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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:04:32 PM



Title: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
I am interested in establishing a little bit of back-and-forth between the more experienced/reputable members and myself. I am seeking to establish professional connections and prove that I am trustworthy around this community.

I am seeking a loan of BTC.0035 and I will return BTC.005 within 24-hours.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: TheGr33k on September 21, 2015, 03:08:24 PM
Which address shall I send loan to?


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 21, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
no collateral no loan for newbies, sorry. even if the amount is very low.
you'll only get a negative feedback asking for a loan with no collateral while you're still a newbie.

just wait for someone to sell you some BTC.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Patejl on September 21, 2015, 03:13:02 PM
Well mate you were told that you shouldn't lend solely for the reason of trust farming now have a look at the negative trust you have.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
I gave him negative trust for three reasons:

1) Newbie asking for no collateral loan
2) Modifying his loan request to remove the words "Earning trust"
3) Asking to buy bitcoin using the reversible currency paypal.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:16:34 PM
I'm not "trust farming", I'm establishing connections with bitcoins members that matter, pay-it-forward, and are genuinely nice people. You can flame, de-trust and do whatever you please. I have done nothing wrong, I am not engaging in "scammy" behaviour, and I am quickly learning that a community that is extremely welcoming can have just as many clique-y conservatives ;) .

I gave him negative trust for three reasons:

1) Newbie asking for no collateral loan
2) Modifying his loan request to remove the words "Earning trust"
3) Asking to buy bitcoin using the reversible currency paypal.

1) It's less than a dollar
2) I changed it after realizing the word "trust" isn't an adjective on this forum, it's a noun. I had not known "trust" was even a "currency" of sorts here. I had meant literally what I had said, establishing valuable connection with bitcoin enthusiasts.
3) I was offering MULTIPLE methods to purchase BTC, Paypal, WESTERN UNION, MONEY GRAM, or Skrill.

Carry on, Kappa.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:17:37 PM
Reason: Establishing connections / getting my name out to the people who matter in this community. Showing that I'm trustworthy.

You succeeded.   :-\


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:23:26 PM
I will not be scared away from carrying on legitimate business just because you deem it "scammy" , yet you have nothing but an outside perspective. You have never even attempted to transact with me, and therefore you are making claims which hold no merit beyond your 1400-post count...

It just seems a little absurd to assume the "Guilty because I'm legendary and say so" model.

1JHdBzXuGpd23f1hywwsgpNjjSzVpbRBLC will be the BTC address I'll accept the collateral-free loan, please and thank you.

That's one way to shoot the bird before it can fly. ;)


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 21, 2015, 03:25:57 PM
funny thing is OP just registered yesterday. made 30+ post all in correct sections. and yet still don't know how the users feel about newbies and paypal/loan.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:27:31 PM
3) I was offering MULTIPLE methods to purchase BTC, Paypal, WESTERN UNION, MONEY GRAM, or Skrill.

I'm interested in buying $50-$100 BTC on Paypal if you're willing to use an escrow or go first

Now he has resorted to outright lying.   :-\

Will be interesting to see if TheGr33k funds this loan....


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:31:30 PM
funny thing is OP just registered yesterday. made 30+ post all in correct sections. and yet still don't know how the users feel about newbies and paypal/loan.

Knowing how users feel about newbies and paypal/loan, and knowing what would be reasonable, morale and just are two completely different things.. Evidently.
There's NO reason I should get negatively repped for the POSITIVE , SMOOTH, and LEGITIMATE transaction(s) I've performed in my short time here.



3) I was offering MULTIPLE methods to purchase BTC, Paypal, WESTERN UNION, MONEY GRAM, or Skrill.

I'm interested in buying $50-$100 BTC on Paypal if you're willing to use an escrow or go first

Now he has resorted to outright lying.   :-\

Will be interesting to see if TheGr33k funds this loan....

Mis-quoting me doesn't make your position any better, in fact it makes you look like you're unable to even process the most blatant context-clues. That was a REPLY to another newbie's thread who WANTED paypal for his BTC. Yet, it's funny because if I was lying about offering other payment methods then I wonder how I bought these BTC with Skrill...


