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Title: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on November 20, 2012, 11:02:57 PM
DEVDA.Cooperative Helvetii[/b]

devda.ch is a Swiss Devcoin based legal anchored cooperative.
devda.ch isch e uf Devcoin Basis schaffendi, helvetischi Genosseschaft.

http://www.glari.ch:3000/projects/devda

http://devda.ch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetii

http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genossenschaft
http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetier


visit our campus in the hypergrid: devda.ch:8002:campus

http://www.glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/39/devdacampuss.png


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: smoothie on November 20, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
lol WHAT?  :D


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: Icoin on November 20, 2012, 11:13:16 PM
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lol WHAT?  Cheesy

Sorry i guess Devcoin Developer Association is more easy to understand.


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: smoothie on November 20, 2012, 11:16:28 PM
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lol WHAT?  Cheesy

Sorry i guess Devcoin Developer Association is more easy to understand.

English is easier to understand lol  :-*


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: Icoin on November 20, 2012, 11:21:00 PM
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English is easier to understand lol  Kiss

I hope this helps to understand :) http://www.swissworld.org/en/politics/general_information/ch_confoederatio_helvetica/
Its good to see the above text as the legal principle behind this Cooperative


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: smoothie on November 20, 2012, 11:25:34 PM
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English is easier to understand lol  Kiss

I hope this helps to understand :) http://www.swissworld.org/en/politics/general_information/ch_confoederatio_helvetica/
Its good to see the above text as the legal principle behind this Cooperation


maka dang dang shoyu billygoat tang gala boot boot. <------------ Goat-a-nese.

See I can speak another language too lol...


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: Icoin on November 21, 2012, 12:13:56 AM
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maka dang dang shoyu billygoat tang gala boot boot. <------------ Goat-a-nese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTTVTrz7cwQ


Title: Re: DEVDA Coperatio Helvetii
Post by: pyra-proxy on November 21, 2012, 12:29:44 AM
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maka dang dang shoyu billygoat tang gala boot boot. <------------ Goat-a-nese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTTVTrz7cwQ


lol +1


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii conversation with Luke-Jr
Post by: Icoin on November 21, 2012, 01:39:50 PM
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Luke-Jr: Icoin: testnet is for testing.
[14:11] Icoin: luke-jr: is that god that spoke to us ?
[14:11] Icoin: we dnt test on testnet
[14:12] Luke-Jr: Icoin: that's what testnet is for.
[14:12] Icoin: we test on all nets
[14:12] Luke-Jr: scams aren't nets.
[14:12] Icoin: nope you dnt get the point
[14:12] Icoin: what sca
[14:12] Icoin: its about chains
[14:12] Icoin: not about coins
[14:12] Icoin: you still dnt get the point
[14:13] Icoin: one god one blockchain is not how i see crytocoins working
[14:14] Icoin: i see the scam on the fiat side not in crypto
[14:14] Icoin: its nice when you wanna follow your allready posed roules for bitcoin
[14:15] Icoin: i speak up for all sha256 based chains that allready exist independent of bitcoin
[14:15] Icoin: the scam is to simply ignore that or even work against it
[14:16] Icoin: you self told me that you consider alt chains as dead, damn why dnt you then not donor your devcoins to the devcoin comunity instead of dumping it for bitcoins
[14:16] Icoin: is your god so far from tolerance ?
[14:17] Icoin: each chain has good and bad ghosts
[14:17] Luke-Jr: it doesn't work that way, no.
[14:18] Icoin: cause you look at it from a piramid like perspektive ?
[14:18] Icoin: what do you know abot switzerland luke ?
[14:18] Icoin: and what do you know about democracy ?
[14:19] Luke-Jr: I know democracy is fundamentally flawed and stupid.
[14:20] Icoin: thanks, since you surely dnt know what direct democracy is you stamp the word democracy in general ??
[14:21] Luke-Jr: direct democracy is the worst kind
[14:21] Icoin: sorry we have a national system with a constition based on direct democracy
[14:21] Icoin: since it is the national system here ...
[14:21] Icoin: you are against democracy and against law ?
[14:22] Luke-Jr: I support monarchy as the ideal form of government.
[14:22] Icoin: well thats the fundamental problem
[14:23] Icoin: i offer a cooperation instad of confrontation, man its 2012 lets have a nice xms
[14:24] Icoin: since you prefer the comonwealth you know there allways was many ways of wealth transfer
[14:24] Icoin: and wealth generating
[14:27] Icoin: the fundamental problem is that monarchy and democracy are integral elements of a working system
[14:28] Icoin: the individual monarchy of each natural person the mastership of beeing a human
[14:29] Icoin: or or how you would say worthy look god on his toes
[14:30] Icoin: in a monarchy who choses the leader ??


