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Title: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2015, 12:08:16 PM A new camera developed at MIT can photograph a trillion frames per second. Compare that with a traditional movie camera which takes a mere 24. This new advancement in photographic technology has given scientists the ability to photograph the movement of the fastest thing in the Universe, light. In the video below, you’ll see experimental footage of light photons traveling 600-million-miles-per-hour through water. The actual event occurred in a nano second, but the camera has the ability to slow it down to twenty seconds. For some perspective, according to New York Times writer, John Markoff, “If a bullet were tracked in the same fashion moving through the same fluid, the resulting movie would last three years.”
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1201217.msg12609910#msg12609910 Information: http://magazine.good.is/articles/super-fast-camera-works-at-light-speed?mbid=psocial_wired The video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8EtlBe8Ts :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: pawel7777 on October 06, 2015, 12:33:36 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'?
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Mickeyb on October 06, 2015, 12:44:09 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'? He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said? I don't think this would be able OP, there are much stronger computers out there and even they are not able to crack Bitcoin for 6.5 years. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: dre1982 on October 06, 2015, 12:55:41 PM Nice camera and nice vid about it, but I don't see how this could crack bitcoin.
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 06, 2015, 01:01:07 PM I think this camera is processing huge data and extremely high speed. However, it might not do much "calculation". I think it can't be used to do any mining or private key hacking....
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: n2004al on October 06, 2015, 01:15:30 PM A new camera developed at MIT can photograph a trillion frames per second. Compare that with a traditional movie camera which takes a mere 24. This new advancement in photographic technology has given scientists the ability to photograph the movement of the fastest thing in the Universe, light. In the video below, you’ll see experimental footage of light photons traveling 600-million-miles-per-hour through water. The actual event occurred in a nano second, but the camera has the ability to slow it down to twenty seconds. For some perspective, according to New York Times writer, John Markoff, “If a bullet were tracked in the same fashion moving through the same fluid, the resulting movie would last three years.” https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1201217.msg12609910#msg12609910 Information: http://magazine.good.is/articles/super-fast-camera-works-at-light-speed?mbid=psocial_wired The video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8EtlBe8Ts :) I am not at all a specialist in this field but I have read to many cases when someone has tried to crack the code of bitcoin. All have failed. I don't think that you will be able to crack this code. Because if you would be able to crack it, the bitcoin code it was cracked already. Someone who think that can crack the bitcoin code don't do posts in bitcointalk but act. :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Q7 on October 06, 2015, 01:30:21 PM Unless the technology that it uses to capture the image translates into some kind of super fast processing speed, I don't see how that would help. But even if it is made possible, it will still take a long time to actually crack the code. I think this has been discussed earlier about having quantum computers which pretty much is the same analogy to the example that you've given here.
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: zzaza on October 06, 2015, 01:31:34 PM Nah, it cant crack the bitcoin code, no matter how fast it can take the pictures
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: neoneros on October 06, 2015, 01:32:13 PM The camera as I understood it, does not photograph a trillion frames per second, it recreates a situation a trillion times and combines it into a series of images that appear to be a trillion frames per second. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16163931 (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16163931)
so the camera's processor does not have to be fast at all, the setup has to be correct and it takes about an hour to get all the shots, still impressive, a trillion shots per hour, but not as much as per second :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on October 06, 2015, 01:32:57 PM No!
