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Someone (ok, Toke) asked how BitShares was going to attract users earlier this week.
I told him to watch for a Forbes article on that subject by the time I get back from the Shanghai Blockchain Summit next week.

None of these are what I was talking about.  :)

You had me at hello, awaiting the "real" news.

No bullshit, how confident are you that this can be executed?

Looks good.  And very convenient for the smaller exchanges to join them and have their 'players' combined into one big 'player pool'.  Online trading is almost a video game nowadays btw...

I hope the UI is really good.

Stan...call me a suspicious person, but how can Remittio Ltd. announce a partnership with Banx Capital when the Banx Group already owns half of Remittio Ltd., and has done since its founding 3 weeks ago ?

https://www.pressadvantage.com/story/4422-remittio-announces-partnership-with-banx-capital
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09792725

And how come Mark L doesn't get any love in the press release ?

EDIT:
And who exactly is this Michael Taggart dude who owns the other half of Remittio Ltd., if you don't mind me asking ?

Yeah.  Why not just come out straight.  What's the difference?  Maybe tax cuts purposes.. or something? 

We've got so many partners that we don't always get time to coordinate everything - although we do try to cross reference each other as much as possible.

Nevertheless, I just posted a bitcointalk exclusive (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1203137.msg12655020#msg12655020) (until I copied it to bitsharestalk) that mentioned a different combo of companies that did include Banx.io in a list of OpenLedger Exchange Network members.

I've got to catch up on Remittio.  It should have been in one of our Indian Summer Announcements!

So, nothing to see here, move along...

:)

Michael Taggart is one of the most fiendishly powerful internet marketers I have even known.  Met him in St Martin over a year ago.  He's the guy that gets our news releases syndicated in hundreds of outlets among very many other amazing things.

Do you mean these news releases you got so excited about a couple of months or so ago ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091351.msg11873532#msg11873532
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1117265.msg11873488#msg11873488
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1117265.msg11877056#msg11877056

That's just a standard package, Stan, there's nothing special or fiendishly powerful there.....and it doesn't even help SEO, apparently.
http://authoritylabs.com/blog/googles-matt-cutts-says-press-releases-dont-have-seo-value-or-do-they/

Check this lot out, you can cut out MT and save yourselves some cash:
http://fitsmallbusiness.com/best-press-release-service/


EDIT: Oh, almost forgot, want to answer my questions about Mark L ?

Um, because it's a CCEDK press release?

As for Michael, you haven't seen even 5% of what he does for us.

:)

Well, seeing as he's running both Remittio and LottoShares as well as his BTS duties, I imagine he's a busy guy.

And,yeah, I do know that CCEDK organises a lot of your high-profile press, not Michael T,
but you must have at least some idea of what's happening within the businesses that are supposed to be running on OpenLedger.

Let me see if I have the list right:

CCEDK
Banx.io
Banx Capital
Banx Platinum
Banx Technology
Banx Mint
Peak Venture
BunkerShares
LottoShares
Remittio

Anything I missed ?

I'm sure lots of stuff gets by me since anyone can do this without help, but here's some off the top of my head.

ANNOUNCED EXCHANGES
CCEDK
BANX.io
BunkerShares

RECENTLY ANNOUNCED USER ISSUED ASSETS (See wallets for complete list.)
BunkerShares
BanxShares
LottoShares
Remittio

ANNOUNCED INDUSTRY SPECIFIC BLOCKCHAIN PLATFORMS
BitShares - Exchange
MUSE - Music
Identabit - Banking

ANNOUNCED APPLICATIONS
DACx on BitShares
OpenLedger on BitShares
PeerTracks on MUSE
Remitabit on Identabit

There are others pending announcement.

Thanks, Stan. Makes stuff a bit clearer.

Dude, as you have posted proudly about pretty much all of the above projects, I kind of doubt that statement. ;)
 

Looks good, looks good...  I hope you guys roll out a fine product.

