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Title: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Xian01 on December 01, 2015, 04:41:14 PM
I'll leave it up to the administration to hash out the prerequisites, but with the upcoming halving in ~June 2016, figured it would warrant discussion to have something more senior than Legendary.

EDIT: Additionally, propose the final "Coin" in the profile be adjusted from half purple, to a full, bright-orange coin.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Lauda on December 01, 2015, 04:50:02 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Xian01 on December 01, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?

Probably not a bad number to aim for. I'll leave the decisions up to management. Wanted to get a ball rolling on discussions for the idea.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: EcuaMobi on December 01, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?

For Jr. Member it's 30, for Member 60, for Full Member 120, for Sr. Member it's 240, for Hero 480 and for Legendary (although random) it's around 960.
Then the logic answer would be 1920, either exactly that or somewhat random around that. So about 5 years and 3 months of full activity would be required.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: notlist3d on December 01, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?

For Jr. Member it's 30, for Member 60, for Full Member 120, for Sr. Member it's 240, for Hero 480 and for Legendary (although random) it's around 960.
Then the logic answer would be 1920, either exactly that or somewhat random around that. So about 5 years and 3 months of full activity would be required.


If you do it I would hope they keep the randomness of legendary.  So have a range you get it within but it is a big range.  

Like how I'm still hero but could hit legendary any activity change.  Makes it kinda fun.   So please keep the random feature if you do add another rank above legendary


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Amph on December 01, 2015, 06:33:27 PM
there was already a discussion about this, for the new forum, among the other proposal, i wuld also like to see a new rank, but the name you choose is a bit underwhelming

legendary sound more badass, maybe "Eternal" or something like this?


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: qwk on December 01, 2015, 06:39:14 PM
Should only be available to users who were active on this forum for at least two reward halvings.
Not for the 2013 bunch ;)


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: jackg on December 01, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?

Probably not a bad number to aim for. I'll leave the decisions up to management. Wanted to get a ball rolling on discussions for the idea.

Go for an activity of 10,000. Probably not call it ancient, but: Veteron.
This may work better, make it harder for people to get!
10,000/14 = 715: 14 day periods
                = 1430 Weeks.
                = 10010 Days.
                = ~ 30 years.

Harder to get!


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Athertle on December 01, 2015, 08:54:37 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?

Probably not a bad number to aim for. I'll leave the decisions up to management. Wanted to get a ball rolling on discussions for the idea.

Go for an activity of 10,000. Probably not call it ancient, but: Veteron.
This may work better, make it harder for people to get!
10,000/14 = 715: 14 day periods
                = 1430 Weeks.
                = 10010 Days.
                = ~ 30 years.

Harder to get!

I doubt anyone here would be willing to spend 30 years of their lives actively posting on the forums. ::)


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: theymos on December 01, 2015, 09:07:46 PM
Legendary already takes several years to obtain. I feel like this is enough. Maybe if I someday start to see that there's some decently-sized subset of Legendary members who are "noticeably more veteran", then another rank would be appropriate.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Mickeyb on December 01, 2015, 09:52:31 PM
Just like theymos has written above, I too do think that legendary is already hard enough to obtain. And to be quite honest, I don't see them this much!

This doesn't mean that in few years, addition of one extra rank won't be necessary. Then we will have many more legendary members!


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: redsn0w on December 01, 2015, 09:58:56 PM
Legendary already takes several years to obtain. I feel like this is enough. Maybe if I someday start to see that there's some decently-sized subset of Legendary members who are "noticeably more veteran", then another rank would be appropriate.

Quote his opinion , I don't think is necessary at the moment.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: jackg on December 01, 2015, 09:59:57 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?

Probably not a bad number to aim for. I'll leave the decisions up to management. Wanted to get a ball rolling on discussions for the idea.

Go for an activity of 10,000. Probably not call it ancient, but: Veteron.
This may work better, make it harder for people to get!
10,000/14 = 715: 14 day periods
                = 1430 Weeks.
                = 10010 Days.
                = ~ 30 years.

