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Title: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: murdito on November 08, 2015, 05:36:18 PM Can any person help me? Whay is ROI actually for this contract?
Too I read Bitmain say on contract: "BITMAIN may pay extra Bitcoin to the owner of PACMiC before the principal has been paid back in full, which will accelerate the payout even more." What is that? They send 1 btc more when i recuperate the first btc? Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: unamis76 on November 08, 2015, 06:16:51 PM You'd probably have more luck posting this on the Mining (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=14.0) subforum or on the Bitmain thread.
Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: Amph on November 08, 2015, 06:24:34 PM roi is no less than 10 months with those contract, i think they have calculated it in this way, so you remain with them enough
Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: philipma1957 on November 08, 2015, 07:01:17 PM Can any person help me? Whay is ROI actually for this contract? Too I read Bitmain say on contract: "BITMAIN may pay extra Bitcoin to the owner of PACMiC before the principal has been paid back in full, which will accelerate the payout even more." What is that? They send 1 btc more when i recuperate the first btc? this is like a bank cd. put up 1 coin and at the end you will collect about 1.02 maybe 1.03 btc in about 120 to 150 days. so 3% for four months is about 9% a year. the v3 was good the v4 is not as good. Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: QuintLeo on November 09, 2015, 11:54:18 AM I doubt that a V4 contract will achieve 9% ROI - my calcs come in at less than 7%, with some significant potential they won't pay off fully due to the halfing rendering their nominal S7 unprofitable before they pay off in full.
Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: notlist3d on November 09, 2015, 02:57:13 PM I doubt that a V4 contract will achieve 9% ROI - my calcs come in at less than 7%, with some significant potential they won't pay off fully due to the halfing rendering their nominal S7 unprofitable before they pay off in full. Still compare this to any banking account it is a lot more interest then I ever get in my standard savings account. But granted you don't get if in US FDIC insured and all that. It would be nice if they bump it back to V3 values. But seems like that is a unlikely thing to happen. Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: philipma1957 on November 12, 2015, 03:58:35 AM I doubt that a V4 contract will achieve 9% ROI - my calcs come in at less than 7%, with some significant potential they won't pay off fully due to the halfing rendering their nominal S7 unprofitable before they pay off in full. these where not the bargain the v3's were. I pushed hard to buy 9.99btc of the v3's I made about .3 btc on that 9.99btc but coins were 220 to 250 buying in and I sold the coins between 300 and 499 say 400 avg so 2500 usd became 4000 usd. the problem is this contract pays slowly the v3 paid off in under 90 days if you did not push the buy back hard. My buy back did a small th increase from 15 th to 16.5th I have 0 v4's Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: Amph on November 12, 2015, 07:29:54 AM by a look at the hash vs pacmic, it's better to go with the hash, it has a 6 roi and you can sell faster your hash at any time, just buy the whole hash of a single unit, so you can reclaim it one day if needed
i was going to invest myself because 6 months isn't that long, but no one responded about the total profit per day minus any fee, i opened a thread about it... Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: philipma1957 on November 12, 2015, 12:56:32 PM by a look at the hash vs pacmic, it's better to go with the hash, it has a 6 roi and you can sell faster your hash at any time, just buy the whole hash of a single unit, so you can reclaim it one day if needed i was going to invest myself because 6 months isn't that long, but no one responded about the total profit per day minus any fee, i opened a thread about it... I purchased an s-7 in hash on the site 4860gh it unlocks in 6 days. the 18th of nov coins where higher when I got it I paid 5.82 btc at current price of 0.00164 I could sell 3560 which would A: give me 5.838 coins vs the 5.82 paid B: leave me 1300 gh that are at a cost of -0.018 btc I would then just buy more gh from the earnings on the 1300gh Now when the s-7 unlocks maybe gh prices change again. Of course this is only a btc win not a usd win. that usd gain or loss would not be known until I cash out the 1300gh and cash out the 5.838 coins I got back. ie I could profit 2 coins and still lose usd if coins tank next year. Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: Amph on November 14, 2015, 07:27:58 AM by a look at the hash vs pacmic, it's better to go with the hash, it has a 6 roi and you can sell faster your hash at any time, just buy the whole hash of a single unit, so you can reclaim it one day if needed i was going to invest myself because 6 months isn't that long, but no one responded about the total profit per day minus any fee, i opened a thread about it... I purchased an s-7 in hash on the site 4860gh it unlocks in 6 days. the 18th of nov coins where higher when I got it I paid 5.82 btc at current price of 0.00164 I could sell 3560 which would A: give me 5.838 coins vs the 5.82 paid B: leave me 1300 gh that are at a cost of -0.018 btc I would then just buy more gh from the earnings on the 1300gh Now when the s-7 unlocks maybe gh prices change again. Of course this is only a btc win not a usd win. that usd gain or loss would not be known until I cash out the 1300gh and cash out the 5.838 coins I got back. ie I could profit 2 coins and still lose usd if coins tank next year. can you tell me the net profit of one single unit? because there is some confusion about the totl fee, electricity plus maintanance, i did not understand if they are considered one thing or two separated it should be 0.033 per day if i'm not mistaken, selling your hash it seems the best strategy but it must be done when the btc decrease so the value increase etc... but i like to do a regular mining, i don't like that even the mining aspect of bitcoin become trading... Title: Re: PACMIC V4 Antminer S7 question Post by: philipma1957 on November 14, 2015, 02:02:07 PM by a look at the hash vs pacmic, it's better to go with the hash, it has a 6 roi and you can sell faster your hash at any time, just buy the whole hash of a single unit, so you can reclaim it one day if needed i was going to invest myself because 6 months isn't that long, but no one responded about the total profit per day minus any fee, i opened a thread about it... I purchased an s-7 in hash on the site 4860gh it unlocks in 6 days. the 18th of nov coins where higher when I got it I paid 5.82 btc at current price of 0.00164 I could sell 3560 which would A: give me 5.838 coins vs the 5.82 paid B: leave me 1300 gh that are at a cost of -0.018 btc I would then just buy more gh from the earnings on the 1300gh Now when the s-7 unlocks maybe gh prices change again. Of course this is only a btc win not a usd win. that usd gain or loss would not be known until I cash out the 1300gh and cash out the 5.838 coins I got back. ie I could profit 2 coins and still lose usd if coins tank next year. can you tell me the net profit of one single unit? because there is some confusion about the totl fee, electricity plus maintanance, i did not understand if they are considered one thing or two separated it should be 0.033 per day if i'm not mistaken, selling your hash it seems the best strategy but it must be done when the btc decrease so the value increase etc... but i like to do a regular mining, i don't that even the mining aspect of bitcoin become trading... yeah but it does act as a hedge. so I do both. |