I don't see in any way how this could crack the bitcoin code. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2015, 01:41:51 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'? He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said? I don't think this would be able OP, there are much stronger computers out there and even they are not able to crack Bitcoin for 6.5 years. My thought simply was along the lines of using split laser impulses like the camera does. If similar thinking were used with the super-fast computers, perhaps there is some way to test massive amounts of numbers all at the same time by applying the method for creating a visual image from various angles using reflected light. I don't have any idea about how to apply this to testing multitudes of random character groups. But there is a process in this whole idea that might be able to be converted by someone who thoroughly knows both the numbers character-testing technique and the camera technique. Perhaps I shouldn't be saying anything here. If someone listened to my posts, and took the idea to the right people, they just might be able to figure it out. For example, fast computers simply test one set of characters after another. What if they could test them in such a way that for any given set of characters being tested, an extended set based off each character in the original set could simultaneously be tested, using GPU combined with an ASIC combined with the laser camera process set up for characters rather than photography? I really don't know what I am aiming for, but I have a feeling that this might be able to be made to work. Actually, if it can be done, it would be better to do it now than to wait until Bitcoin is the world currency. :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2015, 01:49:12 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'? He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said? I don't think this would be able OP, there are much stronger computers out there and even they are not able to crack Bitcoin for 6.5 years. My thought simply was along the lines of using split laser impulses like the camera does. If similar thinking were used with the super-fast computers, perhaps there is some way to test massive amounts of numbers all at the same time by applying the method for creating a visual image from various angles using reflected light. I don't have any idea about how to apply this to testing multitudes of random character groups. But there is a process in this whole idea that might be able to be converted by someone who thoroughly knows both the numbers character-testing technique and the camera technique. Perhaps I shouldn't be saying anything here. If someone listened to my posts, and took the idea to the right people, they just might be able to figure it out. For example, fast computers simply test one set of characters after another. What if they could test them in such a way that for any given set of characters being tested, an extended set based off each character in the original set could simultaneously be tested, using GPU combined with an ASIC combined with the laser camera process set up for characters rather than photography? I really don't know what I am aiming for, but I have a feeling that this might be able to be made to work. Actually, if it can be done, it would be better to do it now than to wait until Bitcoin is the world currency. :) Of course, part of the reason that this should be done now is so that the same technology can be implemented into the blockchain for future encryption. We would be getting planar encryption rather than simply linear. Somewhere into the future we could get spacial encryption. And after quantum computers become a household word, we might even go for fourth dimension (time) encryption. Time encryption just might show us how to unravel time, so that we can view into the past when the technique is re-applied to photography. :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: spazzdla on October 06, 2015, 02:00:31 PM Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2015, 02:05:09 PM Nice camera, but how can this camera can crack bitcoin ? Processor on camera is designed only to process image, so it can't be used for other jobs even it's very fast. I still think quantum computer is better to crack bitcoin ::) If you had to use the photography process, why not post a plate that had all the encryption characters on it, in front of the camera laser beam, so that the beam could read the characters all at once, and use multiple laser beams to supply planar encryption readouts? A GPU would be used to control the activities of one or more ASICs in undreamed of ways. Bitcoin technology didn't happen overnight. There are systems and problems that would need to be worked out with this method. :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2015, 02:08:33 PM http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg No.. just no. You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way? :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: JeWay on October 06, 2015, 02:31:33 PM Well done MIT, you just invented a tool that has the possibility to crack Bitcoin code.
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: RodeoX on October 06, 2015, 02:35:51 PM Wow. That is friking amazing!
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: spazzdla on October 06, 2015, 02:51:43 PM http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg No.. just no. You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way? :) Do you even math bro? Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 06, 2015, 02:56:44 PM http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg No.. just no. You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way? :) This just can't be done. For example, 1+1=2. I think human knew this fact since very very very very long time ago, and it will always be correct. 1+1 will never be 3. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: shorena on October 06, 2015, 03:00:59 PM -snip- This just can't be done. For example, 1+1=2. I think human knew this fact since very very very very long time ago, and it will always be correct. 1+1 will never be 3. In |F2 1+1=0. Mabye we should first talk about what "crack the code" means. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: LiteCoinGuy on October 06, 2015, 03:13:40 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'? He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said? if that is the point OP wants to make: lol! Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Gleb Gamow on October 06, 2015, 03:22:00 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'? I see? Have several cameras set up so to track the Byzantine generals' runners, thus having a baring as to who's gonna crack the code first, then snatch the results. Genius! The only problem I see is that when this ideal gets out, the battlefield would then be populated with paparazzi disabling the movement of the runners, thus, again, further increasing the difficulty. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: spazzdla on October 06, 2015, 03:27:04 PM Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'? I see? Have several cameras set up so to track the Byzantine generals' runners, thus having a baring as to who's gonna crack the code first, then snatch the results. Genius! The only problem I see is that when this ideal gets out, the battlefield would then be populated with paparazzi disabling the movement of the runners, thus, again, further increasing the difficulty. LMAO, perfect response. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on October 06, 2015, 04:12:55 PM Camera have a features to solved the code and crack it, wow :o it's lol.
