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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: yanka50 on October 25, 2015, 11:55:17 AM



Title: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 25, 2015, 11:55:17 AM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 25, 2015, 12:02:35 PM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?

I wouldn't recommend you to "invest" (gamble) honestly because you will eventually get greedy and lose all your BTC so just don't do it . Try something else like opening a faucet and place ads on your website and try to drive traffic or something like opening a blog etc ... that's the best ways to invest your money into online these days .
Using "unknown" website is not recommended as-well because they will probably won't even let you withdraw your cash .


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: MonsterV on October 25, 2015, 12:16:15 PM
Moneypot opening invest services they have many types of gambling such as dice, roullete, horse racing, slots and other games
Another option is tothemoon.me rocket  game min inves 1 BTC  You can contact OP
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16614


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: FanEagle on October 25, 2015, 12:24:45 PM
2 nice options: Moneypot or just-dice.
one is bitcoin related, the other is clam based.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 25, 2015, 12:29:15 PM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?

I wouldn't recommend you to "invest" (gamble) honestly because you will eventually get greedy and lose all your BTC so just don't do it . Try something else like opening a faucet and place ads on your website and try to drive traffic or something like opening a blog etc ... that's the best ways to invest your money into online these days .
Using "unknown" website is not recommended as-well because they will probably won't even let you withdraw your cash .
I am talking about investment - not playing on dice.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: katerniko1 on October 25, 2015, 12:43:40 PM
with investing in new dice with small bankroll you have high risk that they will run when they reach enough of investors.
im safer that my money is in someting old and trusted
regards.
-Katerniko1


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: tyz on October 25, 2015, 12:43:55 PM
Do you mean with "invest" that you want to gambling on a site or buying stakes or assets from a dice site? If the first holds, there are a lot of thread handling this topic. If seconds holds, then I recommend to don't invest in such sites. There were a lot of ponzi themes and I guess that you won't get a quick return on investment.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Small on October 25, 2015, 12:47:51 PM
Unknown site with small bankroll would expose you to the risk of the owner running away or cheating your money if not, the profit would be bigger and losses would be bigger. With a bigger site, the profit and loss would be smaller and the risk is much lower. I would opt for investment in moneypot as they seem pretty trustable.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: mark coins on October 25, 2015, 01:05:08 PM
I would prefer the low bankroll dice coz i want a fast movement of my investment, on top of that i would use trusted website ofcourse


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: shulio on October 25, 2015, 02:01:04 PM
I would prefer the low bankroll dice coz i want a fast movement of my investment, on top of that i would use trusted website ofcourse

The problem is there is no trusted website with still a low bankroll and most of the dice site have hundreds of bankroll right now. With a small bankroll, the website will not attract people to play as well


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: mark coins on October 25, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
I would prefer the low bankroll dice coz i want a fast movement of my investment, on top of that i would use trusted website ofcourse

The problem is there is no trusted website with still a low bankroll and most of the dice site have hundreds of bankroll right now. With a small bankroll, the website will not attract people to play as well

When i say small bankroll i mean is less than 500btc BR and Safedice is what im talking about. Last time i check they only have 300+ btc bankroll


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: edmundduke on October 25, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
Depends on your own bankroll to be honest. New sites can be dangerous as they can run with the bankroll any moment (the same can happen to an older site but the chance is usually lower).

I would choose a trusted site with a good bankroll. Next thing i would look at is what is the average % the investors have won so far. Then see how many people (especially whales) play there.

If your amount is too small compared to everyone else, there might not be any point in investing.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: maku on October 25, 2015, 02:08:52 PM
There is plenty of reasons why to invest in Bitcoin Casinos and even more reasons against it.
Well, because gambling is an incredibly lucrative industry and Bitcoin gambling is a rapidly-growing trade.
But if you wan to know something more about this topic I suggest you first read this article:

https://thebitcoinstrip.com/blog/investing-in-bitcoin-casinos.html (https://thebitcoinstrip.com/blog/investing-in-bitcoin-casinos.html)


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Small on October 25, 2015, 03:23:23 PM
I would prefer the low bankroll dice coz i want a fast movement of my investment, on top of that i would use trusted website ofcourse

The problem is there is no trusted website with still a low bankroll and most of the dice site have hundreds of bankroll right now. With a small bankroll, the website will not attract people to play as well
I would refute your last statement. Many dice sites has max bet over 100BTC and Primedice only have a max bet of 20BTC. However, they are still equally or more popular than other dice sites due to the reputation.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: BTCevo on October 25, 2015, 04:04:52 PM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?

The most people invest is on moneypot and justdice. That is more trustable AFAIK


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: marioantonini on October 25, 2015, 05:17:03 PM
with the new and unknow website, you can earn more rapid , but have a really high chance to get scammed.
I have invest a little bit in moneypot and the % of earn is very little for me, just-dice is good but claim not is bitcoin and can lose value every day


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Hugroll on October 25, 2015, 05:20:16 PM
i wouldn't recommend investing in dice sites for 2reasons.
1) its the same odds as winning with gambling, if you keep that in mind it doesnt really seem like investing its more like gambling your life savings.
2) majority of sites out there are going to scam you,it has been seen in the past and it will continue to happen because people continue to make money from this, but if you need do feel like investing in house, go with moneypot they have a pretty decent reputation and atleast you wont have to worry about getting scammed.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: WEBcreator on October 25, 2015, 05:26:53 PM
1) its the same odds as winning with gambling, if you keep that in mind it doesnt really seem like investing its more like gambling your life savings.

It is not the same. If you invest in dice site then you will get profit in the long term, you win with the house but if you are gambling then you will lose in the long term, thats the difference


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: visual111 on October 25, 2015, 08:09:20 PM
I'm not sure if you still can invest in this one, but tothemoon.me used to have a bankroll you could buy via the NXT AE


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: klf on October 26, 2015, 01:44:00 AM
1) its the same odds as winning with gambling, if you keep that in mind it doesnt really seem like investing its more like gambling your life savings.

