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This is going to be a busy couple of months for Microsoft.  How do you think they will fare?  I think all these release dates are so close together there is going to be a major bottleneck in support, especially for their brand new products.  I personally think Halo 4 is going to be the only release that goes off "without a hitch."

No one in his right mind will be going to use Windows8. Server 2012 is for businesses and they usually not deploy to production systems unless they are well tested. Windows Phone and game Halo 4 = too small user base. Only thing that is going to be big for Microsoft is profit.

Windows 8 = won't make any impact
Server 2012 = nobody will care for another year or two at best
Windows Phone = too little too late
Halo 4 = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Windows 8 is going to be cheap though!  Retail copies as low as $70 possibly.  I know lots of consumers/customers (not power users granted) who are going to buy at least 1 right out of the gate.

I think most Windows users will be put off by the whole Metro interface. I know you can turn it off but then you're basically left with Windows 7. I have no intentions on paying $70, or even $1, to get an OS that I have to turn off all the "new & improved" features because they serve no purpose on a laptop/desktop.

Usually 10% of users makes 90% of support requests.

I myself am always in a situation where I could use more windows licences, just because I want to run software for windows.  I use linux quite a bit but for example: games and netflix are windows-only right now.  I don't need windows for a whole lot but for my entertainment I *always* like to keep some sort of media pc connected to my tv's... 

I have a windows activator that I use every time I install win7 on a pc. PM me if interested

Windows 8 is $70 for the 'basic' version, and $140 for anything with media enabled. Backdoors, copyright policing and data mining all come free with all versions.

XP Black edition
http://www.zone54.com/file-repository/viewdownload/17/97

Run it in a VM on debian for netflix or scrap netflix and just stream off tv-links/watchseries and other link sites

Actually Windows8 will be pretty big in business adoption, because XP support is going to end in 2013, all businesses running XP will be forced to upgrade before 2014, 40% of business are still running XP right now, this will be huge. Though I agree consumer adoption of win8 will be very slow.

I'm ashamed to say I'm impressed with the win8 preview.  It runs catalyst, guiminer, its quick on old machines.  Its been nothing but good to me so far.

There is not known case when intentional backdoor was included in Windows OS. The low-grade encryption is closest that comes to my mind. Given the scrutiny from reverse engineers and wide user base this also in somewhat unlikely that there is ready-to-use backdoor in Windows OS. But security flaws - there are lots of them as with any closed source product written in mostly bad manner by paid workers.

And how they will police copyright when I install warez?

Data mining - don't use features that send information you don't explicitly need to be sent.I know businesses still happily running Windows98 on workstations. They are slowly replacing them when failing because it is harder to find spare parts for failed hardware and it is difficult to find a person who knows how to maintain Windows98 based computer. Easier just to thrash the whole computer :(

Plenty of engraving and CNC machines run DOS still for that matter, newer software for those machines just doesn't exist the companies that made them moved on or are out of business completely...


You'd be surprised... lol

You think I never run Wireshark to see what is happening? Or I'm just lucky or skilled one who patched up all leaks in Windows7?

For Win8 and "cloud services" and "social apps" - they all are inherently anti-privacy and should not be used even if you really have nothing to hide.

There is one in Windows 8
https://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/windows-8-will-have-a-kill-switch/

The DRM control is pretty out of control with version 8 too, and MS is trying to lock out all software vendors unless they sell through their own Windows App/Game Store where they get a 30% cut.

Then there's UEFI, and countries making it illegal to tamper with 'DRM protected UEFI' just so you can install BSD or debian on your box.

So what does that backdoor in 8 mean?  I'm not sure of the fallout I guess...

MM--you misunderstand me I think, what I meant to say was "you'd be surprised how many people who should know this, don't."  I work on computers mainly as a hobby and as a result I do upgrades/repairs for friends and family (many of which have important jobs) and they do stuff like download free antivirus protection from popups.

It already exists in two forms in Windows 7 and it is called Network Protection Service and Malicious Software Removal Tool. First is disabled by default on fresh installations and mainly is intended for corporate use but have potential for abuse. Second tool is updated at least on monthly basis and God knows what M$ decides to include in malicious software list.Would I be unable to install Warez on Windows8 ? UEFI is badly needed to support hard drives larger than 2TB as a boot drives. It cames with it's own problems but at least it is a work in progress to say farewell legacy BIOS.This is crackpot move if it is true but remember - meatspace laws does not dictate what is happening in cyberspace or on devices in hackers possession. I don't care if it is illegal to modify UEFI firmware like it is illegal now to FAP to 16yo girls pictures or download latest films from torrent sources.