maybe it will be can use for revealed who is the flash :D Well bitcoin code is open source https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin :D Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: odolvlobo on October 06, 2015, 04:32:45 PM http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg No.. just no. You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way? LOL. Think about it for a second. If cameras could not photograph light waves a decade ago, then what did they photograph? Also, the camera being discussed here does not work the way people think it works. Do you know why wagon wheels look like they are turning backwards in old movies? That is how this camera works. Quote For some perspective, according to New York Times writer, John Markoff, “If a bullet were tracked in the same fashion moving through the same fluid, the resulting movie would last three years.” And they would have to fire a billion bullets. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: johnyj on October 06, 2015, 04:39:20 PM This is cheating :D
At first I thought: How is this possible when the speed of CMOS/CCD signal generation is much slower than the speed of light??? Then I watched the video, they were not capturing the whole process of light traveling through that bottle of water, but many different light traveling through the same bottle of water and combined different snapshots together to make an animation Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Guido on October 06, 2015, 04:45:52 PM @BADecker
very interesting links thanks Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Guido on October 06, 2015, 04:54:27 PM checked out the video
that was published 2 years ago!! wonder what they have now??? a week is a long time in technology Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: tiggytomb on October 06, 2015, 05:07:49 PM I was quite curious when I saw the header, I was thinking how on Earth can a camera crack the Bitcoin code then I read the op. Think a new Subject line would be more relevant, although the camera is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 06, 2015, 05:30:26 PM Two problems I have with that image, they imply the Sun is a sphere with their Dyson's Sphere power source when it's actually a concave disk, they re-enforce that the idea that the Sun is a massive object when it's only 32 miles across and their Bitcoin symbol is an upside-down cross. However, the point they make about the virtual impossibility of cracking Bitcoin is all good. I just don't like the agenda they seem to be pushing/re-enforcing subliminally. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Ceizer54 on October 06, 2015, 05:49:09 PM Ok so you are saying this camera is superfast and can take trillion of frames per second and as mentioned in your post can slow down the event so that normal human can see what actually has happened like in case of light but i still doesn't understand from your post how can this help in cracking the bitcoin code?
All the previous attempts have been failed and i seriously doubt someone at the MIT can code something like that to crack the bitcoin code :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: dothebeats on October 06, 2015, 06:39:18 PM Ok so you are saying this camera is superfast and can take trillion of frames per second and as mentioned in your post can slow down the event so that normal human can see what actually has happened like in case of light but i still doesn't understand from your post how can this help in cracking the bitcoin code? All the previous attempts have been failed and i seriously doubt someone at the MIT can code something like that to crack the bitcoin code :) Given that the camera can slow down a single event up to a trillion frames per second, then OP assumed that these special cameras have some super-fast processors, capable of doing complex mathematical computations required to crack bitcoin. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: bitbollo on October 06, 2015, 07:36:49 PM the camera can "create" trillion of frames from one single shot...
truly interesting for photo amateur, but even you can't try to crack the bitcoin code (what you want break like blockchain? wallet? doublespending? create a fork?), the sw can operate in this way, doesn't mean it can make in a single second "trillion" of operations... Even we can't caught the difference between this photo... likewise some electron has inverted the spin :P Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 06, 2015, 08:46:46 PM I believe the OP is trying to imply that one of the technology's spin-offs (seeing around corners) can be used to snag paper wallets and on-screen keys being viewed by users.
Correct? Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Nancarrow on October 06, 2015, 09:28:19 PM Two problems I have with that image, they imply the Sun is a sphere with their Dyson's Sphere power source when it's actually a concave disk, they re-enforce that the idea that the Sun is a massive object when it's only 32 miles across and their Bitcoin symbol is an upside-down cross. However, the point they make about the virtual impossibility of cracking Bitcoin is all good. I just don't like the agenda they seem to be pushing/re-enforcing subliminally. This response is such a perfect match to the intellectual level of the OP, I'm in awe. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 07, 2015, 02:03:23 AM they re-enforce that the idea that the Sun is a massive object when it's only 32 miles across The sun is only 32 miles across? Ehhhhh NO. More like 80,000 miles across. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: christycalhoun on October 07, 2015, 03:15:18 AM I doubt a cluster of those camera's processors could even crack bitcoin's code.
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Soros Shorts on October 07, 2015, 04:42:50 AM http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg No.. just no. You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way? :) Because you won't have enough photons of light to perform your trick? You need at least one photon for each possible solution. There are plenty of photons in the universe, but you'd be hard pressed to find even a fraction of 2^256 photons on earth within your life span. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Quickseller on October 07, 2015, 04:52:45 AM The camera would most likely need some kind of ASIC (Application Specific integrated-circuit) to process that many frames every second. But instead of calculating SHA-256 hashes the ASIC associated/attached to that camera will need to process whatever video format the camera is taking video with (eg .mp4, ect.).
