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Title: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: toinew on November 04, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Hi guys, i'm personnally a perma bear and im currently shorting from 450. Im in red now but my sl is at 530 so i'm still in so far.
How about you guys  ???


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: TReano on November 04, 2015, 06:34:31 PM
being bearish doesn't mean you can't ride the wave to the upside...


Violent parabolic moves aren't sustainable over time... A lot of people fomo buying at parabolic moves will be the guys who close their position at a lose eventually and make the move correct to the other direction.


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: toinew on November 06, 2015, 06:05:53 PM
im currently shorting from 450.
How about you guys  ???

My short closed at 410$, could have made more but still good profit  8)


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: gentlemand on November 06, 2015, 06:17:15 PM
It's relatively simple to guess what they believe will happen without even having to ask. The clue is in the name 'perma bear'.


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: MatTheCat on November 06, 2015, 06:26:59 PM
Hi guys, i'm personnally a perma bear and im currently shorting from 450. Im in red now but my sl is at 530 so i'm still in so far.
How about you guys  ???

Pffft....

I was a perma-bear for fucking months and months, pretty much right from the double top....never made much money, actually I lost money overall, cos I am a fucking shite trader.

However.....I am pretty good at reading the general course of the market.

If you guys can't see that the bear trend has reversed itself with the break out above the 'accumulation zone' (sub $300), then you can't read markets. Next real resistance in the long term, is up at about $800, where the 61.8% Fib Retracement is from the $1160 - $150 correction.

I would for one would not be going short Bitcoin right at this point in time....Sure it will correct, and correct fucking heavily, but the potential for the upside to exceed all expectation will prove lethal for many bears with short positions. From $330, all the way up to $505, the charts were screaming SELL SELL SELL, But when Bitcoin goes off like a rocket, there is no predicting it. Try to catch the top at your peril.

I would close your short position now (currently $385), and take what still is some tidy profits.....cos Bitcoin's next target, is the 61.8% Fib retracement of the $500 - $350 correction, which just so happens to be around the $450 zone. Perhaps $450 will prove resistance too much for Bitcoin, but even if it does, you will have to sit and witness your position going from however many thousands in the green, to practically fuck all in the green, or maybe even some in the red. I couldn't tell you how many times I have done that myself, and even ended up taking losses on what were winning short trades (and long trades as well for that matter).


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: sgbett on November 06, 2015, 06:43:15 PM
Hi guys, i'm personnally a perma bear and im currently shorting from 450. Im in red now but my sl is at 530 so i'm still in so far.
How about you guys  ???

Pffft....

I was a perma-bear for fucking months and months, pretty much right from the double top....never made much money, actually I lost money overall, cos I am a fucking shite trader.

However.....I am pretty good at reading the general course of the market.

If you guys can't see that the bear trend has reversed itself with the break out above the 'accumulation zone' (sub $300), then you can't read markets. Next real resistance in the long term, is up at about $800, where the 61.8% Fib Retracement is from the $1160 - $150 correction.

I would for one would not be going short Bitcoin right at this point in time....Sure it will correct, and correct fucking heavily, but the potential for the upside to exceed all expectation will prove lethal for many bears with short positions. From $330, all the way up to $505, the charts were screaming SELL SELL SELL, But when Bitcoin goes off like a rocket, there is no predicting it. Try to catch the top at your peril.

I would close your short position now (currently $385), and take what still is some tidy profits.....cos Bitcoin's next target, is the 61.8% Fib retracement of the $500 - $350 correction, which just so happens to be around the $450 zone. Perhaps $450 will prove resistance too much for Bitcoin, but even if it does, you will have to sit and witness your position going from however many thousands in the green, to practically fuck all in the green, or maybe even some in the red. I couldn't tell you how many times I have done that myself, and even ended up taking losses on what were winning short trades (and long trades as well for that matter).

Reliable and good sources confirm this.

(Nice to see you :))


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: Dilla on November 06, 2015, 07:29:34 PM
I don't understand permabear mentality. Isn't it a contradiction?


Title: Re: what do the perma bear think about the current situation (price 470 atm)
Post by: toinew on November 06, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
I don't understand permabear mentality. Isn't it a contradiction?

that could be someone who think bitcoin won't succeed on the long term, as simple as that.









for me i was bull on bitcoin, i bought 10 of them this summer, but then the censorship on reddit just disgusted me. I realized how few people can decide. I realized how bitcoin can be substantially changed by either the devs or the miners, and that they have too much power imo  for the coin to go big.
So yes, there are permabulls, and there are permabears

But of course, i believe now the trend is bull.