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Title: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Bisha on November 15, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
Hi,

Does anyone know if there's any Bitcoin related project that offers a decentralized bond market? Or if it's in the works? Something like Poloniex, where people can lend shorts and longs for an interest, but decentralized of course. Does it exist? Even if it's another platform or altcoin? I don't like to rely on exchanges as I'm not the one holding the private keys.


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Meuh6879 on November 15, 2015, 06:07:57 PM
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bond ... is DEBT, my friend.


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Bisha on November 15, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
Traders are able to place themselves "in debt", see exchanges with margin trading where people lend lol. If only you applied as much time giving a decent reply as you took searching for that gif trying to be funny.


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: franky1 on November 15, 2015, 06:30:40 PM
decentralised.. is a highly over used word..

as soon as there needs to be a server to link users together to communicate 'offers' and to hold users in debt to account, its not decentralised..

i do not beleive that there is a standalone executable that is truely 'p2p' that gives the communication ability to make 'offers'/loans/shorts


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Meuh6879 on November 15, 2015, 07:54:54 PM
Traders are able to place themselves "in debt", see exchanges with margin trading where people lend lol.

well, you must done this job in an other way now ... with bitcoin, you can't leverage or sell at uncover.
real trusted ... money.

you play, you loose ... you pay. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img633/9270/crMjhc.gif


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Bisha on November 15, 2015, 08:37:20 PM
decentralised.. is a highly over used word..

as soon as there needs to be a server to link users together to communicate 'offers' and to hold users in debt to account, its not decentralised..

i do not beleive that there is a standalone executable that is truely 'p2p' that gives the communication ability to make 'offers'/loans/shorts

Well isn't that why we have smartcontracts for?


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: RealBitcoin on November 15, 2015, 08:38:42 PM
Bond = Bondage.

Why would anybody want to buy himself slavery, I cannot understand :D

Centralized or no , the instrument itself is messy.


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: franky1 on November 15, 2015, 09:14:29 PM
decentralised.. is a highly over used word..

as soon as there needs to be a server to link users together to communicate 'offers' and to hold users in debt to account, its not decentralised..

i do not beleive that there is a standalone executable that is truely 'p2p' that gives the communication ability to make 'offers'/loans/shorts

Well isn't that why we have smartcontracts for?

theory of smart contracts, yes. but again ill say it
i do not beleive that there is a standalone executable that is truely 'p2p' that gives the communication ability to make 'offers'/loans/shorts


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Bisha on November 15, 2015, 09:37:18 PM
decentralised.. is a highly over used word..

as soon as there needs to be a server to link users together to communicate 'offers' and to hold users in debt to account, its not decentralised..

i do not beleive that there is a standalone executable that is truely 'p2p' that gives the communication ability to make 'offers'/loans/shorts

Well isn't that why we have smartcontracts for?

theory of smart contracts, yes. but again ill say it
i do not beleive that there is a standalone executable that is truely 'p2p' that gives the communication ability to make 'offers'/loans/shorts

Thanks for your input.

Bond = Bondage.

Why would anybody want to buy himself slavery, I cannot understand :D

Centralized or no , the instrument itself is messy.

What do you mean messy? It's working on Poloniex. People can lend to other people who margin trade.


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: franky1 on November 15, 2015, 09:43:49 PM

What do you mean messy? It's working on Poloniex. People can lend to other people who margin trade.

poloniex manages this.. they hold people to account for losses.

a decentralised model would cause people to just 'leg it' if they lose and not repay if they win.


Title: Re: Decentralized Bond Market
Post by: Bisha on November 15, 2015, 10:04:40 PM

What do you mean messy? It's working on Poloniex. People can lend to other people who margin trade.

poloniex manages this.. they hold people to account for losses.

a decentralised model would cause people to just 'leg it' if they lose and not repay if they win.

That's what collateral is for...