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Title: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 30, 2015, 05:11:09 AM
I just noticed that when making in-game purchases on Android devices, the only payment method is using telecom or credit card. Is there a way that purchases can be made through Bitcoin?

I think this is a great opportunity to make Bitcoin even more popular. Gamers will be introduced to using Bitcoin as a currency.

What do you think of this? Or is it already being implemented, and I am not just aware of it?


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 30, 2015, 09:33:44 AM
I just noticed that when making in-game purchases on Android devices, the only payment method is using telecom or credit card. Is there a way that purchases can be made through Bitcoin?

I think this is a great opportunity to make Bitcoin even more popular. Gamers will be introduced to using Bitcoin as a currency.

What do you think of this? Or is it already being implemented, and I am not just aware of it?

I think there are other games accepting bitcoin as payments but I think just a few in numbers

well introducing bitcoin in games as payment well curious players that doesn't have knowledge about bitcoin will research about it and use it for purchases in that game. ;D 


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: harizen on October 30, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
Like I posted in other thread. :)

What do you wish you could buy with btc ?


I like an instant game credits and ingame purchase of what I want in an online game. Im an online game enthusiast and I found it hassle to such any other payment method. With the help of bitcoin it will make an easy purchase.


Im not sure if some online games implemented this.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: amacar2 on October 30, 2015, 10:07:34 AM
I just noticed that when making in-game purchases on Android devices, the only payment method is using telecom or credit card. Is there a way that purchases can be made through Bitcoin?

I think this is a great opportunity to make Bitcoin even more popular. Gamers will be introduced to using Bitcoin as a currency.

What do you think of this? Or is it already being implemented, and I am not just aware of it?

I think there are other games accepting bitcoin as payments but I think just a few in numbers

well introducing bitcoin in games as payment well curious players that doesn't have knowledge about bitcoin will research about it and use it for purchases in that game. ;D 

I doubt there is, if the app is from the playstore and or appstore, the only option you got there is to use telecom and or creditcard, also paypal.
I've seen an app here that is being develop by a guy named BitTaky (I'm not sure). It's an appstore where you can use bitcoin to purchase an app, I don't know if in-app purchase is also included but I think it is.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: achow101 on October 30, 2015, 11:53:10 AM
It is possible to have in game purchases in mobile games, but those apps are either not published or are taken down from Google play and the appstore because alternative payment methods violate the terms and conditions.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 30, 2015, 12:01:15 PM
I just noticed that when making in-game purchases on Android devices, the only payment method is using telecom or credit card. Is there a way that purchases can be made through Bitcoin?

I think this is a great opportunity to make Bitcoin even more popular. Gamers will be introduced to using Bitcoin as a currency.

What do you think of this? Or is it already being implemented, and I am not just aware of it?

I think there are other games accepting bitcoin as payments but I think just a few in numbers

well introducing bitcoin in games as payment well curious players that doesn't have knowledge about bitcoin will research about it and use it for purchases in that game. ;D 

I doubt there is, if the app is from the playstore and or appstore, the only option you got there is to use telecom and or creditcard, also paypal.
I've seen an app here that is being develop by a guy named BitTaky (I'm not sure). It's an appstore where you can use bitcoin to purchase an app, I don't know if in-app purchase is also included but I think it is.

Then I guess it would be up to google or apple if they will recognize Bitcoin and accept it as payments. But if Bitcoin continues its track, it will not be long before they accept bitcoins.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 30, 2015, 12:09:02 PM
I doubt there is, if the app is from the playstore and or appstore, the only option you got there is to use telecom and or creditcard, also paypal.
I've seen an app here that is being develop by a guy named BitTaky (I'm not sure). It's an appstore where you can use bitcoin to purchase an app, I don't know if in-app purchase is also included but I think it is.

But I think that there are few, I know there are android application that can gain bitcoins why does there isn't any game that could buy game necessities it will be great, and it will be a secure transaction for both parties. 


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jacee on October 30, 2015, 12:14:11 PM
I doubt there is, if the app is from the playstore and or appstore, the only option you got there is to use telecom and or creditcard, also paypal.
I've seen an app here that is being develop by a guy named BitTaky (I'm not sure). It's an appstore where you can use bitcoin to purchase an app, I don't know if in-app purchase is also included but I think it is.

But I think that there are few, I know there are android application that can gain bitcoins why does there isn't any game that could buy game necessities it will be great, and it will be a secure transaction for both parties. 