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: Liquid on November 21, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
Ok sorry WTF is this, i know everybody talks about him but who is Luke Jr ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luke-Jr


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: smoothie on November 21, 2012, 04:42:07 PM
Ok sorry WTF is this, i know everybody talks about him but who is Luke Jr ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luke-Jr

He is the guy who likes to eat shit.


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: Rubberduckie on November 21, 2012, 05:58:23 PM
Ok sorry WTF is this, i know everybody talks about him but who is Luke Jr ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luke-Jr


He's an ugly bible bashing nutcase who uses his pool (Eligius) to attack alt chains

http://www.kclug.org/wiki/images/thumb/Luke_Jr0.jpg/450px-Luke_Jr0.jpg


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: Liquid on November 21, 2012, 08:58:18 PM
I see so hes not liked, his he a good programmer ?

Or does he just destroy alt coins all day long  ::)


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on November 22, 2012, 12:08:55 AM
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I see so hes not liked, his he a good programmer ?

Or does he just destroy alt coins all day long  Roll Eyes

This thread is not about luke jr or any other priciple then direct democracy based cooperative according to the confederatio helvetica, a sovereign confederation with the protective setup of a armed neutrality.

DEVDACH funktions and is covered according to confederatio helevetica sovereign law. The working principle of the confederatio helvetica is direct democracy which is protected trough armed neutrality since 1848. I disagree with Luke-Jr and other likeminded Individuals about Bitcoin and the experiment of the integration into the commonwealth only, without respecting the soverenity of other projects. According to him the GOD chosen and probably from her majesty prefered chain is BITCOIN. This redefines the value of Bitcoin for us and lets us logicaly and automaticaly choose a chain, that goes along with our living principles.

This convo simply should show why devda.ch is not BITCOIN based. Devcoin fits to the soverign direct democratic principle of the confederatio helvetica. Soverign means "not cooperate slavery" under admiralitiy law like in the colonies from great britain and the commonwealth. The basic founding roule of the confederatio helvetica (Switzerland) is direct democracy and legal since 1848 without any change to this very day!


Well guys do we wanna see crypto in general build on centralistic enslaving principles of the commonwealth, or are we gonna be able to accept soveregnity of the cryptochains in general on a direct democratic basis?

DEVDA works according the direct democratic principle of the confederation helvetica. Not following direct democracy and the legal national soveregnity and its protecting princple - the armed neutrality -, is against swiss constitutional law - period.

Swiss Oath:

   «Ich schwöre/Ich gelobe,
I swear, i promise
   der Schweizerischen Eidgenossenschaft mit ganzer Kraft zu dienen;
to serve the swiss confederation with all my power;
   Recht und Freiheit des Schweizervolkes tapfer zu verteidigen;
to bravly defend the freedom and law of the swiss people;
    meine Pflichten auch unter Einsatz des Lebens zu erfüllen;
to furfill my duties even under dedication of my life
   der eigenen Truppe treu zu bleiben und in Kameradschaft zusammenzuhalten;
to be loyal to the own troups and  holding together in comradeship;
   die Regeln des Kriegsvölkerrechts einzuhalten.»
and to follow the laws of war."


It realy seems that that is urgently needed to show up under what legislation free man swear by free will! This is not about monarch coperate slavery! But about the EIDGENOSSENSCHAFT correctly translated into oathcooperative



Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: Luke-Jr on November 22, 2012, 12:20:52 AM
Needless to say, this troll doesn't speak for me (including his falsified IRC quotes).


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: Icoin on November 22, 2012, 12:39:57 AM
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Needless to say, this troll doesn't speak for me (including his falsified IRC quotes).
Stop spammig and to lie about a recorded and protocoled chat, its simply just rediculous. i tought that you probably know that luckyly in Switzerland and the Commonwealth all internettrafic is saved for further investigation!
You are not even man enough to stand to your words!
Your hostile mindsetup is not welcome in this tread!
You had a chance to troll your answer to my post cause of gentlemen fairness.
Every new post of you or your trolls here will be reported as hostile activity.
Hostile activity is atacking chains by 51% double spending attack aswell.
Any Activity of that Kind against in Switzerland legalized chains is a hostile activity and will be treated and prosecuted by legal authority as a activity against the sovereignity of the Confederatio Helvetica.