Harder to get!

I doubt anyone here would be willing to spend 30 years of their lives actively posting on the forums. ::)

That would make the rank so great! Only the most passionate bitcoiners will get it! Iron out the scammers, no scammer will take 30 years to make an account!


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: minifrij on December 01, 2015, 10:11:38 PM
Should only be available to users who were active on this forum for at least two reward halvings.
Not for the 2013 bunch ;)
:'(

I don't like the idea at all.
Good constructive feedback. Thanks for telling us why.

That would make the rank so great! Only the most passionate bitcoiners will get it! Iron out the scammers, no scammer will take 30 years to make an account!
If this forum is alive in 5-10 years I will be amazed, let alone 30.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: jackg on December 01, 2015, 10:24:16 PM
If this forum is alive in 5-10 years I will be amazed, let alone 30.

It would help the forum to keep going! Would it not?
People would donate if they have worked for 10 or 20 years on making their account with 5000-7000 activity.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: minifrij on December 01, 2015, 10:28:29 PM
It would help the forum to keep going! Would it not?
I don't really think it would. While it would be nice for this forum to live for a long time, I doubt anyone will care about an online number of points and title to stay here for several decades.

People would donate if they have worked for 10 or 20 years on making their account with 5000-7000 activity.
Would they? I don't think it would really make someone donate over $3k (right now) because they have been here for a long time.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Fwdxlsh on December 01, 2015, 10:55:45 PM
It would help the forum to keep going! Would it not?
I don't really think it would. While it would be nice for this forum to live for a long time, I doubt anyone will care about an online number of points and title to stay here for several decades.

People would donate if they have worked for 10 or 20 years on making their account with 5000-7000 activity.
Would they? I don't think it would really make someone donate over $3k (right now) because they have been here for a long time.
Not to mention the fact that people have better activities to do.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: dogie on December 01, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
Legendary already takes several years to obtain. I feel like this is enough. Maybe if I someday start to see that there's some decently-sized subset of Legendary members who are "noticeably more veteran", then another rank would be appropriate.

I'd rather see a rework of the high level ranks. The required levels of posting are almost non existent so at the moment its simply a "who has the oldest account" game. For example, Legendary requires ~1000 posts over 1000 days....


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: medUSA on December 01, 2015, 11:45:27 PM
What would be the minimum activity, 2000?
Probably not a bad number to aim for. I'll leave the decisions up to management. Wanted to get a ball rolling on discussions for the idea.

I saw the introduction of Legendary rank when there were too many hero ranks. Now that there are not many legendaries anyway, there is no need to introduce another rank above. Although 2000 activity is a logical number, that's 5.5 years of fully active postings. I wonder how many members can achieve that.



Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Athertle on December 01, 2015, 11:46:55 PM
Legendary already takes several years to obtain. I feel like this is enough. Maybe if I someday start to see that there's some decently-sized subset of Legendary members who are "noticeably more veteran", then another rank would be appropriate.

I'd rather see a rework of the high level ranks. The required levels of posting are almost non existent so at the moment its simply a "who has the oldest account" game. For example, Legendary requires ~1000 posts over 1000 days....

...and since it's exactly what it is, a "who has the oldest account game", it's not even a game since you can't beat someone else if you're both trying.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: enhu on December 02, 2015, 02:45:10 AM
The forum keeps the ecosystem of Bitcoin and the altcoins so this board should last if we're to keep it that way. As long as the system don't change, 30 years is nothing. Time flies and you shall see it when you're 50+.




Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: disclaimer201 on December 02, 2015, 08:32:58 AM
I'd love to see a new rank just for the heck of it. Bring the action, we will have many more legendary members soon. This or add another rank before legendary and make legendary a little harder to achieve. Even better, make all ranks harder to achieve. 30 or 60 posts are nothing nowadays. Forget the 30 years idea UNTIL we have a club of members who posted here for 30 years.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Fwdxlsh on December 02, 2015, 10:37:24 AM


Good constructive feedback. Thanks for telling us why.


