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Title: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: Jeremias on September 21, 2015, 08:50:24 PM with the S7 announcement, bitmain might have nudged ahead. Now, what do u think guys, will there be a new product launch from spondoolies or an upgrade to the existing line.
Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: TheRealSteve on September 21, 2015, 10:44:59 PM There's a "vs Spondoolies"? Granted, they're tight-lipped because merger with publicly traded company - so they might whip something out despite numerous previous statements about, and not exactly in favor of, (consumer) hardware sales.
Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: majestymage on September 21, 2015, 10:56:43 PM they said something interesting in they mail announcing the merger "We will continue to update you with more news in the next few days, stay tuned" let's see ;D
Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: Xian01 on September 22, 2015, 12:01:05 AM Spondoolies is entirely irrelevant right now, and for the near-term future. Bitmain is really the only consumer game in town, unfortunately.
Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: gallery2000 on September 22, 2015, 01:16:44 AM with the S7 announcement, bitmain might have nudged ahead. Now, what do u think guys, will there be a new product launch from spondoolies or an upgrade to the existing line. They are coming out with Sponodo Gojan Heights https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1150920 Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: alh on September 22, 2015, 08:26:31 AM with the S7 announcement, bitmain might have nudged ahead. Now, what do u think guys, will there be a new product launch from spondoolies or an upgrade to the existing line. They are coming out with Sponodo Gojan Heights https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1150920 Feel free to follow the link and asses it's accuracy for yourself. Just remember that this is the SPECULATION sub-forum, and claims here should be treated accordingly. Even if it were accurate, a 7TH, 3.5KW miner isn't all that impressive now. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: QuintLeo on September 22, 2015, 08:46:19 AM I suspect Bitmain's real competiton will show up around December - Lktec powered by Innosilicon.
I'd be happy for Spondoolies to prove me wrong though. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: spazzdla on September 22, 2015, 03:53:11 PM Bitmain is currently the only company making ASIC's I thought..
Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: TheRealSteve on September 22, 2015, 05:24:43 PM Bitmain is currently the only company making ASIC's I thought.. Not the only one. Just one of the few remaining that sell to consumers.Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: QuintLeo on September 24, 2015, 09:36:28 AM The only one CURRENTLY selling miners that are viable for home miners *RIGHT NOW* is Bitmain.
There has been at least one other "soon" announcement, out of Lktec, for a miner that the S7 appears to have been specifically designed to try to preempt. Since the Lktec design appears likely to be based on the "announced as taped out" Innosilicon A3 design, and since Innosilicon has made miners in the past, I expect a fairly good probability of an Innosilicon miner design as well - but even if they do that, I suspect that that Innosilicon's miner would be more along the lines of a rack-mount 4-5U unit in the 20-30TH range, similar to what they did on their A2 Terminator design. Too bad Spondoolies has abandoned the consumer market, perhaps they'd be willing to start selling their new chip *soon* to someone like Sidehack to build an actual HOME miner design out of. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on September 25, 2015, 09:45:53 PM The only one CURRENTLY selling miners that are viable for home miners *RIGHT NOW* is Bitmain. There has been at least one other "soon" announcement, out of Lktec, for a miner that the S7 appears to have been specifically designed to try to preempt. Since the Lktec design appears likely to be based on the "announced as taped out" Innosilicon A3 design, and since Innosilicon has made miners in the past, I expect a fairly good probability of an Innosilicon miner design as well - but even if they do that, I suspect that that Innosilicon's miner would be more along the lines of a rack-mount 4-5U unit in the 20-30TH range, similar to what they did on their A2 Terminator design. Too bad Spondoolies has abandoned the consumer market, perhaps they'd be willing to start selling their new chip *soon* to someone like Sidehack to build an actual HOME miner design out of. Well Bitmain "Right now" has nothing. It's true there will certainly be a second batch in October but it's pretty moot right now. Meanwhile Spoondoolies is Selling those SP50, however only in Bulk. Now what qualify a "Bulk" i don't know, but that mean a reseller could get a batch and then sell it to end user. But there's some serious issues with powering 6000W at home. Noise and heat will make this pretty prohibitive, so even if the home buyer can get a hand on a SP50, it feel like you'd need a crane to move the damn thing around. Meanwhile Bitfury announce something even better but with no actually hardware available. At least Bitmain is getting some pressure so we might be seeing S7's at reasonable ROI soon. Then again that's pretty subjective if these 3 company sell 150PH of hardware by the halving, there won't be much current miner left after that. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: Biodom on September 26, 2015, 06:13:26 PM The only one CURRENTLY selling miners that are viable for home miners *RIGHT NOW* is Bitmain. There has been at least one other "soon" announcement, out of Lktec, for a miner that the S7 appears to have been specifically designed to try to preempt. Since the Lktec design appears likely to be based on the "announced as taped out" Innosilicon A3 design, and since Innosilicon has made miners in the past, I expect a fairly good probability of an Innosilicon miner design as well - but even if they do that, I suspect that that Innosilicon's miner would be more along the lines of a rack-mount 4-5U unit in the 20-30TH range, similar to what they did on their A2 Terminator design. Too bad Spondoolies has abandoned the consumer market, perhaps they'd be willing to start selling their new chip *soon* to someone like Sidehack to build an actual HOME miner design out of. Well Bitmain "Right now" has nothing. It's true there will certainly be a second batch in October but it's pretty moot right now. Meanwhile Spoondoolies is Selling those SP50, however only in Bulk. Now what qualify a "Bulk" i don't know, but that mean a reseller could get a batch and then sell it to end user. But there's some serious issues with powering 6000W at home. Noise and heat will make this pretty prohibitive, so even if the home buyer can get a hand on a SP50, it feel like you'd need a crane to move the damn thing around. Meanwhile Bitfury announce something even better but with no actually hardware available. At least Bitmain is getting some pressure so we might be seeing S7's at reasonable ROI soon. Then again that's pretty subjective if these 3 company sell 150PH of hardware by the halving, there won't be much current miner left after that. 6000w? :) It's 16500w AFAIK Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: philipma1957 on September 26, 2015, 07:27:13 PM The only one CURRENTLY selling miners that are viable for home miners *RIGHT NOW* is Bitmain. There has been at least one other "soon" announcement, out of Lktec, for a miner that the S7 appears to have been specifically designed to try to preempt. Since the Lktec design appears likely to be based on the "announced as taped out" Innosilicon A3 design, and since Innosilicon has made miners in the past, I expect a fairly good probability of an Innosilicon miner design as well - but even if they do that, I suspect that that Innosilicon's miner would be more along the lines of a rack-mount 4-5U unit in the 20-30TH range, similar to what they did on their A2 Terminator design. Too bad Spondoolies has abandoned the consumer market, perhaps they'd be willing to start selling their new chip *soon* to someone like Sidehack to build an actual HOME miner design out of. this would be really nice. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on September 26, 2015, 07:53:24 PM The only one CURRENTLY selling miners that are viable for home miners *RIGHT NOW* is Bitmain. There has been at least one other "soon" announcement, out of Lktec, for a miner that the S7 appears to have been specifically designed to try to preempt. Since the Lktec design appears likely to be based on the "announced as taped out" Innosilicon A3 design, and since Innosilicon has made miners in the past, I expect a fairly good probability of an Innosilicon miner design as well - but even if they do that, I suspect that that Innosilicon's miner would be more along the lines of a rack-mount 4-5U unit in the 20-30TH range, similar to what they did on their A2 Terminator design. Too bad Spondoolies has abandoned the consumer market, perhaps they'd be willing to start selling their new chip *soon* to someone like Sidehack to build an actual HOME miner design out of. Well Bitmain "Right now" has nothing. It's true there will certainly be a second batch in October but it's pretty moot right now. Meanwhile Spoondoolies is Selling those SP50, however only in Bulk. Now what qualify a "Bulk" i don't know, but that mean a reseller could get a batch and then sell it to end user. But there's some serious issues with powering 6000W at home. Noise and heat will make this pretty prohibitive, so even if the home buyer can get a hand on a SP50, it feel like you'd need a crane to move the damn thing around. Meanwhile Bitfury announce something even better but with no actually hardware available. At least Bitmain is getting some pressure so we might be seeing S7's at reasonable ROI soon. Then again that's pretty subjective if these 3 company sell 150PH of hardware by the halving, there won't be much current miner left after that. 6000w? :) It's 16500w AFAIK Yes, i was missing a 1, there. Effective Hash Rate 110 TH/s ± 10% Nominal Power Consumption 16,570 W Depending on how many they made for their first batch, it could equate to a fairly big difficulty bump. Though of course nothing will happen this weekend. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: philipma1957 on September 27, 2015, 03:36:27 AM The only one CURRENTLY selling miners that are viable for home miners *RIGHT NOW* is Bitmain. There has been at least one other "soon" announcement, out of Lktec, for a miner that the S7 appears to have been specifically designed to try to preempt. Since the Lktec design appears likely to be based on the "announced as taped out" Innosilicon A3 design, and since Innosilicon has made miners in the past, I expect a fairly good probability of an Innosilicon miner design as well - but even if they do that, I suspect that that Innosilicon's miner would be more along the lines of a rack-mount 4-5U unit in the 20-30TH range, similar to what they did on their A2 Terminator design. Too bad Spondoolies has abandoned the consumer market, perhaps they'd be willing to start selling their new chip *soon* to someone like Sidehack to build an actual HOME miner design out of. Well Bitmain "Right now" has nothing. It's true there will certainly be a second batch in October but it's pretty moot right now. Meanwhile Spoondoolies is Selling those SP50, however only in Bulk. Now what qualify a "Bulk" i don't know, but that mean a reseller could get a batch and then sell it to end user. But there's some serious issues with powering 6000W at home. Noise and heat will make this pretty prohibitive, so even if the home buyer can get a hand on a SP50, it feel like you'd need a crane to move the damn thing around. Meanwhile Bitfury announce something even better but with no actually hardware available. At least Bitmain is getting some pressure so we might be seeing S7's at reasonable ROI soon. Then again that's pretty subjective if these 3 company sell 150PH of hardware by the halving, there won't be much current miner left after that. 6000w? :) It's 16500w AFAIK Yes, i was missing a 1, there. Effective Hash Rate 110 TH/s ± 10% Nominal Power Consumption 16,570 W Depending on how many they made for their first batch, it could equate to a fairly big difficulty bump. Though of course nothing will happen this weekend. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: mavericklm on September 27, 2015, 04:39:40 AM there is always a ''vs'' between this monsters, but i think it's not only when a company is publicly announces an x product. this is only a façade, just a cover of what is truly inside... there might be a bigger farm just installed, already an y product, or a very big investor....
what i mean is that we only see a little bit of this asics wars, the official side for the masses Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on September 27, 2015, 11:28:45 AM there is always a ''vs'' between this monsters, but i think it's not only when a company is publicly announces an x product. this is only a façade, just a cover of what is truly inside... there might be a bigger farm just installed, already an y product, or a very big investor.... what i mean is that we only see a little bit of this asics wars, the official side for the masses The worse part is, their sales will be behind doors, so basically they could be announcing it just to "attack" the competition, notably Bitmain's S7. Meanwhile they possibly already have a buyer or are shipping them all to their own data center since that's some pretty efficient hardware right there. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: UFCkid on September 28, 2015, 06:28:03 AM there is always a ''vs'' between this monsters, but i think it's not only when a company is publicly announces an x product. this is only a façade, just a cover of what is truly inside... there might be a bigger farm just installed, already an y product, or a very big investor.... what i mean is that we only see a little bit of this asics wars, the official side for the masses The worse part is, their sales will be behind doors, so basically they could be announcing it just to "attack" the competition, notably Bitmain's S7. Meanwhile they possibly already have a buyer or are shipping them all to their own data center since that's some pretty efficient hardware right there. exactly this^ not know why anyone mines alone when so much happens that is not known by public. tough to trust. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: mavericklm on September 28, 2015, 06:43:17 AM there is always a ''vs'' between this monsters, but i think it's not only when a company is publicly announces an x product. this is only a façade, just a cover of what is truly inside... there might be a bigger farm just installed, already an y product, or a very big investor.... what i mean is that we only see a little bit of this asics wars, the official side for the masses The worse part is, their sales will be behind doors, so basically they could be announcing it just to "attack" the competition, notably Bitmain's S7. Meanwhile they possibly already have a buyer or are shipping them all to their own data center since that's some pretty efficient hardware right there. exactly this^ not know why anyone mines alone when so much happens that is not known by public. tough to trust. it's their business! we should care about ourselves!.... and the good of btc ofcourse! we do the verification transactions ;D because there is ~10C outside and we need the heat ::) :D Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: PPOC on October 01, 2015, 02:48:43 AM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked....