The ASIC associated with that camera can be equated to a miner with a mining capacity of 1 TH/s, which is really not all that impressive. Although power consumption is not mentioned in the YouTube video, I do not doubt that the camera (and the ASIC to process all the frames) is going to eat up a lot of power, probably more then 500 watts per hour which would make it less efficient then the 2nd newest generation of Bitcoin miners out there Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: odolvlobo on October 07, 2015, 05:19:08 AM The camera would most likely need some kind of ASIC (Application Specific integrated-circuit) to process that many frames every second. Ok, I recommend that you read the article to see how it is actually done. Nobody is processing a trillion frames per second. The camera is not even recording a trillion frames per second. Quote It’s impossible to directly record light so the camera takes millions of scans to recreate each image. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 07, 2015, 05:53:15 AM they re-enforce that the idea that the Sun is a massive object when it's only 32 miles across The sun is only 32 miles across? Ehhhhh NO. More like 80,000 miles across. Using a sextant I can prove that the Sun is in fact only 32 miles across. What proof do you have that the Sun is 80k miles across? Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Kakmakr on October 07, 2015, 06:22:47 AM You have to remember every job, needs a different tool. The camera you mentioned has a processor developed for only one function and that is to process those light images to digital images. The processors created for mining, called ASIC's are 100% developed to solve the complex mathematical calculations for Bitcoin mining and are much better for that job.
So you will have the wrong tool for the job, when you use that processor. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Betwrong on October 07, 2015, 07:54:31 AM they re-enforce that the idea that the Sun is a massive object when it's only 32 miles across The sun is only 32 miles across? Ehhhhh NO. More like 80,000 miles across. Using a sextant I can prove that the Sun is in fact only 32 miles across. What proof do you have that the Sun is 80k miles across? A scientist who in 1899 claimed the diameter of the Sun is only 32 miles said this: "The sun is only 32 miles across and not more than 3,000 miles from Earth" And I don't blame him because it was long before all the space missions which proved that at the distance 3,000 miles from Earth there is no Sun. And after measuring with a sextant he said: "'The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles" Which is also not true according to data provided by NASA. But I can see your point (I am saying this without irony), NASA is maybe lying, right? I don't think NASA is lying but that is just my opinion, I may be wrong. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 07, 2015, 08:28:35 AM they re-enforce that the idea that the Sun is a massive object when it's only 32 miles across The sun is only 32 miles across? Ehhhhh NO. More like 80,000 miles across. Using a sextant I can prove that the Sun is in fact only 32 miles across. What proof do you have that the Sun is 80k miles across? A scientist who in 1899 claimed the diameter of the Sun is only 32 miles said this: "The sun is only 32 miles across and not more than 3,000 miles from Earth" And I don't blame him because it was long before all the space missions which proved that at the distance 3,000 miles from Earth there is no Sun. And after measuring with a sextant he said: "'The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles" Which is also not true according to data provided by NASA. But I can see your point (I am saying this without irony), NASA is maybe lying, right? I don't think NASA is lying but that is just my opinion, I may be wrong. Well it's up to you what you prefer to believe. The reading a sextant gives or 3rd party information from an agency formed after WW2 from operation paperclip where they imported all the Nazis and gave them high paying jobs and positions of power within the US gov. Political propaganda/psyop or reading the numbers off a gauge, the choice is yours. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 07, 2015, 09:29:05 AM no offense but that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ive ever heard.