Here we go everyone's got a chance now until these guys get too big.

laymans pls

So two-thirds of the "businesses" (lol) are run by that white trash porno pervert and convicted drug dealing felon?

thank you bought 95$ worth


ELI5  10/10


EDIT: wait so how much do you think i should put in, i have 150$ in bitcoins to play around with

What is so special for the new BitShare 2.0 version compared to the previous one? Just wondering, if it is worth to invest in.

About new features you can read here: https://bitshares.org/technology

I wasn't aware you could invest & trade in the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgenderl community through Banx, why didn't Max Keiser think of this?  ???

https://i.imgur.com/kOFuvah.png

Is it the next iteration of those 'Bitshares' as in that decentralized organization linked below?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html)


So will there be 'Brownie Points2.0' also? YUMMIE!  ;D

Brownie points are a clever way for me and my homies to print money out of thin air.

We will merge these into bts3.0

Applesauce bitches.

Trolls are in Panic Mode!  :D

https://i.imgur.com/BPDXxey.jpg

16 Hours left...  https://bitshares.org/

Here's another Forbes article...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2015/10/12/meet-cryptonomexs-dan-larimer-and-his-four-horsemen-of-crypto-economics/

Looking forward to seeing OpenLedger in action.

^ Best comment from a NXT supporter imo.

I have nothing against NXT but I've noticed its supporters love to attack Bitshres when what they really should be doing is focusing on advertising their own platform.  NXT market cap is falling while the Bitshares people are busy making partnerships and are working hard on developing a new (and hopefully good) product.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think the NXT supporters are butthurt.  Sorry for the direct honesty guys...

Pffff... give me a break.  Partnerships with who?  Commies and porno perverts?

Good product?  That's laughable.

Yes!  This is the one I promised Toke in the OP!

:)

https://youtu.be/1rg8oIuov80?t=1769

Cool. Thanks.

Yep... you're right on a lot of that.
Nxt has traditionally had fairly crap marketing, but there is a proposal in the works to change that:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/%28marketing-business-and-development%29-the-tennessee-project-fundraiser/
Funnily enough, BTS helped to inspire this initiative.

The problem with Nxt and BTS, from my POV:  both projects seem to be occupying the same crypto space, have been running in parallel for a long time and there is some overlap between them (not as much as some people think, though).
But: there is a massive difference in core philosophy between the two projects.
It's like having a survivalist compound and a hippy commune next to each other......there will be friction.

Not every Nxter is totally anti-BTS, most of the community have no real ill-will towards BTS......with a couple of vocal exceptions. :o
Personally, I was always relaxed about BTS, but enjoyed taking the piss a little bit. This changed once BanxShares turned up:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091855.msg11655260#msg11655260
I knew that Banx was dirty back in June, yet both Stan Larimer and Bitcoinjesus2.0 jumped in to defend them.
I could not f**king believe that anyone could even try to defend Banx on the trading volume issue, it was so obviously wrong.

Since then, Bitcoinjesus has deleted his Banx defence posts, btw. At least Stan has the backbone to man up and allow his defence to stand.
But he's still wrong on Banx, and Banx need to kicked out of BTS, for  BTS' sake if nothing else.

My last point of BTS criticism:
I really do not like Stans marketing strategy for BTS.
It's too much fluff, and not enough real stuff happening, and I will prick holes in it every time I see a problem. Sorry, but that's how it goes. Stan's welcome to do the same for me  ;D

I'm happy to go on record now with this: BTS is probably a legitimate project,  but they need to be careful about who they enthusiastically welcome on to their platform.
You can't ban projects from an open platform like Nxt or BTS, but you also can't actively defend dodgy shit and expect to not suffer consequences.
I've been through some of this shit with Nxt, and the BTS community needs to figure out where they stand on the Banx issue, for their own good.
And be more subtle with the shilling, please, Stan.

wat tis dis http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-commercial-sidechain-bitcoin-exchanges/

Good stuff, but nothing to do with this topic. It's a sort of private sidechain highway allowing transfers of fat stacks of BTC between five BTC businesses.