Anyone have any insight? Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: RichBC on October 01, 2015, 06:29:12 AM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on October 01, 2015, 02:27:51 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation? Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: PPOC on October 01, 2015, 02:30:20 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation? Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on October 01, 2015, 02:37:28 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation? Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later. They gave credits for S3 Batch 1 for all units because so many were hit and miss, etc. I think if you have an issue with your miner, even if its just the price change, they usually don't fuck you over. I can swear someone merely said he got a small refund because of the price difference. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: PPOC on October 01, 2015, 03:05:03 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation? Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later. They gave credits for S3 Batch 1 for all units because so many were hit and miss, etc. I think if you have an issue with your miner, even if its just the price change, they usually don't fuck you over. I can swear someone merely said he got a small refund because of the price difference. Ok, Well when I finally get the two I ordered and assuming they run without issue, I will submit a ticket for a adjustment But I did notice that now their sales page states the following. I don't think they had this on the S5 sales pages and hence they provided some refunds. Note: The price of bitcoin mining machines must be adjusted frequently according to many factors, including BTC/USD exchange rate, the network difficulty, and expected difficulty increase. Refund requests based on price changes cannot be honored. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on October 01, 2015, 03:12:14 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich Insights hmm. Let see. Wasn't Bitmain offering some credit or partial refunds on the Batch 1 depending on what you got and the price difference? Pretty sure some people said they wish they would get more but they got something in compensation? Yes, but I thought that was due to issues with PSU's on the S4's. The 1st batch had a high PSU fail rate. I don't think they did anything with S5's, I bought a bunch but can't remember if it was batch 1 or later. They gave credits for S3 Batch 1 for all units because so many were hit and miss, etc. I think if you have an issue with your miner, even if its just the price change, they usually don't fuck you over. I can swear someone merely said he got a small refund because of the price difference. Ok, Well when I finally get the two I ordered and assuming they run without issue, I will submit a ticket for a adjustment But I did notice that now their sales page states the following. I don't think they had this on the S5 sales pages and hence they provided some refunds. Note: The price of bitcoin mining machines must be adjusted frequently according to many factors, including BTC/USD exchange rate, the network difficulty, and expected difficulty increase. Refund requests based on price changes cannot be honored. I guess they have that there as a effective way of shooting you down. It is possible you need to pad your request with other valid concerns, like the unit not performing all that great, minor stability issues etc. But i might be wrong and only imagined them giving a 70$~ back on batch one but i can swear i saw it somewhere... Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: Searing on October 03, 2015, 01:09:43 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich If i remember right they have a 90 day warranty on these units? (anyone?) man that is a lot of heat and complexity to find out that after the elec burnt and these btc prices for the thing to just brick at month four...that in itself would give me pause (but then again I'm a coward now with NEW at least home miner equip etc etc at 13.5c kwh where I'm at. I did a sp10 1.4th spondoolies i saw on ebay for 250 bucks and I lost 35 bucks a month using the www.tradeblock.com calculator and that includes a PSU in the unit...anyway all well beyond my efforts now ..even so the 90 day warranty would be unnerving to me ..even if it kinda made sense ..just saying :) Maybe someone in Oregon can pull this off or with cheap elec ..me er not so much. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: VirosaGITS on October 03, 2015, 03:58:09 PM So whats up with Bitmain, they listed Batch 2 and Batch 3 of the S7 and Batch 1 has not shipped yet? Also, Batch 3 is $200 bucks cheaper then batch 1. Nothing like feeling screwed! They will all probably ship around same time and if you buy Batch 3 its $200 less. Thats not right. Also Batch 2 has less hash with same amount of chips? I don't get that unless its unlocked at the factory or maybe batch 1 and 3 is overclocked.... Anyone have any insight? Batch 1 & 3 are meeting the original spes and are running at 600MHz, 1210W giving 4860GH/S They then seem to have some units, that guessing have an unacceptable HW Error rate, so they called them Batch 2, have turned them down to 575MHz, 1160W giving 4660GH/S selling at $73 less than Batch 3. :) Rich If i remember right they have a 90 day warranty on these units? (anyone?) man that is a lot of heat and complexity to find out that after the elec burnt and these btc prices for the thing to just brick at month four...that in itself would give me pause (but then again I'm a coward now with NEW at least home miner equip etc etc at 13.5c kwh where I'm at. I did a sp10 1.4th spondoolies i saw on ebay for 250 bucks and I lost 35 bucks a month using the www.tradeblock.com calculator and that includes a PSU in the unit...anyway all well beyond my efforts now ..even so the 90 day warranty would be unnerving to me ..even if it kinda made sense ..just saying :) Maybe someone in Oregon can pull this off or with cheap elec ..me er not so much. There is a warranty but RMA is at your cost. And shipping to China isint so cheap as to get stuff from China, apparently. If you would just take a picture and they would send you replacement part, it would be nice but no... You have to ship them back the stuff, sometime the whole miner. You then lose mining time. All in all, its not a very pleasant experience. In the best of case, you only need a new controller but there's some horrible story of what happened to people right now. Even with the S7 just now. Title: Re: with S7, bitmain vs spondoolies becomes interesting Post by: YuginKadoya on October 05, 2015, 02:07:07 PM There will always be a competition between competitors maybe spondoolies gonna release their ultimate mining machine yet
but in my reseach in bitcoin machines there is no forever in the top! there will always be a new one, just like smart phone now! 1GB ram, 2GB ram, 3GB ram 4GB ram etc... and consumers will always buy the new one or the latest, but I prefer the lowest price possible if the performance is just the same right! ::) |