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Title: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: crazyearner on December 10, 2015, 12:05:52 AM
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By Byron Kaye and Colin Packham
SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australian police raided the Sydney home and office on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of bitcoin and holder of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency, Reuters witnesses said.
More than a dozen federal police officers entered a house registered on the electoral roll to Craig Steven Wright, whom Wired outed as the likely real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous figure that first released bitcoin's code in 2009.
Locksmiths broke open the door of the property, in a suburb on Sydney's north shore. When asked what they were doing, one officer told a Reuters reporter they were "clearing the house".
A reporter who approached an office listed as the location of two of Wright's registered businesses, DeMorgan Ltd and Panopticrypt Pty Ltd, in another Sydney suburb, was turned away by police with one officer saying: "There's an operation going on at the moment, I can't answer any questions." Several police officers could be seen speaking with workers inside.
The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto has long been a mystery that journalists and bitcoin enthusiasts have tried to unravel.
The police raids in Australia came hours after Wired magazine and technology website Gizmodo published articles saying that their investigations showed Wright, an entrepreneur and academic, was most probably the secretive bitcoin creator.
Wright is the chief executive of Australian-registered DeMorgan Ltd, which he describes on his Linkedin page as "a pre-IPO Australian listed company focused on alternative currency".
The Australian Federal Police (AFP) said in a statement that the officers' "presence at Mr. Wright's property is not associated with the media reporting overnight about bitcoins".
The AFP referred all inquiries about the raids to the Australian Tax Office, which said it could not comment on "any individual's or entity's tax affairs" due to legal confidentiality.
Emails to various addresses listed for Wright did not receive a reply.
The Wired and Gizmodo investigations were based on leaked emails, documents and web archives, including what was said to be a transcript of a meeting between Wright and Australian tax officials.
"Either Wright invented bitcoin, or he's a brilliant hoaxer who very badly wants us to believe he did," Wired said.
Reuters could not independently verify the authenticity of the documents and transcripts quoted in the reports.

Full story here.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-australian-police-raid-sydney-035420970.html


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: TERA on December 10, 2015, 12:09:58 AM
No


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: crazyearner on December 10, 2015, 12:14:59 AM
Still it will be intresting to see if hoax or real if in court and makes the announcement and singes in on here and makes a post from old account and announces to the world but who knows time will tell on yet another report of satoshi


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: tokeweed on December 10, 2015, 12:17:48 AM
I hope the fed go after him.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Slark on December 10, 2015, 12:23:44 AM
If that man is really a Satoshi then he should accept fact that he is no longer anonymous and he failed at protect his private life. If he was honest he should once and for all clear all misunderstandings.
Show us that proof -  Original PGP Key associated with Satoshi.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Velkro on December 10, 2015, 12:25:01 AM
No
Exactly this, he is fake, his email address resembles satoshi email address but in reality its totally diffirent address.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: johnyj on December 10, 2015, 12:36:27 AM
That's one million bitcoins  ;D


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Straux on December 10, 2015, 12:48:19 AM
Satoshi isn't that stuck-up, nor vain. That's what this guy is. What motive does Satoshi have to reveal himself at this moment? Satoshi has kept himself secret, and he really doesn't need to be noticed right now.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: oblivi on December 10, 2015, 12:51:37 AM
You could have posted this in the other million threads about the subject but anyway, theres no conclusive proof this guy is satoshi and if he is and they find the coins they are not going to be able to do anything with them since they are encrypted anyway which is hilarious.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: USB-S on December 10, 2015, 12:52:41 AM
This is a huge hoax. Until we get mathematical proof of satoshi, we ain't going to budge. However when the news came and the price spiked, I had to fasten my seat belt. Stuff was getting pretty tense.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: tspacepilot on December 10, 2015, 12:55:14 AM
So, it's very unfortunate for this guy that he's getting his ass busted by police because a magazine identified him as a guy he's probably not.  Sheesh.  I wonder what he's being accused of by the police?  Surely being satoshi nakamoto isn't a crime in australia.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Backside walkaround on December 10, 2015, 05:40:42 AM
Absolutely not, but I have been wrong before. 

What's going to happen to the bitcoin world if Satoshi's identity does become known? 


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: HabBear on December 10, 2015, 05:49:58 AM
Still it will be intresting to see if hoax or real if in court and makes the announcement and singes in on here and makes a post from old account and announces to the world but who knows time will tell on yet another report of satoshi

Do you have an opinion on this? Do you think it's him?