It is not the same. If you invest in dice site then you will get profit in the long term, you win with the house but if you are gambling then you will lose in the long term, thats the difference

That may be true because no one can win in any dice games so most of the dice game gamblers will end up losing money to dice game houses so investors can make some profits. But one should find a some trust worthy sites to invest otherwise more chances of losing money instead of making profits.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 26, 2015, 01:48:33 AM
1) its the same odds as winning with gambling, if you keep that in mind it doesnt really seem like investing its more like gambling your life savings.

It is not the same. If you invest in dice site then you will get profit in the long term, you win with the house but if you are gambling then you will lose in the long term, thats the difference

That may be true because no one can win in any dice games so most of the dice game gamblers will end up losing money to dice game houses so investors can make some profits. But one should find a some trust worthy sites to invest otherwise more chances of losing money instead of making profits.
People does in fact get lucky and can win in dice games. There are times when your profit can go negative due to a whale's winnings. However, in the long term, other gamblers would be more likely to lose their bankroll hence yielding a profit. There are usually higher losses than wins at just-dice.com/misc/biggest.txt


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ajareselde on October 26, 2015, 02:12:09 AM
i wouldn't recommend investing in dice sites for 2reasons.
1) its the same odds as winning with gambling, if you keep that in mind it doesnt really seem like investing its more like gambling your life savings.
2) majority of sites out there are going to scam you,it has been seen in the past and it will continue to happen because people continue to make money from this, but if you need do feel like investing in house, go with moneypot they have a pretty decent reputation and atleast you wont have to worry about getting scammed.

1. No it's not, because when you're gambling you have disadvantage bacause of the house edge, while as an invostor in the site, those odds are in your favor.
2. Solution to untrusted sites is avoiding them; op should consider very highly trusted site like justdice.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: lumeire on October 26, 2015, 02:17:55 AM
You can try investing a bit on 64blocks.com, it's a fun dice game that is owned by a trusted member here in bitcointalk. I myself has a stake there.

Or if you are really conservative, go with established casinos like JustDice.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: hua_hui on October 26, 2015, 03:38:04 AM
You can try investing a bit on 64blocks.com, it's a fun dice game that is owned by a trusted member here in bitcointalk. I myself has a stake there.

Or if you are really conservative, go with established casinos like JustDice.

i thought justdice now is handling only clam?? and how well is 64blocks.com doing for you???


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Small on October 26, 2015, 03:43:40 AM
You can try investing a bit on 64blocks.com, it's a fun dice game that is owned by a trusted member here in bitcointalk. I myself has a stake there.

Or if you are really conservative, go with established casinos like JustDice.

i thought justdice now is handling only clam?? and how well is 64blocks.com doing for you???
Last time I went, 64blocks had a very small volume. Its owned by a trusted member but there is too little volume and bet cap to make a good profit.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: WEBcreator on October 26, 2015, 04:40:19 AM
You can try investing a bit on 64blocks.com, it's a fun dice game that is owned by a trusted member here in bitcointalk. I myself has a stake there.

Or if you are really conservative, go with established casinos like JustDice.

i thought justdice now is handling only clam?? and how well is 64blocks.com doing for you???
Last time I went, 64blocks had a very small volume. Its owned by a trusted member but there is too little volume and bet cap to make a good profit.

Without a good volume then the site will not make enough. Most gambling site has 1 % house edge so the house make average 1 btc for every 100 btc wagered . Imagine if the house gets 100 btc volume every month then it is only 1 btc / month shared to all investor, that is only a little


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Alvin Fahriza on October 26, 2015, 08:43:32 AM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 26, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.
Can you name any other websites with such stats about investing in dice?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Joca97 on October 26, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
prc and bitdice.me are currently the best for investing
but i dont know if anyone ever got rich from dice investing


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Alvin Fahriza on October 26, 2015, 10:39:57 AM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.
Can you name any other websites with such stats about investing in dice?
prcdice.eu and bitdice.me also moneypot.com and satoshidice.com is the website i know.
and just-dice.com for invest clam.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 26, 2015, 10:56:21 AM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.
Can you name any other websites with such stats about investing in dice?
prcdice.eu and bitdice.me also moneypot.com and satoshidice.com is the website i know.
and just-dice.com for invest clam.
I was talking about a website like dicesites.com with statistics ;)


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ShetKid on October 26, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
I would always stick to Just dice as trusted the most. Most of the other sites there is risk of funds being gone. I have already lost funds on one such site.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Alvin Fahriza on October 26, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.
Can you name any other websites with such stats about investing in dice?
prcdice.eu and bitdice.me also moneypot.com and satoshidice.com is the website i know.
and just-dice.com for invest clam.
I was talking about a website like dicesites.com with statistics ;)
I don't know about that,but in dicesites.com is most sites of all gambler played.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on October 26, 2015, 12:02:38 PM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?

I'd personally advise you not to invest in any, especially new one's. I know some people will make lots of money by doing so & pull me up on my opinion here but I wouldn't want to risk my money investing in something that may go bust or not work out & you lose your investment.

(I realise I'm a massive hypocrite here because I've invested a fairly sizeable chunk of money in bitcoin itself :D)


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Eastwind on October 26, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.

Did you play on any these option sites? Which would you recommend? What is your personal experience?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Alvin Fahriza on October 26, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
There's many option site in https://dicesites.com/ you can check the bankroll,profit invest there.
Also can check stats of dice you want to invest.

Did you play on any these option sites? Which would you recommend? What is your personal experience?
No, I just give option site that have option for invest and just play some sites like prcdice.eu and bitdice.me there's good site and provably fair, also on prcdice.eu have 4227.18538554 ฿ total invested.
So I recommend for prcdice.eu for invest.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: cazkooo on October 26, 2015, 12:36:32 PM
I'd personally advise you not to invest in any, especially new one's. I know some people will make lots of money by doing so & pull me up on my opinion here but I wouldn't want to risk my money investing in something that may go bust or not work out & you lose your investment.