Copernican Revolution goes back 500 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_Revolution unless you believe the earth DOESNT revolve around the sun, the sun has to be much much more massive than the earth based on the laws of gravity. That's just common sense. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2015, 02:10:56 PM You have to remember every job, needs a different tool. The camera you mentioned has a processor developed for only one function and that is to process those light images to digital images. The processors created for mining, called ASIC's are 100% developed to solve the complex mathematical calculations for Bitcoin mining and are much better for that job. So you will have the wrong tool for the job, when you use that processor. The ASIC(s) would be required to crunch the numbers. A GPU (or maybe another ASIC) would be required to direct the ASIC(s) according to the camera and laser activity. The software, of course, isn't written, yet. Suppose you had a linear group of characters that was continually changing as it was checked by the ASIC: Code: 8fluEqLYeFMkD97r366g32zBL6hER88eEJffJ8jNqA7cSKN00I4L9qD1s796R3sX7No8MicLXvjyw0nkb Now imagine that at the same time this group was being checked, there was another group off each character in this group. The top row in the box, below is the same as the above box. Code: 8fluEqLYeFMkD97r366g32zBL6hER88eEJffJ8jNqA7cSKN00I4L9qD1s796R3sX7No8MicLXvjyw0nkb The example is for visual purposes. It is not accurate regarding the exact way the programming would work, nor the exact characters that would be in any plane. The example simply depicts a type of programming would be needed to instantly check a whole plane of possibilities, each group branching off each character in the original linear group. Depending how many depths one would want to go, there could be a planes off each downward linear group above. We would also have the horizontal linears of all the planes involved. Such could be extended as many levels as desired, making several ASICs work together at once using the trick the camera exploited. I know this is a crude explanation. And I don't have the knowledge for expressing it any better. But the result would be that rather than checking the first batch of 81 characters in the first box above, all of the sets would be able to be checked at once, those in the second box, and any subsequent boxes/levels that the programmers wanted to add off the second box, etc. The result would be that a present miner could "re-route" his dozens of ASICs, and crack the present encryption in relatively short order as it now stands. Of course, the encryption would be made more difficult to compensate, but there might be a point where complication would become impractical because of the increased size of the numbers of characters being manipulated to keep the blockchain safe. Then, imagine what it would be like if the system were used in quantum computers. :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 07, 2015, 02:34:08 PM no offense but that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ive ever heard. Copernican Revolution goes back 500 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_Revolution unless you believe the earth DOESNT revolve around the sun, the sun has to be much much more massive than the earth based on the laws of gravity. That's just common sense. The Earth is flat, the Moon and Sun orbit above. EDIT: We're drifting way off topic here. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2015, 02:47:53 PM no offense but that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ive ever heard. Copernican Revolution goes back 500 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_Revolution unless you believe the earth DOESNT revolve around the sun, the sun has to be much much more massive than the earth based on the laws of gravity. That's just common sense. The Earth is flat, the Moon and Sun orbit above. EDIT: We're drifting way off topic here. However, there are only a few groups that have any real, live access to whatever information comes from the spacecraft and satellites that go up there. All the physics that we have has to do with math and experimentation done on earth... except for the stuff that is privy to the actual groups that send up the satellites, etc. Since all the physics experiments done on earth have only been done HERE, how do we know that we are NOT missing some great group of factors that change things once we get thousands of miles above the earth? Only the groups that control the telemetry of and the readings from the spacecraft would know. And who knows if they are truthful or complete in their telling of what they know? In other words, things might be extremely different - even the physics - once we get way out there. Just a thought. :) Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 07, 2015, 03:38:28 PM You can pay Richard Branson some bitcoins and go to space, and see for yourself the earth is round.
Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: odolvlobo on October 07, 2015, 05:23:51 PM no offense but that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ive ever heard. The Earth is flat, the Moon and Sun orbit above.Copernican Revolution goes back 500 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_Revolution unless you believe the earth DOESNT revolve around the sun, the sun has to be much much more massive than the earth based on the laws of gravity. That's just common sense. EDIT: We're drifting way off topic here. I impressed by the number of people you have trolled here. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 07, 2015, 08:11:03 PM You can pay Richard Branson some bitcoins and go to space, and see for yourself the earth is round. No need, I can prove the Earth is flat with a telephoto lens. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: notbatman on October 07, 2015, 08:27:39 PM no offense but that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ive ever heard. The Earth is flat, the Moon and Sun orbit above.Copernican Revolution goes back 500 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_Revolution unless you believe the earth DOESNT revolve around the sun, the sun has to be much much more massive than the earth based on the laws of gravity. That's just common sense. EDIT: We're drifting way off topic here. I impressed by the number of people you trolled here. Nobody's touched my on-topic post yet! A camera that can see around corners (spin-off technology from this super fast camera) is a security concern not just for Bitcoin private keys but has widespread implications. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: Nancarrow on October 07, 2015, 08:44:43 PM Holy fuck, these scientitians (http://"http://www.planet-science.com/categories/under-11s/our-world/2012/06/make-a-periscope.aspx") have just BROKEN BITCOIN!
ETA: nevermind, I was too hasty. It's not a camera. But.... omg I hope they don't figure out how to attach a camera. Then Bitcoin is DOOMED. Title: Re: Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code? Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 07, 2015, 09:05:32 PM no offense but that is the dumbest conspiracy theory ive ever heard. The Earth is flat, the Moon and Sun orbit above.Copernican Revolution goes back 500 years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernican_Revolution unless you believe the earth DOESNT revolve around the sun, the sun has to be much much more massive than the earth based on the laws of gravity. That's just common sense. EDIT: We're drifting way off topic here. I impressed by the number of people you trolled here. I'm easily trolled. I believe this guy really believes the earth is flat. |
