Bitcoin Forum

Bitcoin => Bitcoin Discussion => Topic started by: bitcon on November 26, 2012, 10:19:13 AM



Title: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: bitcon on November 26, 2012, 10:19:13 AM
and if you don't know why, i recommend that you watch both of these videos:


http://youtu.be/iYZM58dulPE

http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: AlexanderSpamilton on November 26, 2012, 12:00:56 PM
wouldn't bitcoins success over value the USD? when it already is over valued?


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Fiyasko on November 26, 2012, 12:26:46 PM
AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!, STUBBORN TO CHANGE!
"i want to buy your gulf oil with USD"
"No, I will sell my gulf oil for precious metals"
*gunshot, casualty*
"You will sell me your gulf oil for USD"
"I'll sell you my gulf oil for your precious metals"
*gunshot, casualty*
"You will take our countrys paper money for your oil"
"I uhh, Will trade oil for metal?"
*gunshot, War*

Thats what the fucking gulf war is all about, America's Government getting angry that other countries wouldnt take USD.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: BkkCoins on November 26, 2012, 01:16:01 PM
wouldn't bitcoins success over value the USD? when it already is over valued?
Not sure what you mean here. If people started buying Bitcoins more then they'd be selling USD (or other currencies) for them. The less people wanted USD the more you'd have to give to get Bitcoin. Getting rid of your USD is something that makes USD less valuable. The same principle holds for other national currencies. But Bitcoin has a long way to go before it would make an impact - heck, they're already devaluing the USD at a far more alarming rate than any Bitcoin effect.

The important thing is that people have an alternative so that as USD become more worthless, and more irrelevant, all of the smart folk are already happily using their Bitcoins instead. And the same goes for any other national, centrally planned currency.

Imagine a future where the greedy rich banksters are left holding bags of currency that most people no longer want to bother with because most regular folk are already fully functional (and internationally) with each other using Bitcoin. Seems far fetched but stranger things have happened.

(crank up film reel of pre-war Germans pushing wheelbarrows of cash to the grocer)


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Liquid on November 26, 2012, 03:03:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=lsmbWBpnCNk


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: franky1 on November 26, 2012, 06:12:56 PM
i only watched half of the first video and started to think.

hmm if we were heading towards another 1920's event then could we soon see this in shop windows
http://i45.tinypic.com/34rxedd.jpg

featured at 27:56 in the first video.

where people would also trade bitcoins, vodka, guitars, and favours to each other instead of paper money.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: bitlizard on November 26, 2012, 09:05:45 PM
wouldn't bitcoins success over value the USD? when it already is over valued?

A USD to bitcoin trade requires both USD and bitcoin. While an exchange that requires USD is good for USD, if subsequent transactions are conducted in bitcoin to the exclusion of USD, then USD will be less in demand relative to bitcoin. Keep in mind one bitcoin is now worth more than $12 USD.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Frequency on November 26, 2012, 09:20:45 PM
wouldn't bitcoins success over value the USD? when it already is over valued?

A USD to bitcoin trade requires both USD and bitcoin. While an exchange that requires USD is good for USD, if subsequent transactions are conducted in bitcoin to the exclusion of USD, then USD will be less in demand relative to bitcoin. Keep in mind one bitcoin is now worth more than $12 USD.

we could go to BTC 0.00000001 = $ 1,00 who knows...

in trade yes we need other fiat currency, but some day all you need is BTC  ;)

sooner or later..


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: videos4btc on November 26, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
This still holds true today:

http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Rudd-O on November 26, 2012, 09:38:48 PM
AMERICA!, STUBBORN TO CHANGE!
"i want to buy your gulf oil with USD"
"No, I will sell my gulf oil for precious metals"
*gunshot, casualty*
"You will sell me your gulf oil for USD"
"I'll sell you my gulf oil for your precious metals"
*gunshot, casualty*
"You will take our USD for your oil"
"I uhh, Will trade oil for metal?"
*gunshot, War*

Thats what the fucking gulf war is all about, Americans getting angry that other countries wouldnt take USD.