No need to be sarcastic.


I don't like it, because it is unnecessary. It certainly doesn't help with promoting Bitcoin. We should be focusing on ways to make the site more comfortable for users so they have a free outlet to work on Bitcoin related ideas, and not feel uncomfortable here. The site is for work. It can be for play too because of the Off-topic forum, but I don't see a point in making unneccessary arrangements or features when more needed arrangements and features are still very much not placed into affect on the site. Work first, then play.

Keep in mind that it is my personal opinion, so it deserves to be respected just like yours does.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Xian01 on December 02, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
Good constructive feedback. Thanks for telling us why.
No need to be sarcastic.
I don't like it, because it is unnecessary. It certainly doesn't help with promoting Bitcoin. We should be focusing on ways to make the site more comfortable for users so they have a free outlet to work on Bitcoin related ideas, and not feel uncomfortable here. The site is for work. It can be for play too because of the Off-topic forum, but I don't see a point in making unneccessary arrangements or features when more needed arrangements and features are still very much not placed into affect on the site. Work first, then play.
Keep in mind that it is my personal opinion, so it deserves to be respected just like yours does.

These forums do not exist to make you comfortable or to promote Bitcoin.

These forums are brutally harsh and unforgiving. If your feelings are hurt, or you are triggered, or whatever coddled nonsense you are reacting to, I might suggest you find other forums to patronize.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: qwk on December 02, 2015, 02:01:06 PM
Should only be available to users who were active on this forum for at least two reward halvings.
Not for the 2013 bunch ;)
:'(
You'll get your chance sometime in 2020 or so ;D


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Monnt on December 02, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
I guess a range between 1850 and 2150 would be ideal, a painfully long random waiting period will make the activity note interesting.

there was already a discussion about this, for the new forum, among the other proposal, i wuld also like to see a new rank, but the name you choose is a bit underwhelming

legendary sound more badass, maybe "Eternal" or something like this?

How about "Old-Timer" xD


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: jackg on December 02, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
It would help the forum to keep going! Would it not?
I don't really think it would. While it would be nice for this forum to live for a long time, I doubt anyone will care about an online number of points and title to stay here for several decades.

People would donate if they have worked for 10 or 20 years on making their account with 5000-7000 activity.
Would they? I don't think it would really make someone donate over $3k (right now) because they have been here for a long time.
Not to mention the fact that people have better activities to do.

But if they could sell their account for ~5 or 10 BTC. Then, they might donate. Won't they?


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: hilariousandco on December 03, 2015, 12:52:46 AM
New ranks should or probably will have to be added eventually especially when the highest rank becomes common. The ranks up to Hero just double the activity of the previous one so Legendary should become 960 activity and add another rank at double that and when the time comes double that one etc. Not really a fan of the randomness or Legendary but maybe the new rank could be random instead, though would prefer fixed ones.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: DebitMe on December 03, 2015, 01:05:51 AM
Why not incorporate trust ratings into the trust ranking system?  If you get a certain number of positive trust posts or points, then you can get opened up to different forum ranks. Perhaps put this in conjecture with time on forum or post count and you can start having different ranks based on contribution to the community.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Sir_lagsalot on December 05, 2015, 10:51:53 AM
I think this is a good idea, as it sheds light on the old members of the community. There are new legendaries almost every two weeks, so it's getting easier and easier to find one.

I think the activity should be 1920, so it ties in with the doubling activity pattern.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: dogie on December 05, 2015, 03:03:22 PM
Why don't we just stop pretending its called activity and call it "how old your account is"? Post count or actual activity has nothing to do with the rating any more and most people have 2-10x their "activity" score in posts.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: WaterSupply on December 05, 2015, 04:01:27 PM
Yes i agree with theymos.

Legendary already takes a very long time to get. I really do not think that ancient or veteran is really needed. The system is already pretty good and adding even more complexity can get confusing. I would say leave it as it is.