For your own sake i realy hope i made myself clear!


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: doublec on November 22, 2012, 02:29:56 AM
Hostile activity is atacking chains by 51% double spending attack aswell.
I'm not aware of Luke-Jr ever doing a double spend attack fwiw. I know that there's been discussion of what happened to coiled coin but it wasn't a double spend which would imply financial motive.


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: Icoin on November 22, 2012, 02:40:16 AM
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i offer a cooperation instad of confrontation, man its 2012 lets have a nice xms

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Posted by: doublec
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Quote from: Icoin on Today at 12:39:57 AM
Hostile activity is atacking chains by 51% double spending attack aswell.
I'm not aware of Luke-Jr ever doing a double spend attack fwiw. I know that there's been discussion of what happened to coiled coin but it wasn't a double spend which would imply financial motive.

I agree the 51% thing is past, but calling me a falsified IRC quotes making troll is actual.
However independent of all this, the helvetic legalization process is ongoing and and real.
You soon will be able to agree or disagree with the statutes on http://devda.ch


Title: Re: DEVDA Cooperative Helvetii
Post by: doublec on November 22, 2012, 02:46:53 AM
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i offer a cooperation instad of confrontation, man its 2012 lets have a nice xms
I wasn't offering opinion on any other discussion btw, just wanted to clarify that one statement since things sometimes get quoted and re-quoted.


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on November 25, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
Kristína - Ľudskosť
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsWKBQFUd1A

Ľudskosť                                                              Menschlichkeit


Nevyjedz z taniera, čo patrí iným                           Iss nicht ganz auf aus einem Teller der Anderen gehört
Mysli na chudákov uprostred zimy                          Denke an die Bedürftigen in mitten des Winters
Dožič aj inému kus jeho šťastia                              Gönne auch dem Anderen ein Stück seines Glücks
A ver, že dobré sny sa ti raz vrátia                         Und du kannst dir sicher sein, das die guten Träume einmal zu dir zurückkehren

Neklam, že nemáš dosť, máš, čo ti stačí                  Lüge nicht, du hättest nicht genug, du hast was dir ausreicht
To, čo máš navyše, musíš vždy strážiť                    Wache immer über das was dir übrig bleibt
Pohlaď svet dlaňami, na to ich máme                      Berühre die Welt mit den Händen, dafür haben wir sie
A prilož dobrý liek vždy k ľudskej rane                    Und lege zu einer menschlichen Wunde immer ein gutes Heil

Neober celý strom, neotráv studňu                         Nimm nicht den ganzen Baum ab, vergifte nicht den Brunnen
Aj keď si vysoko, skloň sa k nej ku dnu                   Auch wenn du hoch bist, beuge dich ihm immer bis zum Grund
Hlt vody tomu daj, kto o ňu prosí                           Einen Schluck Wasser gib dem, der um ihn bittet
A v srdci nos len to, čo pútnik bosý                         Und im Herzen habe nur das, was auch ein barfüssiger Pilger trägt

Čo spadlo z neba, do neba sa vráti                          Was einst vom Himmel fiel, wird in den Himmel zurückkehren
Kto iným nedal, akoby sám, akoby sám stratil          Wer anderen nicht gegeben, als ob er selbst verloren hätte

Pozri sa do očí deťom a chorým                               Sieh in die Augen von Kindern und Kranken
Tým, čo sa chytajú aj slamky v mori                        und denen die nach dem Strohhalm im Meer greifen
Skús plachtu rozprestrieť, keď niekto mrzne             Versuch das Tuch auszubreiten wenn jemand friert
A daj mu kus tepla, vždy ľahšie usneš                      und gib ihm ein Stück Wärme, es wird dir das einschlafen erleichtern

Otvor si náručie, môžeš im chrániť                          Öffne deine Arme, du kannst damit schützen
Tých, čo svet vyhnania a sú tu sami                        die, die die Welt austreibt und doch mit uns hier sind
Nie, nikdy nešliapme po ľudskej biede                     Nein, trampeln wir niemals auf der menschlichen Armut herum
Všetci sme pútnici a nikto z nás nevie                     Alle sind wir nur Pilger und niemand von uns weiss es wirklich

