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Bitcoin => Wallet software => Topic started by: Furio on September 28, 2015, 06:30:16 AM



Title: Easy setup and use Coinjoin or Darkwallet
Post by: Furio on September 28, 2015, 06:30:16 AM
Fellow Bitcoiners,

Ever since the announcement of coinjoin and darkwallet I was very interested into further anomynizing my bicoin use.

Yet every tutorial since this day has failed for me personally. I'm not that tech savy, the greatest accomplishment for me was getting my bitfury's to work, that took me over a week :)

Once in a while I check google, bitcointalk and more to see if there's has been released a version of coinjoin or darkwallet which any user just can use. Just install, deposit funds and start mixing.

The reason why it has also failed is that I dont trust myself enough to just try it with a large sum, I'm no whale sadly :)

Can anyone point me in the direction of an easy to use, fullproof way of using coinjoin or darkwallet.

Any help would be much appreciated!


Title: Re: Easy setup and use Coinjoin or Darkwallet
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 28, 2015, 07:22:21 AM
I already made a topic about Darkwallet to revive the project and so the bitcoin community start funding it but that didn't really work so it seems like Darkwallet project is dead and there is no one who is working , and as you can see here , funding is still at 75% an dit being months it has been that way : https://www.darkwallet.is/donate/

and According to their website (check the bold part mostly)  :

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Remember: this is only a alpha preview. Do not expect stable software yet. Right now it is only available for Chrome/Chromium browsers.

IMPORTANT The wallet is Not Stable or Safe, and at this point you should use it with real money only at Your Own Risk.

You can use it with testnet coins so it's safe to test like that though. Choose testnet network when creating the identity.



Now for what comes to CoinJoin and according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoinJoin :

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here are several implementation of anonymous bitcoin transactions inspired by CoinJoin: SharedCoins,[2] Dark Wallet,[3] CoinShuffle,[4] DarkSend in Darkcoin and JoinMarket.[5]

So for SharedCoin : https://sharedcoin.com/   (It's related to Blockchain.info as far as I know , so you can just go to your Blockchain wallet and go to Sending tab , you should find something there)


Title: Re: Easy setup and use Coinjoin or Darkwallet
Post by: Furio on September 29, 2015, 08:10:56 AM
I already made a topic about Darkwallet to revive the project and so the bitcoin community start funding it but that didn't really work so it seems like Darkwallet project is dead and there is no one who is working , and as you can see here , funding is still at 75% an dit being months it has been that way : https://www.darkwallet.is/donate/

and According to their website (check the bold part mostly)  :

Quote
Remember: this is only a alpha preview. Do not expect stable software yet. Right now it is only available for Chrome/Chromium browsers.

IMPORTANT The wallet is Not Stable or Safe, and at this point you should use it with real money only at Your Own Risk.

You can use it with testnet coins so it's safe to test like that though. Choose testnet network when creating the identity.



Now for what comes to CoinJoin and according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoinJoin :

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here are several implementation of anonymous bitcoin transactions inspired by CoinJoin: SharedCoins,[2] Dark Wallet,[3] CoinShuffle,[4] DarkSend in Darkcoin and JoinMarket.[5]

So for SharedCoin : https://sharedcoin.com/   (It's related to Blockchain.info as far as I know , so you can just go to your Blockchain wallet and go to Sending tab , you should find something there)

Thank you for these options. Really looking for a service such as coinjoin or darkwallet, only without all the tech knowhow, just ninstall and run :)

I really like the sharedcoin application, only it talks about trustless, yet wants me to open a account on blockchainwallet!? So I have to trust Blockchain... If they go belly up or decide to dissapear, bye bye :)

Since we're talking about substantial amounts, around 7 to 12 btc, I wont be taking that gamble :)


Title: Re: Easy setup and use Coinjoin or Darkwallet
Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 29, 2015, 08:22:02 AM
Blockchain.info don't have your private keys or anything belongs to you on their database , only the wallet files however they are useless without the password that only you have it .
Wallets are stored in Physical servers which are with guards 24/7 so that shouldn't a problem , just make sure to print your private keys and you should be fine even if the service goes down I assume . Beside their wallet is open source so you can check it out without using it online


Title: Re: Easy setup and use Coinjoin or Darkwallet
Post by: Furio on September 29, 2015, 09:38:44 PM
Blockchain.info don't have your private keys or anything belongs to you on their database , only the wallet files however they are useless without the password that only you have it .
Wallets are stored in Physical servers which are with guards 24/7 so that shouldn't a problem , just make sure to print your private keys and you should be fine even if the service goes down I assume . Beside their wallet is open source so you can check it out without using it online

Thanks for clearing that up, I was clearly misinformed, after researching was you've said :)

It seems I have my solution now finally, just how close does sharedcoin come to coinjoin, is it exactly the same or something different?


Title: Re: Easy setup and use Coinjoin or Darkwallet
Post by: achow101 on September 30, 2015, 01:53:38 AM
Another coinjoin you could look at is JoinMarket. The thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.msg10096563 I haven't used it myself, but it seems like it may be difficult to use. However, it does use CoinJoin and supposedly works well.