Legendary already takes several years to obtain. I feel like this is enough. Maybe if I someday start to see that there's some decently-sized subset of Legendary members who are "noticeably more veteran", then another rank would be appropriate.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Lauda on December 05, 2015, 06:54:39 PM
Why don't we just stop pretending its called activity and call it "how old your account is"? Post count or actual activity has nothing to do with the rating any more and most people have 2-10x their "activity" score in posts.
Indeed. Technically the name "activity" is false because it does not accurately represent the activity of a user. It would be more accurate if it was called e.g. "age" or something similar.


Update:
"Age" was just a random thought, not my suggestion and should not be put much time into thinking about it.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: minifrij on December 06, 2015, 02:21:05 AM
Indeed. Technically the name "activity" is false because it does not accurately represent the activity of a user. It would be more accurate if it was called e.g. "age" or something similar.
Though if it was called age, I don't know about anyone else, but I think it would just confuse people more. They could think that instead of an arbitrary value, it instead corresponded to days/weeks/months. That and it isn't completely about the age of the account, since the Activity value is based on the amount of periods active. Personally, I think changing it to Age or something similar would just confuse more than help, though that may just be due to me being used to the current activity system.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: dogie on December 06, 2015, 04:11:23 AM
That and it isn't completely about the age of the account, since the Activity value is based on the amount of periods active

That's not really true due to potential activity, if the account has been active at all then activity = 14x days of account age which is lame as hell.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: lemipawa on December 06, 2015, 04:19:34 AM
I think Legendary should be the highest one, but add a new one like "Veteran" to be in between a "Hero" and "Legendary".


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: theymos on December 06, 2015, 06:48:09 AM
"Activity" is a good name because it shows how many days you've been active on the forum. If you created an account in 2010, used it for a week, and then returned in 2015, your activity (including potential activity) would be pretty small.

I agree that it'd be better to look at the quality of your posts and things like that, but this can't be calculated automatically.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: The Pharmacist on December 06, 2015, 06:58:32 AM
I like this idea but something about the word "ancient" I don't like.  Can't it be something creative, like a latin or greek phrase or something else?   And right now I'm too lazy to research something.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: GTO911 on December 06, 2015, 07:37:20 AM
Legendary was used prematurely, It should have been Veteran, then Legendary


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: hilariousandco on December 06, 2015, 08:11:28 AM
Why don't we just stop pretending its called activity and call it "how old your account is"? Post count or actual activity has nothing to do with the rating any more and most people have 2-10x their "activity" score in posts.
Indeed. Technically the name "activity" is false because it does not accurately represent the activity of a user. It would be more accurate if it was called e.g. "age" or something similar.

You could make the same argument about age. Activity isn't literally how active you are but how active you have been over time ie how active you have been in posting in the two week periods.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: theymos on December 06, 2015, 08:33:37 AM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: notlist3d on December 06, 2015, 09:34:46 AM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

I like the sound of it.  Ancient after thinking does kinda make the account sound old not special. Mythical has kinda a more magical sounding.

I can only wonder what activity for it would be.   You would have to have it very high to make it so special.  I like the random factor to, so random just so high very few would ever get it.  I think it would be fun if only a handful ever got it the activity level was so high.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: redsn0w on December 06, 2015, 09:49:06 AM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".


I like it !




PS: check your signature ;).


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: hilariousandco on December 06, 2015, 10:41:50 AM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

I like the sound of it.  Ancient after thinking does kinda make the account sound old not special. Mythical has kinda a more magical sounding.

I can only wonder what activity for it would be.   You would have to have it very high to make it so special.  I like the random factor to, so random just so high very few would ever get it.  I think it would be fun if only a handful ever got it the activity level was so high.

They should just double with every rank in my opinion. Makes it easier and doubling each time makes the ranks much difficult to achieve whilst keeping some standard/order. Legendary should become 960 and then Mythical 1920.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: XinXan on December 06, 2015, 11:59:58 AM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

I like the sound of it.  Ancient after thinking does kinda make the account sound old not special. Mythical has kinda a more magical sounding.