You can find plenty of apps that could earn you some coins but the inapp purchasing is based on googles policy and not the application developer. You could look maybe for an app outside google or apple but I doubt there is much as there is really not much of bitcoin applications that requires purchasing.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: tiggytomb on October 30, 2015, 12:20:11 PM
There is one company that I am aware of that have created a few games that allow you to play against others and gain some bitcoin as a reward, when you download the pro version from their site you can also deposit BTC and use that to gamble on your game.  Play store does not allow a 'gambling' app so it needs to be downloaded from their site in order to play using your BTC the games are pretty cool and addictive.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835437.0


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 30, 2015, 01:23:26 PM
I doubt there is, if the app is from the playstore and or appstore, the only option you got there is to use telecom and or creditcard, also paypal.
I've seen an app here that is being develop by a guy named BitTaky (I'm not sure). It's an appstore where you can use bitcoin to purchase an app, I don't know if in-app purchase is also included but I think it is.

But I think that there are few, I know there are android application that can gain bitcoins why does there isn't any game that could buy game necessities it will be great, and it will be a secure transaction for both parties. 

You can find plenty of apps that could earn you some coins but the inapp purchasing is based on googles policy and not the application developer. You could look maybe for an app outside google or apple but I doubt there is much as there is really not much of bitcoin applications that requires purchasing.

Then there is nothing we can do. Unless Google change their policy, we have to stick to using paypal or cards in making inapp purchases. The most we could hope is that demand gets high enough that google or apple are forced to adopt in using cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: traderbit on October 30, 2015, 01:28:02 PM
Even if it is implemented i think that it will not be useful.
Because the merchant needs at lest to have 1 confirmation then release the game credit/powerups to the user.
Even though it can be done instantly without any confirmation but that would be risky.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 30, 2015, 01:33:31 PM
There is one company that I am aware of that have created a few games that allow you to play against others and gain some bitcoin as a reward, when you download the pro version from their site you can also deposit BTC and use that to gamble on your game.  Play store does not allow a 'gambling' app so it needs to be downloaded from their site in order to play using your BTC the games are pretty cool and addictive.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835437.0


Yes there are apps that offers rewards in Bitcoin. But what I meant here is apps that let us make our in game purchases (like gems in COC) in BTC.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 30, 2015, 01:50:27 PM
Even if it is implemented i think that it will not be useful.
Because the merchant needs at lest to have 1 confirmation then release the game credit/powerups to the user.
Even though it can be done instantly without any confirmation but that would be risky.

Oh I see. We do not want to take that risk. We love bitcoin because of security in transactions.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: traderbit on October 30, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
Even if it is implemented i think that it will not be useful.
Because the merchant needs at lest to have 1 confirmation then release the game credit/powerups to the user.
Even though it can be done instantly without any confirmation but that would be risky.

Oh I see. We do not want to take that risk. We love bitcoin because of security in transactions.

The transaction are secure only after 1 confirmation at least.
Some require 3 confirmation and some other up to 6 confirmation.
And for a gamer the waiting time is a lot, which is not preferred in general.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: harizen on October 30, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
I see this way will work too,

Familiar with mol.com? It's an online game reloading site. It supports most of the online game but adding game credits there are not yet possible thru bitcoin payment. If mol.com will adopt bitcoin then purchasing in-game items in all of its supported games are possible.

But how about those that not supported by this reloading site like COC?

One way is, if Google will allow us to reload our Google wallet thru bitcoin. This is much better than direct payment in-game to avoid confirmation time. This is already discussed in the past but I don't know the current status of it now.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: YuginKadoya on October 31, 2015, 09:31:44 AM
I see this way will work too,

Familiar with mol.com? It's an online game reloading site. It supports most of the online game but adding game credits there are not yet possible thru bitcoin payment. If mol.com will adopt bitcoin then purchasing in-game items in all of its supported games are possible.

But how about those that not supported by this reloading site like COC?

One way is, if Google will allow us to reload our Google wallet thru bitcoin. This is much better than direct payment in-game to avoid confirmation time. This is already discussed in the past but I don't know the current status of it now.

I Think this is a good idea, but if mol.com and google play will collaborate with bitcoin? well atleast their transactions will be safe to government issues or maybe taxes too hehe well I have heard certain issues with paypal before, and I think paypal need to learn something from bitcoin.

I wish to see those discussion but maybe it has been 120 days old now and they never bother to post on there anymore so I think maybe we can recreate a new one. :P


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: Xialla on October 31, 2015, 10:49:08 AM
I see another problem, not with bitcoin itself but with this stupid in-app/game purchases model - it will disappear, sooner or later..


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: Nobitcoin on October 31, 2015, 10:52:25 AM
I see another problem, not with bitcoin itself but with this stupid in-app/game purchases model - it will disappear, sooner or later..