Are they able to control the market or no?

Thank you. :)

I have never understood the whole in-fighting amongst cryptos, unless it's powered by something as base as greed.
There is no other reason to level the amount of sheer jaw-dropping hate and malevolence at another project that I can think of that would make sense.

There is no "NXT supporter", just as there is no "BTS supporter". To generalise in such a way is both denigrating to the wide diversity of people working in both our platforms and misrepresenting the situation.
It also leads to ridiculous conspiracy theories about shady groups paying other shady people off to FUD, where a simple Occam's Razor would tell us that it's much more likely SOME people are butthurt and/or nervous.

If a project (either NXT or BTS or ETH) doesn't work or overpromises, the only thing that needs to be done is simply wait until the thing falls down. The venom that pervades BCT is one of the main reasons sane people distrust cryptos in the first place. We are doing ourselves a massive disservice by not once counting to ten and considering how our words hurt the very platforms we are trying to support.

Anyway, preaching hour over. Good luck in what must be a nervous time for everyone involved. Launching things never is easy.

So how was the launch?  Any updates?

If there's one thing BTS and NXT seem to have in common, it's this.

>Update launches

>Price Falls

'Buy the rumour, sell the news'

is a well known traders axiom. It's the buzz in the lead-up to something happening that gets the price rising and the traders coming in.
As traders have, by definition, no loyalty to any one system and only care about realising their profits, the best time for traders to get out with a guaranteed profit is about 5 minutes before the buzz ends and reality sets in. Sucks for investors, but it's true.

It's just the way it is.

Or it could be Larimer and Larimer and Co. dumping on everyone.

Does BTS 2.0 work? Or not so much? Strangely quiet.

Hell yeah it works. We're getting rich.


Now who wants some applesauce points?

Quiet?
Look here https://bitsharestalk.org
 :)

I want to thank testz for all of the hard testing work that went into our flawless 2.0 launch. Here's 10 applesauce points..

It does appear that BTS forgot to directly notify exchanges about the swap, though, so the mess there is kind of down to them:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19042.0.html

Thanks man. That's a lot of new information and I'm new to it. I downloaded the the Linux source last night and gave it a quick look and it was not intuitive to how to set up the wallet and contribute to some of the things that would be beneficial to the community. I'll post a couple of stupid questions over on that forum when able.

BTS could have just directly told exchanges about it a week or 3 before the swap/change/update.
Assuming that exchanges are keeping up with any particular projects development just makes everyones lives harder.

It's not that hard to just mail exchanges some info and offer support (if needed) for the update.

To be honest, update was coordinated with delegates and delegate participation rate drop to 30% right after the snapshot, but even at chain with so small delegate participation rate Bittrex and few other exchanges keep process deposit/withdraw.
Everybody was quite confident that if even some exchanges somehow miss 4 weeks notice, they will stop deposit/withdraw automatically and nothing bad will happened.

Who are these 71 delegates that are getting paid and doing nothing? How are they still voted in?

How much BTS do they get per month again? I remember at one point Nikolai quit Google(?) or something to be a delegate and I think I remember him saying he got around $2k in BTS per month, but that was a while ago and it's probably not a current number.

Do you have delegates that fulfill particular roles like a 'communications' delegate that does the job of communcating changes to the community and the business related to it(like exchanges)?

Probably you misunderstand my previous post, delegate participation rate drop from 100% to 30%.
For all other questions, welcome to https://bitsharestalk.org  :)

Oh, I just re-read it and I think I get it now. You meant the old version fork only had 30% delegate participation and if someone understood how Bitshares works it should have been obvious that it was the wrong chain. Is that closer?

It's exactly what I'm trying to say. Sorry for confusing.

Sorry, I've been kinda busy over in China during the launch.

See my Blockchain Summit Report (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1212918.0) thread for all the details.

It's ok.  How was the launch though?

No major problems but a few glitches.
Fortunately I was somewhere over the north pole at the time inbound to Shanghai, so I can claim plausible deniability for them.

Rofl.  What?