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Title: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Jhanzo on October 12, 2015, 02:00:11 PM
updated. please refer to this post > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206631.msg14460311#msg14460311


I received a PM from confirmation120 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357365).
Enjoy all the negative feedback idiot next time dont post where your opinion means shit.

now I see 5 new negative feedbacks on my trust page, all were given on a same date.

I believe all of those accounts are owned by the same person.
proof: archives of Relex's (https://archive.is/PyRjT), Firedude's (https://archive.is/7JjnF), Snoopy1's (https://archive.is/aRipK) and bitcoin1900's (https://archive.is/BxhPN) profile pages. as you can see all of them were last active around the same time.


thanks.  :)


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Quickseller on October 12, 2015, 04:29:17 PM
lol, yea the random negative trust ratings kind of give it away.

I don't think the last logged in time means very much though


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Jhanzo on October 13, 2015, 02:40:47 AM
lol, yea the random negative trust ratings kind of give it away.

I don't think the last logged in time means very much though

well at least it means something.
if it says they were last active "Today, XXX" instead of "October 11st, XXX" then I would have thought carefully before posting them because it can be faked very easily.

I think confirmation120 have more alts, though I can't find any good proof of this. I'll post here later when I find one.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Jhanzo on April 07, 2016, 09:01:36 PM
I should've searched more thoroughly...  :-\

Patatas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=385855), Laosai (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152398), Shibashi Dogemoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362391), phibay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153226), mr.coinstrader (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=304046) and hardtime (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513024) might be alts of confirmation120 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357365).


Shield (bless the guy) have posted partial proof for Patatas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=385855), Laosai (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152398), Shibashi Dogemoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362391), phibay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=153226), and mr.coinstrader (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=304046) so let me quote his post.

Here are some alts of Laosai
Patatas
phibay
Shibashi Dogemoto
mr.coinstrader
=> (More Coming soon)


Tx ID
https://blockchain.info/tx/2c0d76d09ba5ac1f5aa4c0ec4a74dce336c00fbd3ec8b8e43fa43e836e77e5eb
https://blockchain.info/tx/e69c5befb0e8ed3e37c4593cc28a8751739b1925970a4466dadbc5b3a1a77c00


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11849004#msg11849004
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12342356#msg12342356
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12394425#msg12394425
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg12337215#msg12337215
https://archive.is/CPy3Z


according to mexxer-2 the owner also admitted it.
Added even the owner admits that they are indeed his alts.



here's their addresses for the people who are a little too lazy.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/144HTkhYiVc9M4eAjEgHt6QnW4EtivuNsU/links < Shibashi Dogemoto
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1JEsoqQ96hihSGNCZNvopQyZpF2iiCqfnD/links < phibay
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1LX5Hw2M1npWVQe14pKM6myPtvzWt5ZQ5o/links < Patatas
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP/links < Laosai
1NcPcjhVdDn1XvPq7M5CdKryvTv8GA3Qhx (https://archive.is/CPy3Z) < mr.coinstrader

transaction linking those five > https://blockchain.info/tx/a330521e011dddeb526badd77a06d19cc4d2af59d44ae0f7e154abb96b098b86




now there's only 2 left. hardtime and confirmation120
169fiDKtyVmMjPRrEP25SSecmywFXfb3CZ (https://archive.is/M8jPO#selection-2995.0-3013.31) < hardtime
1Lynzp5sZ2oVFVgsuNcfv8XA63wzNTtCAQ (https://archive.is/OrWrL#selection-2937.0-2947.51) < confirmation120

transaction linking Shibashi Dogemoto to hardtime
https://blockchain.info/tx/cc79ae2a1b078b589ab8c9319f09a671082deb63135ef52bbb51431101a031a7
transaction linking phibay and patatas to confirmation120
https://blockchain.info/tx/0c384a7f1aebad42d128308e366ff8d857462d6df351d234f98630c1d5fb537e


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Patatas on April 07, 2016, 09:11:37 PM
I should've searched more thoroughly...  :-\

Patatas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=385855),
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152398)

What ? lol You do suck at finding Alt's boy.Do your homework more carefully.There are other constraints you should know about the forum.
1.The accounts could be sold at the forum .
2.New addresses could be staked.
3.Random guesses don't mean shit.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Jhanzo on April 07, 2016, 09:13:42 PM
I should've searched more thoroughly...  :-\

Patatas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=385855),
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152398)

What ? lol You do suck at finding Alt's boy.Do your homework more carefully.There are other constraints you should know about the forum.
1.The accounts could be sold at the forum .
2.New addresses could be staked.
3.Random guesses don't mean shit.

oh yeah? well most of those addresses were used around the same time. and it's not a guess because I posted proof.
note that I said "might" because it seems like mr.coinstrader and Laosai was sold.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: shorena on April 07, 2016, 09:29:45 PM
I should've searched more thoroughly...  :-\

Patatas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=385855),
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152398)

What ? lol You do suck at finding Alt's boy.Do your homework more carefully.There are other constraints you should know about the forum.
1.The accounts could be sold at the forum .
2.New addresses could be staked.
3.Random guesses don't mean shit.