That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: Xialla on October 31, 2015, 10:55:32 AM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: Emerge on October 31, 2015, 11:49:40 AM
I see this way will work too,

Familiar with mol.com? It's an online game reloading site. It supports most of the online game but adding game credits there are not yet possible thru bitcoin payment. If mol.com will adopt bitcoin then purchasing in-game items in all of its supported games are possible.

But how about those that not supported by this reloading site like COC?

One way is, if Google will allow us to reload our Google wallet thru bitcoin. This is much better than direct payment in-game to avoid confirmation time. This is already discussed in the past but I don't know the current status of it now.

DragonPay accepts Bitcoin, which is a payment gateway in MOL :)


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: lumeire on October 31, 2015, 11:56:13 AM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

That was the way back in the old days, but having people to buy the game plus offer in-game items for sale is much more profitable. Just look as CSGO, you pay to get the game then pay more to get cool stuff and bonuses. Its the perfect business model.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: Xialla on October 31, 2015, 12:02:20 PM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

That was the way back in the old days, but having people to buy the game plus offer in-game items for sale is much more profitable. Just look as CSGO, you pay to get the game then pay more to get cool stuff and bonuses. Its the perfect business model.

ahh, but you are mixing 2 things and models:

1* core game is free (dota2) or paid (csgo) and you are paying only for skins, models and "cool stuff" - so for VISUAL stuff and not real in-game advantage.
2* core game is free or paid and you are paying for "something", what gives you REAL advantage over other players. (you can reset cool-down, buy some building/sword with extra power, you don't need to grind..etc etc) - this model is known as pay2win

first concept is absolutely fine, because even non-paying players have same starting line as paying ones. second one is shitty, because if you are not paying, you will loose. sooner or later. got my point now?


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: JeWay on October 31, 2015, 12:44:59 PM
Asking for Bitcoin payment in android purchase is just like asking Google to use Bitcoin.
Because Google owns Android


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: u9y42 on October 31, 2015, 03:48:10 PM
That was the way back in the old days, but having people to buy the game plus offer in-game items for sale is much more profitable. Just look as CSGO, you pay to get the game then pay more to get cool stuff and bonuses. Its the perfect business model.

ahh, but you are mixing 2 things and models:

1* core game is free (dota2) or paid (csgo) and you are paying only for skins, models and "cool stuff" - so for VISUAL stuff and not real in-game advantage.
2* core game is free or paid and you are paying for "something", what gives you REAL advantage over other players. (you can reset cool-down, buy some building/sword with extra power, you don't need to grind..etc etc) - this model is known as pay2win

first concept is absolutely fine, because even non-paying players have same starting line as paying ones. second one is shitty, because if you are not paying, you will loose. sooner or later. got my point now?

Overall, I agree with that distinction and, whenever possible, avoid the second type of games for the very reason you put forward.

However, I'm not sure the games that allow you to avoid the grinding elements are necessarily giving players that much of an unfair advantage: I mean, it's certainly a tangible advantage, as opposed to a token reward, like "cool looking stuff" would be, and largely depends on the implementation but, if done properly and within sensible limits, it doesn't necessarily break the game; rather, it can just spare players the time that they may otherwise not have to put into those portions of the game, and monetize it for the developers. That can be easily abused, of course, if players can just buy the "super-end-of-game gear", but otherwise, it can be a sensible compromise, I think.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jeffthebaker on October 31, 2015, 03:56:52 PM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

That was the way back in the old days, but having people to buy the game plus offer in-game items for sale is much more profitable. Just look as CSGO, you pay to get the game then pay more to get cool stuff and bonuses. Its the perfect business model.

ahh, but you are mixing 2 things and models:

1* core game is free (dota2) or paid (csgo) and you are paying only for skins, models and "cool stuff" - so for VISUAL stuff and not real in-game advantage.
2* core game is free or paid and you are paying for "something", what gives you REAL advantage over other players. (you can reset cool-down, buy some building/sword with extra power, you don't need to grind..etc etc) - this model is known as pay2win

first concept is absolutely fine, because even non-paying players have same starting line as paying ones. second one is shitty, because if you are not paying, you will loose. sooner or later. got my point now?

You are right, it is an absolutely shitty game model, but it's what brings in the most money. At the end of the day, game devs are in the market to earn a profit, and freemium mobile games are the way to earn the biggest profit.