Only if they don't have clothes on.

I can't have a boner if they are not naked and legs apart. Not exactly my taste, I like a little bit older girls but the pedo scare is 21-st century witch hunt.

And Windows8 is catastrophe even more than Vista was in 2006.

I cannot stand server 2012!  It's like playing with a tablet built for 8 year olds!  Hot-corner, mac rip off, bullshit! I had to demo it to see if our SQL database would move over and I HATE IT!  I wanted to smash it the second I got it.  You can't just simply click twice and tada, control panel.  It's some bullshit hand-holdy, slow ass crap interface from Windows 8.

The last couple versions of Halo before that prequel atrocity were absolutely horrid and the user interface of even that latest one is a crime against UIs.  I doubt Halo 4 will be any better.

Windows 8 is like Millennium Edition and Vista combined but with the worst interface ever designed.  It's going to be hell on earth just like Vista for even more reasons than both of those combined.

They are going to be on the verge of bankruptcy after such a chain of disappointments.

Windows 8 is optimized for touch screen devices. With Server 2012 You can have sql database server running on tablet! What a brainfart from Microsoft!Windows Millenium actually was not that bad, it only offered no real advantages over Windows98 and had a namely few serious flaws. Other than that it was better than initial WindowsXP release against Windows2000. Vista was catastrophe for users but a profit for techies like me who were replacing with WinXP on ALL new computers with Vista preinstalled.

Its true.  Vista being so bad is what has led to the "extended life cycle" of xp I still have three retail copies and people want to buy them from me all the time but I find them helpful to keep around. 

I use vista all the time however just because I have 4-5 retail copies of it I acquired free.

My shop is only sitting on 3 copies of windows 7 cuz I don't have tons of money laying around atm :( MS goes around demanding copies back from MS partners (aka all my vendors) like crazy license nazis so I won't be able to get a copy from legit channels.  I didn't really follow XP but how long can I expect OEM system builder copies to be on ebay and what kind of a price hike?

And as for ME, it was what they had done with XP so far that they rushed to release because Apple was coming out with OS 8 or 9 or something.  I used it one time and I plugged in a mouse and it blue screened while loading the default HID driver :P It basically didn't work at all.  The functionality seemed to sort of be there compared to XP but it was just so gitchy and they killed it a year later.

Oem of 7?  I expect there to be huge rash of good looking fakes any day now if 8 is going to be as I'll received as everyone is predicting.  Any copies of xp oem you did at this point are all from china, I've never seen a pirated vista (lol) and mainly win 7 is the fairly common oem ultimate crack from the pre-release.  I was only just barely able to sell a sealed win 7 pro retail for $120 recently.  My main os source is from stripping down custom builds and pulling retail win 7 keys when I find them.  I don't think win 7 is too hard to find right now, are you having trouble?

There are precisely zero working pirated copies of Windows 7.  It's XP on steroids when it comes to not being able to download windows updates if it's not legit.  You absolutely cannot run an unlicensed copy in a safe manner.  It is impossible.  If someone starts passing off fakes that won't activate or won't patch, they'll get 100% negative feedback on ebay and will be eliminated by the ebay secret police or whatever, lol.

Plus, I have a case and front panel print and all that to compare to any photo on ebay.  If even 1 clasp is wrong, and the Chinese aren't very detail-oriented with fakes, I'll see it.  That or I just won't buy anything from California where all the Asian ebay sellers are.

I know plenty of people who run bad copies of 7 who report no problems, but definitely don't recommend it.  If you look long and hard you should be able to find good retails for $70 home/pro/ultimate.

Hmm Really,
Ran an unlicensed copy of Windows 7 for YEARS, yes YEARS.. Updates just fine, no issue other than a black background and some text in the corner. Never even entered my license key and it still upgraded to Widows 8 with no issue other than Windows 8 itself being annoying.
ANYONE can pirate win 7 and only miss out on optional updates. No virus no malware no crash no nothing. No key needed. I ran it from Win7 release to win 8 with ZERO issues but the may be illegal messages. Every app ran just fine for years.
So your PRECISELY WRONG!

I have 5 pirated copies of Win 7 running with no problems at all. They look and act the same as the pre-installed Win 7 on my laptop.

Ok so check this out:

Now that virtualization is widestream and ms has made an operating system that actually *can*be installed on an amd machine and then later run on an intel without collapsing or needing to reinstall they are phasing out the retail (transferable) license.

Is this the ultimate troll or what?