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Title: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: xmatt007x on October 15, 2015, 11:37:43 PM
Hey Again Everyone!

Well, I am up and running now! I did shutdown my unit last night because the units fan was LOUD! I want to make sure I am running this safe and have proper cooling! I have a extra room in the grudge that is air conditioned but I would need to connect the S5 via Wi-Fi. Any tips?


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: notlist3d on October 16, 2015, 12:48:53 AM
Hey Again Everyone!

Well, I am up and running now! I did shutdown my unit last night because the units fan was LOUD! I want to make sure I am running this safe and have proper cooling! I have a extra room in the grudge that is air conditioned but I would need to connect the S5 via Wi-Fi. Any tips?

I like wiring cable if possible.  But you can buy a device to use as WIFI.   If it is air conditioned just monitor it after.  One miner should not be bad since you have AC.

One thing I might warn if you grow using AC to cool devices is high as far as what it costs.    Using evaporation cooling, or lots of CFM are cheaper over time.   And winter is coming up for many and free cool air.   So keep those in mind.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: Amph on October 16, 2015, 06:26:59 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: okae on October 16, 2015, 11:11:22 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 16, 2015, 07:57:42 PM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: highaltitude20322 on October 16, 2015, 08:02:59 PM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I think this is the way to go. If it's nice and cool those fans don't need to be running on beast mode  ;D


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 17, 2015, 12:50:40 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I think this is the way to go. If it's nice and cool those fans don't need to be running on beast mode  ;D

Today i tried something new, i stripped 2 S1 fans and put it on the S5, i was able to lower fan RPM from 2560 to 2160 + drop the temp by 6c. The noise/cooling performance is unreal compared to a single fan. Now the only thing i can hear is my S4 that seem stuck at 2520 RPM atm.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: notlist3d on October 17, 2015, 02:24:46 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.   


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 17, 2015, 02:54:07 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.   

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: notlist3d on October 17, 2015, 03:18:04 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.   

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.

You would have a low outside temp to count on this.  If it is still warm in OP or others area it is not near as good with 25 percent fan. 

But I admit it's getting cooler in many places at this time of year.  I'm not sure if most can count of so low temps yet all day to run so low.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 17, 2015, 05:08:23 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.   

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.

You would have a low outside temp to count on this.  If it is still warm in OP or others area it is not near as good with 25 percent fan. 

But I admit it's getting cooler in many places at this time of year.  I'm not sure if most can count of so low temps yet all day to run so low.

Yup. 40% with a box fan blowing air through worked for me during summer, however.

I was able to run the miner at full OC with temps ~60c. During some crazy hot day, 30c+ i had to raise sometimes during the day to up to 65% to stay in the low 60c's.

As long as OP and anyone else make sure to temps dont go to upper 60s or 70s, then the miner should be fine.

Atm my temps are in mid 40s.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: notlist3d on October 17, 2015, 06:03:54 AM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.  

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.

You would have a low outside temp to count on this.  If it is still warm in OP or others area it is not near as good with 25 percent fan.  

But I admit it's getting cooler in many places at this time of year.  I'm not sure if most can count of so low temps yet all day to run so low.

Yup. 40% with a box fan blowing air through worked for me during summer, however.

I was able to run the miner at full OC with temps ~60c. During some crazy hot day, 30c+ i had to raise sometimes during the day to up to 65% to stay in the low 60c's.

As long as OP and anyone else make sure to temps dont go to upper 60s or 70s, then the miner should be fine.

Atm my temps are in mid 40s.

During most of summer I had around a little over 12k actually around 14k when looking at my spreadsheets.  I forgot about the C1's I was running in a different area.  So i had to use a little more I used 2 of these in front of miner's to push hot air away from miners - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32

I had one of these to help push air from window - http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-2265QM-20-Inch-Performance-Velocity/dp/B0073CQ9XA/ . And a second window I had a homemade fan with an attic fan.  So it really moved air.

So that worked great on moving air in and through miners.  But the problem then becomes you need to exhaust the air.  I did this mainly with a big gable upgrade - http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   And with this some vents in ceiling.  


But all that got me through summer mining which originally did not think I could do.  So very happy in the end.  I will enjoy the free winter air to save a few bucks coming up.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 17, 2015, 05:54:55 PM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.  

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.

You would have a low outside temp to count on this.  If it is still warm in OP or others area it is not near as good with 25 percent fan.  

But I admit it's getting cooler in many places at this time of year.  I'm not sure if most can count of so low temps yet all day to run so low.

Yup. 40% with a box fan blowing air through worked for me during summer, however.

I was able to run the miner at full OC with temps ~60c. During some crazy hot day, 30c+ i had to raise sometimes during the day to up to 65% to stay in the low 60c's.

As long as OP and anyone else make sure to temps dont go to upper 60s or 70s, then the miner should be fine.

Atm my temps are in mid 40s.

During most of summer I had around a little over 12k actually around 14k when looking at my spreadsheets.  I forgot about the C1's I was running in a different area.  So i had to use a little more I used 2 of these in front of miner's to push hot air away from miners - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32

I had one of these to help push air from window - http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-2265QM-20-Inch-Performance-Velocity/dp/B0073CQ9XA/ . And a second window I had a homemade fan with an attic fan.  So it really moved air.

So that worked great on moving air in and through miners.  But the problem then becomes you need to exhaust the air.  I did this mainly with a big gable upgrade - http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   And with this some vents in ceiling.  


But all that got me through summer mining which originally did not think I could do.  So very happy in the end.  I will enjoy the free winter air to save a few bucks coming up.

Thats pretty impressive, that must of moved air. I use 2 of these, different brand, 15$ each;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holmes-Box-Fan-White-/191637946943

One as intake, one as outake. I really wish i could use something with serious CFM for summer time, but i'm assuming the one you used are kinda noisy and probably not fit for an apartment?


