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Bitcoin => Press => Topic started by: julz on November 28, 2012, 01:55:24 AM



Title: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: julz on November 28, 2012, 01:55:24 AM
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Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
People trying to profit via the bitcoin electronic currency will soon have to work harder to mint the digital coins.

2012-11-28

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20510447


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Safeguards built into the bitcoin software are about to be triggered as the number of bitcoins in circulation hits a key milestone.

This means bitcoin "miners" will have to work twice as hard to be rewarded with the same number of coins.
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"The main reason to do this is to control inflation," said Vitalik Buterin, a journalist at Bitcoin Magazine.
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Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: kiba on November 28, 2012, 02:21:34 AM
I got a 404, sir!


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: julz on November 28, 2012, 03:06:41 AM
I got a 404, sir!

Link still works fine for me.. and getting a lot of twitter action. *shrug*


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: grue on November 28, 2012, 03:18:48 AM
404 over here too


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: BladeMcCool on November 28, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
I'm also getting a 404 (EDIT: I'm on Telus in BC/Canada). why dont you go ahead and post the full article copy here for us. (pretty please).


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: grondilu on November 28, 2012, 03:22:36 AM
Works for me:

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Safeguards built into the bitcoin software are about to be triggered as the number of bitcoins in circulation hits a key milestone.

This means bitcoin "miners" will have to work twice as hard to be rewarded with the same number of coins.

The change comes as competition to create the coins gets more intense with the release of custom mining chips.

Since the creation of the bitcoin network in early 2009, bitcoins have grown to become a very widely used digital currency. An increasing number of online shops and businesses accept bitcoins as payments and currently each bitcoin is worth about £8.

As a digital currency, bitcoins are not issued by a central bank or national mint. Instead they are created by the system's network when a specific amount of computer work, known as a "block" has been completed. Fifty bitcoins are released when that block is done and the work, which involves solving a hard mathematical problem, is completed.

The protocol that defines this block-to-coin ratio reduces the reward given for finding each block every time 210,000 blocks have been found. According to statistics gathered about the bitcoin network, the 210,000 figure looks set to be passed on 28 November. Then, instead of getting 50 bitcoins per block, miners will get only 25.

"The main reason to do this is to control inflation," said Vitalik Buterin, a journalist at Bitcoin Magazine. Controlling the rate at which coins were created, he said, meant there would never be a surge or shortfall in the number of bitcoins in circulation, either one of which could rapidly change the value of each coin.

It addition, he said, it was a hedge against technological innovation. In the early days of bitcoins, many people used desktop computers to do the hard sums. Then they started to use banks of graphics cards that could do the maths very quickly to speed up the rate at which blocks of work were completed.

Mr Buterin said some miners were now using even more specialised hardware to do the mathematical work and firms were starting to produce custom-made chips that stepped up the pace of work even more.

However, he said, the creators of bitcoins had foreseen these changes and built in controls to keep the numbers of blocks completed relatively constant.

"The protocol always calibrates difficulty to make up for increased mining power," he told the BBC, "so the speed at which people are finding blocks isn't going to go up by much no matter what."


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: julz on November 28, 2012, 03:22:46 AM
Well it's the same link that comes up if you search for bitcoin on the www.bbc.co.uk home page.

What part of the world are you folks in?  Working fine for me in Australia.



Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: alexanderanon on November 28, 2012, 03:30:53 AM
US, 404


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: jgarzik on November 28, 2012, 03:31:08 AM
404 here also.  US.

The bitcoin story is mentioned on the main BBC news page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ and the link there is the same as the one posted here (404/broken).



Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: cunicula on November 28, 2012, 03:47:38 AM
404 here also.  US.

The bitcoin story is mentioned on the main BBC news page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ and the link there is the same as the one posted here (404/broken).


Strange. The page works for me. Singapore.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on November 28, 2012, 03:56:27 AM
Hmmm, there is an unexpected twist taking place with the block halving. The tenor of the articles (and quantity) has changed, become more curious, positive even maybe.

It is like there is an audience that has so far only taken a superficial interest in bitcoin is now saying, "wait there is something else going on here ...." and then the bitcoin protocol with its regulation of inflation and "working harder for coins" meme takes hold and the nagging doubts about bitcoin=ponzi FUD starts to get blown away completely.

Encapsulated well with these two quotes, first the "bitcoins are hard to get" ... and then the "very widely used digital currency".

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People trying to profit via the bitcoin electronic currency will soon have to work harder to mint the digital coins.

