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This is a bad idea. Coinbase is asking for your password when it want to access your bank account. Do not use!

There are two methods, the "instant" method requires that you provide username and password (and PIN, if needed) to your bank account.

I'm confused (by the instant method).

 1. Are you really supposed to hand over your full banking credentials to a third party? What would your bank say about that?

 1. Are you really supposed to hand over your full banking credentials to a third party? What would your bank say about that?

2. Don't banks in the US use two factor authentication?

Asking for that seems a pretty good way to be tagged as "Internet scam". Suppose they manage to leak the password list somehow.

In Germany there is a pretty popular payment gateway which asks for your banking credentials , you even login in your bank account through their site and make the purchase with your data. It is easy, fast and secure. I don't have any information about the coinbase process but if its similar and secured with ssl its no more risky than your normal online banking.

In Germany there is a pretty popular payment gateway which asks for your banking credentials , you even login in your bank account through their site and make the purchase with your data. It is easy, fast and secure. I don't have any information about the coinbase process but if its similar and secured with ssl its no more risky than your normal online banking.

Quick edit : Most of you guys in the forum seem to have a poor sense of judgement regarding money related things. I feel often like you protect the wrong people and discredit the good guys. and i had no good experience with coinbase.

1. Are you really supposed to hand over your full banking credentials to a third party? What would your bank say about that?

Are you sure that you are actually giving your credentials to the payment gateway?

What would your bank say about that?

No, Coinbase is asking for the username, password and ... whatever else is needed for them (or an automated agent) to login to your bank account (e.g., a Login PIN for some banks).

Suppose they manage to leak the password list somehow.

We felt we could do it securely.  For example we never store the bank credentials (username, password, etc) in our own database, and we take care to filter it from logs, etc.

We offer the second option, “Challenge Deposit Verification”, as a fallback if you aren’t comfortable with entering your bank credentials.  

It’s the default in the U.S. for services like Paypal so people are somewhat familiar with it.

After you create your PayPal Account, we'll ask you to link your bank account, debit card, or credit card. Then, you can start using PayPal right away.

If you want instant access you give up private info,

So has anyone completed this process?  

I looked at it with one of my accounts, for a small credit union, and they didn't recognize the ABA number, so that now requires the Challenge Deposit method.   I won't use Instant for my other account, but I'm curious to know it others have finished the steps successfully and are just waiting on coins now?

I do see that the price is fantastic.  Like right now there was a little dip, and I would have been able to lock in coins at just 1% over Mt. Gox Last (which is what Coinbase appears to be using).  That's less than most methods for moving USD funds between exchanges (e..g, using Liberty Reserve, or a redeemable code and paying the fee).   So this service will likely come in handy for those doing arbitrage as well.

So has anyone completed this process?  

I looked at it with one of my accounts, for a small credit union, and they didn't recognize the ABA number, so that now requires the Challenge Deposit method.   I won't use Instant for my other account, but I'm curious to know it others have finished the steps successfully and are just waiting on coins now?

I do see that the price is fantastic.  Like right now there was a little dip, and I would have been able to lock in coins at just 1% over Mt. Gox Last (which is what Coinbase appears to be using).  That's less than most methods for moving USD funds between exchanges (e..g, using Liberty Reserve, or a redeemable code and paying the fee).   So this service will likely come in handy for those doing arbitrage as well.

This is a bad idea. Coinbase is asking for your password when it want to access your bank account. Do not use!

I successfully connected a checking account, bought $100 worth of bitcoins, and withdrew them to my local wallet.

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I've been getting an error that I cannot sell any BTC because it would exceed my 100 BTC daily limit.

And now I cannot even get into my account...


Anyone else having issues with the site?

I like this site

I did too until they suddenly decided to cancel my most recent purchase because it "appears to be high risk".

Overall, this is a big disappointment because it seemed like Coinbase was finally the first professional service for buying and selling coins.  Unfortunately, it looks like it's still amateur hour in Bitcoin land -- as usual.