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:34:00 PM
Original loan request for those that may not have seen it on the other thread:

Loan Amount: BTC.0035
Amount to be repaid: BTC.005
Repayment Date: 24-Hours
Collateral: None
Reason: Earning trust
Bitcoin Address: 1JHdBzXuGpd23f1hywwsgpNjjSzVpbRBLC

This, on top of looking to buy bitcoin with paypal, makes this user untrustworthy and hence the legitimate feedback.

Open and shut case.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Patejl on September 21, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
Well I don't think it will have any visible effect as Vod's feedback but giving you a negative anyway, you were warned in advance of the consequenses if you wanted to trust farm


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 21, 2015, 03:37:28 PM
actually, looks like he already did some trade with Jakez here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1185466.msg12479879#msg12479879) (transaction proof (https://blockchain.info/tx/2a7bce097af7862073f9aef91b506ff8a898f17aa70dee7e95344e2c0b70713a)). don't think they're the same person.

doesn't change the fact that he asked for a no collateral loan and is hunting for trust, though. and actually just made it worse because OP actually have a lot more than 0.0035BTC


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:38:49 PM
Original loan request for those that may not have seen it on the other thread:

Loan Amount: BTC.0035
Amount to be repaid: BTC.005
Repayment Date: 24-Hours
Collateral: None
Reason: Earning trust
Bitcoin Address: 1JHdBzXuGpd23f1hywwsgpNjjSzVpbRBLC

This, on top of looking to buy bitcoin with paypal, makes this user untrustworthy and hence the legitimate feedback.

Even after thoroughly explaining my ignorance to the fact that "trust" is a tangible currency on this forum, you're going to repeat yourself? I did not mean earning +1's, +ve's, or whatever they are called. I was talking about TRUST, like that which is held between two reputable businessmen, friends and family.

Yet, you're still so hell-bent on repeating yourself to prove to the community how horrible of a person I am.. When EVERY single transaction has ended positively. You are bored, and have no right to impede on the building of my reputation; by slandering it and negatively repping me you're showing your true colors, and that's all that needs to be said.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:40:50 PM
Yet, you're still so hell-bent on repeating yourself to prove to the community how horrible of a person I am.. When EVERY single transaction has ended positively. You are bored, and have no right to impede on the building of my reputation; by slandering it and negatively repping me you're showing your true colors, and that's all that needs to be said.

Damn.  Guess I'll have to live with that reputation, scammer.   :-\


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: zazarb on September 21, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
3) I was offering MULTIPLE methods to purchase BTC, Paypal, WESTERN UNION, MONEY GRAM, or Skrill.

I'm interested in buying $50-$100 BTC on Paypal if you're willing to use an escrow or go first

Now he has resorted to outright lying.   :-\

Will be interesting to see if TheGr33k funds this loan....
he will  funds if
will get  to borrow :) just ask in loan in other topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1169136.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1169136.new#new)


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
he will  funds if
will get  to borrow :) just ask in loan in other topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1169136.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1169136.new#new)

That's interesting.  I wonder if TheGr33k and the OP are the same person.  Certainly would explain why he is so willing to make the loan to such a high risk.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 03:46:56 PM
I'm just distraught when I receive negative rep for making a Loan-request thread after being specifically told to do so by my lender.

Loan Amount: BTC.0035
Amount to be repaid: BTC.005
Repayment Date: 24-Hours
Collateral: None
Reason: Establishing connections / getting my name out to the people who matter in this community. Showing that I'm trustworthy.
Bitcoin Address: 1JHdBzXuGpd23f1hywwsgpNjjSzVpbRBLC

I will give this loan to you. Can you post a thread in lending section? I know you will repay back as you won't be risking the services you are providing for just 0.0035.
Please post a new thread and I will grant you this loan. PM me once done.

Enjoy your power-trip, thanks for ruining my reputation before it got started and trashing my thread like a bull in a china shop.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
I'm just distraught when I receive negative rep for making a Loan-request thread after being specifically told to do so by my lender.