(I realise I'm a massive hypocrite here because I've invested a fairly sizeable chunk of money in bitcoin itself :D)

Investing is the same with gambling. Its not about win or lose but in investing / gambling you can always lose your btc if the operator run away with your btc . The difference is the time to get a profit, with gambling you will get profit in short term if you are lucky enough but in investing the profit is in long term


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: OrientA on October 26, 2015, 12:42:17 PM
I'd personally advise you not to invest in any, especially new one's. I know some people will make lots of money by doing so & pull me up on my opinion here but I wouldn't want to risk my money investing in something that may go bust or not work out & you lose your investment.

(I realise I'm a massive hypocrite here because I've invested a fairly sizeable chunk of money in bitcoin itself :D)

Investing is the same with gambling. Its not about win or lose but in investing / gambling you can always lose your btc if the operator run away with your btc . The difference is the time to get a profit, with gambling you will get profit in short term if you are lucky enough but in investing the profit is in long term

When you invest in a company, you study its finance report and do a research on the sector/market the company is in. Then buy the shares. You will make profit in long term. For gambling, there is a house edge against you. You will not make much profit.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 26, 2015, 01:41:39 PM
Please DON't use this technique as investing.Investing and gambling are two different things completely .There is no guarantee in any dice rolling websites about your profits .The irony is,more you bet more you lose.Those are completely random events.However if you want to invest for small time with fewer but trusted incomes you can check out a few websites around .They pay on ROI of %150 for 5 days which is a descent amount of money and its totally safe.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: mark coins on October 26, 2015, 01:45:57 PM
if you want to invest for small time with fewer but trusted incomes you can check out a few websites around .They pay on ROI of %150 for 5 days which is a descent amount of money and its totally safe.

Do you mean investing in a ponzi/hyip sites? Bro we arent born yesterday to be fooled by those kind of sites, if you want to invest your money there no one will stop you but please dont invite people to that


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: oni.saori on October 26, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: kpitti on October 26, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
This is mid/long term investment for sure. Just focus on total bankroll and dice site reputation. House never lost  ::)


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: mark coins on October 26, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

Ofcourse it depends on how much you invest. 1% is quite good amount if you invest lets say 10btc then you are expecting to profit .1btc and how much more if you invest bigger amount


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: apriyani420 on October 26, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
if i were you i would definitely not invest in any gambling websites as they might run away with your money at any time and scam you


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 26, 2015, 03:03:44 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

Ofcourse it depends on how much you invest. 1% is quite good amount if you invest lets say 10btc then you are expecting to profit .1btc and how much more if you invest bigger amount
It depends a lot on the volume and luck of the gambler. A whale could potentially wipe a good portion of the profit off the house and you would be in negative. We aren't talking about days here, we are talking about months and possibly years, in the long run.
if i were you i would definitely not invest in any gambling websites as they might run away with your money at any time and scam you
So is with nearly every investment options. Investing in gambling sites can be a lot less riskier than investing in cloudmining etc. Gambling sites could verify their proof of solvency while there is almost no way in verifying the hashrates of the cloudmining programs.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: sana9821 on October 26, 2015, 03:06:07 PM
as far as i know you can invest in dadice if you contact the owner though im not sure as i read that a few months ago i think


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: mark coins on October 26, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

Ofcourse it depends on how much you invest. 1% is quite good amount if you invest lets say 10btc then you are expecting to profit .1btc and how much more if you invest bigger amount
It depends a lot on the volume and luck of the gambler. A whale could potentially wipe a good portion of the profit off the house and you would be in negative. We aren't talking about days here, we are talking about months and possibly years, in the long run.
if i were you i would definitely not invest in any gambling websites as they might run away with your money at any time and scam you
So is with nearly every investment options. Investing in gambling sites can be a lot less riskier than investing in cloudmining etc. Gambling sites could verify their proof of solvency while there is almost no way in verifying the hashrates of the cloudmining programs.


But even there are whales gambling in the site you invested in, you still have the house edge besides you thats giving you higher chance of getting profit than any of the gamblers. So most likely by the math you will end up winning


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Eastwind on October 26, 2015, 05:59:01 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

Ofcourse it depends on how much you invest. 1% is quite good amount if you invest lets say 10btc then you are expecting to profit .1btc and how much more if you invest bigger amount
It depends a lot on the volume and luck of the gambler. A whale could potentially wipe a good portion of the profit off the house and you would be in negative. We aren't talking about days here, we are talking about months and possibly years, in the long run.
if i were you i would definitely not invest in any gambling websites as they might run away with your money at any time and scam you
So is with nearly every investment options. Investing in gambling sites can be a lot less riskier than investing in cloudmining etc. Gambling sites could verify their proof of solvency while there is almost no way in verifying the hashrates of the cloudmining programs.


But even there are whales gambling in the site you invested in, you still have the house edge besides you thats giving you higher chance of getting profit than any of the gamblers. So most likely by the math you will end up winning

That happens when the whale keeps on playing for long term, and you have enough capital to bet against them. House edge will help eventually.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: cazkooo on October 26, 2015, 07:15:35 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

It depends on how many percentage you are supporting and also I think Its huge even for 1 %. Example is PRC that makes over 3k bitcoin in profit. If your investment support 1 % of the bankroll then you get 1 % of the profit as well and thats 30 btc. If you support 2 % thats 60 btc and so on


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: SyGambler on October 26, 2015, 07:21:55 PM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: cazkooo on October 26, 2015, 07:30:43 PM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money

You dont even need to invest a big amount. Invest some of what you have because it is a profit in a long run and almost always be. Im not sure why people are avoiding clear profit like that even if it is just a small profit or even just some satoshi but profit is still a profit


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ikydesu on October 26, 2015, 07:42:34 PM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

Well the fact is this is not investment based on ponzi scheme and you can still earn profit, although the amount is not huge as you want.

