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Hey,

I'd like to know what interest there is to buy brand new HDDs/laptops/GPUs in the community? Through a really big procurement that I'm directing IRL, I'd be able to offer decent discounts on those products. On the negative side is that I can only handle a few different models, although many of each one.

As an example:

WD Green WD60EZRX 6TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236797) Standard price is $279 but newegg have them on discount for $222.

Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001 4TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Solid State Hybrid Drive Bare Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178737R) Standard price is $279 but newegg have them on discount for $229.

I'd be able to sell them for approx. $170 (EU) and $185 (US) incl. shipping.

These are examples to give you idea of what discount I'd offer. Would anyone be interested in buying with these kind of discounts...?

Please answer in following format:



Use 1 to 3 grading, where 3 means you would definitely buy, 2 probably buy, 1 possible buy.

Item refers to the three categories that we atm can offer: Large HDDs (including SSDs greater than 200GB), quality laptops (Apple & Asus/HP) and powerful GPUs (nVidia 970-980ti & the newest AMDs). Hopefully this gives you an idea of what quality products will be offered if there is an interested.


Edit:

I understand that this is an unorthodox way of doing biz. So let me briefly explain the process in an easy way. Lets divide the process into three phases.

This thread is currently in the 1st phase with it's probing question; We simply want to know [WTN] the interest in the community to make these kind of deals with these kind of discounts. Why is that? Well, I can, of course, order 50 MacBook Air in theory, but in reality I need to know that most of them will have a buyer. Phase 1 will be open for a few days. Let me emphasize that we can handle many costumers and even bulk orders without risking anything. ;)

After this, we will enter phase 2 which will contain actual offers. We will contact everyone of you who have indicated interest; We'll do our best to offer you a product you are happy with along a considerable discount. However, in Phase 2 there is no commitments: You can accept or refuse our offer (there is also some room for negotiation).

Would you accept our offer, we enter phase 3. This means commitment from both parties: Customer sends payment to escrow, we will make the shipment, and at arrival happiness will spread all over the forum. :) The escrow will be released to us.

Please answer in the thread in the format offered, do not PM me until an actual order/selling thread will be posted.[/color]


Lastly:
- payment would be in bitcoin
- larger shipments are more interesting than small, but everyone will be attended,
- buyer pay possible duty/tax
- escrow is a necessity
- minimum order will be around 1BTC or $250
- for shipping, we will use a world-renowned express delivery company
- escrow service provided by master-P (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932294) and [not decided yet]
- Questions are answered and updated here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1207997.msg12685751#msg12685751


Thanks for your attention.  :)

EDIT: 15 OCT, 01:28:03 AM

So warranty and all that?
Shipping to the UK?

Item: GTX970/GTX980/R9 390
Grade of interest:1
Number of items:1

Item: GTX970/GTX980
Grade of interest:1
Number of items:1

but will depend on postage to aus

Do you order these things directly to the buyers address or you first receive to your address then ship to the buyers address? Sent a PM.

Shipping included means anywhere in the world or US only?

Item: Asus high end laptop (ROG Series)
Grade of interest: 3
Number of items: 1

I would like to know if items are shipped from you, or from an online store ;  and also, where are you shipping from ?

This

and also this
Item: SSD 240/250gb (Samsung, Crucial cx100/mx100, any of them...)
Grade of interest: 2 (depends on price)
Number of items: 2

- So warranty and all that?
Of course. The warranty is held by the owner of the product. To RMA a product you will need to contact the manufacturer.

- Shipping to the UK?
Of course.

- Where are you shipping from?
Denmark

- Shipping included means anywhere in the world or US only?
Some places are really expensive to ship to, so we intentionally restrict the text and price examples to Europe and the US. However, if you find an shipping alternative that is reasonable we will ship. It'd also be possible to make a deal on the shipping where we share costs.

- Do you order these things directly to the buyers address or you first receive to your address then ship to the buyers address?
The latter - but we have 1 day delivery time on items in stock on contract. Your bitcoins will be held by escrow max two extra days than if we could ship directly. We will not open the box, just change address.


And, please do not PM me at this phase. We only need to know how many have an general interest in this sort of deals and items. In the next phase, when we know the interest, specifications of items will be posted and you will be able to say yes or no to the offer.



Thanks!



