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Title: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: pandher on November 01, 2015, 09:42:23 AM
Australia is going to start testing passport-less travel soon. Your information and travel history will be stored online. Including Biometrics (Fingerprints, Retina, DNA).

If this technology is adopted by other nations, i am very sure it will be. We will be saying goodbye to our privacy in the near future :-\

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/government-proposes-cloud-passport-trial-for-document-free-travel/ (http://www.cnet.com/au/news/government-proposes-cloud-passport-trial-for-document-free-travel/)


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: isvicre on November 01, 2015, 10:10:34 AM
Oh my god. This is very very dangerous move. I would not agree to give that much info out to government.
This is worse than looking for our internet history or phone usage.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: 1990BEARS on November 03, 2015, 06:27:31 AM
this is very dangerous...identify theft level for australia will be huge after this!!!


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: apollofire on November 03, 2015, 10:01:59 AM
Thats the future. I am really excited about this. This is amazing news. This will be beneficial in many ways for people well as passport authorities


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: bitrev on November 03, 2015, 10:25:57 AM
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We wouldn't do it if it were not able to be secure. We are just trialling new ideas and we are just in the early stages of discussion

Right, I don't trust a word of this minister. We can all say goodbye to our privacy. Bye bye.
The way I see it the goverment wants to control their people in any way that they can. They want to know where you are, who you're with, time and date, all that bullcrap. You can't live your life in peace anymore without the goverment knowing.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: Andrelvogue on November 03, 2015, 10:31:54 AM
Well that suck but Australia they have always been strict about this.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: de_bit on November 03, 2015, 12:32:37 PM
Well I guess it would be useful if and aussie lost his passport.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: countryfree on November 03, 2015, 11:52:49 PM
It's getting worse and worse. It's one thing I hate when I'm at an airport when a guy checks everywhere I've been before. The guy looks back at me, then he looks back at my passport, because somehow traveling a lot like I do, makes me suspicious of I don't know what.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: panju1 on November 04, 2015, 04:08:19 PM
If this technology is adopted by other nations, i am very sure it will be. We will be saying goodbye to our privacy in the near future :-\

Australia has just started testing this. Plus it would be very difficult for all countries to agree on something like this.



Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: pandher on November 05, 2015, 12:40:42 PM
Australia has just started testing this. Plus it would be very difficult for all countries to agree on something like this.

Australia is deploying it in Australian-NewZealand borders. The project is well past testing if you learn the government talking. Australia has stopped stamping visa labels on passports this september and everything is now on VEVO cloud.

Also if you look at Canadian immigration laws, everything is a copy of Australian system, each condition. The e-medical system Australia uses has been adopted by Canada as it is. I am very sure Canada will join soon with more to follow


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: RustyNomad on November 05, 2015, 12:55:38 PM
This might work for travel between Australia and New Zealand at this stage but I cannot see this rolling out very quickly on a worldwide scale.

In order for that to be done it would mean that all countries would need to be on similar systems and I cannot see that happening within the next decade. It might get as far as traveling to maybe the US and Europe but other than that you will still need your physical passport.

My first concern, as others have already mentioned, is the security related aspects. This will be a prime target for the hackers of the world. Why just hack a company for their records if you can rather hack a country for all the information on its citizens.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: hoian0809 on November 05, 2015, 01:27:40 PM
Don't forget the controversy over government ministers (for example in the UK) quietly revoking people's citizenship while they are out of the country. Having a system in which you are a citizen if the government database says so and not otherwise could become very risky.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: Zaun on November 05, 2015, 01:51:24 PM
No thank you.

I read the article but nobody in this world can say that they can keep the info 100% safe and secure

That's why hackers exsist in this world.

I would rather this not develop further and just use my regular passport as I always have


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: Djisamsoe on November 05, 2015, 02:12:31 PM
If I remember correctly, already few years ago it was like trying to with scanner to study the eye lens  in the United States. As you can see, not really successful, because so far in airports never seen anything like this..  ::)


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: techboy2 on November 07, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Awesome.

Would make it difficult for fraudsters.

I just hope this comes to India soon as well. A great move by Australia.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: HarryKPeters on November 07, 2015, 05:52:29 PM
Terrible move regarding privacy, the governement can't be that arrogant to forice this onto their own citizens right?


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: bitcoinhopper on November 07, 2015, 08:40:25 PM
This goes against every privacy law?

BTW what if their site got hacked?? Then all the data of aussies are open? Ridiculous plan for my austrialian mates.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: GermanFoobla on November 08, 2015, 01:44:29 AM
I agree with the sentiments but I look at the benefits too. You give a little privacy and in return things will get a lot saver to say the least.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: Trifixion713 on November 09, 2015, 08:08:55 AM
I agree with the sentiments but I look at the benefits too. You give a little privacy and in return things will get a lot saver to say the least.

One of the oldest tricks in the book and it has worked on a grand scale here in the post-9/11 US with such atrocities as the "Patriot" Act - don't ever fall for that line of b.s.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: NordicRanger on November 09, 2015, 08:35:05 AM
I'd rather not see this happen

Once their servers get hacked everything will be out in the open

seems a little too vulnerable to me


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: Hazir on November 09, 2015, 08:39:36 AM
I am not surprised there. Bio metrics documents are unfortunately a song of the future, song with bad tunes in it.
We will be soon numbered, cataloged, sampled and chipped with some microprocessor. Future from dark Cyberpunk movies are at our doorstep.


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: RealBitcoin on November 09, 2015, 10:18:57 AM
pretty totalitarian, so the want to implant a GPS under your skin next?


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: LondonTrader on November 22, 2015, 12:56:36 AM
Hi

This is a pretty bad idea as hackers are just lining up to scam people and citizens should be very wary of this idea
 
Bye


Title: Re: Australia testing Cloud Passport
Post by: msc_de on November 22, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
Australia is going to start testing passport-less travel soon. Your information and travel history will be stored online. Including Biometrics (Fingerprints, Retina, DNA).

If this technology is adopted by other nations, i am very sure it will be. We will be saying goodbye to our privacy in the near future :-\

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/government-proposes-cloud-passport-trial-for-document-free-travel/ (http://www.cnet.com/au/news/government-proposes-cloud-passport-trial-for-document-free-travel/)

agree