if i were you i would definitely not invest in any gambling websites as they might run away with your money at any time and scam you

The possibility is could be happens. As long as you not play too long with your money inside the bankroll, you choose a trusted gambling bankroll and you can monitoring your investment and the company.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: SyGambler on October 26, 2015, 07:49:02 PM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money

You dont even need to invest a big amount. Invest some of what you have because it is a profit in a long run and almost always be. Im not sure why people are avoiding clear profit like that even if it is just a small profit or even just some satoshi but profit is still a profit

well maybe I will try to invest soon , for now actually I find investing in poker games is better for me cause the possible return is bigger
but I will take your advice and invest in dice in the near future


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 27, 2015, 07:01:34 AM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money

You dont even need to invest a big amount. Invest some of what you have because it is a profit in a long run and almost always be. Im not sure why people are avoiding clear profit like that even if it is just a small profit or even just some satoshi but profit is still a profit
Investment in a dice site would be a long term one, over a span of years to have a definite profit. You would not be able to use your funds if you want to invest them and there is a present risk of the dice site's owner running away.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Light on October 27, 2015, 07:04:40 AM
Into new and unknown website with small bankroll.

Hell no. The majority of dice sites that started up all ran away with the bankroll sometime down the track. AFAIK the only two that haven't high-tailed and ran and maintain a relatively high profile within the community are JD and PD neither of which offer investments in BTC. Unless you trust the person running the dice site not to run with the bankroll - or possibly even worse abuse their knowledge to make bets that always win but are completely undetectable then I wouldn't invest any amount that you aren't willing to part with.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Decoded on October 27, 2015, 08:00:40 AM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: BTCevo on October 27, 2015, 08:19:08 AM
Dice Investing will never give you huge profit because 1% is nothing as we can invest in other sources rather that this type of investing

Depends on how much did you invest, if you invest more you can earn more but care of whale that winning a lot sure you will lose more too. Dice investing is a good investment though because it will up so fast and down so fast. See how lucky you are when you are invest it


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: cazkooo on October 27, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money

You dont even need to invest a big amount. Invest some of what you have because it is a profit in a long run and almost always be. Im not sure why people are avoiding clear profit like that even if it is just a small profit or even just some satoshi but profit is still a profit
Investment in a dice site would be a long term one, over a span of years to have a definite profit. You would not be able to use your funds if you want to invest them and there is a present risk of the dice site's owner running away.

You can always use your funds because you can divest them anytime. Of course everything has a risk even if you hold btc forever then that is a risk already because the price can go down alot but people trust btc will go up , the same as people trust the gambling site operator to hold their funds


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 27, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money

You dont even need to invest a big amount. Invest some of what you have because it is a profit in a long run and almost always be. Im not sure why people are avoiding clear profit like that even if it is just a small profit or even just some satoshi but profit is still a profit
Investment in a dice site would be a long term one, over a span of years to have a definite profit. You would not be able to use your funds if you want to invest them and there is a present risk of the dice site's owner running away.

You can always use your funds because you can divest them anytime. Of course everything has a risk even if you hold btc forever then that is a risk already because the price can go down alot but people trust btc will go up , the same as people trust the gambling site operator to hold their funds
Sure you can but profit is not guaranteed this way. Many investments require users to keep it with them in order to profit, no exceptions with gambling sites. If a whale happens to win lots of BTC, you would lose some in your investments. If you're to divest, there can be a whale that would come and lose lots of BTC, reducing your profit and chances of gaining back those losses.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: cazkooo on October 27, 2015, 11:00:14 AM
investing in dice should lead to profit in the long term , but as people said the returns will depend on how much u invest and how much the dice site already have as a bankroll
for me I have never invested , maybe cause I feel that I have to risk a big amount in order to make some good money

You dont even need to invest a big amount. Invest some of what you have because it is a profit in a long run and almost always be. Im not sure why people are avoiding clear profit like that even if it is just a small profit or even just some satoshi but profit is still a profit
Investment in a dice site would be a long term one, over a span of years to have a definite profit. You would not be able to use your funds if you want to invest them and there is a present risk of the dice site's owner running away.

You can always use your funds because you can divest them anytime. Of course everything has a risk even if you hold btc forever then that is a risk already because the price can go down alot but people trust btc will go up , the same as people trust the gambling site operator to hold their funds
Sure you can but profit is not guaranteed this way. Many investments require users to keep it with them in order to profit, no exceptions with gambling sites. If a whale happens to win lots of BTC, you would lose some in your investments. If you're to divest, there can be a whale that would come and lose lots of BTC, reducing your profit and chances of gaining back those losses.

It is the same as the opposite to waht you write as well, If a whale lost a lot instantly then you will get profit. You will be able to divest your investment plus the profit that you get from your investment. Everything is risky but with investing you are always in profit for a long term


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: OrientA on October 27, 2015, 11:42:11 AM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 27, 2015, 11:45:02 AM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.
AFAIK, justdice was closed due to the fear of regulations on the casino. Clams is an altcoin and is hard to convert to cash hence they used it. Even though they control a huge portion of the available coin, the system distributes the staked coin among the investors and justdice do not directly get profit from it.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Buziss on October 27, 2015, 04:43:37 PM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.
AFAIK, justdice was closed due to the fear of regulations on the casino. Clams is an altcoin and is hard to convert to cash hence they used it. Even though they control a huge portion of the available coin, the system distributes the staked coin among the investors and justdice do not directly get profit from it.

Regarding the very last past, it is not really true. From the FAQs (https://just-dice.com/#a27), 10% commission is charged on staking rewards before they are shared out.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Supercrypt on October 27, 2015, 06:26:32 PM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.

Clam is the most held coin in crypt-currency history. Fairly distributed.
Like this many people now a days prefer alt coins to make dice gaming or any other gambling just not willing to risk their bitcoin. This will not letting out bitcoin from gambling industry.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Eastwind on October 28, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.