Updated: October 16, 2015, 03:57 PM

Thanks, this is a decent beginning :)

Firstly this is good that you first order the things in your address and then ship them to the buyer.
I would be interested in a macbook pro, but before dealing the price (your offer)
Then maybe i will add an SSD, any external HDD but first needs the price, Grade of interest:2

_Edit:
Item(s): Macbook Pro, SSD 240GB+, 1TB - 2TB WD external HDD
Grade of interest: 2
Number of items:1

Sure. If we get many answers, it would be easier to for us to compile an order-list if you used, though:

Im interested

In what..............?  ::)

Please people. It seems many are interested. Use this model to make our work easier, and you will get your stuff earlier.

Item(s): 1 or 2 TB SSD ( please list available brands you can get)
Grade of interest:3
Number of items:2

items - 480/500gb or 960/1tb ssd

grade of interest - 2

numbers of items - 1

Some edits have been made to the OP, for instance regarding minimum order and shipping. It's likely the OP will be updated in the future, so make sure to check it out once in awhile.

The basic condition of this thread will, however, not be changed. It's more a matter of clarification and addition of information on a detailed level.

Item: Asus high end laptop (ROG Series)
Grade of interest: 2
Number of items: 1

Item: GTX 900-series GPUs
Grade of interest: 1
Number of items: 1-8 (heavily dependent on the price)

Item: 480GB+ Samsung SSD
Grade of interest: 1
Number of items: 1

Item: Intel 6700K CPU
Grade of interest: 1
Number of items: 1

Only if a reliable warranty service is guaranteed and of course it depends on the brands/models.

Thanks. What do you mean by this? Does not, for exemple, "Intel 6700K CPU" have the same warrenty everywhere?

Reliable warranty means that you can easily send it back to a retailer/supplier for RMA. Since you are claiming to ship all over the world, these items will be grey imports for many buyers, and thus have no local warranty for them and would have to be shipped back to the retailer/supplier you got them from for warranty claims.

All this info will need to get disclosed before anyone hands over any cash, imo.

This. Gigabyte GPUs generally offer 3 years of warranty so I'd need some kind of proof that I'd be able to RMA faulty hardware years from now.

Of course the 6700K is a specific model/brand but what I was trying to say is that I wouldn't buy any kind of GPU/SSD so I'd like to see a list of some sort to pick from.

Item: GTX970/980; SSD/SSHD
Grade of interest: 1
Number of items: 2

Hmm... This was interesting. I will answer and ask a few things.

- I have lived in a number of different countries and cities, and have during the last +15 years been unable to RMA items through the original store due to practical problems. At these occasions, I have simply contacted the manufacturer directly and described my problem. On all occasions my requests have been acknowledged after sending the item to them with a valid receipt, and have been offered a replacement. This includes almost every major manufacturer of computer hardware that I can think of. The only company that proved to be a bitch was qnap, which didn't help me due to the warranty being ten days too old.
           Am I the only one that have done RMA this way..? Have I been lucky...? Generally I have been treated really well.

- Just a curious questions. It does occasionally happens that retailers aren't able to turn a profit and eventually need to file for bankruptcy and close their shops. How are their customers treated regarding RMAs? Does the warranty just vanish with the company? I have no idea. However, in such a case I'd contact the manufacturer and ask for help.


- Pansyfaust writes:
My highlight of the last sentence. I find it very unfortunate, as I interpret it as something has been hidden, possibly intentionally, by us. I do have my experiences of RMAs and perhaps I have been lucky. Twice, I think, I did not contact the manufacturer as I understood that the shipment cost would be too high to send the item a way. Of course there will be a cost for RMA shipments in most cases that you have to cover. Your last sentence, Pansyfaust, is misdirected.

- bathrobehero writes: "Gigabyte GPUs generally offer 3 years of warranty so I'd need some kind of proof that I'd be able to RMA faulty hardware years from now." Well, you have your warranty and receipt to be able to RMA your things. What proof can be provided of such a question that cover all cases.

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Listen to me.
- We are able to offer great discounts on item people want
- We will make the shipments with one of the express delivery companies
- We pay for your shipment
- We will use escrow services for every transaction to minimizing the risk of scams


You are perfectly free not to buy anything from us, but we have not been hiding anything. Quite, we have done our best to offer service as good as can be. We have not pretended that we can deliver every computer item created. Also, I welcome answers to me two first questions.

Whether I have been lucky or not, we are offering the members of this forum brand new, high-end hardware products at a lower price than they can find anywhere else, shipped by a world-leading company free of charge and we require escrow.

In my opinion, you are barking at the wrong three.  
 