I will ignore 2. and 3. as they have no meaning here. If you are saying you bought the account, do you have a signed message? The TX linked by Jhanzo is the finally one for all addresses so its possible that it was some sort of cash out.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Lutpin on April 07, 2016, 09:36:16 PM
note that I said "might" because it seems like mr.coinstrader and Laosai was sold.
So was Patatas according to my information.
I know who currently holds the account (won't disclose it though, as being told in confidence, maybe the user wants to do that himself),
and I'd say the chances are close to 0 that person is connected to confirmation120.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Quickseller on April 07, 2016, 09:39:07 PM
I won't ever leave a negative rating for someone being an alt of a scammer unless I know with certainty that the account was not sold since the address was posted, and that I know with certainty that the scammer is not trying to frame an innocent person.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Patatas on April 07, 2016, 09:39:27 PM
I will ignore 2. and 3. as they have no meaning here. If you are saying you bought the account, do you have a signed message? The TX linked by Jhanzo is the finally one for all addresses so its possible that it was some sort of cash out.

This is pretty sad coming from a member like you,giving negative feedback without investigating the matter.As I have clearly mentioned ,I had purchased the account from one of the members listed above in the list ,it doesn't link me to any of them anymore.You could simply wait for me to post proofs about the account sale without abusing your trust power before hearing both sides of the story.Requesting you to remove the feedback ,proofs will be presented as you want .What do you want to conform this account is not linked to them anymore ?


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: shorena on April 07, 2016, 09:43:21 PM
I will ignore 2. and 3. as they have no meaning here. If you are saying you bought the account, do you have a signed message? The TX linked by Jhanzo is the finally one for all addresses so its possible that it was some sort of cash out.

This is pretty sad coming from a member like you,giving negative feedback without investigating the matter.As I have clearly mentioned ,I had purchased the account from one of the members listed above in the list ,it doesn't link me to any of them anymore.You could simply wait for me to post proofs about the account sale without abusing your trust power before hearing both sides of the story.Requesting you to remove the feedback ,proofs will be presented as you want .What do you want to conform this account is not linked to them anymore ?

What do you have that can convince me of the transfer?

Based on the word of QS and Lutpin I will temporarily remove the rating as I need some sleep now. Send me a PM if you want to keep it private.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Jhanzo on April 07, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
So was Patatas according to my information.
I know who currently holds the account (won't disclose it though, as being told in confidence, maybe the user wants to do that himself),
and I'd say the chances are close to 0 that person is connected to confirmation120.

then why didn't you leave a neutral like you did to mr.coinstrader?

but no matter. Patatas and the others can prove that the account was sold after the scam by providing a PM proof of the trade of their accounts.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Lutpin on April 07, 2016, 09:49:04 PM
then why didn't you leave a neutral like you did to mr.coinstrader?
Confusing me with mexxer-2, are we?

oops. I mean Laosai.
Because I was told in confidence.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Jhanzo on April 07, 2016, 09:50:19 PM
then why didn't you leave a neutral like you did to mr.coinstrader?
Confusing me with mexxer-2, are we?

oops. I mean Laosai.

Because I was told in confidence.

ah, I see.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: shorena on April 08, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
So was Patatas according to my information.
I know who currently holds the account (won't disclose it though, as being told in confidence, maybe the user wants to do that himself),
and I'd say the chances are close to 0 that person is connected to confirmation120.

then why didn't you leave a neutral like you did to mr.coinstrader?

but no matter. Patatas and the others can prove that the account was sold after the scam by providing a PM proof of the trade of their accounts.

Patatas still didnt manage to come up with anything solid. Edit: Patatas provided similar information now.

I have removed the rating to Shibashi Dogemoto as they had a signed message from escrow for the trade. I couldnt verify it as for some reason the keys didnt match, but they provided enough other information that Im pretty sure there was a trade after the connection was made.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Jhanzo on April 08, 2016, 07:26:34 PM
to be completely frank I didn't care if they're sold or not when I posted the update (otherwise I wouldn't have added the users with neutral feedback saying they were sold). but judging from the posts here I see that the community are being more lenient about this kind of thing than before. I'll take that into consideration in the future.  ;)


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Patatas on April 08, 2016, 07:32:41 PM
to be completely frank I didn't care if they're sold or not when I posted the update (otherwise I wouldn't have added the users with neutral feedback saying they were sold). but judging from the posts here I see that the community are being more lenient about this kind of thing than before. I'll take that into consideration in the future.  ;)

still. they should be tagged as bought account because of obvious reasons.