Clam is the most held coin in crypt-currency history. Fairly distributed.
Like this many people now a days prefer alt coins to make dice gaming or any other gambling just not willing to risk their bitcoin. This will not letting out bitcoin from gambling industry.

Do you mean Clam has most users? I thought bitcoin or Doge, litecoin have more users. Do you think the site owner have some connections to the Clam community?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 28, 2015, 10:01:31 AM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.

Clam is the most held coin in crypt-currency history. Fairly distributed.
Like this many people now a days prefer alt coins to make dice gaming or any other gambling just not willing to risk their bitcoin. This will not letting out bitcoin from gambling industry.

Do you mean Clam has most users? I thought bitcoin or Doge, litecoin have more users. Do you think the site owner have some connections to the Clam community?

Doolgus has previously addressed his intentions.
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Why didn't dooglus pick a currency that already has a market and added on some exchanges? This one looks so thin particularly for a site like just-dice and most of the coins are property of owners who didn't know they had it (found some CLAMS in an old wallet that had balance in 24 may, Plenty of just-dice people found they had hundreds of CLAMS too). Also I doubt investors who had thousands of BTC in just-dice would convert their bitcoins to some random alt-currency and put it in there.

I don't want thousands of BTC on JD. It's too much responsibility looking after them. Switching to a "worthless" toy coin should drastically reduce the amount of value I have to take care of.
And
I think the whole point of adding CLAM was that it is almost free, and they wanted to use testnet coins.
Still waiting on dooglus to comment on the launch, and about any future plans.

You got it. The site has been sitting idle for long enough. Almost everyone got their BTC back already, so it's time to move on. I don't want to see people winning and losing fortunes, so this should keep things more sensible.

With CLAM I'll also feel more comfortable adding experimental features. Switching from BTC to CLAM should take some of the pressure off me.
The main reason for closure of Bitcoin version of JD was the regulations implemented.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 28, 2015, 12:49:04 PM
I have never heard of CLAMS before I got familiar with JD, but I don't use them.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: kostya.ash on October 28, 2015, 01:50:12 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ajun96 on October 28, 2015, 01:52:08 PM

where I can see the list of gambling sites, where can I invest on there
i need review about it ?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 28, 2015, 02:01:48 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.

where I can see the list of gambling sites, where can I invest on there
i need review about it ?
Dicesites.com is a good one, providing a comprehensive overview of the stats.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Shinpako09 on October 28, 2015, 03:25:12 PM
Why not make your own dice site hire a person to do a site for you i think its better a choice if you have a decent amount of bitcoin rather than ivesting into other dice site.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 28, 2015, 03:46:14 PM
Why not make your own dice site hire a person to do a site for you i think its better a choice if you have a decent amount of bitcoin rather than ivesting into other dice site.
Making a dice site is not as easy as you think. The user would need to create a custom back and front end with great features to attract users. It isn't easy to manage the advertising and the support of the dice site either. As a start, you need to have at least 1000 BTC for people to be interested to try out your dice site. You're responsible to take care of the security management too.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 28, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
It is not easy to manage dice website, you need to pay for design, hosting, security, advertising and more...


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 28, 2015, 06:06:25 PM
I think justdice, as it is a long-standing gambling website. The only problem is that they use an alt-coin called "clams". These are sometimes considered scam-coins as a few people own the majority of these.

Why do not they use other coins? One reason could be that they are supporter of Clam and Clam is a PoS coin. When user deposit Clams there, Justdice will earn interest with the coins.

Clam is the most held coin in crypt-currency history. Fairly distributed.
Like this many people now a days prefer alt coins to make dice gaming or any other gambling just not willing to risk their bitcoin. This will not letting out bitcoin from gambling industry.

Do you mean Clam has most users? I thought bitcoin or Doge, litecoin have more users. Do you think the site owner have some connections to the Clam community?


Comparatively altcoins or bitcoins have more users to my knowledge but never knew Clam has more users until i discovered this post.This changes the entire investing scene for everybody then .Because most of the people believe investing in altcoins is most profitable at the moment but Clam? I need to rethink my strategies.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: patt0 on October 28, 2015, 06:23:43 PM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?

Well there is always the risk of a scam so I think the trusted website would be the better approach. But I do see the appealing in using a small bank in a new website, since they will probably try to increase their player base with very good and aggressive promotions that could be very rewarding.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: leex1528 on October 28, 2015, 07:07:20 PM
I strongly advise against investing in a gambling site.  It depends on how many coins you have but personally anything could happen, it is a slightly better way to gamble your coins this way then any other. 


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: adaseb on October 28, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
I strongly advise against investing in a gambling site.  It depends on how many coins you have but personally anything could happen, it is a slightly better way to gamble your coins this way then any other. 

Its actually pretty safe. And in the long run you can make a decent income. Much better than the interest you earn by holding your BTC at Bitfinex for swap. But you need to choose a website that's not a scam and shows a public balance wallet.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: apriyani420 on October 28, 2015, 09:36:57 PM
justdice is the best dice for investing in my opinion as they most likely not to turn to a scam and steal all your money though it is just my opinion


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Shinpako09 on October 28, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
Why not make your own dice site hire a person to do a site for you i think its better a choice if you have a decent amount of bitcoin rather than ivesting into other dice site.
Making a dice site is not as easy as you think. The user would need to create a custom back and front end with great features to attract users. It isn't easy to manage the advertising and the support of the dice site either. As a start, you need to have at least 1000 BTC for people to be interested to try out your dice site. You're responsible to take care of the security management too.
of course i know that its hard. Just like what i've said IF you have a decent amount you can pay others convert your some btc to pay them. For ME thats the best thing to do.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: sana9821 on October 28, 2015, 09:51:04 PM
if i were you i wouldnt invest in any dice websites as at any time they might turn to a scam and runaway with all your money


