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Title: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 18, 2015, 03:39:00 PM
This guy seems to be scraping and translating news from coindesk, either that or he has botted the process: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=156259;sa=showPosts .
Seems to be posting only in press section of the board. Has had over 13 posts.
Just wanted to bring this to mods' attention(well local mods and Global mods anyway)

Regards,
Legendary


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: Lauda on November 18, 2015, 04:01:18 PM
The global and other moderators can't really do anything about this unless they know Chinese. Posting properly translated content in local sections is allowed as far as I know. You could contact one of the local moderators there and check with them. They should know if the account is using a bot to translate and post. In that case it would be disallowed due to being badly translated (and/or being spam).

~Lauda


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 18, 2015, 04:04:04 PM
The global and other moderators can't really do anything about this unless they know Chinese. Posting properly translated content in local sections is allowed as far as I know. You could contact one of the local moderators there and check with them. They should know if the account is using a bot to translate and post. In that case it would be disallowed due to being badly translated (and/or being spam).

~Lauda
That is true , but considering he has a signature and the fact that he is essentially spamming in the same section, i.e by creating a new thread everytime there is a new news on coindesk, I feel the guy should be banned. Thanks for your advice, contacting the(only) Chinese board moderator.

Could you contact him yourself, my newbie limits ... well that should explain it.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: XinXan on November 18, 2015, 04:32:13 PM
It also seems that only 3 people actually start threads there: btcshop, nextblast and So perfect, they are literally the only people who are posting things there and all of them have the bitmixer signature so..


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: shorena on November 18, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
It also seems that only 3 people actually start threads there: btcshop, nextblast and So perfect, they are literally the only people who are posting things there and all of them have the bitmixer signature so..

... they could still do good translations and thus constructive and helpful posts.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 21, 2015, 01:51:21 AM
Another chinese spammer, same guy it seems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345754


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: John (John K.) on November 21, 2015, 07:18:58 AM
This guy seems to be scraping and translating news from coindesk, either that or he has botted the process: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=156259;sa=showPosts .
Seems to be posting only in press section of the board. Has had over 13 posts.
Just wanted to bring this to mods' attention(well local mods and Global mods anyway)

Regards,
Legendary

Hmm.. I read a few of his posts and they seem coherent Chinese to me as a native-level speaker, not something translated via a bot. That account is actually reposting news from external sites (http://www.bitecoin.com/online/2015/11/16131.html as an example of the newest post). Not sure if that's a bannable offense with the newest policies though.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: enhu on November 21, 2015, 07:27:51 AM
I think he is just reposting for the locals. if he posted it else where and claimed the articles as his to his own site then that would be an issue.
I suppose he added his idea to his posts so this leaves an impression that he wanted people to discuss over.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 22, 2015, 08:43:21 AM

Hmm.. I read a few of his posts and they seem coherent Chinese to me as a native-level speaker, not something translated via a bot. That account is actually reposting news from external sites (http://www.bitecoin.com/online/2015/11/16131.html as an example of the newest post). Not sure if that's a bannable offense with the newest policies though.
Thanks for your opinion but I find it hard to believe that he can post two threads in under two minutes without using a bot, but I could be wrong ofc. Wouldn't this still be a case of sig spamming?Lastly, is it the same with :
Another chinese spammer, same guy it seems: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345754
this guy?


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 22, 2015, 08:56:45 AM
Forget what I said about the second guy, he's defo a botted account, just scrapes off the words from : http://forex.cngold.org/ which is a chinese news site. Hope he's banned soon for botting and sig spamming.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: Arcteryx on November 22, 2015, 09:00:03 AM
Is this the start of the invasion of the Chinese trolls another thread was talking about?  :o