Quote
Since the creation of the bitcoin network in early 2009, bitcoins have grown to become a very widely used digital currency.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: Lethn on November 28, 2012, 03:58:41 AM
The 404 error will probably be for users outside the UK with the BBC being the state television that it is >_< lol

I for instance can't view daily show episodes well without going through piratebay because of licensing issues, it will be the same thing here.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: grondilu on November 28, 2012, 04:02:50 AM
France here  (and the link works)


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: Elxiliath on November 28, 2012, 04:30:02 AM
Hmmm, this makes my graphics cards not worth running anymore.  Here's hoping ASICs come soon.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: Seal on November 28, 2012, 04:57:31 AM
Hmmm, there is an unexpected twist taking place with the block halving. The tenor of the articles (and quantity) has changed, become more curious, positive even maybe.

It is like there is an audience that has so far only taken a superficial interest in bitcoin is now saying, "wait there is something else going on here ...." and then the bitcoin protocol with its regulation of inflation and "working harder for coins" meme takes hold and the nagging doubts about bitcoin=ponzi FUD starts to get blown away completely.

Encapsulated well with these two quotes, first the "bitcoins are hard to get" ... and then the "very widely used digital currency".

Quote
People trying to profit via the bitcoin electronic currency will soon have to work harder to mint the digital coins.

Quote
Since the creation of the bitcoin network in early 2009, bitcoins have grown to become a very widely used digital currency.

Agree with you. This article is a great promotional piece to spread awareness of bitcoin. Regardless of whether it is painted in a neutral or positive light, the benefits will come from the bbc's wider reach (in audience).


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: molecular on November 28, 2012, 06:12:24 AM
France here  (and the link works)

germany works. Maybe US is filtering positive bitcoin news at it's border patrol proxies.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: molecular on November 28, 2012, 06:14:38 AM
Hmmm, there is an unexpected twist taking place with the block halving. The tenor of the articles (and quantity) has changed, become more curious, positive even maybe.

It is like there is an audience that has so far only taken a superficial interest in bitcoin is now saying, "wait there is something else going on here ...." and then the bitcoin protocol with its regulation of inflation and "working harder for coins" meme takes hold and the nagging doubts about bitcoin=ponzi FUD starts to get blown away completely.

Encapsulated well with these two quotes, first the "bitcoins are hard to get" ... and then the "very widely used digital currency".

Quote
People trying to profit via the bitcoin electronic currency will soon have to work harder to mint the digital coins.

Quote
Since the creation of the bitcoin network in early 2009, bitcoins have grown to become a very widely used digital currency.

Agree with you. This article is a great promotional piece to spread awareness of bitcoin. Regardless of whether it is painted in a neutral or positive light, the benefits will come from the bbc's wider reach (in audience).

I agree. Some month ago we'd have been posting threads like: "was this spike due to the bbc article?" ;)

Nowadays positive or at least neutral news about bitcoin is the norm. Negative events don't seem to capture journalists (if you can call these dudes that) attention that easily any more. I guess "bitcoins worth x Dollars stolen from site y" doesn't cut it any more.



Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: BkkCoins on November 28, 2012, 10:25:49 AM
Working fine here in Thailand.
I'm surprised as hell it made the BBC.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: Akka on November 28, 2012, 10:35:36 AM
Seems that it is working for everyone but the US, strange.

Just noticed that this article is even on the BBC News frontpage (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/) that's really nice.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: phelix on November 28, 2012, 01:23:15 PM
France here  (and the link works)

germany works. Maybe US is filtering positive bitcoin news at it's border patrol proxies.


 :o   :D


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: ben-abuya on November 28, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
I was getting a 404 in the US, but it's working for me now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20510447


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: 420 on November 28, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
I was getting a 404 in the US, but it's working for me now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20510447

Same here, I even made a video to document it:

http://youtu.be/E-3RBC-CeV8


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: elux on November 28, 2012, 08:07:00 PM
Looks fine here.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: kiba on November 28, 2012, 11:04:01 PM
Working now!


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: Endgame on November 29, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
Works fine here. I could get used to seeing bitcoin on the BBC homepage.


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: 420 on November 29, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
Works fine here. I could get used to seeing bitcoin on the BBC homepage.

you saw it on the homepage?


Title: Re: 2012-11-28 bbc.co.uk - Rewards set to halve for digital money miners
Post by: BkkCoins on November 29, 2012, 07:35:51 PM
Works fine here. I could get used to seeing bitcoin on the BBC homepage.

you saw it on the homepage?
Ya, I saw it there too. I'm not sure how long it was there. About half way down the page where the Technology section is it had a double Bitcoin icon image and the title under it. I clicked it even though I had read it before just in case they count hits for popularity.