I didn't give you negative trust for making a new thread.  But it does help in keeping the scams sorted out - thank you.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 03:53:07 PM
actually, looks like he already did some trade with Jakez here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1185466.msg12479879#msg12479879) (transaction proof (https://blockchain.info/tx/2a7bce097af7862073f9aef91b506ff8a898f17aa70dee7e95344e2c0b70713a)). don't think they're the same person.

You can't tie that incomplete conversation with that transaction.  OP probably just sent coins to himself.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: 21coin on September 21, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
I'm just distraught when I receive negative rep for making a Loan-request thread after being specifically told to do so by my lender.

Loan Amount: BTC.0035
Amount to be repaid: BTC.005
Repayment Date: 24-Hours
Collateral: None
Reason: Establishing connections / getting my name out to the people who matter in this community. Showing that I'm trustworthy.
Bitcoin Address: 1JHdBzXuGpd23f1hywwsgpNjjSzVpbRBLC

I will give this loan to you. Can you post a thread in lending section? I know you will repay back as you won't be risking the services you are providing for just 0.0035.
Please post a new thread and I will grant you this loan. PM me once done.

Enjoy your power-trip, thanks for ruining my reputation before it got started and trashing my thread like a bull in a china shop.
Both I and Vod had warned you of the consequences if you took a loan for trust farming purpose, and don't tell me it was the "TRUST" because I dont see any trust where the loan is only of 0.0035.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 21, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
actually, looks like he already did some trade with Jakez here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1185466.msg12479879#msg12479879) (transaction proof (https://blockchain.info/tx/2a7bce097af7862073f9aef91b506ff8a898f17aa70dee7e95344e2c0b70713a)). don't think they're the same person.

You can't tie that incomplete conversation with that transaction.  OP probably just sent coins to himself.

yeah. I know. that's why I said it just make it worse because
A. Jakez and EthanB might be the same person if it's fake. <- like I said I think not. but I might be wrong.
B. OP did have a lot more than the asked amount. (that transaction was made before OP created this thread.)


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 21, 2015, 04:03:50 PM
A. Jakez and EthanB might be the same person if it's fake. <- like I said I think not. but I might be wrong.

Jakez and EthanB had an incomplete conversation.  No deal was made.   :)

Like I said, you can't tie that one transaction with an insignificant chat.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Jakez on September 21, 2015, 04:47:47 PM
A. Jakez and EthanB might be the same person if it's fake. <- like I said I think not. but I might be wrong.

Jakez and EthanB had an incomplete conversation.  No deal was made.   :)

Like I said, you can't tie that one transaction with an insignificant chat.
We made a deal for skrill to BTC and i received the funds in skrill after his enquiry through PM. I transferred him the equivalent BTC. Seems he is legit trying to get some trust. But i cannot assure anything beyond.

actually, looks like he already did some trade with Jakez here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1185466.msg12479879#msg12479879) (transaction proof (https://blockchain.info/tx/2a7bce097af7862073f9aef91b506ff8a898f17aa70dee7e95344e2c0b70713a)). don't think they're the same person.

You can't tie that incomplete conversation with that transaction.  OP probably just sent coins to himself.

yeah. I know. that's why I said it just make it worse because
A. Jakez and EthanB might be the same person if it's fake. <- like I said I think not. but I might be wrong.
B. OP did have a lot more than the asked amount. (that transaction was made before OP created this thread.)
A. On what basis do you think we both are same. If you have some proof then let me know :)
B. He contacted me for Paypal, Skrill or WU to BTC and i said i can do it through skrill. He sent me the skrill amount 27+ USD and i sent him BTC.

Let me know if you have any more questions :).


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: --Encrypted-- on September 21, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
A. On what basis do you think we both are same. If you have some proof then let me know Smiley
-snip-
Let me know if you have any more questions :).

none at all. I've got nothing against you. as you can see there's the words if, think, and wrong there. ;)


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: TheGr33k on September 21, 2015, 05:09:57 PM
I am no more going to give out this loan as you have got negative trust and you probably won't be paying back now.
If you are able to get -ve trust removed (tough) I will give you loan.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: zazarb on September 21, 2015, 05:33:13 PM
I am no more going to give out this loan as you have got negative trust and you probably won't be paying back now.
If you are able to get -ve trust removed (tough) I will give you loan.

