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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: iTeachYouLearn on November 19, 2015, 09:17:08 PM



Title: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 19, 2015, 09:17:08 PM
Hey,

Scammer: corado (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228562)
Amount Scammed: 310 Euros.
Proof i send the money: http://prntscr.com/94o324 (http://prntscr.com/94o324)
Proof he didn't sent the 1BTC as promised: https://blockchain.info/address/19Kupgx9fAb6nmnXAQqEJ92CLzqHsk81H1 (https://blockchain.info/address/19Kupgx9fAb6nmnXAQqEJ92CLzqHsk81H1)
Fake Image of the error he sent me (As shown in the 7th picture below): http://www.upload.ee/image/5342572/skrill01.JPG (http://www.upload.ee/image/5342572/skrill01.JPG)

Some pics of the conversation:

1 - http://prntscr.com/94o3ui (http://prntscr.com/94o3ui)
2 - http://prntscr.com/94o42b (http://prntscr.com/94o42b)
3 - http://prntscr.com/94o46y (http://prntscr.com/94o46y)
4 - http://prntscr.com/94o4b8 (http://prntscr.com/94o4b8)
5 - http://prntscr.com/94o4fi (http://prntscr.com/94o4fi)
6 - http://prntscr.com/94o4o9 (http://prntscr.com/94o4o9)
7 - http://prntscr.com/94o4tq (http://prntscr.com/94o4tq)
8 - http://prntscr.com/94o599 (http://prntscr.com/94o599)
9 - http://prntscr.com/94o5e0 (http://prntscr.com/94o5e0)
10 - http://prntscr.com/94o5j2 (http://prntscr.com/94o5j2)
11 - http://prntscr.com/94o5mi (http://prntscr.com/94o5mi)

A small explanation of what happened:

when i sent the payment, he said: "oh i'm getting home.. give me 1 hour and i'll send you the btc", and i waited 2 hours... after that he said: "your funds are from hacked/stolen accounts... " my account got limited and sent me this image: http://www.upload.ee/image/5342572/skrill01.JPG (http://www.upload.ee/image/5342572/skrill01.JPG) , then he said that will contact skrill and that he can't even refund... after he said that he will give me the password if i don't believe.. then i asked for the password and he said that he will give me the teamviewer ID and pw... when i asked the pw and id he went offline and till now no answer..

I hope he just went offline by accident. But i don't think so.
Got scammed :( I'm really sad. A lot of money in the table.

Beware.


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: coaltin on November 19, 2015, 09:23:54 PM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 19, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.

Well... he had positive feedback and i was like: "why not?"
Now i feel like crap.


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: corado on November 19, 2015, 09:32:22 PM
I just back online right now

I explained every thing friend skrill locked account and I not able to refund you

I ready give my skrill id password to any trusted forum member so they can see that I can not really able to refund issue

thanks


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 19, 2015, 09:34:09 PM
I just back online right now

I explained every thing friend skrill locked account and I not able to refund you

I ready give my skrill id password to any trusted forum member so they can see that I can not really able to refund issue

thanks

You said you would give me the teamviewer ID and PW.
Still waiting for that.
I want to see with my own eyes.

Also show me a proof of your address with the 1BTC


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: owlcatz on November 20, 2015, 12:01:16 AM
I just back online right now

I explained every thing friend skrill locked account and I not able to refund you

I ready give my skrill id password to any trusted forum member so they can see that I can not really able to refund issue

thanks

You said you would give me the teamviewer ID and PW.
Still waiting for that.
I want to see with my own eyes.

Also show me a proof of your address with the 1BTC

To be fair, I have had this happen to me once, although the error shown was not as vague.

I believe skrill has a blacklist of emails they flag, either based on country, or some other financial thing - For example, I once had a skrill account closed and my money refunded to my bank just for attempting to send 20 USD to someone in India from the USA. I don't see why that would be a problem, but apparently it was a big one, because they just closed my account for "TOS Violation" that they would not explain, and afaik, India was not on the list of blacklisted countries like North Korea etc... USA does business with India all the time?!

Corado, have you had problems with your skrill like this in the past, ever?

Edit .. This is not an unusual problem, apparently, and is resolvable -

https://twitter.com/ask_skrill/status/587167843566952449

IMO - Corado should get the funds into his bank eventually, even with skrill's help, and EVEN if they will not refund it to the other guy.

SO... Corado should (IMO) give him the btc when that eventually happens, at the already negotiated rate, if indeed this is not a doctored / fake error screenshot above about "GENERAL_ERROR"

This is sadly a good lesson in the risks involved for all about the large risks involved with using reversible and unreliable payment methods, unfortunately. :(


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 20, 2015, 07:59:18 AM
I just back online right now

I explained every thing friend skrill locked account and I not able to refund you

I ready give my skrill id password to any trusted forum member so they can see that I can not really able to refund issue

thanks

You said you would give me the teamviewer ID and PW.
Still waiting for that.
I want to see with my own eyes.

Also show me a proof of your address with the 1BTC

To be fair, I have had this happen to me once, although the error shown was not as vague.