I can only wonder what activity for it would be.   You would have to have it very high to make it so special.  I like the random factor to, so random just so high very few would ever get it.  I think it would be fun if only a handful ever got it the activity level was so high.

They should just double with every rank in my opinion. Makes it easier and doubling each time makes the ranks much difficult to achieve whilst keeping some standard/order. Legendary should become 960 and then Mythical 1920.

When you have 1337 posts your post number becomes leet, right? We should make it that when you reach 420 the post number transforms into weed master.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: dogie on December 06, 2015, 04:11:36 PM
"Activity" is a good name because it shows how many days you've been active on the forum. If you created an account in 2010, used it for a week, and then returned in 2015, your activity (including potential activity) would be pretty small.

I agree that it'd be better to look at the quality of your posts and things like that, but this can't be calculated automatically.

Why do I have 250 more activity than hilariousandco, someone who has posted [been active] twice as much as I have? Because my account is a bit older? People could have less than 10% of his posts and still have a higher activity, it doesn't make sense.

My point is is that there should be a much higher standard than 1 post a day, even if it only becomes active at higher ranks, which would give a greater quantification to "activity" on the forum.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: redsn0w on December 06, 2015, 04:27:52 PM
"Activity" is a good name because it shows how many days you've been active on the forum. If you created an account in 2010, used it for a week, and then returned in 2015, your activity (including potential activity) would be pretty small.

I agree that it'd be better to look at the quality of your posts and things like that, but this can't be calculated automatically.

Why do I have 250 more activity than hilariousandco, someone who has posted [been active] twice as much as I have? Because my account is a bit older? People could have less than 10% of his posts and still have a higher activity, it doesn't make sense.

My point is is that there should be a much higher standard than 1 post a day, even if it only becomes active at higher ranks, which would give a greater quantification to "activity" on the forum.

Yes, definitely activity is not the correct name (or it should change the calculation of it).


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: hilariousandco on December 06, 2015, 05:28:16 PM
"Activity" is a good name because it shows how many days you've been active on the forum. If you created an account in 2010, used it for a week, and then returned in 2015, your activity (including potential activity) would be pretty small.

I agree that it'd be better to look at the quality of your posts and things like that, but this can't be calculated automatically.

Why do I have 250 more activity than hilariousandco, someone who has posted [been active] twice as much as I have? Because my account is a bit older? People could have less than 10% of his posts and still have a higher activity, it doesn't make sense.

My point is is that there should be a much higher standard than 1 post a day, even if it only becomes active at higher ranks, which would give a greater quantification to "activity" on the forum.

Because you've been here much longer than I have. Activity is a good indicator because you can't just spam your way to it as activity takes into consideration age by how many two week periods you've posted in. It's also not necessarily one activity point per day but 14 per fortnight. You can get the same activity by making one post in each period then making up the rest of the posts at a later date.

Yes, definitely activity is not the correct name (or it should change the calculation of it).

Maybe not but it's too late to change it now but what else would you call it?


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: anonymousx on December 06, 2015, 05:30:44 PM
Ancient sounds like abandoned or old account to me.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Xian01 on December 06, 2015, 05:43:19 PM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

No arguments here. Better choice.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Snorek on December 06, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
I think about we can maybe introduce some rare status for people who registered on bitcointalk in the first year of the forum?

It should say: 'Early Adopter', or something distinctive enough to spot these lucky individuals. Thoughts?


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: anonymousx on December 06, 2015, 06:30:12 PM
I think about we can maybe introduce some rare status for people who registered on bitcointalk in the first year of the forum?

It should say: 'Early Adopter', or something distinctive enough to spot these lucky individuals. Thoughts?

Nope, I don't think so, early adopter, even legendary is still better than that, should check account age not activity, which is not implemented in this forums.

Plus if its about earliness I have an account that I never used in this forum since ages ago and that wont be fair.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: dogie on December 06, 2015, 06:41:14 PM
I think about we can maybe introduce some rare status for people who registered on bitcointalk in the first year of the forum?