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 22, 2015, 09:07:06 AM
Is this the start of the invasion of the Chinese trolls another thread was talking about?  :o
Trolls, probably not, signature spammers? For sure. About the point that John was talking about, that its in native chinese, some googling and it turns out that many sites are translating these stuff and posting in their website, thats probably where the spammer is scraping the posts from. For ex: http://www.bitecoin.com/online/2015/11/16182.html is a copy of what the spammer has been posting some other results are:  Results (https://www.google.sk/search?q=%E5%83%8FNetflix%EF%BC%8CYouTube%E5%92%8CiTunes%E8%BF%99%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%EF%BC%8C%E9%83%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83%E7%9A%84%E5%86%85%E5%AE%B9%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%A5%E6%A0%BC%E7%9A%84%E6%8E%A7%E5%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E4%BD%86%E6%96%B0%E5%87%BA%E7%8E%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%90%8D%E4%B8%BALBRY%E7%9A%84%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E5%BA%94%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%8C%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E4%BC%9A%E5%BD%BB%E5%BA%95%E6%94%B9%E5%8F%98%E8%BF%99%E7%A7%8D%E7%BD%91%E4%B8%8A%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%82&oq=%E5%83%8FNetflix%EF%BC%8CYouTube%E5%92%8CiTunes%E8%BF%99%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%EF%BC%8C%E9%83%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83%E7%9A%84%E5%86%85%E5%AE%B9%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%A5%E6%A0%BC%E7%9A%84%E6%8E%A7%E5%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E4%BD%86%E6%96%B0%E5%87%BA%E7%8E%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%90%8D%E4%B8%BALBRY%E7%9A%84%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E5%BA%94%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%8C%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E4%BC%9A%E5%BD%BB%E5%BA%95%E6%94%B9%E5%8F%98%E8%BF%99%E7%A7%8D%E7%BD%91%E4%B8%8A%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%82&aqs=chrome..69i57.867j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 22, 2015, 09:27:48 AM
Another chinese article scraper: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164832
His posts seem to come from: http://www.expreview.com/


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: mashcom on November 22, 2015, 10:50:09 AM
He must be banned.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: Arcteryx on November 22, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Why aren't they banned yet if it is known what they are doing?
Isn't there a Chinese moderator or one that can use a translator on the foreign posts to see what is happening?


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: mexxer-2 on November 23, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
As the OP seems to be lost somewhere, bump!


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 23, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
As the OP seems to be lost somewhere, bump!
Thanks for the bump, and yes I was somewhat busy currently.
And after coming back, wonder what I see, another scraper: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1260100.0;topicseen


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: Snorek on November 23, 2015, 02:24:37 PM
He must be banned.
It is not so simple, at the first glance he is not spamming with totally useless posts. And  as far as I can tell translated news can be helpful for Chinese community.
It is up to someone who is fluent in Chinese and English to decide if these posts are good and not spamming fest.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 23, 2015, 02:26:22 PM
He must be banned.
It is not so simple, he is not spamming with totally useless posts. And  as far as I can tell translated news can be helpful for Chinese community.
It is up to someone who is fluent in Chinese and English to decide if these posts are good and not spamming fest.
Another chinese article scraper: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164832
His posts seem to come from: http://www.expreview.com/
Is this the start of the invasion of the Chinese trolls another thread was talking about?  :o
Trolls, probably not, signature spammers? For sure. About the point that John was talking about, that its in native chinese, some googling and it turns out that many sites are translating these stuff and posting in their website, thats probably where the spammer is scraping the posts from. For ex: http://www.bitecoin.com/online/2015/11/16182.html is a copy of what the spammer has been posting some other results are:  Results (https://www.google.sk/search?q=%E5%83%8FNetflix%EF%BC%8CYouTube%E5%92%8CiTunes%E8%BF%99%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%EF%BC%8C%E9%83%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83%E7%9A%84%E5%86%85%E5%AE%B9%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%A5%E6%A0%BC%E7%9A%84%E6%8E%A7%E5%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E4%BD%86%E6%96%B0%E5%87%BA%E7%8E%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%90%8D%E4%B8%BALBRY%E7%9A%84%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E5%BA%94%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%8C%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E4%BC%9A%E5%BD%BB%E5%BA%95%E6%94%B9%E5%8F%98%E8%BF%99%E7%A7%8D%E7%BD%91%E4%B8%8A%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%82&oq=%E5%83%8FNetflix%EF%BC%8CYouTube%E5%92%8CiTunes%E8%BF%99%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%EF%BC%8C%E9%83%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83%E7%9A%84%E5%86%85%E5%AE%B9%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%A5%E6%A0%BC%E7%9A%84%E6%8E%A7%E5%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E4%BD%86%E6%96%B0%E5%87%BA%E7%8E%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%90%8D%E4%B8%BALBRY%E7%9A%84%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E5%BA%94%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%8C%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E4%BC%9A%E5%BD%BB%E5%BA%95%E6%94%B9%E5%8F%98%E8%BF%99%E7%A7%8D%E7%BD%91%E4%B8%8A%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%82&aqs=chrome..69i57.867j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)
One post every minute made from scraping news site, that too on off-topic news is something I would hardly classify as "helpful"