No,the point is,it does waste time of people involved and probably of the DT members as well (considering they do "value their time") ,if "you didn't care" weather the accounts were  sold or not,you shouldn't have linked them in the first place.Thanks for wasting 15 minutes of my precious time .I'm out,have fun.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Jhanzo on April 08, 2016, 07:36:37 PM
No,the point is,it does waste time of people involved and probably of the DT members as well (considering they do "value their time") ,if "you didn't care" weather the accounts were  sold or not,you shouldn't have linked them in the first place.Thanks for wasting 15 minutes of my precious time .I'm out,have fun.

I think you misunderstood my post. read again.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Laosai on April 12, 2016, 01:16:55 PM
Hello,

First thing first: you could maybe start by warning people by pm before leaving neg trust to them. Maybe they could defend themselves.

Second: Laosai might have been an alt of confirmation120 but the account was sold to me before you tagged it. I bought it a few months ago, it's an alt of the account flagpara. Signed message coming just after.

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The new owner of this account is flagpara, Feb 5, 2016
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

IP1/CpCn5cIE1fwk8K72EJZexWeBR+3sVreEHVqlDk2xVQOIqBBTJ74HAyjKfPdPGlCDvUuBw7M3vA5QbzhbqAY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Jhanzo on April 12, 2016, 03:59:21 PM
Hello,

First thing first: you could maybe start by warning people by pm before leaving neg trust to them. Maybe they could defend themselves.

Second: Laosai might have been an alt of confirmation120 but the account was sold to me before you tagged it. I bought it a few months ago, it's an alt of the account flagpara. Signed message coming just after.

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The new owner of this account is flagpara, Feb 5, 2016
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

IP1/CpCn5cIE1fwk8K72EJZexWeBR+3sVreEHVqlDk2xVQOIqBBTJ74HAyjKfPdPGlCDvUuBw7M3vA5QbzhbqAY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

are you saying that flagpara sold you that account or that you are flagpara? the signed message timestamp (Feb 5, 2016) was just two days before you got tagged by lutpin.


Title: Re: Relex, Firedude, Snoopy1 and bitcoin1900 are all alts of confirmation120.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 12, 2016, 08:02:51 PM
note that I said "might" because it seems like mr.coinstrader and Laosai was sold.
So was Patatas according to my information.
I know who currently holds the account (won't disclose it though, as being told in confidence, maybe the user wants to do that himself),
and I'd say the chances are close to 0 that person is connected to confirmation120.

Is the OP of this this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1249761.msg12975261#msg12975261 - related to either ones of yous? If Patatas did purchase this account, then it was on November 14, 2015, that he started using it as its new owner given the writing style changed on this day.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Laosai on April 13, 2016, 01:09:17 PM
Hello,

First thing first: you could maybe start by warning people by pm before leaving neg trust to them. Maybe they could defend themselves.

Second: Laosai might have been an alt of confirmation120 but the account was sold to me before you tagged it. I bought it a few months ago, it's an alt of the account flagpara. Signed message coming just after.

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
The new owner of this account is flagpara, Feb 5, 2016
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1LyDN6jnwcaWRo13V8rUBjmQ7AYqfqWrpP

IP1/CpCn5cIE1fwk8K72EJZexWeBR+3sVreEHVqlDk2xVQOIqBBTJ74HAyjKfPdPGlCDvUuBw7M3vA5QbzhbqAY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

are you saying that flagpara sold you that account or that you are flagpara? the signed message timestamp (Feb 5, 2016) was just two days before you got tagged by lutpin.

I am flagpara. Want a message from that acount too?


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Jhanzo on April 13, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
I am flagpara. Want a message from that acount too?

nope. just a clarification is enough for me. though if you want to, be my guest.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Laosai on April 13, 2016, 04:33:12 PM
I am flagpara. Want a message from that acount too?

nope. just a clarification is enough for me. though if you want to, be my guest.
I'd like to. But how do you find an adress you posted on the forum?
The search tool of the forum isn't very specific.


Title: Re: UPDATED! alts of confirmation120
Post by: Jhanzo on April 13, 2016, 04:36:17 PM
I am flagpara. Want a message from that acount too?

nope. just a clarification is enough for me. though if you want to, be my guest.
I'd like to. But how do you find an adress you posted on the forum?
The search tool of the forum isn't very specific.

there's no feature feature for that AFAIK. however you can use knightdk's site (http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/) to find the list of posted addresses.