when you just only deposit 0.5 btc that is around 200% winning already so it is worth enough. But sometimes people are just getting greedy thats why you lose all of it. This is just common things when winning big people say this is luck when lose they will blame the site said that they are scam

I deposit small, play aggressive and try to run it up.

4x my deposit is nice but since then.  Noooo


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: twister on September 18, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
I don't know if it is provably fair or not, so can't say whether you can verify your bets but when you won, you didn't had anything to complain and now when you have lost all of sudden the site is cheat? I can understand what you're feeling but are you saying that they let you win 2.4 BTC and hoped that you will come back and lose more?? Doesn't makes any sense..

I think it was just bad luck my man!


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Nobitcoin on September 18, 2015, 02:37:44 PM
You should make sure how many packs they use and do they shuffle the cards after every hand or until the shoe is finished. Sounds like after such a bad run ladykuck would have come back in the next few hands statistically.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: spazzdla on September 18, 2015, 02:39:26 PM
I was playing poker on a dogecoin poker website..

After watching the same player get the best hand possible and beating 4 other people and then me with us having the 2nd best hand possible.. I no longer gamble on crypto sites.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: plost24 on September 18, 2015, 02:44:56 PM
when you enter a gambling site you accept to lose or win bitcoin when you start winning you didn't say anythink and if you had a good profit you must withdraw and if you think that is a small profit you will accept again to win more or to lose all.
So if you lost all it's mean you don't know when to stop and 2.4 btc it's a great profit form gambling site.
when you lose you just want to throw the responsablity to the house and you are the one who is responsable for your lost.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: joksim299 on September 18, 2015, 02:48:57 PM
Their Blackjack (https://bitcasino.io/casino/blackjack/Bitcoin-Blackjack) is rigged for sure.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: beerlover on September 18, 2015, 02:54:38 PM
Mama say don play video game !

Obv the BJ you are playing is video game and those btc you won are from live game !


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: laiyskylone on September 18, 2015, 03:43:09 PM
I ask all of you and ask why the domain .io ?


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: FanEagle on September 18, 2015, 04:10:36 PM
I ask all of you and ask why the domain .io ?
because it's cute ::)


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: SyGambler on September 18, 2015, 04:56:50 PM
try to post it in their thread and let's see if they are going to discuss it , we should know if they care about their repu
their system may not be provably fair and it may be , but we need to discuss it
this one of the bad things about bitcoin gambling that we don't really know what is going on when we play casino games


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Trayber on September 18, 2015, 07:26:33 PM
You guys are really stupid. For one Bitcasino has many different providers of blackjack. So to say its rigged you are accusing the top online gaming providers such as NetEnt, Microgaming, PlayNGo of having rigged games. Bitcasino has no control of the cards because they are connecting you to servers provided by reputable gaming companies. Do some research before you make dumb accusations.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: fox19891989 on September 18, 2015, 07:36:25 PM
You guys are really stupid. For one Bitcasino has many different providers of blackjack. So to say its rigged you are accusing the top online gaming providers such as NetEnt, Microgaming, PlayNGo of having rigged games. Bitcasino has no control of the cards because they are connecting you to servers provided by reputable gaming companies. Do some research before you make dumb accusations.

+1, i suspected softbet blackjack too before, but after I bet some large money, I find I was wrong, it is fair, and I bet large bets 3 times(3 btc per bet), I won 2 times and lost 1 time, if it is rigged, I should have lost all of 3 hands, but I won 2, it means that I still earn 3 btc from them, it is fair enough game. I trust those biggest game providers.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: mat420 on September 19, 2015, 05:13:27 AM
Another butthurt looser oh boo boo boo I lost my money so they must be cheaters I have won over 30 btc playing there over the last 6 months and I can easily  prove that so trust me they don't care about your petty 2 btc u lame grow up gambling is for adults


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: rz20 on September 19, 2015, 05:57:14 AM
Is rigged.

I got an offer from a casino to company telling me that I could change the odds of the game in my favor to win 80% of the bets, so if the flash game is not probably fair just don't play there.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: FanEagle on September 19, 2015, 08:32:58 AM
well I prefer for sure the live dealing, even if it's more expensive, but at least it's reliable.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Phildo on September 19, 2015, 12:28:22 PM
Is rigged.

I got an offer from a casino to company telling me that I could change the odds of the game in my favor to win 80% of the bets, so if the flash game is not probably fair just don't play there.

You can do that with many games. If you bet on 30 numbers in roulette you have an 80% chance to win. The there are 80% options in dice too. That doesn't mean you will make money.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: waterpile on September 19, 2015, 01:11:45 PM
Its good that OP didn't provide any good proof for his claims.  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: FanEagle on September 19, 2015, 01:17:22 PM
Proofs? Where we are going we don't need proofs *swoosh*


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: Shogen on September 19, 2015, 07:32:11 PM
Its good that OP didn't provide any good proof for his claims.  ::)

The BJ on bitcasino.io is not provably fair, and the problem on not provably fair sites is that there will never be good proof. The site cannot prove the game is fair, and the player cannot prove it is unfair even if he is having an unlikely bad run. I do agree with OP that people should stay away from the site and any not provably fair sites.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: fox19891989 on September 19, 2015, 07:41:07 PM
Its good that OP didn't provide any good proof for his claims.  ::)

The BJ on bitcasino.io is not provably fair, and the problem on not provably fair sites is that there will never be good proof. The site cannot prove the game is fair, and the player cannot prove it is unfair even if he is having an unlikely bad run. I do agree with OP that people should stay away from the site and any not provably fair sites.

But you should know that "provably fair" is only the concept in BTC gambling industry, in fiat world, never seen this kind of concept before, so casinos use those famous fiat game providers like betsoft, microgaming, net ent and so forth, it is impossible to prove it is fair or not.

For my experience on betsoft BJ, IMO it is fair cause I bet 3 btc per hand for 3 times, I won 2 times and lost 1 time, if it is rigged, how can i win 2 times? I should have lost all of 3 times if that is rigged and unfair.  :D ;D

BTC gamblers should follow the trend, it means that provably fair is good but not compulsory in the industry, we can't force people not to play those famous casino providers' games.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: momore on September 19, 2015, 07:51:36 PM
Hi guys

Just thought I should make this post to assure everyone stays away from this scam site.

They say everything is regulated but it is pretty clear that it is not.

On August 7, I deposited 0.5 btc and cashed out a good amount  (2.4 btc) from running good in the live casino.

Since then, I have made 10 deposits for a total of 5 btc.

During this time, I have mainly used the computer blackjack due to being on the mobile site.  In this aspect, t shows what cheats these guys are.

I have played over 1000 hands of blackjack.  Since I cashed out, I have won just 29% of the hands including 25% on double downs.

I have had a situation where I could double with a 10 or 11 126 times.  I got a face card in this situation just 29 times.  The most common card was 7,

The dealer has been in the same situation 153 times with a 10 or 11, and received a face cars 93 times.

It's amazing what has happened after I won

Thanks for the warning, I will stay away.


Title: Re: Bitcasino.io are cheats
Post by: fox19891989 on October 12, 2015, 04:51:06 AM
Is rigged.

I got an offer from a casino to company telling me that I could change the odds of the game in my favor to win 80% of the bets, so if the flash game is not probably fair just don't play there.

slots providers can change the odds of the slot expected return/payout, of course you can turn down if you wanna make huge money from gamblers, but I see most famous casinos keep the highest expected return so they can attract more players, and just make money from lots of players, and they can still earn big if the house edge is lowest.