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: XinXan on November 23, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
He must be banned.
It is not so simple, he is not spamming with totally useless posts. And  as far as I can tell translated news can be helpful for Chinese community.
It is up to someone who is fluent in Chinese and English to decide if these posts are good and not spamming fest.
Another chinese article scraper: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164832
His posts seem to come from: http://www.expreview.com/
Is this the start of the invasion of the Chinese trolls another thread was talking about?  :o
Trolls, probably not, signature spammers? For sure. About the point that John was talking about, that its in native chinese, some googling and it turns out that many sites are translating these stuff and posting in their website, thats probably where the spammer is scraping the posts from. For ex: http://www.bitecoin.com/online/2015/11/16182.html is a copy of what the spammer has been posting some other results are:  Results (https://www.google.sk/search?q=%E5%83%8FNetflix%EF%BC%8CYouTube%E5%92%8CiTunes%E8%BF%99%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%EF%BC%8C%E9%83%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83%E7%9A%84%E5%86%85%E5%AE%B9%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%A5%E6%A0%BC%E7%9A%84%E6%8E%A7%E5%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E4%BD%86%E6%96%B0%E5%87%BA%E7%8E%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%90%8D%E4%B8%BALBRY%E7%9A%84%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E5%BA%94%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%8C%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E4%BC%9A%E5%BD%BB%E5%BA%95%E6%94%B9%E5%8F%98%E8%BF%99%E7%A7%8D%E7%BD%91%E4%B8%8A%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%82&oq=%E5%83%8FNetflix%EF%BC%8CYouTube%E5%92%8CiTunes%E8%BF%99%E6%A0%B7%E7%9A%84%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%EF%BC%8C%E9%83%BD%E5%AF%B9%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83%E7%9A%84%E5%86%85%E5%AE%B9%E6%9C%89%E4%B8%A5%E6%A0%BC%E7%9A%84%E6%8E%A7%E5%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E4%BD%86%E6%96%B0%E5%87%BA%E7%8E%B0%E7%9A%84%E5%90%8D%E4%B8%BALBRY%E7%9A%84%E5%8A%A0%E5%AF%86%E5%BA%94%E7%94%A8%EF%BC%8C%E5%8F%AF%E8%83%BD%E4%BC%9A%E5%BD%BB%E5%BA%95%E6%94%B9%E5%8F%98%E8%BF%99%E7%A7%8D%E7%BD%91%E4%B8%8A%E5%88%86%E4%BA%AB%E4%BF%A1%E6%81%AF%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%82&aqs=chrome..69i57.867j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)
One post every minute made from scraping news site, that too on off-topic news is something I would hardly classify as "helpful"

Plus no one from the chinese local forum seems to respond or discuss any of those news because they, most likey, dont care at all about them.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 24, 2015, 02:17:20 PM
Still no response from mods, well bump.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: farrukh on November 24, 2015, 03:53:30 PM
no response yet ?


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 24, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
no response yet ?
Nope


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: Wei H on November 24, 2015, 03:56:27 PM
He must be banned.
It is not so simple, at the first glance he is not spamming with totally useless posts. And  as far as I can tell translated news can be helpful for Chinese community.
It is up to someone who is fluent in Chinese and English to decide if these posts are good and not spamming fest.

He speaks fluent Chinese, he is simply copy news from Bitcoin news website and post in Media section, he does follow the rule of the media section, but maybe writing some posts would be better instead of simplified copy-paste.

Anyway, Chinese section is getting colder and colder.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: mexxer-2 on November 24, 2015, 03:58:53 PM

He speaks fluent Chinese
I wonder how you figured that out. Even I can scrape news from Chinese sites , does that mean I speak fluent chinese? All except one listed by OP are making threads only.


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: Wei H on November 24, 2015, 04:00:48 PM

His signature was gone, meaning that he was banned: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345754


Title: Re: Chinese spammer
Post by: TheLegendaryOne on November 24, 2015, 04:29:11 PM

His signature was gone, meaning that he was banned: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345754
Yup seems so, locking this thread until I find any similar spammer. BTW mods/admin a post if an account is banned, would be helpful, just sayin.