Exactly.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on November 26, 2012, 09:50:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on November 26, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
and if you don't know why, i recommend that you watch both of these videos:


http://youtu.be/iYZM58dulPE

http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A
Wow...looks to me you don't realize there's also Europe and Asia. How about you come back to Earth and open a book on geography. You seem to have skipped first grade.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: imanikin on November 26, 2012, 10:05:54 PM
and if you don't know why, i recommend ...
+1 Maybe, widespread adoption of B or a successor crypto-currency would accomplish what Ron Paul and such have been trying to do by returning to the Au standard, and the government would be hard-pressed to stop it, the way they can now and did in the 1930's with Au.

However, some here disagree, as we know from that Bitcoin as a Keynesian tool thread, for example.

It will be interesting what Time will tell... 


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Rudd-O on November 26, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
and if you don't know why, i recommend that you watch both of these videos:


http://youtu.be/iYZM58dulPE

http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A
Wow...looks to me you don't realize there's also Europe and Asia. How about you come back to Earth and open a book on geography. You seem to have skipped first grade.

How about you contribute something constructive to the conversation instead of dumping condescension and snark?

Thanks.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: giszmo on November 26, 2012, 10:40:06 PM
My response:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127895.0


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Rudd-O on November 27, 2012, 12:46:35 AM
AMERICA!, STUBBORN TO CHANGE!
"i want to buy your gulf oil with USD"
"No, I will sell my gulf oil for precious metals"
*gunshot, casualty*
"You will sell me your gulf oil for USD"
"I'll sell you my gulf oil for your precious metals"
*gunshot, casualty*
"You will take our USD for your oil"
"I uhh, Will trade oil for metal?"
*gunshot, War*

Thats what the fucking gulf war is all about, Americans getting angry that other countries wouldnt take USD.

Yes, exactly. As an "American", I am sitting here rubbing my hands together contemplating how much oil Canadians actually have. I think you Canadians are holding back. I'm pretty sure the next war will be closer to home than you Canadians want! I won't rest until I bathe in your oil! My toaster runs on oil!

OK. I'll admit, your post offended me a bit. I am an "American", not by choice, but because I happened to be born where I was born. Let's put down the beer and knock off the stereotypes, eh? For starters, I oppose every and all war. I think oil is a fantastic fuel, but hope technology can provide better. I treat FRNs like toxic waste and trade them away whenever I find any in my possession, and suggest everyone else does the same.

Next time you want to lump a bunch of people together under one description, remember your peace loving, fiat hating friend to the south, OK?

I don't think he's referring to decent people like you. I think your interlocutor is talking about the sociopaths who rule you.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Fiyasko on November 27, 2012, 12:47:54 AM
Yes, exactly. As an "American", I am sitting here rubbing my hands together contemplating how much oil Canadians actually have. I think you Canadians are holding back. I'm pretty sure the next war will be closer to home than you Canadians want! I won't rest until I bathe in your oil! My toaster runs on oil!

OK. I'll admit, your post offended me a bit. I am an "American", not by choice, but because I happened to be born where I was born. Let's put down the beer and knock off the stereotypes, eh? For starters, I oppose every and all war. I think oil is a fantastic fuel, but hope technology can provide better. I treat FRNs like toxic waste and trade them away whenever I find any in my possession, and suggest everyone else does the same.

Next time you want to lump a bunch of people together under one description, remember your peace loving, fiat hating friend to the south, OK?
OK, I shall edit my post~, I loved your attitude towards my post, thankyou for you kind and thoughtful comment.

*eats a snowcone* I like stereotypes, they exsist to a point, just like racsism IE something like Asians are average better at math, And that the average black male shlong is bigger than the white mans, Those are good stereotypes and racist things.

"asains are bad drivers, redheads have no souls" Those are horrible


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: Gabi on November 27, 2012, 05:23:13 PM
Protip: "america" is not the world.


Title: Re: People Don't Realize How Crucial Bitcoin is to saving America.
Post by: remotemass on November 30, 2012, 06:08:53 AM
I like this one: http://mises.org/Books/mysteryofbanking.pdf