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Title: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 02:08:46 AM
Hello All,

Some questions about my mining and electricity. I have a dryer plug and stove plug for mining lighting and computers fans ac etc i need to run into the 240/250.

To the best of my knowledge 1 of these is the plug for my tripplite pdu (the circular one). Now will this plug directly into a druger plug ? I already have the converter wire for tripplite pdu plug to dryer plug, but i was getting a lot of servers crashing. Could it be the wrong phase?

The second plug that looks like a triangle is from a stove plug. To the best of my knowledge this seems to be 250v 3phase but honestly i have no clue and could be wrong.

How do I convert that to be able to hook up miners with another ip controlled tripplite pdu? And the dryer plug if necc. Was the crashing related to wrong phase? Thanks!

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Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 02:54:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhiCFdWeQfA


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Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: philipma1957 on November 24, 2015, 04:24:28 AM
dude 240 volt can kill.

so first question is do you have a meter?

by a  meter this

http://www.amazon.com/DMiotech-Multimeter-Voltmeter-Temperature-Backlight/dp/B00Y245FSW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1448339025&sr=8-4&keywords=dmm+meter


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 05:38:01 AM
why exctly do you believe i need a meter? The plug tells us everything we need to know about what type of power it is powering the stove and dryer.... Everything else is plug and play adapters.

I just need someone to point me into the right direction for those adapters like they did before


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: MCHouston on November 24, 2015, 07:08:51 AM
Both plugs are 240v single phase. I need better pics to see the exacts but here is what I see below.

One is a 20a or 30a twist lock L5 or L6

Another one is a 20a or 50a NEMA 10-20 or 10-50

The real question is what size is the wire going to it and what size is the breaker.


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
one is the 30amp plug yes you are right while the other is a 50amp stove. Both of these are on a 200amp box

can we get a few more reputable accounts to verify this? I want to be sure they are single phase and it is okay to proceed without fear of damage etc.

Lastly I need a converter plug for that triangular stove outlet to some type of pdu. Obviously it would be best if the pdu was rated at 50amps so I can cover the entire stove outlet.

I already have a conversion plug for the dryerplug to tripplite pdu. But now i need a conversion for the stove plug.

God Bless USA


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: philipma1957 on November 24, 2015, 03:19:15 PM
one is the 30amp plug yes you are right while the other is a 50amp stove. Both of these are on a 200amp box

can we get a few more reputable accounts to verify this? I want to be sure they are single phase and it is okay to proceed without fear of damage etc.

Lastly I need a converter plug for that triangular stove outlet to some type of pdu. Obviously it would be best if the pdu was rated at 50amps so I can cover the entire stove outlet.

I already have a conversion plug for the dryerplug to tripplite pdu. But now i need a conversion for the stove plug.

God Bless USA

that is why you need that meter.  and why until you show me you have one I won't offer advice.  I don't want you to die or blow your gear up.

 I also know you need to wire the plug or the socket so that they match each other.  Without a meter you are working in the dark.  They meter will let you determine phase and correct wiring pattern.


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
will have meter in ~12hrs


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
while you are lurking, what should i set the meter too so we are not freaking out.


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: philipma1957 on November 24, 2015, 04:07:18 PM
while you are lurking, what should i set the meter too so we are not freaking out.
ac voltage

Then you can take measurements of the voltages in the three holes.

If you are single phase when you do hot to hot you should get 240

When you do hot to ground 120

I will demo on a 240 socket in my house


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: MCHouston on November 24, 2015, 06:02:45 PM
It is almost impossible to have 3 phase power in any 3 prong outlet. It will be 4 or 5.  Also it can show 208-240 and this is fine for single phase dual pole circuit breakers.

240 does not assure you it's not 3 phase. I have 200 S-5s running on 240 3 phase
 It's called high leg or wild leg see diagram below.  The best way to tell is to open your load center and see how many hot leads you got if you got 2 it's single phase. If 3 it's 3 phase.

http://www.engineeringradio.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/3-phase-delta.png (http://www.engineeringradio.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/3-phase-delta.png)


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 06:05:30 PM
philipma1957 may have actually killed himself trying to take those pics lol


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
ok i found my volt meter bros how do i do this with that 50 amp stove plug without killing myself


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: MCHouston on November 24, 2015, 06:08:54 PM
philipma1957 may have actually killed himself trying to take those pics lol

Maybe but I think he knows what he is doing.

Electrically roasted philipma1957 it's what's for Thanksgiving.  ;)


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: MCHouston on November 24, 2015, 06:16:10 PM
Check these voltages on your plug and see if your close.

But either way this will not determine if it's 3 phase, but even if it is it's safe to use with the other plug and mine.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cesco-content/unilog/Batch2_1/078477/36725-Tech-URL_1.jpg


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 24, 2015, 06:36:28 PM
perfect, thank you so much for the help.

So now the question is what type of plug and pdu so i can plug directly into that and use the 50 amps?