It should say: 'Early Adopter', or something distinctive enough to spot these lucky individuals. Thoughts?

Just increases value to account sellers and doesn't actually represent people who are contributing to the forums,


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: hilariousandco on December 06, 2015, 06:44:07 PM
I think about we can maybe introduce some rare status for people who registered on bitcointalk in the first year of the forum?

It should say: 'Early Adopter', or something distinctive enough to spot these lucky individuals. Thoughts?

Just increases value to account sellers and doesn't actually represent people who are contributing to the forums,

Probably wouldn't increase value that much especially if it doesn't have any benefits with it other than just the name. I don't thinl registering early should mean much without the activity which will suffice.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: mtnsaa on December 06, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Ancient sounds like abandoned or old account to me.

Yeah, plus this discussion reminds me of Spinal Tap's "Up to eleven" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: redsn0w on December 06, 2015, 07:12:02 PM
"Activity" is a good name because it shows how many days you've been active on the forum. If you created an account in 2010, used it for a week, and then returned in 2015, your activity (including potential activity) would be pretty small.

I agree that it'd be better to look at the quality of your posts and things like that, but this can't be calculated automatically.

Why do I have 250 more activity than hilariousandco, someone who has posted [been active] twice as much as I have? Because my account is a bit older? People could have less than 10% of his posts and still have a higher activity, it doesn't make sense.

My point is is that there should be a much higher standard than 1 post a day, even if it only becomes active at higher ranks, which would give a greater quantification to "activity" on the forum.

Because you've been here much longer than I have. Activity is a good indicator because you can't just spam your way to it as activity takes into consideration age by how many two week periods you've posted in. It's also not necessarily one activity point per day but 14 per fortnight. You can get the same activity by making one post in each period then making up the rest of the posts at a later date.

Yes, definitely activity is not the correct name (or it should change the calculation of it).

Maybe not but it's too late to change it now but what else would you call it?


Would you to receive an honest answer ....  ;D  ?


I don't have in my mind any valid substitute to 'activity'.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: notlist3d on December 06, 2015, 10:35:39 PM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

I like the sound of it.  Ancient after thinking does kinda make the account sound old not special. Mythical has kinda a more magical sounding.

I can only wonder what activity for it would be.   You would have to have it very high to make it so special.  I like the random factor to, so random just so high very few would ever get it.  I think it would be fun if only a handful ever got it the activity level was so high.

They should just double with every rank in my opinion. Makes it easier and doubling each time makes the ranks much difficult to achieve whilst keeping some standard/order. Legendary should become 960 and then Mythical 1920.

I like your thinking on this.  That range is pretty good.  I still would like it to be random as it adds additional factor that makes it even more special. 

But if you did random with 1920 - 2XXX (2000 and something) I would like it.   I just want this one to be one where when someone sees it they are impressed with the person getting it.   

Also giving them a nice deign on the coin's beside name.  I don't know how to make it super special.  But it would have to be something worthy of the rank.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: n691309 on December 06, 2015, 10:43:25 PM
Is there any statistic about how many Hero, Legendary are in total, or sorting them by every rank so we can see how many Mythical could there be at activity 1920+.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: hilariousandco on December 06, 2015, 10:50:37 PM
Probably the next one would be "Mythical".

I like the sound of it.  Ancient after thinking does kinda make the account sound old not special. Mythical has kinda a more magical sounding.

I can only wonder what activity for it would be.   You would have to have it very high to make it so special.  I like the random factor to, so random just so high very few would ever get it.  I think it would be fun if only a handful ever got it the activity level was so high.

They should just double with every rank in my opinion. Makes it easier and doubling each time makes the ranks much difficult to achieve whilst keeping some standard/order. Legendary should become 960 and then Mythical 1920.

I like your thinking on this.  That range is pretty good.  I still would like it to be random as it adds additional factor that makes it even more special. 