Čo prišlo z neba, do neba sa vráti                           Was einst vom Himmel fiel, wird in den Himmel zurückkehren
Kto iným nedal, akoby sám, akoby sám stratil          Wer Anderen nicht gegeben, wie wenn er selbst verloren hätte



Humanity

Dont eat all from the plate of an other
Think on the poor in the middle of the winter
Grant someone else a part of his Luck
And be assured, that the good dreams will once return to you

Dont lie that you dont have enough, you have whats sufficient for you
Things you have more then needed, allways protect
Touch the world with your hands, thats why we have them
And allways put a good medicine to a human wound

Never take all from a tree, dont poison the well
Even if you are high, bow down to the ground
Allways give a slug water, to someone who begs for it
And in your Heart just wear what a barefoot pilgrim has

What once was fallen from heaven, will return to heaven
Who never gave others, is himself the one who lost

Look in the eyes of children and the sick
allso them who reach for the straw in the sea
try to lay down the sheet, when someone is freezing
And give him a peace of heat, you will allways bether fall asleep

Open your arms, you can protect with it
them who are expelled from the world and here with us
No, never let us step on human suffering
We all are pilgrims, and noone realy knows

What once was fallen from heaven, will return to heaven
Who never gave to others, is himself the one who lost


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on November 25, 2012, 08:28:28 PM
Quote Hopegirl:

Thank you for contacting me! It sounds like your group is involved in some
wonderful stuff, and I can certainly see how the Fix the World Organization
can help. Please feel free to post a link to the Fix the World Organization
video on the thread. And if anyone has any particular questions please have
them contact me at hopegirl587@gmail.com. We are still building the
platform, which we hope to have up and running soon, at which point your
groups ideas and any projects would be a fantastic addition!

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com

Link for Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-os4pBkig


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on December 07, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
https://www.devda.ch is online.

Full devcoin integrated webside :)

  • DVC online Wallet
  • DVC users worldmap
  • DVC binary and source download
  • Shop
  • Ad's
  • Videos
  • Referrals Program
  • Payed Downloads
  • Hypergrid
  • in preparation: pay per adview
  • and more to come....

EDIT:
Affilate System online
Wordcount and Devpoints integrated.
Devpoints are system internal with the purpose to keep the load off the devcoin chain.
Devpoints are for various activity like writing a howto or answering userquestions, providing support, translating or creating content etc in the devda.ch system granted. They are exchangable for devcoins (not released yet!) or can be used in the shop.


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Kumala on December 10, 2012, 02:31:33 AM
Good to see some more DVC based pages/business coming up. I tried out the wallet and it's up and running, waiting for the other components to come online.


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on December 12, 2012, 11:45:11 PM
Good to see some more DVC based pages/business coming up. I tried out the wallet and it's up and running, waiting for the other components to come online.


Thanks for the testing! Would it very hard to program a Drupal Module that interacts with the Vircurex API at least for the exchange rate DVC/BTC?

RELEASE:
uc_devcoin (Drupal 6.x DVC Ubercart module)
http://www.glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/35/uc_devcoin-0.0.1.zip

Version 0.0.1 is working stable but there are a lot of improovments possible.
A integration with the vircurex api, is the most plausible next step.


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on December 14, 2012, 07:48:39 PM
Some Info why devda.ch is a cooperative and not a corporation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PSxtJNp9Pc


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on December 21, 2012, 01:04:02 PM
devda.ch GRID online
devda.ch is proud to announce a running Opensimulator in Hypergrid mode: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Hypergrid
Mainpage integration in work.
  • Free Upload
  • Regions (100k Prims) are rentable for devcoins.
  • Free Regions saving service (whole Region sendable as file)


Please contat the devda.ch admin trough pm on devda.ch for further details.
https://www.devda.ch drupal integration in progress

http://opensimulator.org
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com

http://www.glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/38/Mutterland.png
http://www.glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/39/devdacampuss.png
http://www.glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/41/devda.chcampus1.png
http://www.glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/42/devda.chcampus2.png
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkNA69AiL4A


Title: Re: devda.ch
Post by: Icoin on December 30, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
Drupal 7 Devcoin Wallet module used by devda.ch published by ssm2017

https://drupal.org/project/coins_wallet