Financial   crisis in Greece over? ;D or us "the greek" lending from the European Union granted loan? ;D

edit: Do not be angry very, I just not abstain , your nick and you financial Action.... :)


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: TheGr33k on September 21, 2015, 06:26:45 PM
I am no more going to give out this loan as you have got negative trust and you probably won't be paying back now.
If you are able to get -ve trust removed (tough) I will give you loan.

Financial   crisis in Greece over? ;D or us "the greek" lending from the European Union granted loan? ;D

Such Spam, Much WoW


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 10:06:32 PM
You guys have successfully ruined my time here at this forum, so thanks for scaring away a young-professional. I spend two days here and I'm already being HARASSED by people who have no idea what they're talking about.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: actmyname on September 21, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
You guys have successfully ruined my time here at this forum, so thanks for scaring away a young-professional. I spend two days here and I'm already being HARASSED by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Unfortunately before asking for a loan you did not read anything about how we look at newbies requesting loans. On the off-chance that you are a "young-professional", then you would know that there are trust issues involved with financial concerns.

This forum is not a charity.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 21, 2015, 10:18:57 PM
You guys have successfully ruined my time here at this forum, so thanks for scaring away a young-professional. I spend two days here and I'm already being HARASSED by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Unfortunately before asking for a loan you did not read anything about how we look at newbies requesting loans. On the off-chance that you are a "young-professional", then you would know that there are trust issues involved with financial concerns.

This forum is not a charity.

I'm pretty sure I'm just going to leave the forum at this point. I have seen the consistency of idiocy being bred here. "This forum is not a charity" , hence the reason I'm offering near 50% interest within 24-hours.. Under what circumstance is that charity?

Also, the way you view newbies is obviously completely idiotic if you assume that it's an "off-chance" that I'm a young-professional. It's completely half-witted to just -ve me because I'm a newbie asking for a loan. If you don't see that, then that's exactly why I won't be sticking around. The majority of you have proven yourself dim-witted, with little-no people skills. Enjoy the basement everyone!



Mod please trash this thread, it has been nothing, but a headache from EVERYONE involved.. Including the guy who told me to make a thread for a loan, and then proceeded to back-out of his side of things because I get a -ve from listening to HIM.

There's no accountability, and trust is SOLELY based on post-count here which is beyond pathetic.


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: actmyname on September 21, 2015, 10:30:43 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm just going to leave the forum at this point. I have seen the consistency of idiocy being bred here. "This forum is not a charity" , hence the reason I'm offering near 50% interest within 24-hours.. Under what circumstance is that charity?

Also, the way you view newbies is obviously completely idiotic if you assume that it's an "off-chance" that I'm a young-professional. It's completely half-witted to just -ve me because I'm a newbie asking for a loan. If you don't see that, then that's exactly why I won't be sticking around. The majority of you have proven yourself dim-witted, with little-no people skills. Enjoy the basement everyone!



Mod please trash this thread, it has been nothing, but a headache from EVERYONE involved.. Including the guy who told me to make a thread for a loan, and then proceeded to back-out of his side of things because I get a -ve from listening to HIM.

There's no accountability, and trust is SOLELY based on post-count here which is beyond pathetic.

Well, if you put this situation in a real-life situation, do you think a bank will loan an anonymous person with no credit rating just asking for a loan? You don't have to be defensive about this, but if you stuck around on the forum and did more trades to grow your reputation, then people might consider a loan.

At the very least don't ask for a loan when you're the very first rank. Ranks are the only way we can really allow for loans, because of the amount of time a person invests into an account.

Imagine which one you would rather give this loan to: a fresh account saying he's professional, or an account that has remained active on the forum for 200+ days?

Note: Activity =/= Post Count


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: Vod on September 22, 2015, 12:33:55 AM
You guys have successfully ruined my time here at this forum, so thanks for scaring away a young-professional. I spend two days here and I'm already being HARASSED by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

You did it to yourself.  You were warned by two different people.  You chose to ignore the warnings and continue your trust building.   :-\


Title: Re: Looking for Short-Term, Micro-Loan
Post by: EthanB on September 22, 2015, 03:18:43 AM
Can we get this thread closed?