But if you did random with 1920 - 2XXX (2000 and something) I would like it.   I just want this one to be one where when someone sees it they are impressed with the person getting it.   

Having the highest rank as random (after 1920) would be ok but personally I'd prefer it to be fixed (but that's just me  ;D).


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: EcuaMobi on December 06, 2015, 10:50:54 PM
Is there any statistic about how many Hero, Legendary are in total, or sorting them by every rank so we can see how many Mythical could there be at activity 1920+.

You can search for members (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search), enable Search by position and enter "Legendary". At the moment there are 490 Legendary members and about 2300 Heros.

I don't think there's a way to sort or filter by activity. 


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: n691309 on December 06, 2015, 10:55:59 PM
Is there any statistic about how many Hero, Legendary are in total, or sorting them by every rank so we can see how many Mythical could there be at activity 1920+.

You can search for members (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search), enable Search by position and enter "Legendary". At the moment there are 490 Legendary members and about 2300 Heros.

I was thinking that are less but the number is pretty good, how many of these have 1920+ activity as i cant sort or count there as they would be "Mythical" or "Ancient"


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on December 06, 2015, 11:16:07 PM
I'm about a month away from becoming a Hero Member. I don't want to see another rank that's literally years away. Good call by theymos to keep Legendary as the highest rank for now ;)


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: shorena on December 06, 2015, 11:20:43 PM
Is there any statistic about how many Hero, Legendary are in total, or sorting them by every rank so we can see how many Mythical could there be at activity 1920+.

You can search for members (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search), enable Search by position and enter "Legendary". At the moment there are 490 Legendary members and about 2300 Heros.

I was thinking that are less but the number is pretty good, how many of these have 1920+ activity as i cant sort or count there as they would be "Mythical" or "Ancient"

There is no easy way to figure that out, unless someone writes a bot for it. The only account I know that has >2000 activity is theymos, but there might be more.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: Cablez on December 06, 2015, 11:23:03 PM
Should only be available to users who were active on this forum for at least two reward halvings.
Not for the 2013 bunch ;)

That would define ancient in BTC terms. :)


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: botany on December 07, 2015, 11:36:08 AM
Apart from deciding the name of the new rank, we also need to figure out tags / badges for the new rank.
Also signature restrictions have to be updated once a new rank is created.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: goose20 on December 07, 2015, 02:27:24 PM
What no one here sports fans?

What about a Hall of Fame ( or as we have in rugby league, the Immortals).

A rank not based on activity but rather a vote. Each year a handful of members are nominated and then heros and legendary's get a vote on who (1 or 2) join the Bitcointalk Immortals.



Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: dogie on December 07, 2015, 06:34:26 PM
A rank not based on activity but rather a vote

Votes on bitcointalk do not end well.


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: RodeoX on December 07, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
If 2000 is the threshold then maybe it should go like this:

Hero > Legendary > Pathetic

 :D
 


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: zazarb on December 07, 2015, 10:10:44 PM
Is there any statistic about how many Hero, Legendary are in total, or sorting them by every rank so we can see how many Mythical could there be at activity 1920+.

You can search for members (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search), enable Search by position and enter "Legendary". At the moment there are 490 Legendary members and about 2300 Heros.

I was thinking that are less but the number is pretty good, how many of these have 1920+ activity as i cant sort or count there as they would be "Mythical" or "Ancient"

There is no easy way to figure that out, unless someone writes a bot for it. The only account I know that has >2000 activity is theymos, but there might be more.
Without going very deep, just few member have bit above or close 1800 activity,I not found any one over 1920(without theymos of course)
edit:
 It seems to have missed staff position. :)


Title: Re: [Proposal] New "Ancient" ranking / higher than Legendary
Post by: EcuaMobi on December 07, 2015, 10:16:38 PM
Without going very deep, just few member have bit above or close 1800 activity,I not found any one over 1920(without theymos of course)

It seems HostFat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=203) will be the first one to exceed that number (tomorrow) besides theymos.