I believe skrill has a blacklist of emails they flag, either based on country, or some other financial thing - For example, I once had a skrill account closed and my money refunded to my bank just for attempting to send 20 USD to someone in India from the USA. I don't see why that would be a problem, but apparently it was a big one, because they just closed my account for "TOS Violation" that they would not explain, and afaik, India was not on the list of blacklisted countries like North Korea etc... USA does business with India all the time?!

Corado, have you had problems with your skrill like this in the past, ever?

Edit .. This is not an unusual problem, apparently, and is resolvable -

https://twitter.com/ask_skrill/status/587167843566952449

IMO - Corado should get the funds into his bank eventually, even with skrill's help, and EVEN if they will not refund it to the other guy.

SO... Corado should (IMO) give him the btc when that eventually happens, at the already negotiated rate, if indeed this is not a doctored / fake error screenshot above about "GENERAL_ERROR"

This is sadly a good lesson in the risks involved for all about the large risks involved with using reversible and unreliable payment methods, unfortunately. :(

Well thanks for your help..
I already PM him to read your post..
Hope he send me the bitcoins :)
A lot of money in the table you know :/


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: twister on November 20, 2015, 09:28:26 AM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.

Well... he had positive feedback and i was like: "why not?"
Now i feel like crap.

He has one positive feedback and it was left on 2014-06-06 and that was long time ago, maybe the account was sold after then, did you think about that? Next time be wise and use a trusted escrow to avoid this kind of situation.

Let's hope that you get your money back but I don't use Skrill, so don't know if this error is legit or not. Here's something you can do in meanwhile, contact Skrill and show them the error and explain to them that the recipient is saying his account is frozen and maybe the support can check the other account and tell you if this is real or fake.


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: Ukoltonas on November 20, 2015, 10:19:38 AM
the error is legut but this not means his account is locked i get rhis error many time all you need to.do is wait a few minutes and retry and it will work 100%


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 20, 2015, 02:14:22 PM
I really want my money or bitcoins :(


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: enhu on November 21, 2015, 05:49:19 AM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.

Well... he had positive feedback and i was like: "why not?"
Now i feel like crap.

If there's just few positive trust and from users with few trust as well. Make sure to have an escrow. 310 Euros is a lot.
There's just too much scammers in these forum and to be safe give your trust to the most trusted ones.


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 22, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.

Well... he had positive feedback and i was like: "why not?"
Now i feel like crap.

If there's just few positive trust and from users with few trust as well. Make sure to have an escrow. 310 Euros is a lot.
There's just too much scammers in these forum and to be safe give your trust to the most trusted ones.

Yeah... he is offline for 2 days :(
I'm losing my hope :(


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: twister on November 23, 2015, 12:34:56 PM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.

Well... he had positive feedback and i was like: "why not?"
Now i feel like crap.

If there's just few positive trust and from users with few trust as well. Make sure to have an escrow. 310 Euros is a lot.
There's just too much scammers in these forum and to be safe give your trust to the most trusted ones.

Yeah... he is offline for 2 days :(
I'm losing my hope :(

Can't you do a chargeback? It actually is a shitty thing to do and it's why I don't buy/sell coins using any sort of ewallet money processors but it would be fair on this occasion since the other party is trying to scam you. I don't know if it is doable or not but I think I remember seeing a thread before where someone was in similar situation and was able to chargeback.


Title: Re: Scammed by corado
Post by: iTeachYouLearn on November 23, 2015, 10:16:29 PM
Please use escrow to avoid such scams in the future.

Well... he had positive feedback and i was like: "why not?"
Now i feel like crap.

If there's just few positive trust and from users with few trust as well. Make sure to have an escrow. 310 Euros is a lot.
There's just too much scammers in these forum and to be safe give your trust to the most trusted ones.

Yeah... he is offline for 2 days :(
I'm losing my hope :(

Can't you do a chargeback? It actually is a shitty thing to do and it's why I don't buy/sell coins using any sort of ewallet money processors but it would be fair on this occasion since the other party is trying to scam you. I don't know if it is doable or not but I think I remember seeing a thread before where someone was in similar situation and was able to chargeback.

"Thank you for contacting the Skrill Help Team.


Further to the query about the payment you have made, we would like to inform you that transactions in Skrill are final and irreversible. We cannot be held liable for any arrangement you might have made with the recipient of the funds or mistakes in sending money. 

Please also be advised that you will need to get in touch with the person who is trying to send you funds and solve the issue directly with him as we cannot provide you any further information regarding his account.

Note taht all of the above information is included into Skrill’s Terms and Conditions:
 
9. Sending Payments
[...]
9.4 Once funds are credited to the recipient’s Skrill Account, the transaction becomes irreversible.
 
In this sense, Skrill is a payment provider and as such, it has been our responsibility to issue an amount of e-money you have deposited via your preferred option and process the payment to the exact recipient that you have selected which has been done immediately upon your personal authorization.
 
Please be advised that if the funds were sent to a non-existing user, the amount will be automatically returned back to your balance 14 days after the initiation date."