In regards to OP, Spells of Genesis is going to use Bitcoin for in app purchases, but it's not released yet. They are using their own digital currency called BitCrystals that can be purchased with Bitcoin, and you will also be able to purchase card packs with bitcoin from the site directly.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 31, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

Actually this is their way of coping up with their games being pirated. As soon as the installer has been pirated, income stops. But with inapp purchases, as long as there are new levels to unlock, or goals to achieve, gamers will still purchase and income never stops. This is also the reason why it is best for bitcoin if it can be integrated into inapp purchases.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jakelyson on October 31, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
Asking for Bitcoin payment in android purchase is just like asking Google to use Bitcoin.
Because Google owns Android

Exactly. I read in a thread that Microsoft once was accepting bitcoin. Unfortunately, it is temporarily stopped. So maybe, Google can also adopt and accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: anthonycamp on October 31, 2015, 04:54:19 PM
you are soo developed we still not have eltrecity into my house lol well its a common factor that takes time to btc to be used more.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: jeffthebaker on October 31, 2015, 05:01:04 PM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

Actually this is their way of coping up with their games being pirated. As soon as the installer has been pirated, income stops. But with inapp purchases, as long as there are new levels to unlock, or goals to achieve, gamers will still purchase and income never stops. This is also the reason why it is best for bitcoin if it can be integrated into inapp purchases.

Do you have a source for this? Freemium models dominate the gaming industry right now because they are infinitely more profitable. Clash of Clans shattered earnings records for mobile games under this model, and many others have followed their lead, earning millions of millions along the way.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: Nobitcoin on October 31, 2015, 07:20:59 PM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

The reason for InApp purchases so the game developers say is the blatant piracy of their games which maybe true but some of the games have advertisments unless you purchase items to remove them gets very tedious.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 02, 2015, 02:00:27 PM
you are soo developed we still not have eltrecity into my house lol well its a common factor that takes time to btc to be used more.

Well I totally don't understand what are you trying to say here, I think your trying to say is, OP is so developed that you still don't have electricity at home and it is a common factor that BTC is gonna use more? or OP is so developed that you still don't have electricity at home and it is a common factor that you will take time to get BTC more! is that it, if that is the case
your post is off topic! :p or maybe? I will just wait if what will you gonna say


sorry bro I know your still a newbie, but at least try to post in the right topic hehe


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: traderbit on November 02, 2015, 11:28:17 PM
OP have you tried to experiment with the Bitpay.
I think that they do not require 1 confirmation, do they?
Dell and newegg what method have they implemented.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: croato on November 04, 2015, 04:57:20 PM
I am playing Stronghold Kingdoms both on Windows PC and on android tablet. You can purchase firefly crowns in game using Bitcoin there no problem. I am buying crowns every month, and transaction is  instant and without any problem. Few of us was asking that constantly on forum and contacting game support for a while, true, but they finally make that possible before few months.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: XinXan on November 05, 2015, 10:15:21 AM
I wonder how much the price would increase if something like league of legends accepted bitcoins as a payment method, bitcoin would go crazy, im pretty sure. Anyways in the future more and more companies will accept bitcoin, although because of its volatility it's somewhat risky.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: hopenotlate on November 05, 2015, 10:22:22 AM
That's how the game developers make there most money through InApp purchases take Candy Crush for example they built an empire with just that game.

I know.

call me old-school controversial stupid, but I prefer to buy game for 4.99USD (or any amount) from store, than get it "for free" and then pay for some gems or other digital goods, which makes the game somehow playable and little bit enjoyable.

then...I am an old-school controversial stupid as well :-\


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 05, 2015, 01:18:27 PM
I wonder how much the price would increase if something like league of legends accepted bitcoins as a payment method, bitcoin would go crazy, im pretty sure. Anyways in the future more and more companies will accept bitcoin, although because of its volatility it's somewhat risky.

What if your playing League of legends then your earning bitcoin what do you think? hehe but I think bitcoin and LOL would be a good tandem, and I think even in many kind of games services of bitcoin is great.


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: defaultking on November 05, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
An altcoin called Hyper was created for this very reason. There are servers set-up that players can do in game transactions using hyper in minecraft and I think there are some counter strike servers that award hyper based on performance. Finally, there is a game called dragonknights of valeria (I think) that award hyper and other in game currencies for chatting in the game and completing task like leveling. This doesn't answer your direct question, but it's neat to think that maybe Hyper will be the bitcoin of the gaming world and maybe start paying for game subscriptions using hyper or bitcoin would be awesome!


Title: Re: In-game purchases using bitcoin
Post by: eternalgloom on November 05, 2015, 09:12:13 PM
It would certainly be a great alternative over payments by phone credit, those fees are pretty huge.
But I'm not sure if Bitcoin is mainstream enough already for that to work.