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: notlist3d on October 17, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.  

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.

You would have a low outside temp to count on this.  If it is still warm in OP or others area it is not near as good with 25 percent fan.  

But I admit it's getting cooler in many places at this time of year.  I'm not sure if most can count of so low temps yet all day to run so low.

Yup. 40% with a box fan blowing air through worked for me during summer, however.

I was able to run the miner at full OC with temps ~60c. During some crazy hot day, 30c+ i had to raise sometimes during the day to up to 65% to stay in the low 60c's.

As long as OP and anyone else make sure to temps dont go to upper 60s or 70s, then the miner should be fine.

Atm my temps are in mid 40s.

During most of summer I had around a little over 12k actually around 14k when looking at my spreadsheets.  I forgot about the C1's I was running in a different area.  So i had to use a little more I used 2 of these in front of miner's to push hot air away from miners - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32

I had one of these to help push air from window - http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-2265QM-20-Inch-Performance-Velocity/dp/B0073CQ9XA/ . And a second window I had a homemade fan with an attic fan.  So it really moved air.

So that worked great on moving air in and through miners.  But the problem then becomes you need to exhaust the air.  I did this mainly with a big gable upgrade - http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   And with this some vents in ceiling.  


But all that got me through summer mining which originally did not think I could do.  So very happy in the end.  I will enjoy the free winter air to save a few bucks coming up.

Thats pretty impressive, that must of moved air. I use 2 of these, different brand, 15$ each;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holmes-Box-Fan-White-/191637946943

One as intake, one as outake. I really wish i could use something with serious CFM for summer time, but i'm assuming the one you used are kinda noisy and probably not fit for an apartment?

Correct you would need an area just for mining.  With that many CFM the fan's are louder then the machines.   But it really does push a LOT of air.

It was kinda a lot of testing and trial/error to get it to work great.  But it eventually worked great for a mining area.   The exhaust I was hoping to use old, but it just did not keep up.  It took a pretty big upgrade on exhaust for it to handle pushing all that air out.


Title: Re: Recommended Safety & Cooling
Post by: VirosaGITS on October 17, 2015, 11:58:02 PM
you can change your fan, if i'm correct the s5 mount 120mm, you can some artif fan f12 or the one with the pwn and install that instead, i've done the same thing with those scrypt miners, and they working fine, and were very quite

or you can undervolt it, but it require a little of experience with electricity

yep, he can always undervolt it, but process seems a little bit complicated, i dont know if this is your case or not, but here you can find a guide about how to do it with an S1 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526060.0

i hope it helps you ;)

You can not Penmod a S5, however. My tip would be to set the fan down to 25%-40% depending on the ambient temp. At 25% they are pretty quiet imo.

I would watch ambiant temp before doing this.  They can get pretty warm on S5's.  They do not have a full case and only 1 fan so you should have a cold ambient to turn down that much.

S5's just run warm and are not quiet by design.  

For reference, at the moment they are taking in air from a outdoor stream pulled in by a box fan. The outdoor temp is 10c, i have put 2 S1 fan on it running at 2k RPM, which is insanely quiet compared to one stock fan at stock speed. The miner's temp is 50c~

With 1x Stock S5 fan, i get same temps at 2.8k RPM which is still much better than full speed and bearable if in an other, closed room.

You would have a low outside temp to count on this.  If it is still warm in OP or others area it is not near as good with 25 percent fan.  

But I admit it's getting cooler in many places at this time of year.  I'm not sure if most can count of so low temps yet all day to run so low.

Yup. 40% with a box fan blowing air through worked for me during summer, however.

I was able to run the miner at full OC with temps ~60c. During some crazy hot day, 30c+ i had to raise sometimes during the day to up to 65% to stay in the low 60c's.

As long as OP and anyone else make sure to temps dont go to upper 60s or 70s, then the miner should be fine.

Atm my temps are in mid 40s.

During most of summer I had around a little over 12k actually around 14k when looking at my spreadsheets.  I forgot about the C1's I was running in a different area.  So i had to use a little more I used 2 of these in front of miner's to push hot air away from miners - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32

I had one of these to help push air from window - http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-2265QM-20-Inch-Performance-Velocity/dp/B0073CQ9XA/ . And a second window I had a homemade fan with an attic fan.  So it really moved air.

So that worked great on moving air in and through miners.  But the problem then becomes you need to exhaust the air.  I did this mainly with a big gable upgrade - http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   And with this some vents in ceiling.  


But all that got me through summer mining which originally did not think I could do.  So very happy in the end.  I will enjoy the free winter air to save a few bucks coming up.

Thats pretty impressive, that must of moved air. I use 2 of these, different brand, 15$ each;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holmes-Box-Fan-White-/191637946943

One as intake, one as outake. I really wish i could use something with serious CFM for summer time, but i'm assuming the one you used are kinda noisy and probably not fit for an apartment?

Correct you would need an area just for mining.  With that many CFM the fan's are louder then the machines.   But it really does push a LOT of air.

It was kinda a lot of testing and trial/error to get it to work great.  But it eventually worked great for a mining area.   The exhaust I was hoping to use old, but it just did not keep up.  It took a pretty big upgrade on exhaust for it to handle pushing all that air out.

I might try to setup a small warehouse in the future if i can get funding. I know someone who might be interested in starting up something small in maybe sometime 2016, with the hydro electricity, even the lowest industrial class electricity would be 0.03-0.04$/kWh.

But i'll really need something small yet dense to get industrial contract for electricity and figure out how to keep the temps safe to cool the place. Burning the place down is probably not good on ROI.

But for now, i'm sticking to my apartment's free-ish electricity.