It appears they may be using unconfirmed outputs in the transactions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143715.0) they generate to send you your bitcoins. That's just too much risk for me to be allowing them to pull money from my bank account. Until they resolve this issue, I wouldn't trust them enough to receive any transactions from them.  By the time they've sent you the bad transaction, they've already got the money from your bank account.  How do you straighten that out?

EDIT: Apparently coinbase is fixing the bug.  If I get confirmation that the bug is fixed, I'll delete this message.

More than one person has noted that transactions have a much higher probability of being classified as "high risk" if the exchange rate has gone up significantly between the time it was started and the time they credit your account with bitcoins. One would think they allocate the bitcoins immediately at the time they lock in the price, but if they aren't doing that it would make sense for them to cancel the order if the price has moved too far.

Unconfirmed transactions

We experienced some delayed transaction confirmations over the past week.

I just wanted to take a moment to update you on the status of this issue and apologize for any trouble it may have caused you.  Our goal is to have all bitcoin transactions arrive within a few seconds (about the speed of an email) and to be confirmed within the hour.  In this case we fell far short of that goal (some transactions were delayed for a number of days), and for that I am truly sorry.  I know it caused undue hassle and concern for our customers, and that is something we never want to happen.

The majority of these delays should now be resolved.  I’d like to address the solution we now have in place and some additional notes on how we think about transaction confirmations.

The root of the issue stemmed from how bitcoin transactions tend to chain together.  If you have a group of 20 bitcoins and you want to send 1, your transaction actually uses all 20 bitcoins and sends you 19 bitcoins as “change”.  This is much the same as using a $20 bill and getting $19 change for your purchase.

Your 19 bitcoins can then be used for the next transaction, and the change for that for the next, and so on.  This creates a chain of transactions where you are spending the change from the previous.

One challenge of the bitcoin protocol is that transactions can often take 10 minutes or longer to be “confirmed” (or make it into a block).  So if you are rapidly sending transactions you may end up using coins that haven’t been confirmed.  And if one of those transactions happens to never confirm (or takes a long time to do so) it hold up every other transaction in the chain.

Coinbase has a number of processes to counteract this, including using a hot wallet, breaking outputs into smaller chunks (sending a hundred 1 BTC payments from a 100 change will create a longer chain than sending a hundred 1 BTC payments from ten groups of 10 BTC), and paying miners fees on our customer’s behalf to make sure transactions are mined quickly.  But as we continue to scale and move beyond several thousand transactions per day, our basic systems were not cutting it any longer and there were a few edges we weren’t accounting for.

In particular, what caused the issues this week was getting transactions into the hot wallet which very long confirmation times.  Luke Jr and the the community were very helpful in assisting us in getting these mined, and a big thank you goes out to them.  We also re-generated/broadcast a number of transactions to get them confirmed.

We have now rewritten how our coin selection works, and pushed out a big code update today.  In particular, confirmed coins will be required in several cases, including:

when sending to the hot wallet
well selling coins through Coinbase
In these situations the number of blocks (or confirmations) that are required varies with the amount of the output.

There are other transactions (for example those coming out of the hot wallet) where we require fewer confirmations, or in some cases a maximum “depth” to the chain of 3 transactions.  If no coins are in the user wallet or hot wallet that meet this criteria, then you may be required to slow down generating new transactions for a period of time.  We will automatically try regenerating pending transactions at increasing intervals until there are sufficient confirmed coins to complete the transaction.

There is a trade off to requiring confirmed coins for every transaction.  The pros are that it assures all new transactions are confirmed quickly, and unconfirmed chains can’t build up.  The cons are that it requires the user to wait if there are currently no confirmed coins available.  As Coinbase continues to go, we will keep working on improving this situation and work to make sure it has the right balance between confirmation times and sending rate.  There is a lot more we could be doing around instant confirmations down the road as well.

Hopefully this helps explain the issue we faced and let’s you know that we are taking it seriously.  As always, we are open to your feedback in the support forum.

Sincerely,
Brian Armstrong
CEO, Coinbase