Rumor has it that Steven has had trouble with taxes prior to this news. It stands to reason that if this article comes out claiming that Steven has millions in Bitcoin (just speculation of course) that the Aussie Feds would stop by to "search for this bitcoin"...not realizing entirely what they're looking for.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: hunnaryb on December 10, 2015, 05:52:25 AM
Its only slightly plausible because of the Tulip Fund. Still, I think that everybody just wants to find Satoshi so badly they're clouding their judgement.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Rubberduckie on December 10, 2015, 10:22:37 AM
If this guy is satoshi and has 1 million btc and is avoiding
paying his taxes on other business then I would be shocked.
Would take a real moron to try and save a few bucks avoiding
tax and risk a mountain of cash.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Amph on December 10, 2015, 11:28:03 AM
Absolutely not, but I have been wrong before. 

What's going to happen to the bitcoin world if Satoshi's identity does become known? 

i'm more worried about the fate of his one million coins if those coins get seized and put on an auction as usual, and then maybe dumped

they are more secure if they are preserved by satoshi himself


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: fastdice_alchemist on December 10, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
Way too many spammy threads like this. And you can't even spell raided... sigh.. he is not satoshi.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: diodio1 on December 10, 2015, 11:40:20 AM
Its too hard to say that he is satoshi , satoshi is a pseudo-name and no people really exit with that name.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: hilariousandco on December 10, 2015, 11:44:24 AM
Still it will be intresting to see if hoax or real if in court and makes the announcement and singes in on here and makes a post from old account and announces to the world but who knows time will tell on yet another report of satoshi

Almost certainly a hoax. I haven't seen anything presented so far that would be believable and everything leaked so far seems like a set-up and hasn't been verified. Seems like whoever leaked this stuff fabricated it for whatever reasons. Not sure why he would want to do it personally as all it is going to do is draw unwanted attention and suspicion on him (which isn't going to do him any good after his arrest and especially if he owes his gov money).


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: bitraine on December 10, 2015, 11:53:21 AM
no that wont happen, as bitcoin goes mainstream satoshi will double his security


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: megatron1337 on December 10, 2015, 12:00:04 PM
Satoshi is on an island somewhere in a super High tech home with a female robot as his sex slave. 


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: tokeweed on December 10, 2015, 12:28:48 PM
Satoshi is on an island somewhere in a super High tech home with a female robot as his sex slave. 

Does that make him technically a virgin?


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Mickeyb on December 10, 2015, 01:32:49 PM
Until he doesn't get in front of the computer and opens up wallets containing his 1M bitcoins, I don't believe it's him! Simple as that!


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: bitlancr on December 10, 2015, 02:17:17 PM
My answer is simply no. No way satoshi would ever come out in public. Why would he come out now anyway.
For all we know satoshi is a group of people who invented bitcoin and not just one person.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: Blawpaw on December 10, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
This story is already making me sick. It is more than obvious that this Craig guy isn't the real Satoshi. Now the community members should be all claiming they all are Satoshi Nakamoto


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: LuckyYOU on December 10, 2015, 02:41:14 PM
Heck no, this is not satoshi. I doubt he would come out like the way this Craig did.
I don't think he/she/they will ever come out saying that they are satoshi.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and radid
Post by: amacar2 on December 10, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
No i don't think he is the real one like most of the people around this forum think. Although if this is true it wouldn't effect the bitcoin market anymore as now we more care about bitcoin and its adaptability rather than the inventor.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: crazyearner on December 10, 2015, 07:43:32 PM
Would be interesting to to see how ti progresses but still if not satoshi then just another wanna be and trying to take the claim of him. Still why the feds want him just because is creator should not be arrested but then again that's the FBI we dealing with.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: hilariousandco on December 10, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
Would be interesting to to see how ti progresses but still if not satoshi then just another wanna be and trying to take the claim of him. Still why the feds want him just because is creator should not be arrested but then again that's the FBI we dealing with.

The feds didn't arrest him and the AUS police already said the raid had nothing to do with Bitcoin or him alledgedly being satoshi.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: BigBoy89 on December 10, 2015, 08:05:00 PM
No i don't think he is the real one like most of the people around this forum think. Although if this is true it wouldn't effect the bitcoin market anymore as now we more care about bitcoin and its adaptability rather than the inventor.
No i don't think he is the real one like most of the people around this forum think. Although if this is true it wouldn't effect the bitcoin market anymore as now we more care about bitcoin and its adaptability rather than the inventor.

He is a mystery man and nobody knows his identity and even if he comes and stands in front of us we could not recognize him but every now and then media will try to create fake news like this, yes all we care is about Bitcoin not about its inventor


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: repentance on December 10, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
Would be interesting to to see how ti progresses but still if not satoshi then just another wanna be and trying to take the claim of him. Still why the feds want him just because is creator should not be arrested but then again that's the FBI we dealing with.


The raid was related to an ongoing tax matter.  I have no idea why you're characterising it as "the feds" wanting him because he's the Bitcoin creator.

The FBI has nothing to do with this.  This involved the ATO, the AFP, and will probably also entail an AUSTRAC investigation.



Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: bitcoinstarter on December 10, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
Would be interesting to to see how ti progresses but still if not satoshi then just another wanna be and trying to take the claim of him. Still why the feds want him just because is creator should not be arrested but then again that's the FBI we dealing with.


The raid was related to an ongoing tax matter.  I have no idea why you're characterising it as "the feds" wanting him because he's the Bitcoin creator.

The FBI has nothing to do with this.  This involved the ATO, the AFP, and will probably also entail an AUSTRAC investigation.




All this has to do is tax related fraud. Good points.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: NorrisK on December 10, 2015, 09:43:20 PM
Would be interesting to to see how ti progresses but still if not satoshi then just another wanna be and trying to take the claim of him. Still why the feds want him just because is creator should not be arrested but then again that's the FBI we dealing with.


The raid was related to an ongoing tax matter.  I have no idea why you're characterising it as "the feds" wanting him because he's the Bitcoin creator.

The FBI has nothing to do with this.  This involved the ATO, the AFP, and will probably also entail an AUSTRAC investigation.




All this has to do is tax related fraud. Good points.

Still pretty convenient that the raid has come at the same time of him being outed as allegedly being satoshi...
May be coincidence, but I suspect they may have moved the timeline of the raid a bit forward when this came out.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: KaChingCoinDev on December 10, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Did anyone notice that he said, "I've been running bitcoin?" If he truly built bitcoin, he would know that nobody "runs" bitcoin. That looks suspicious.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: Mr. Forum on December 10, 2015, 10:47:15 PM
It will not be that easy as people think when it comes to finding the brains behind the bitcoin thing. I am so sure that the people who came up with the algorithm took int consideration that they will be people that the authority will have problems with. I am however delighted by the fact that irrespective of all this, bitcoin is heading a direction which will make putting a reverse gear on it next to impossible move.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: repentance on December 11, 2015, 01:25:37 AM

Still pretty convenient that the raid has come at the same time of him being outed as allegedly being satoshi...
May be coincidence, but I suspect they may have moved the timeline of the raid a bit forward when this came out.

I suspect it was the investigation into him which led to the media's interest, either directly or indirectly.

It's obviously possible that the raid was brought forward if the authorities believe that the media attention gave Wright a bigger motive to have someone destroy evidence at his home than the tax investigation alone warranted.  Tax evasion/tax fraud and money laundering often go hand in hand, after all.   

The images of the raid don't suggest a whole lot of urgency, though, and neither the ATO nor the administrator stopped Wright from leaving Australia so I guess we'll just have to wait to learn exactly what the authorities knew about Wright and when, whether or not he turns out to have been associated with Bitcoin's early development.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: justspare on December 11, 2015, 02:05:03 AM
How can you tell that this is Satoshi? This is just another one of those theories that people make. Why are the police raiding and attacking people that they just think are doing something bad? Hopefully they stop this nonsense.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: Bitcoinpro on December 11, 2015, 02:41:07 AM
Would be interesting to to see how ti progresses but still if not satoshi then just another wanna be and trying to take the claim of him. Still why the feds want him just because is creator should not be arrested but then again that's the FBI we dealing with.


The raid was related to an ongoing tax matter.  I have no idea why you're characterising it as "the feds" wanting him because he's the Bitcoin creator.

The FBI has nothing to do with this.  This involved the ATO, the AFP, and will probably also entail an AUSTRAC investigation.




a tax matter lol pull the other one ya goon


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: chennan on December 11, 2015, 03:10:12 AM
My answer is simply no. No way satoshi would ever come out in public. Why would he come out now anyway.
For all we know satoshi is a group of people who invented bitcoin and not just one person.

I think this guy is a hoax, let me be clear on that... But the reason why I think that this guy all the sudden had the gall to try and present him self as Satoshi is because of the fact that there was a statement saying that the pseudononymous alias of "Satoshi" had won the Nobel peace prize. Doesn't anyone realize how much every scientist/academic strives for this title? If he conjured up a way to make himself look like Satoshi, then he could try to take the title for himself (even though the people who would award him the prize would've likely asked proof of PGP signature).

It just seems to me it's a guy who desperately wants to be known for something that he didn't do. He just wants the title and the fame, which to me screams out this isn't Satoshi. I think the real Satoshi will only make himself known on a deathbed type of confession, or if Satoshi is a family man/woman he would geniously find a way to leave his wealth in bitcoins to his child/ren.


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: chek2fire on December 12, 2015, 12:22:26 AM
no


Title: Re: Has satoshi just been found and raided
Post by: knightkon on December 12, 2015, 12:26:36 AM
Again, this is just another false lead.  I am sorry but if you look into the search warrant for this raid, they are searching for money that is owed to the IRS in Australia.  Some people need to do there homework prior to posting information that is incorrect.