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: MadeinCoin on October 28, 2015, 10:01:08 PM
if i were you i wouldnt invest in any dice websites as at any time they might turn to a scam and runaway with all your money
scam can happen anywhere any investment has risk , a bank also risk scam  ;D


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ajun96 on October 28, 2015, 11:22:56 PM


where I can see the list of gambling sites, where can I invest on there
i need review about it ?
Dicesites.com is a good one, providing a comprehensive overview of the stats.
yeah thanks i can find it,
investment in pocketrocketdice seems is a great idea, what do you think about it ?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: darkangel11 on October 28, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
if i were you i wouldnt invest in any dice websites as at any time they might turn to a scam and runaway with all your money
scam can happen anywhere any investment has risk , a bank also risk scam  ;D

That's true. A dice site investment is like any other. You have to do the research first and there are chances the site will go bankrupt, but what are we even talking about here? If bitcoin dies all those casinos will disappear along with it.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: TriggerX on October 29, 2015, 12:03:30 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: patt0 on October 29, 2015, 12:12:56 AM
if i were you i wouldnt invest in any dice websites as at any time they might turn to a scam and runaway with all your money
scam can happen anywhere any investment has risk , a bank also risk scam  ;D

That's true. A dice site investment is like any other. You have to do the research first and there are chances the site will go bankrupt, but what are we even talking about here? If bitcoin dies all those casinos will disappear along with it.

That is true if BTC dies so does all those gambling sites. But on the other hand I think one thing that will keep BTC alive if the gambling industry as well. They have a very good synergy in my opinion.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 29, 2015, 03:38:57 AM
Why not make your own dice site hire a person to do a site for you i think its better a choice if you have a decent amount of bitcoin rather than ivesting into other dice site.
Making a dice site is not as easy as you think. The user would need to create a custom back and front end with great features to attract users. It isn't easy to manage the advertising and the support of the dice site either. As a start, you need to have at least 1000 BTC for people to be interested to try out your dice site. You're responsible to take care of the security management too.
of course i know that its hard. Just like what i've said IF you have a decent amount you can pay others convert your some btc to pay them. For ME thats the best thing to do.
I would personally not pay anyone else to code tbh. If I do, I'm basically risking the security of my casino to someone else and I'll be held liable if my casino gets hacked.


where I can see the list of gambling sites, where can I invest on there
i need review about it ?
Dicesites.com is a good one, providing a comprehensive overview of the stats.
yeah thanks i can find it,
investment in pocketrocketdice seems is a great idea, what do you think about it ?
They're quite stable IMO, they have been around for a long time and I haven't seen any problems with their withdrawals. There is however some issues with their referral commissions.
Some issues highlighted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=97219


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: CasioK on October 29, 2015, 05:24:11 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.

Yes you can invest bitcoins you and play dice games. with your profits you can withdraw Clams. But there are lot of exchanges providing this exchange option like shapeshift also offers this even without any account you need to create.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: mark coins on October 29, 2015, 05:53:37 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.

yes dice investing doesnt guarantee a good return but the case in quite different for justdice as investing clams will give you staking so most likely you will get your investment into profit :)


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: bitedge on October 29, 2015, 09:02:48 AM
Where do you think is the best place to invest in dice website? Into new and unknown website with small bankroll or in trusted but with huge bankroll website?

A year ago I did both, actually I invested BTC1 at 9 different sites. Most sites either scammed me or stopped offering investment. I am tracking the results of all the investments here

https://bitroll.com/bitcoin-dice-guide/mathematically-profitable-dice-betting/

I advise against investing until someone figures out how to do it in a trustless way.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ShetKid on October 29, 2015, 09:07:36 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.

yes dice investing doesnt guarantee a good return but the case in quite different for justdice as investing clams will give you staking so most likely you will get your investment into profit :)

Clam is way too much volatile for having a good investment. It can sway either way even if you investment is being profited from staking. In terms of clam bitcoin probably outperformed it. But from here on I would put my money on clams.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: kostya.ash on October 29, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: bank of bits on October 29, 2015, 11:13:54 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.
maybe the problem lies in changing into clam
we know the price of clam tends to down, despite a profit but if clam prices continue to down, it makes dizziness


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 29, 2015, 11:19:17 AM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money
Yes. I feel that it is more of a confidence issue than anything else. The hufflepuff (https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.orc2z8wlg) incident speaks for this issue. Doolgus(Owner of Justdice) opened clams as he wasn't very comfortable handling large sums of money. For primedice, they have quite some downtimes which would just piss of investors. Additionally, they have to find a way to allow the investors to know that they aren't cheating. Nevertheless, I would still trust them.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: harizen on October 29, 2015, 11:23:12 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.
maybe the problem lies in changing into clam
we know the price of clam tends to down, despite a profit but if clam prices continue to down, it makes dizziness

I staked 1 Clam a @just-dice months ago @ 600k satoshis price. After a month it grows by I think 10% but the bad news clams today is 70% below the price of when the time I buy one. Unlucky. My clams really grow but the value of it decrease.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: jaberwock on October 29, 2015, 01:54:16 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money
Yes. I feel that it is more of a confidence issue than anything else. The hufflepuff (https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.orc2z8wlg) incident speaks for this issue. Doolgus(Owner of Justdice) opened clams as he wasn't very comfortable handling large sums of money. For primedice, they have quite some downtimes which would just piss of investors. Additionally, they have to find a way to allow the investors to know that they aren't cheating. Nevertheless, I would still trust them.

Dooglus used clams in just dice because of regulations issues, one can't open a bitcoin casino in Canada because of the regulations, but nothing is said about clams.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: yanka50 on October 29, 2015, 02:00:29 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money
Yes. I feel that it is more of a confidence issue than anything else. The hufflepuff (https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.orc2z8wlg) incident speaks for this issue. Doolgus(Owner of Justdice) opened clams as he wasn't very comfortable handling large sums of money. For primedice, they have quite some downtimes which would just piss of investors. Additionally, they have to find a way to allow the investors to know that they aren't cheating. Nevertheless, I would still trust them.