Someone linked me to a plug i bought before. it converted the dryer plug in my home to a tripplite pdu female plug.

Maybe there is something like this but when i goggle i cant find anything. Me and electricity have never mixed well. I tend to be slightly impatient and this is why i like these adapter plugs and stuff. And as we all know you cant get an electrician because it will tip them off

to be more specific i am looking  for an ip pdu so i can hard reset anywhere in the world without having to have a man on site.


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: MCHouston on November 24, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
To go 50A on a PDU your probably looking at an IEC plug.  Different ones can be used for this.  You may want to contact Finsky as I think he sells a 50A PDU that is very cheap.


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: philipma1957 on November 24, 2015, 11:34:05 PM
Check these voltages on your plug and see if your close.

But either way this will not determine if it's 3 phase, but even if it is it's safe to use with the other plug and mine.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cesco-content/unilog/Batch2_1/078477/36725-Tech-URL_1.jpg

yeah that diagram is the answer to op's question.. 

I wanted him to measure since I have had 3 prong plugs with 3 hot wires and a hidden illegal ground.



Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 25, 2015, 01:41:00 AM
ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 25, 2015, 01:41:26 AM
ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?

driving myself nuts with google


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: notlist3d on November 25, 2015, 03:34:17 AM
ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?

driving myself nuts with google


Be extremely careful if that is really 50 amp... that can kill.  When I did my mining area I shut power to my area off.  If your like my house outside your able to shut down the power.  Mine has 200 going to house, 100 going to mining area. 

I always turned it off checked mains.  I also used quality tools that were non conductive.  Even overboard on meter I'm using a fluke.  240 scares me and I treat it with the utmost respect.   

On PDU has anyone in here used a 50 amp PDU that seems like a ton going through it? 


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: philipma1957 on November 25, 2015, 04:01:47 AM
ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?

driving myself nuts with google


Be extremely careful if that is really 50 amp... that can kill.  When I did my mining area I shut power to my area off.  If your like my house outside your able to shut down the power.  Mine has 200 going to house, 100 going to mining area. 

I always turned it off checked mains.  I also used quality tools that were non conductive.  Even overboard on meter I'm using a fluke.  240 scares me and I treat it with the utmost respect.   

On PDU has anyone in here used a 50 amp PDU that seems like a ton going through it? 

it can do  8 or 9 s-7's.  I never used one that big.

I do have 2x  30 amp circuits  more then I need .  The wife is not going to let me run 11kwatts between the two.

I also would not be able to cool the house off.



Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: notlist3d on November 25, 2015, 04:08:16 AM
ok anyone have any idea where i can get a converter plug for that for a 50amp pdu or where i can get the 50amp intelligent pdu from?

driving myself nuts with google


Be extremely careful if that is really 50 amp... that can kill.  When I did my mining area I shut power to my area off.  If your like my house outside your able to shut down the power.  Mine has 200 going to house, 100 going to mining area. 

I always turned it off checked mains.  I also used quality tools that were non conductive.  Even overboard on meter I'm using a fluke.  240 scares me and I treat it with the utmost respect.   

On PDU has anyone in here used a 50 amp PDU that seems like a ton going through it? 

it can do  8 or 9 s-7's.  I never used one that big.

I do have 2x  30 amp circuits  more then I need .  The wife is not going to let me run 11kwatts between the two.

I also would not be able to cool the house off.



I haven't used 50 amp PDU either that seems like it would be commercial and very expensive.  I would almost think you would be better off starting with a 30 amp psu for decent price.  And if you really have to have 50 amp on one line, I would look into guage needed and get a Y adapter and do one 30 amp and one 20 amp.

I just think if there is a 50 amp you find it's going to cost a small fortune to buy.  Its a very high number on amps.


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 25, 2015, 05:13:27 AM
off to the races to the y-splitter gl to me in all in the "hunt" is that even possible

im seeing a lot of rv and marine stuff. Have to look into some sort of adapter for the 240v plug to an rv splitter then two more converts for the splitter back to pdus.



Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: philipma1957 on November 25, 2015, 05:30:35 AM
off to the races to the y-splitter gl to me in all in the "hunt" is that even possible

im seeing a lot of rv and marine stuff. Have to look into some sort of adapter for the 240v plug to an rv splitter then two more converts for the splitter back to pdus.



iron box has some good adapters.

they have a website  and a big ebay store


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: MCHouston on November 25, 2015, 06:50:56 PM
Talk to Finsky

I believe he sells cheap 50a PDUs


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: ChineseSavior on November 28, 2015, 06:18:06 AM
i have no idea who that is can you message for me  please ???


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: VirosaGITS on November 28, 2015, 06:38:25 AM
i have no idea who that is can you message for me  please ???

This is Finksy;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=347946

I've had personal dealings with him recently. Twice. He is legit.

This is the thread with the PDU's;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966135.0


Title: Re: 240v plugs and phases
Post by: Finksy on November 29, 2015, 05:40:28 AM
Thanks Virosa.

PM'd CS