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Title: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: MemoryDealers on November 08, 2015, 03:49:26 AM This seems like a super super positive sign! https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-mike-hearn-creator-of-lighthouse-bitcoinj-and-bitcoin-xt-ask-me-anything-t2207-20.html#p6183 (https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-mike-hearn-creator-of-lighthouse-bitcoinj-and-bitcoin-xt-ask-me-anything-t2207-20.html#p6183) Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: chek2fire on November 09, 2015, 12:46:27 AM I think Mike Hearn has atm the worst reputation in bitcoin community.
Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: hdbuck on November 09, 2015, 02:02:36 AM lel
if he is even too dumb to not go there he will be finished with ostracizing himself into cryptoshame :P Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: Zarathustra on November 09, 2015, 08:29:19 AM BIP101 forced Adam to react and he is now proposing 2-4-8 all the time.
Core now has the choice to choose between raising the limit or to be forked off. Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: coinpr0n on November 09, 2015, 11:20:29 AM In his answer Mike Hearn basically blows him off. I guess he may really not see a solution but it seems to me as though he is just being stubborn at this point. Anyway, to each his own.
Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: BillyBobZorton on November 09, 2015, 01:04:39 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this.
Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: bambou on November 09, 2015, 01:28:13 PM The guy's a joke in the technical community.
He is so done, along with his shitcoin.. It's so not like Bitcoin needs him or his gavin pal or them corporation conglo-shit-gov-merate, but fuck who would even want to be friend with such a dickhead in a first place? http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/200/media/images/71391000/jpg/_71391481_mike-cowboy-hat.jpg Lmao, i know this is free ad homs - insert whining here - , I just cant help it. Anyway, good riddance and have a nice day! :D edit: and roger, this is a new low coming from you pal.. are you getting bored in japan now or what? Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: brg444 on November 09, 2015, 01:34:23 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. Exactly. I have argued in the past that anyone telling you that "you don't have to run a full node" is making a direct attempt at your monetary sovereignty and you should consider them an enemy of financial freedom. Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: Zarathustra on November 09, 2015, 02:27:53 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: brg444 on November 09, 2015, 02:42:23 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto He also said this: Quote While network nodes can verify transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to confirm the inconsistency This type of fraud proof, which is necessary to make SPV truly secure, does not currently exist. Your argument to authority is also rather unfortunate given the frankly poor analogy used by Satoshi (NNTP servers vs full nodes) Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: Zarathustra on November 09, 2015, 02:50:16 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto He also said this: Quote While network nodes can verify transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to confirm the inconsistency This type of fraud proof, which is necessary to make SPV truly secure, does not currently exist. Your argument to authority is also rather unfortunate given the frankly poor analogy used by Satoshi (NNTP servers vs full nodes) Adam: "2-4-8" You'll get bigger blocks soonish. If blockstream core is not able to reach conensus, they'll be history as a leading group of devs. Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: brg444 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:43 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto He also said this: Quote While network nodes can verify transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to confirm the inconsistency This type of fraud proof, which is necessary to make SPV truly secure, does not currently exist. Your argument to authority is also rather unfortunate given the frankly poor analogy used by Satoshi (NNTP servers vs full nodes) Adam: "2-4-8" You'll get bigger blocks soonish. If blockstream core is not able to reach conensus, they'll be history as a leading group of devs. You sound insecure. Spare us your blockstream obsession you psycho. Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: Zarathustra on November 09, 2015, 02:55:13 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto He also said this: Quote While network nodes can verify transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to confirm the inconsistency This type of fraud proof, which is necessary to make SPV truly secure, does not currently exist. Your argument to authority is also rather unfortunate given the frankly poor analogy used by Satoshi (NNTP servers vs full nodes) Adam: "2-4-8" You'll get bigger blocks soonish. If blockstream core is not able to reach conensus, they'll be history as a leading group of devs. You sound insecure. Spare us your blockstream obsession you psycho. Adam is forced to push now, which is great. Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: brg444 on November 09, 2015, 02:57:50 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto He also said this: Quote While network nodes can verify transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to confirm the inconsistency This type of fraud proof, which is necessary to make SPV truly secure, does not currently exist. Your argument to authority is also rather unfortunate given the frankly poor analogy used by Satoshi (NNTP servers vs full nodes) Adam: "2-4-8" You'll get bigger blocks soonish. If blockstream core is not able to reach conensus, they'll be history as a leading group of devs. You sound insecure. Spare us your blockstream obsession you psycho. Adam is forced to push now, which is great. No one cares about your love affair for Adam. He's not pushing anything he's merely brandishing a bone to occupy the retards' attention while adults are doing the work. Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: hdbuck on November 09, 2015, 03:01:02 PM Everything that doesn't allow Bitcoin to run nodes on the average Joe's computer is an attack to Bitcoin. We have enough evidence to know that 8MB blocks will be way too much in the coming years too. Im just not sure what Mike Hearn wants with all of this. The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. Satoshi Nakamoto He also said this: Quote While network nodes can verify transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to confirm the inconsistency This type of fraud proof, which is necessary to make SPV truly secure, does not currently exist. Your argument to authority is also rather unfortunate given the frankly poor analogy used by Satoshi (NNTP servers vs full nodes) Adam: "2-4-8" You'll get bigger blocks soonish. If blockstream core is not able to reach conensus, they'll be history as a leading group of devs. You sound insecure. Spare us your blockstream obsession you psycho. Adam is forced to push now, which is great. No one cares about your love affair for Adam. He's not pushing anything he's merely brandishing a bone to occupy the retards' attention while adults are doing the work. at least now he is done sucking on hearns dick to play with adams.. such an authority sucker.. hummm yumee yumeee :D ps: im guessing daddy issues. ^^ Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: Kprawn on November 09, 2015, 03:03:03 PM It was Mike's arrogance that put him in this position in the first place. He wanted to seize control over Bitcoin and in doing so divided the developer community. He thought his alliance
with Gavin would put him in a better position and it failed. Now we are left with a divided community fighting each other over block sizes. We should just ignore this whole fiasco and continue what we doing now, because it's working and we are nowhere near to capacity. {Let's just kick the can, down the road} ::) Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: brg444 on November 09, 2015, 03:07:47 PM It was Mike's arrogance that put him in this position in the first place. He wanted to seize control over Bitcoin and in doing so divided the developer community. He thought his alliance with Gavin would put him in a better position and it failed. Now we are left with a divided community fighting each other over block sizes. We should just ignore this whole fiasco and continue what we doing now, because it's working and we are nowhere near to capacity. {Let's just kick the can, down the road} ::) Core devs are doing just that and putting in work right about now. 40 commits to the GitHub repo since the beginning on the month. Last XT commit was October 23rd :D :D Title: Re: Adam Back asks Mike Hearn in AMA about scaling bitcoin by coming together! Post by: chek2fire on November 10, 2015, 04:36:27 PM and with only /Bitcoin XT:0.11.0C/ 197 (3.68%)
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