Dooglus used clams in just dice because of regulations issues, one can't open a bitcoin casino in Canada because of the regulations, but nothing is said about clams.

Why he didn't just move the website servers into some other country, why is he operating from Canada?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: zcxvbs on October 29, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money
Yes. I feel that it is more of a confidence issue than anything else. The hufflepuff (https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.orc2z8wlg) incident speaks for this issue. Doolgus(Owner of Justdice) opened clams as he wasn't very comfortable handling large sums of money. For primedice, they have quite some downtimes which would just piss of investors. Additionally, they have to find a way to allow the investors to know that they aren't cheating. Nevertheless, I would still trust them.

Dooglus used clams in just dice because of regulations issues, one can't open a bitcoin casino in Canada because of the regulations, but nothing is said about clams.

Why he didn't just move the website servers into some other country, why is he operating from Canada?

Probably because he don't wanna leave Canada and moving servers outsides doesn't make sense, so this is his only option.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: leex1528 on October 29, 2015, 03:29:03 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money

From what I remember Stunna doesn't like to think that he owes people money from investing.  He has enough funds to cover his own site so why would he share his profit with other people?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Eastwind on October 29, 2015, 06:32:11 PM
Why primedice not open a place for investment?
I am sure a lot of people will invest on them
Stunna did not feel comfortable with people investing in them and their bankroll is great enough. They probably can't bear the responsibility of investments.
why feel not comfortable? stunna owner of primedice?
yeah their bankroll is great, it looks he often allot money
Yes. I feel that it is more of a confidence issue than anything else. The hufflepuff (https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d#.orc2z8wlg) incident speaks for this issue. Doolgus(Owner of Justdice) opened clams as he wasn't very comfortable handling large sums of money. For primedice, they have quite some downtimes which would just piss of investors. Additionally, they have to find a way to allow the investors to know that they aren't cheating. Nevertheless, I would still trust them.

Dooglus used clams in just dice because of regulations issues, one can't open a bitcoin casino in Canada because of the regulations, but nothing is said about clams.

Did Dooglus say that himself? There is no fundamental difference between bitcoin and clam or any other crypto currencies.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Nimbulan on October 29, 2015, 06:42:11 PM
i am interesting in investing my bitcoins to dice websites either though im too scared of loosing my money by investing it


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Coef on October 29, 2015, 07:18:08 PM
Dooglus used clams in just dice because of regulations issues, one can't open a bitcoin casino in Canada because of the regulations, but nothing is said about clams.

Did Dooglus say that himself? There is no fundamental difference between bitcoin and clam or any other crypto currencies.

I don't think dooglus has said that literally, but feel free to CMIIW. The official reasons for doog to reopen JD using clam can be found in this long post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg9772760#msg9772760.


-snip-

I considered relaunching with testnet coins, but figured it would increase the demand for testnet coins and interfere with their intended purpose of being readily available and testing BTC. CLAM seems like an ideal candidate since everyone who had any funded BTC, LTC, or DOGE addresses in May of this year already has some CLAM.

-snip-
So why was this reopened with CLAM? Why wasn't the reopening announced? Why add only CLAM and not BTC?

CLAM is cheap, and widely distributed. It's easy to get hold of, and many people already have it. BTC is expensive and an easy target for thieves. I didn't announce the reopening because I wanted a small, self-selected crowd to test it. There have been a small but loyal bunch of people hanging around the site ever since it shut down. It makes sense that they would be the most tolerant of the frequent restarts and even bugs that were likely to be part and parcel of the switch over to CLAM.

-snip-

But of course we all know JD was shut down because of the regulation issues (http://just-dice.blogspot.com/2014/06/betting-and-depositing-disabled-on-jd.html).


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: bank of bits on October 29, 2015, 11:01:39 PM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.
maybe the problem lies in changing into clam
we know the price of clam tends to down, despite a profit but if clam prices continue to down, it makes dizziness

I staked 1 Clam a @just-dice months ago @ 600k satoshis price. After a month it grows by I think 10% but the bad news clams today is 70% below the price of when the time I buy one. Unlucky. My clams really grow but the value of it decrease.
well that is a problem, even if we are lucky, but if the price falls, we may just not make a profit, or even loss

better investment using bitcoin, why JD did not make an investment option with bitcoin?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Superhitech on October 30, 2015, 01:30:18 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.
maybe the problem lies in changing into clam
we know the price of clam tends to down, despite a profit but if clam prices continue to down, it makes dizziness

I staked 1 Clam a @just-dice months ago @ 600k satoshis price. After a month it grows by I think 10% but the bad news clams today is 70% below the price of when the time I buy one. Unlucky. My clams really grow but the value of it decrease.
well that is a problem, even if we are lucky, but if the price falls, we may just not make a profit, or even loss

better investment using bitcoin, why JD did not make an investment option with bitcoin?

Just-Dice only accepts gambling with Clams; it would be weird not to accept bitcoin bets, but to accept bitcoin investments.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Decoded on October 30, 2015, 03:42:14 AM
I have currently invested 0.5 in satoshidice.com, let's hope my investment makes me something, not loses.

Id recommend just dice or satoshidice, maybe even moneypot. For luck with all your investments!


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: oozecoin on October 30, 2015, 04:31:47 AM
Who here is using Yobit? is their dice game legit? or a scam?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 30, 2015, 04:48:35 AM
If you don't mind converting your BTC into CLAM, I recommend using JustDice. I've heard many positive comments about the investing option there. But be careful, investing doesn't guarantee a return. Bet wisely.
maybe the problem lies in changing into clam
we know the price of clam tends to down, despite a profit but if clam prices continue to down, it makes dizziness

I staked 1 Clam a @just-dice months ago @ 600k satoshis price. After a month it grows by I think 10% but the bad news clams today is 70% below the price of when the time I buy one. Unlucky. My clams really grow but the value of it decrease.
well that is a problem, even if we are lucky, but if the price falls, we may just not make a profit, or even loss

better investment using bitcoin, why JD did not make an investment option with bitcoin?
JustDice had a investment with Bitcoin and changed to clams later on. I believe someone said it was because Clams is not easily changable with fiat at that time and would avoid regulatory issues.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Decoded on October 30, 2015, 05:19:02 AM
Dooglus used clams in just dice because of regulations issues, one can't open a bitcoin casino in Canada because of the regulations, but nothing is said about clams.