Just wait a second. I was not implying that you are selling something without warranty. Let me paint you a picture. I buy a gigabyte GPU in America, and if I move over to the UK I don't think the supplier/dealer who provides gigabyte GPUs to the UK will do the RMA for me, since I bought the card through a US distributor/retailer. The card does still have warranty, but they cannot RMA it for me and I will need to send the card via international shipping to Gigabyte HQ to get the RMA completed, then pay for Gigabyte to send my replacement GPU.

This is what I meant by "no local warranty", so local dealers/suppliers wont do the RMA, but you can still send it to the manufacturer to do the RMA.

This is all I was asking for you to disclose, that if people buy this hardware, since it's not through a local store/supplier, if they need to RMA it, they have to send it to the manufacturer.

Does that clear up what I was asking you guys to disclose? Am I mistaken in my thinking of how the warranty on these items will be carried out? Would we ship it to you for warranty?

I'm not accusing you of anything, just asking questions.

No, that is not something to "disclose".

I believe it's obvious to everyone and not something that need special public attention before any deals are done. especially not in the way you formulated your post.. You are simply using the wrong the wrong terminology: You do not disclose that the sun will rise tomorrow. That is something we already know.

I disclose that we offer great discounts to to certain computer hardware.

Can you say, for certain, that everyone knows this facet about the hardware being sold? Do you really want someone who buys the hardware to start going around saying there's no warranty since when they asked their local distributor they were told the serial number is not in their system? I mean, somebody already asked if there is reliable warranty service, not only if there is warranty. To me asking if there is a reliable warranty service means the level of warranty support on the product--the time waiting while sending hardware to the manufacturer over a few weeks/month as opposed to the ease of doing the RMA through a local supplier are two different levels of reliable warranty service.

Also, you never answered the other question? Is warranty held through you or the place you source your parts from, or if warranty is needed it must be sent back to the manufacturer?

Also, disclosure is not something you do when admitting guilt, it's informing the other party about all facets of the deal: You said there is warranty, I wanted to know which level of warranty does it have--immediately through the supplier of your parts or only manufacturer? Disclosure means providing that information before the deal?

Item(s): Seagate 8TB archive HDD
Grade of interest: 3
Number of items: minimum 2 - if the Price is right, deffo more :)

Located in Denmark aswell :)

Will this be an one-of event?

Sorry if I missed parts of your post.


The warranty is held by the owner of the product.

Yes, disclosure means providing (often unknown or withheld) information. My point that that there was no unknown information to provide.


Btw, in my previous post I meant barking at the wrong tree - not barking at the wrong number three (3). I'd like to make that information public: I misspelled.

Thanks :)

Cool, well, I await more info on the parts and prices you are able to get.

Enjoy the weekend.

Item: A high End GPU (390x 970/980/980ti).
Grade of interest:2
Number of items:1-2

Might i suggest OgNasty for escrow as well, i and others have used him quite often.

Seconded.

Item: GTX970/980ti
Grade of interest:1
Number of items:1-2

Thanks! We are still figuring out how to do this in bigger scale than we done before.

A message from the team behind this thread.

As pointed out before, we have experience of this activity. However, before we have worked with this as a pure hobby and for fun. I still hope it will stay a hobby and be fun, but the interest is bigger than we thought it would be (we are on one other place than this forum). As far as I recall, everyone have been positive to the prices and service we are able to offer.

If we continue as now and perhaps grow even more, we need to consider this as a formal business, requiring expanding staff and facilities. On bitcointalk, we have discussion we nine of the once who shown interest in buying items. Nine might not sound like a lot, but deals involving a lot of Dollars have been discussed (also more than anticipated). Additional, the process from your post of interest to actual order has proven to require a lot of PMs, blurring the description of of 3 phases in the OP.

To figure out logistics, control over orders and personal needs to meet our goals of service, we will temporarily lock the thread and will not accept any new posts of interest.

Please note, we will of course attend all members who so far have indicated interest in this thread.  If you not yet been contacted, we will do that during the weekend and work to close the deals now discussed.


Lastly, we will be back.  :) Hopefully very soon, either in this thread or in a new one with a few changes to be able to meet our goals of service. If you not already indicated an interest, do not send any PMs as they will be deleted without reading. And please, don't be angry that you missed an opportunity to a good deal: The discounts will be the same when we re-open and we will offer a wider spectrum of products then now,, and remember that the temporary closure is to uphold a great level of service, both short- and long-term.


Until then, see you then :)