Did Dooglus say that himself? There is no fundamental difference between bitcoin and clam or any other crypto currencies.

I don't think dooglus has said that literally, but feel free to CMIIW. The official reasons for doog to reopen JD using clam can be found in this long post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg9772760#msg9772760.


-snip-

I considered relaunching with testnet coins, but figured it would increase the demand for testnet coins and interfere with their intended purpose of being readily available and testing BTC. CLAM seems like an ideal candidate since everyone who had any funded BTC, LTC, or DOGE addresses in May of this year already has some CLAM.

-snip-
So why was this reopened with CLAM? Why wasn't the reopening announced? Why add only CLAM and not BTC?

CLAM is cheap, and widely distributed. It's easy to get hold of, and many people already have it. BTC is expensive and an easy target for thieves. I didn't announce the reopening because I wanted a small, self-selected crowd to test it. There have been a small but loyal bunch of people hanging around the site ever since it shut down. It makes sense that they would be the most tolerant of the frequent restarts and even bugs that were likely to be part and parcel of the switch over to CLAM.

-snip-

But of course we all know JD was shut down because of the regulation issues (http://just-dice.blogspot.com/2014/06/betting-and-depositing-disabled-on-jd.html).
Well, Duglus chose just dice also because he controls a large majority of clams. ;D

I blame him for the recent price drop of clams...


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ranochigo on October 30, 2015, 05:27:06 AM
-snip-
Well, Duglus chose just dice also because he controls a large majority of clams. ;D

I blame him for the recent price drop of clams...
Doolgus OWNS JustDice and he does not control majority of the clams even with deposit addresses as they are moved almost instantly upon receiving the deposit. The reason for the drop of clam is the diggers dumping the coins.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Eastwind on October 30, 2015, 08:17:06 AM
-snip-
Well, Duglus chose just dice also because he controls a large majority of clams. ;D

I blame him for the recent price drop of clams...
Doolgus OWNS JustDice and he does not control majority of the clams even with deposit addresses as they are moved almost instantly upon receiving the deposit. The reason for the drop of clam is the diggers dumping the coins.

Doolgus earns Clam from JustDice. He has to make a living out of it. So he has to sell Clam to make his ends meet. That could be the reason for the drop of Clam price.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: shulio on October 30, 2015, 08:24:00 AM
-snip-
Well, Duglus chose just dice also because he controls a large majority of clams. ;D

I blame him for the recent price drop of clams...
Doolgus OWNS JustDice and he does not control majority of the clams even with deposit addresses as they are moved almost instantly upon receiving the deposit. The reason for the drop of clam is the diggers dumping the coins.

Doolgus earns Clam from JustDice. He has to make a living out of it. So he has to sell Clam to make his ends meet. That could be the reason for the drop of Clam price.

I know dooglus is a early adopter so he has a lot if bitcoin and should have already got a lot of profit from it. Also he get some from btc just dice before and he is not the reason of the drop of the price


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Eastwind on October 30, 2015, 09:45:59 AM
I have currently invested 0.5 in satoshidice.com, let's hope my investment makes me something, not loses.

Id recommend just dice or satoshidice, maybe even moneypot. For luck with all your investments!

How much do you expect to make for the 0.5 bitcoin investment? What is the time frame of that investment? Can you withdraw the investment by giving short notice?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: harizen on October 30, 2015, 09:51:31 AM
Who here is using Yobit? is their dice game legit? or a scam?

It's legit but the house edge there is high so it's really not recommended to play dice there. There are many much better dice site out there than Yobit's dice. Just browse in Gambling Section.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: frank26 on October 30, 2015, 09:59:36 AM
I have a horrible experience in dice investing.There is a big risk in dice investing.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on October 30, 2015, 10:07:22 AM
I will invest or play in trusted one with instant withdrawl and deposit function. Once i have got my fund stucked for 7+ days in one of the dice site which i came to know later doesn't have instant withdrawl function. They usually install that manual system to make you play more and more untill you lost whatever you have in your account.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: XinXan on October 30, 2015, 10:07:29 AM
Isn't investing in dice just like gambling? You surely can't have way better odds otherwise people would only profit and the casino would go broke. As far as i understand, you win money when someone on the casino loses, in the long term more people will lose in casinos so it seems like you would win money in the long term but it's not true, is it?


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: shulio on October 30, 2015, 10:13:50 AM
Isn't investing in dice just like gambling? You surely can't have way better odds otherwise people would only profit and the casino would go broke. As far as i understand, you win money when someone on the casino loses, in the long term more people will lose in casinos so it seems like you would win money in the long term but it's not true, is it?

It is true, in long term the casino always win. Check this dicesites.com and you can see many casino is getting profit and even if you see it is red now, check back next month or 2 month then it will be green again


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Anmol_Verma on October 30, 2015, 10:15:59 AM
Go for any popular and repulatble dice incvesting sites
like just dice,dadice and mine sweeper site like diggit because very less chance of risk.


Title: Re: Dice Investing
Post by: Dennis7777 on October 30, 2015, 11:20:57 PM
Isn't investing in dice just like gambling? You surely can't have way better odds otherwise people would only profit and the casino would go broke. As far as i understand, you win money when someone on the casino loses, in the long term more people will lose in casinos so it seems like you would win money in the long term but it's not true, is it?

Yup investing in the bankroll is like gambling but investors are on the same side as the house and are gambling against the ordinary players. With the house edge on your side, it actually gives you a positive EV and so investors should be in the plus side in the long term.